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Are there any BBI members still here from the 2000 season?

TDexperiment : 11/10/2015 6:13 pm
Just curious?
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And by the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2015 8:56 am : link
why would I vote like a mindless monkey because some twat tells me to?

Out of love of the team?

Fuck off.

Just because somebody is a fan of the team means they should vote for a stupid banner because a dude creates multiple threads a day asking to? Logic really isn't your strong suit which is bizarre for a supposed scientist.
@ FatMan in Charlotte  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 8:59 am : link
Let's just say you "know" what you think you are talking about when it comes to logic and science. Would you like to prove that the findings you actually participated in are invalid? Do you have such integrity, yes or no?
RE: RE: The anger was directed at you and your behavior.  
Peter in Atl : 11/11/2015 9:00 am : link
In comment 12614323 TDexperiment said:
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WOW, you have some serious jealousy issues to contend with sir. Was voting for the team you say you support too strenuous for your fat fingers?


Jealous of what? Your shitty behavior that was so bad the Giants organization told you to shut the fuck up?
Came for the nostalgia.  
Moondawg : 11/11/2015 9:12 am : link
Stayed for the insanity.
The two faces of the NY Giants  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 9:13 am : link
After the 3rd billboard I did in support of the NYG, I wanted to confirm with them that if their fans won another billboard for their team that they would accept this gift. I was assured this would be the case. So when Giants fans won another billboard for their team, the NYG organization quickly rejected their gift of support. When asked by a reporter why they did so, I suggested they ask the NY Giants themselves.

What began with the NY Giants has ended with the NY Giants. This is as it should be.
I've been around since 1997...  
TheEvilLurker : 11/11/2015 9:19 am : link
Been here ever since.
Been on BBI ...  
Mike in West Palm Beach : 11/11/2015 9:24 am : link
since 1995 when it was the Big Blue Home Page (BBHP) ... My handle up until recent times was ... Mike in Raleigh. :)
Not this sh-t again....  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2015 9:24 am : link
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RE: Not this sh-t again....  
Cam in MO : 11/11/2015 9:29 am : link
In comment 12614365 Britt in VA said:
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Hahaha.

I forgot about the stupid banner shit.


What..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2015 9:32 am : link
does integrity have to do with this debate?

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Would you like to prove that the findings you actually participated in are invalid? Do you have such integrity, yes or no?


The finding are invalid because of a myriad of errors. I won't even go into issues like sample sizes or verification of results (i.e - confirming independent "votes" instead of one person voting 2,000 times). I'll just address the hogwash posted below:


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This all began innocently enough when I created artwork to support the NY Giants Super Bowl quest for SB XXI and SB XXV. The paintings reproduce on these billboards were incomplete so that if the team went on to win the SB I would then complete the artwork by painting the football silver to reflect the trophy won. The completed artwork was then reproduced as the NFL licensed NY Giants Super Bowl Commemorative Series limited edition prints. As history shows, each time this cause and effect event took place the NY Giants went on to win the SB, a 2-for-2 track record. The stage was now set to see if this 2-for-2 track record was about luck or was it destiny, i.e., predetermined event or series of events or what physicists call superdeterminism.


That isn't cause and effect. It also isn't an exercise in destiny. Also, this is also bullshit from a scientific point of view:

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From 2000-2012 football fans voted 24/7 online each year to have their team on the next Tempt Destiny billboard in support of their team's SB bid. The team with the most votes would determine the team selected – ACT. However, the team selected also needed to compete in the SB in order for the selection to come into existence – POTENTIAL.

There is no correlation between the Act and the Potential. The vote didn't impact the result and your findings don't even prove anything. I think out of 15 years, only twice did the team with the most votes win the SB. That isn't disproving science, it is proving luck.

Look - I'd like to spend a lot of time discrediting even more of the shit spewed on that site, but frankly, I already did this years ago when trying to get your ass to stop posting spam all over BBI. I'd actually like for real BBI scientists to slam this because I hate the fact that some moron has a website with such a flawed scientific findings that an engineer can blow holes in it.
haha Fatman has not chaged much since then  
idiotsavant : 11/11/2015 9:37 am : link
hehehe
Why do I have absolutely no recollection of this?  
Deej : 11/11/2015 9:50 am : link
What year(s) was he posting?
I love how people are (rightfully) getting into it with this guy  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/11/2015 10:01 am : link
while others are chiming in like "been lurking since '97"

Haha
@ FatMan in Charlotte  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 10:01 am : link
You are so confused you even make up your own fantasies. Nonetheless, if your opinions of reality (logic and science) are true then conduct the Final Selection Thought Experiment in real life to show everyone that the findings are false.

It is one thing to express uneducated opinions, it is quite another to back them up. I designed the thought experiment for those who have the capacity to think it through to its logical conclusion and for those without such capacity, such as yourself, to put your money where your mouth is.

Do not fear FatMan, everyone knows you do not have the integrity to support your own opinions and so you do not need to make excuses in order to not conduct the thought experiment in real life. Your argument is with nature, not with me.
RE: Why do I have absolutely no recollection of this?  
Moondawg : 11/11/2015 10:03 am : link
In comment 12614402 Deej said:
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What year(s) was he posting?


You weren't involved in the Thought Experiment that is BBI at that special Juncture of Reality.
Did he just?  
Cam in MO : 11/11/2015 10:03 am : link



RE: RE: Why do I have absolutely no recollection of this?  
Cam in MO : 11/11/2015 10:04 am : link
In comment 12614436 Moondawg said:
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In comment 12614402 Deej said:


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What year(s) was he posting?



You weren't involved in the Thought Experiment that is BBI at that special Juncture of Reality.


I think it was 1999, but that was a rough time for me. I was caught in a landslide with no escape from reality.


RE: @ FatMan in Charlotte  
Big Al : 11/11/2015 10:06 am : link
In comment 12614429 TDexperiment said:
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You are so confused you even make up your own fantasies. Nonetheless, if your opinions of reality (logic and science) are true then conduct the Final Selection Thought Experiment in real life to show everyone that the findings are false.

It is one thing to express uneducated opinions, it is quite another to back them up. I designed the thought experiment for those who have the capacity to think it through to its logical conclusion and for those without such capacity, such as yourself, to put your money where your mouth is.

Do not fear FatMan, everyone knows you do not have the integrity to support your own opinions and so you do not need to make excuses in order to not conduct the thought experiment in real life. Your argument is with nature, not with me.
Thought experiment following the great tradition of Albert Einstein.
This is awesome  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/11/2015 10:06 am : link
he asked a question to get clicks on the thread so he can pitch his "program" and people keep responding. Say what you want but this guy is a genius. It's like the subliminal popcorn ads hidden in a frame of a movie.
I've been pretty steady since 1995 or 1996 when I joined  
Deej : 11/11/2015 10:08 am : link
I guess I just have a shitty memory. Or I just wasnt bothered by these posts. Were they on rando threads, or contained to TD-started threads.
I've picked up on a thing here and a thing there  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/11/2015 10:10 am : link
from the responses, but can someone please consolidate? What is this lunatic's deal.
Mike  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/11/2015 10:11 am : link
You have to read his website and sign up for the newsletter to find out.

hahaha
RE: Mike  
Peter in Atl : 11/11/2015 10:13 am : link
In comment 12614464 AP in Halfmoon said:
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You have to read his website and sign up for the newsletter to find out.

hahaha


Those of us who remember this nonsense don't need to go to the website.
This is what the FatMan cannot understand  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 10:14 am : link
How To Contest The Tempt Destiny Experiment Results

To test if the acts of selection are indeed fundamental laws of Nature and not merely cognitive acts, we can contest the findings in real life as follows:

Ho - If the two acts of selection are not necessary for your existence then you can safely conduct the Final Selection Thought Experiment in real life and continue your existence.

Ha - If the two acts of selection are necessary for your existence then you cannot conduct the Final Selection Thought Experiment in real life in order to continue your existence.

Final Selection Thought Experiment:

Let's say that one morning upon awakening you find yourself in a world that is absent of the ability to choose, e.g., completely paralyzed. This means you cannot choose to move your body whatsoever. You cannot choose to take in any fluids. You cannot choose to take in any nourishment. You cannot choose to relieve yourself, et cetera. Nor can you have others indirectly choose for you. The outcome is absolute. The effect of a physical system to no longer have the capacity to make direct selections is certain death.

The assumption that selection is some sort of option, a freedom of will, is unsubstantiated by the fact that this predetermined mechanism we call choice is how energy works which is a fundamental necessity, not a metaphysical or cognitive option, of our physical existence. In other words, when the origin variables of selection come to exist, energy exists, for they are one and the same. As the thought experiment illustrates, we have the ability to choose because we do not have the option to not choose in order to exist.

And to think this all came about by supporting the NY Giants!
HA!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2015 10:15 am : link
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Do not fear FatMan, everyone knows you do not have the integrity to support your own opinions and so you do not need to make excuses in order to not conduct the thought experiment in real life. Your argument is with nature, not with me


There's that word - integrity again. You keep using it, but seem to not know what it means. Similar to the idea of proper experimentation.

Experimentation aside, my argument isn't with Nature it is with some fuckstick spamming a message board to vote on a banner over and over again.

To me, it seems like TemptDestiny.com is less about science, and more about trying to sell shitty artwork from Manual Morales.
And that last post by TD...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2015 10:16 am : link
is Matt in Syracuse-like it the batshit crazy quotient.
Yikes.  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/11/2015 10:18 am : link
I got nothin'.

But this thread is incredible.
@ AP in Halfmoon  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 10:20 am : link
No there is no newsletter to sign up for. Only NY Giants prints to win by conducting a simple keyword word search that even grade school children can conduct.
Peter  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/11/2015 10:28 am : link
That was obviously before my time but I recall something about a billboard contest some years ago.
FatMan Excuses  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 10:30 am : link
The challenge is there for anyone with integrity to put his money where his mouth is. If you honestly think that the two laws that govern our existence are not so, then feel free to show everyone you know what you are talking about by conducting the thought experiment in real life. GO FOR IT!

It was nice knowing you...
It's the rule of three!  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2015 10:46 am : link
3 pigs, 3 blankets, 3 bananas, C3PO...

C?

SEE?

It makes perfect sense!
What a load  
Big Al : 11/11/2015 10:48 am : link
of crap.
This is as close...  
Chris in Philly : 11/11/2015 11:09 am : link
as some of you young uns will get to the majesty of Matt in Syracuse in his prime...
I have a theory.  
manh george : 11/11/2015 11:10 am : link


The theory is that when I have a theory and you can't disprove it, it's true.

You can't disprove it.

That makes it true.
I started lurking in 2004, registered in 2010  
JerryNYG : 11/11/2015 11:13 am : link
Only post a little, but read a lot.
I, too, used to post at the old Big Blue Wrecking Crew forum  
Bluenatic : 11/11/2015 11:17 am : link
Handle was BX2, or BlueTimesTwo.
On A Positive Note...  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 11:20 am : link
About a year ago, I became a member of ResearchGate.net where the world's scientists meet online to discuss their findings, ask questions, and share their knowledge in a respectful manner. If my findings are in error, it will be amongst my peers to be found out. Since the findings are unambiguous, they are incontestable and so they have stood the test.

Last week I created the basketball example for grade school children as a teaching aid of what the Tempt Destiny findings show and how it affects the current scientific methods of using effects as a substitute for ignorance of cause. If a researcher receives 20 or so views of his research in a week that is considered to be substantial activity. As you can see, the interest in my work has escalated exponentially.

And to think, this all started by supporting the NY Giants.
ResearchGate Stats - ( New Window )
Incredible..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2015 11:22 am : link
Quote:
FatMan Excuses
TDexperiment : 10:30 am : link : reply
The challenge is there for anyone with integrity to put his money where his mouth is. If you honestly think that the two laws that govern our existence are not so, then feel free to show everyone you know what you are talking about by conducting the thought experiment in real life. GO FOR IT!

It was nice knowing you...


Money where my mouth is? By how, buying a shitty Manuel Morales painting?

Integrity would be not creating a pseudo-science site that is a sham for the purpose of promoting a starving artist's works.

Let me boil it down for you - there is no value to doing thought experimentation the way you've described. It is not a valid experiment for many reasons.

So, your challenge was for me to waste time on a flawed project? Challenge not accepted!

Hopefully the "nice knowing you" line is a precursor for your ass to be off BBI for another several years.
ResearchGate:  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2015 11:23 am : link
RE: On A Positive Note...  
Big Al : 11/11/2015 11:26 am : link
In comment 12614601 TDexperiment said:
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About a year ago, I became a member of ResearchGate.net where the world's scientists meet online to discuss their findings, ask questions, and share their knowledge in a respectful manner. If my findings are in error, it will be amongst my peers to be found out. Since the findings are unambiguous, they are incontestable and so they have stood the test.

Last week I created the basketball example for grade school children as a teaching aid of what the Tempt Destiny findings show and how it affects the current scientific methods of using effects as a substitute for ignorance of cause. If a researcher receives 20 or so views of his research in a week that is considered to be substantial activity. As you can see, the interest in my work has escalated exponentially.

And to think, this all started by supporting the NY Giants. ResearchGate Stats - ( New Window )
Sort of like the many views a car wreck gets.
Holy crap  
AJ23 : 11/11/2015 11:28 am : link
I had totally forgot about BBWC. That's where I came from, too. Early 2000s
don't know the story of this td, nor care to  
micky : 11/11/2015 11:29 am : link
But his responses on this thread..seem yea, creepy.

Anyway, onto another thread
I'm so confused here  
GMenLTS : 11/11/2015 11:32 am : link
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FatMan is...  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 11:35 am : link
what the FatMan does. All talk, no integrity. You have the means to show everyone how valid your opinions are and yet you openly show that they are totally worthless. Be the FatMan you think you are and GO FOR IT!
AJ23...  
TDexperiment : 11/11/2015 11:37 am : link
Whatever happened to BBWC?
Just look..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2015 11:40 am : link
at my 9:32am post to scratch the surface on why you are full of shit.

True integrity would be proving your theory or at least making sense instead of creating a sham site trying to foist bullshit to the scientific community.

No doubt, you won't address what I said at 9:32am and will instead keep putting out a throwaway line like:
And just think, this all started by supporting the New York Giants

Ugh.
Oh and..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2015 11:41 am : link
GO FOR IT!!
I don't know if I should post on this thread or not  
MadPlaid : 11/11/2015 11:44 am : link
I've been posting and lurking on BBI for quite some time, and I have invited a few people to join. It has been a very fun ride.

As for this "experiment" thing, I have no recollection of it at all. I probably ignored it as a waste of time and totally erased it from my memory. My conclusion must have been I have better things to do with my time than voting on an irrelevant website.
RE: RE: RE: Why do I have absolutely no recollection of this?  
Moondawg : 11/11/2015 11:44 am : link
In comment 12614441 Cam in MO said:
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In comment 12614436 Moondawg said:


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In comment 12614402 Deej said:


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What year(s) was he posting?



You weren't involved in the Thought Experiment that is BBI at that special Juncture of Reality.



I think it was 1999, but that was a rough time for me. I was caught in a landslide with no escape from reality.



Lol. Just look up to the skies and see!
Research Gate  
kicker : 11/11/2015 11:46 am : link
0 citations.

Bravo; changing the world one...

Wait, nope, the real scientists think you're a quack too.
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