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DraftKings & FanDuel must cease operating?

sphinx : 11/10/2015 6:08 pm
Adam Rubin Retweeted
Darren Rovell ;@darrenrovell
BREAKING: NY Attorney General says daily fantasy is gambling & illegal, says DraftKings & FanDuel must cease operating & taking action in NY

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'Not a gambling website'  
sphinx : 11/22/2015 7:56 pm : link
Andrew Brandt Retweeted
Rodney Buike ‏@rbuike 9m9 minutes ago
Interesting that Fan Duel now has a disclaimer on their TV ads stating "Not a gambling website"
court today  
sphinx : 11/25/2015 11:20 am : link
Andrew Brandt
Courtroom Sports today in NY: Judge hears arguments of FanDuel/DraftKings fighting Attorney General on cease/desist orders

RE: So, only certain gambling is legal in NY?  
mrvax : 11/25/2015 11:36 am : link
In comment 12613963 Eli Wilson said:
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Betting on horses
Lottery
Scratch off lottery
Gaming machines at certain places(typically horse racing tracks)
Casinos on Indian reservations

oh, and they are building a Casino in Schenectady

...but Daily Fantasy is illegal


Seems logical


I remember that some bars in NY have some sort of gambling game that is played by the addicts. I don't know what it is though...In fact, I've seen it here in Florida too.
RE: RE: So, only certain gambling is legal in NY?  
schabadoo : 11/25/2015 11:39 am : link
In comment 12643848 mrvax said:
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In comment 12613963 Eli Wilson said:


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Betting on horses
Lottery
Scratch off lottery
Gaming machines at certain places(typically horse racing tracks)
Casinos on Indian reservations

oh, and they are building a Casino in Schenectady

...but Daily Fantasy is illegal


Seems logical



I remember that some bars in NY have some sort of gambling game that is played by the addicts. I don't know what it is though...In fact, I've seen it here in Florida too.


The numbers game? I've played some gigs in NY where they have a screen of numbers up. Keno maybe?
RE: RE: So, only certain gambling is legal in NY?  
Deej : 11/25/2015 11:55 am : link
In comment 12643848 mrvax said:
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I remember that some bars in NY have some sort of gambling game that is played by the addicts. I don't know what it is though...In fact, I've seen it here in Florida too.


New York has Quick Draw (see link), played every 4 minutes. An absolute embarrassment for my state. It preys upon the weak and the addicted.

We can point out the ridiculousness of some forms of gambling being illegal versus others being legal. It's not the purview of the AG to iron out that silliness, since it comes from the State Constitution. In particular, the Freedom of Assembly / Divorce / Betting on Ponies clause (because that's a thing):

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9. 1. No law shall be passed abridging the rights of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government, or any department thereof; nor shall any divorce be granted otherwise than by due judicial proceedings; except as hereinafter provided, no lottery or the sale of lottery tickets, pool-selling, book-making, or any other kind of gambling, except lotteries operated by the state and the sale of lottery tickets in connection therewith as may be authorized and prescribed by the legislature, the net proceeds of which shall be applied exclusively to or in aid or support of education in this state as the legislature may prescribe, and except pari-mutual betting on horse races as may be prescribed by the legislature and from which the state shall derive a reasonable revenue for the support of government, shall hereafter be authorized or allowed within this state; and the legislature shall pass appropriate laws to prevent offenses against any of the provisions of this section.


State constitution says the government can run gambling, you know, for education. The other stuff is verbotten.
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exccept  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/25/2015 12:07 pm : link
as Jon Oliver pointd out, it's not so much going to education as it is going to whatever the government wants it to go to. Per Oliver's piece, a number of state governments were just taking the money already ear-marked for education, using it for other expenditures, and then taking the lottery revenues and putting that to fill the void from the money for education that they spent elsewhere.
I guess my tone wasnt evident  
Deej : 11/25/2015 12:08 pm : link
I was being facetious about "for education". It's long been known that the lottery dollar displaces the general budget dollar in education budgets.
RE: exccept  
sphinx : 11/25/2015 12:11 pm : link
In comment 12643932 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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as Jon Oliver pointd out, it's not so much going to education as it is going to whatever the government wants it to go to. Per Oliver's piece, a number of state governments were just taking the money already ear-marked for education, using it for other expenditures, and then taking the lottery revenues and putting that to fill the void from the money for education that they spent elsewhere.

/\ /\ /\ Florida

'gambling'  
sphinx : 11/25/2015 12:33 pm : link
Legal Sports Report
‏@LSPReport
NY AG: "DFS is about betting on what others do. That is 'gambling.'"

within the week  
sphinx : 11/25/2015 3:06 pm : link
Andrew Brandt
Judge Mendez wraps of hearing on FanDuel/DraftKings v. NY, no decision today. Would expect one within the week

My general belief  
Deej : 11/25/2015 3:27 pm : link
is that it is a lot easier to deny a motion like this from the bench than it is to grant it. So if the judge is taking the matter under advisement, it weighs towards him granting the motion. Not a scientific opinion. I believe it is the AG's motion.

Who got peppered with the most questions? I usually find that if a judge questions one side a lot and the other very little, the very little questions side is usually winning.
RE: How is your location determined?  
drkenneth : 11/25/2015 5:48 pm : link
In comment 12613744 UConn4523 said:
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Your physical IP/GPS or the address on the bank account used?


GPS. I was in NOLA last week, and tried to put in a DK lineup, and site rejected it...I live in NJ.
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