Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 1m1 minute ago
With Victor Cruz headed to IR, the Giants will be re-signing WR Hakeem Nicks, sources say. Here comes his best shot to recapture old form.
his first time around, but its pretty clear he is physically unable to regain his prior form, so I hope that isn't the expectation - let's hope he can use his size and hands to win a couple of one on ones now and again.
Conor Orr @ConorOrr 14s14 seconds ago
Source confirms: Hakeem Nicks back to the Giants, as @MikeGarafolo reported. Needed a body with Cruz down for the season.
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 1m1 minute ago
With Victor Cruz headed to IR, the Giants will be re-signing WR Hakeem Nicks, sources say. Here comes his best shot to recapture old form.
LOL. Completely accurate.
Wow. I never thought he'd ever come back, especially given the way he left. The Giants made no attempt to resign him.
I also wouldn't expect much because he's aging with an injury history, and doesn't know the offense as someone said. But he is a veteran presence, which I assume was enough to overcome these problems.
call for desperate measures. I dont know at this point if he is better than White.
I'd be really surprised if he's better than White, but then who has really been following him this season? He did come in for a tryout a few weeks ago, but that was with a lot of other veterans. Other than that, nothing.
however, he runs no better then Randle at this stage of his career and with the leg injuries he had he's more of a plodder now. I'm really hoping for the best and that he still has something to offer. He did have a decent game against us last pre-season with Indy.
Nicks is obviously not the player he once was, but in 2014 he had 38 receptions, almost half of which (18) resulted in first downs, with 4 TDs. He can be a possession receiver and red zone threat. And he's behind Beckham, Harris and Randle.
I was hoping Davis would have gotten a chance by now, but the coaches obviously haven't been impressed since he's behind white on the depth chart. I thought he looked promising in preseason as both a WR and special teamer.
Anyone you sign now has been overlooked by teams for months. There's always going to be something - slow, dropsies, injuries, concussions - to keep that person on the bench.
We needed a body, we got one with some history and familiarity with the organization. He's been a teammate of a lot of these guys. That has to count for something over the next warm body on the list.
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
No doubt he will take sometime to learn new system, but he does have the benefit of familiarity with the QB. Chemistry for how they read the defense, etc.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 49s50 seconds ago
Giants WR coach Sean Ryan said yesterday Hakeem Nicks looked fast when he worked out for team. Dropped a hint that reunion not farfected.
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 4m4 minutes ago
Giants WR coach Sean Ryan said yesterday Hakeem Nicks looked fast when he worked out for team. Dropped a hint that reunion not farfetched.
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Jon in NYC : 9:29 am : link : reply
keep in mind that he doesn't know the offense at all. Going to be an adjustment for him.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hakeem....take it to the second fireplug and and turn out
Nicks had a bad locker room rep. He was angry that the team parted ways with him, but that's been seen as the right decision and he's never recovered from the injuries.
He was regarded as a good teammate.
This is like the Herman Moore signing back in 2002
and he was also reportedly fined many times by the team in his last season.
Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 2m2 minutes ago
We all thought #Giants would be celebrating the return of a former star WR down the stretch in 2015.
Odds were against it being Hakeem Nicks
He's young so the time off could have rejuvenated him. I'm hoping being around a little and seeing what he lost here might be the motivation he needs to be productive again.
aaand, am I remembering that there was a period prior to the knees where Nicks was just being petulant due to UDFA Victor Cruz being the better player? Or did I make that sheite up?
AAAAnd, what does nicks bring that Randle does not have?
This benefits Harris. Coughlin said, and I'm paraphrasing, that his workload has been increased in the offense to go along with his stellar ST work. Maybe surrendering some snaps to Nicks (when he's ready) keeps him fresh, especially late in games when he'd, potentially, have to go cover a punt late in the 4th quarter after playing WR.
and he was also reportedly fined many times by the team in his last season.
Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.
Curtis - here's the quote - how does this translate into bad teammate?
Quote:
Rapoport was told by multiple sources that Nicks has been fined several times by the Giants for two infractions. The first, for repeatedly being late; the second, for missing treatments. The fines, in general, were "in the thousands for each transgression," according to a team source.
aaand, am I remembering that there was a period prior to the knees where Nicks was just being petulant due to UDFA Victor Cruz being the better player? Or did I make that sheite up?
AAAAnd, what does nicks bring that Randle does not have?
keep in mind that the Patriots were sniffing around Nicks a few weeks ago. I wonder if we signed him before they did.
Agreed, especially with Edelman's broken foot.
As far as Davis is concerned, he's basically the same type of WR as Randle. A big, possession receiver with limited downfield speed. As long as Randle can play, Davis won't get on the field, not as a rookie 6th round pick from Connecticut. Signing Nicks also isn't an indictment of Davis. The Giants just want a veteran presence, especially since their playoff hopes are still very much alive.
I'm not gonna lie. I know he's pretty well cooked but I'm still
and he was also reportedly fined many times by the team in his last season.
Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.
Curtis - here's the quote - how does this translate into bad teammate?
Quote:
Rapoport was told by multiple sources that Nicks has been fined several times by the Giants for two infractions. The first, for repeatedly being late; the second, for missing treatments. The fines, in general, were "in the thousands for each transgression," according to a team source.
He was also really inconsistent on the field that last season. I remember him running the wrong routes at times and dropping balls and it being discussed here. He just wasn't himself physically or mentally. But I wasn't insinuating he was a bad teammate or a bad person. My only point was that he ran into some immaturity issues back then.
keep in mind that the Patriots were sniffing around Nicks a few weeks ago. I wonder if we signed him before they did.
Agreed, especially with Edelman's broken foot.
As far as Davis is concerned, he's basically the same type of WR as Randle. A big, possession receiver with limited downfield speed. As long as Randle can play, Davis won't get on the field, not as a rookie 6th round pick from Connecticut. Signing Nicks also isn't an indictment of Davis. The Giants just want a veteran presence, especially since their playoff hopes are still very much alive.
There are some reports that the Patriots were considering Nicks, and now may sign Wayne.
I followed things somewhat closely with him at Indi last year. For starters, when he played us in that preseason game last year, he looked every bit the player of old physically. Based on this, I'm not sure it is all a question of physically, moreso mentally.
I kept expecting him to bust out in Indi. It never happened, for whatever reason. Indi had a ton of weapons and Luck had better chemistry with other guys -TY, Reggie Wayne, etc. Hakeem disappeared.
The way Eli is heaving them now
Nicks will have a field day
A lot more for opponents to worry about now and they will not be able to double OBJ anymore
The patriots got away with mauling OBJ. I hope the league speaks with its officials and order them to stop that nonsense
that he returned but I will not complain one bit. Hopefully he can at least provide a solid 3rd down option as I am sure his speed is all but gone as so many teams have passed on signing him despite being relatively young.
Big body for in the red zone - has a rapport with the QB - can use his body to make catches even without ideal separation.
Yeah, but McAdoo's scheme is much different than what he's used to, we will see! At least he has all of this week and next week to practice and get on the same page as Eli and the rest of the crew.
It's been something out of a nightmare. Hanging onto injured players too long, cutting the wrong guys, running razor thin at TE,WR, and S. Add to that signing scrubs and finished players. I get it's late in the season but there had to be something better out there than Nicks who couldn't stick with the Titans or Colts and has the knees and speed of a 70 year old at this point.
there had to be something better out there than Nicks who couldn't stick with the Titans or Colts and has the knees and speed of a 70 year old at this point.
We're halfway into the season. I'm not so sure that's true. We are certainly not the only team fighting injuries. Look at what the Packers are trying to run out there. Everyone's desperate.
Hakeem welcome back and I wish him only the very best.
If he wants to play and he can help us move those chains --so be it. As I remember he wasn't afraid of the middle of the field and seldom developed alligator arms on crossing patterns. And as most have stated he has history with Eli.
Good Luck and go G-Men
I think we all need to remember that this move, as a few have already pointed out, is geared to provide veteran leadership to the young guys (white, davis) while also creating competition for the 4th spot. White had a pretty good showing last game and Davis has shown potential; adding an experienced, sure/strong handed WR will help. You rarely get an impact FA pickup this late in the year, but I would be happy if Nicks can come in and be a steady 4th WR option, especially in goal line situation.
mark it down. 11/16/2015. Because if the Giants are going to resign Nicks in late 2015, you really cant criticize any hair-brained asshat idea anyone espouses here.
Idiot: Giants should trade for Peyton Manning
Reasonable poster: Giants arent fucking trading for Peyton Manning. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Idiot: Well the Giants resigned Hakeem Nicks in November 2015.
Reasonable poster: Fuck, you might be right. I wonder if I can but an "E." to put on my Eli jersey.
If he can run 5-8 yard slants and keep a drive going, that's good enough for me.
Although they have survived without Cruz to this point, I am wondering what the Giants are going to do about a slot receiver after the bye week. With Beckham getting double coverage on the outside, maybe they will try to get him easier matchups from the slot.
OR maybe Nicks has enough quick twitch left to play slot receiver since he no longer is a threat on mid-range or deep passes.
wonder if this signing says something about whether the Giants think Randle can make it through the whole season. In any event, I doubt Nicks gets on the field for a few games while he gains at least some familiarity with the offense. Until then, we just go with the other receivers.
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
I'm not expecting much, but it's worth a shot. Welcome back, Hakeem! (Absolutely nuts that he's only 27)
Yeah. I think White had a decent showing last game, but his style of play is more finesse. Nicks, though nowhere near his prime self, still has a power game approach that we don't really have. OBJ's freakish abilities sort of bring you that, but not in the mold of Nicks. If he can bring even a bit of that to the offense with those strong hands, I think it would help the team.
The Titans cut Nicks and opted to go with just 4 wideouts
Love Hakeem, 2 plays in Giant career that stick out, the TD catch against Atlanta in home playoff game then the dirty bird. And the hail Mary catch against the Packers at the end of the half. Welcome Home
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
Excellent point.
Obviously injuries have slowed Nicks but you hope the time off has let his body heal and also makes him release this could be his final opportunity.
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.
like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.
What did you expect.....Nicks was a big part of the conversation around this team for years. We have been ringing our hands about Nicks for a long time.
but they were discussing Fitzgerald and all the great WR postseason stretches that he and other great WRs had over the years. And of course no one brought up Nicks in 2011. You know, virtually the greatest postseason performance from a WR ever. No love for Nicks...
Maybe he can't go deep any longer. Maybe he can't get separation on mid range passes. But maybe he is the best slot receiver on the Giants except for the star receiver who may be too valuable to risk playing in the slot.
enough details of Nicks' injury to understand why it's become so debilitating to his career this many years later. Is his current level of recovery the most that can be hoped for?
like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.
What did you expect.....Nicks was a big part of the conversation around this team for years. We have been ringing our hands about Nicks for a long time.
As usual "I LOVE WHAT I AM SEEING OUT OF HARRIS" is taken as I dont respect what Harris is doing ? Lol. Only BBI. Look Harris, is not a real WR. He is working his tail off and trying to become one. But he was signed to play Special Teams and dominate. He pulled up on a ST Tackle that led to a touchdown last week. If he is spending LESS time focused on WR and more on ST, it is BETTER for our team. We have given up 2 massive game changing PR's this season. HE WAS SIGNED TO BE A DEMON ON SPECIAL TEAMS!
If Nicks can take a handful of less snaps from him at WR, this is a damn good move. Do you know how hard it is to play gunner, returner AND Run routes? I played HS football. I started at WR, and @ safety. And I gunned my freshman year on ST's. These guys of course its 1 trillion times harder than our HS Al Bundy days, but do you know what kind of running your putting on this guy right now? He needs relief, and he needs less snaps at WR. He is a ST beast and working on being a WR.
leg is permanently disrupted and he has to use compression hose daily. This has caused him to not have the speed he once had. He should still be able to run routes and catch using those mammoth hands, but to expect him to be anything but a 4th WR is probably hoping against hope.
enough details of Nicks' injury to understand why it's become so debilitating to his career this many years later. Is his current level of recovery the most that can be hoped for?
I don't think we ever fully got the details of what was wrong with Nicks.
Also, he used the plural "injuries" when referring to his last year with the Giants. Sounds like the foot injury led to subsequent problems with the knee.
total receptions = 28 (2nd)
total yards = 444 (2nd)
total TDs 4 (5th)
By the way the longest postseason reception of all time belongs to Shannon Sharpe--96 yarder during the 2000 postseason. Donald Driver is 4th with the 90 yarder against NYG in 2007 NFC Title game..
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Why isn't Harris a "real" wide receiver? He's played well -- 4 TDs, good hands, makes tough catches. What's not real?
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Why isn't Harris a "real" wide receiver? He's played well -- 4 TDs, good hands, makes tough catches. What's not real?
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.
He's proving he can play WR in the league.
Harris had a great Week 10. In the previous four games he had a total of 8 receptions for 99 yards. Total. While playing an average of 72% of offensive snaps in those four games.
He has a lot to prove in terms of his ability to be a consistent target when teams are giving him a reasonable amount of attention. He also has a lot on his plate in special teams.
There needs to be another useful option at WR. Nicks, White, Davis, whoever.
than he is a WR. Again, I love what he is doing, but our ST's lost the game Sunday. Yes, 5 other things would have one it, but that was one of them. Harris pulled up, was right there - more focus there, a handful of plays less at WR, maybe he gets better AT BOTH.
Cole Beasley is 4 feet and played more than him in Dallas. Eli is making him a WR, not the other way around. Let's be real here folks.
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.
He's proving he can play WR in the league.
Harris had a great Week 10. In the previous four games he had a total of 8 receptions for 99 yards. Total. While playing an average of 72% of offensive snaps in those four games.
He has a lot to prove in terms of his ability to be a consistent target when teams are giving him a reasonable amount of attention. He also has a lot on his plate in special teams.
There needs to be another useful option at WR. Nicks, White, Davis, whoever.
is it so bad that the Giants decided to employ a former great here? At the very least I like that Nicks has a job for a little longer. We could do worse than Nicks as the 4th 5th guy...and he's still earning some loot. Good for him...
The Giants take care of their own. I love that about them.
like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.
Agreed. He doesn't know the offense, and won't for at least a month. Unless somebody gets injured, he's just insurance, although he might be activated if we reach the playoffs.
This surprises me just because how obvious his issues with the
Desperation can override a lot though, I suppose. He's probably not going to do much here, but I'm glad for his sake at least someone signed him after how he many teams he'd worked out for this year to no avail.
If he can run 5-8 yard slants and keep a drive going, that's good enough for me.
Although they have survived without Cruz to this point, I am wondering what the Giants are going to do about a slot receiver after the bye week. With Beckham getting double coverage on the outside, maybe they will try to get him easier matchups from the slot.
OR maybe Nicks has enough quick twitch left to play slot receiver since he no longer is a threat on mid-range or deep passes.
Beckham already plays from the slot quite a bit.
He's a depth signing, and why not? WHo else would be available
he's still pretty strong, I assume, and so a jam will be harder for most CBs. He and Eli ran the back shoulder fade to perfection and so perhaps we'll see a few of those between those two, as well. I'm sure he won't see more then a few balls a game. If he's the #4 WR he'll probably only play, at least initially, in spread 4 WR sets anyway.
Ultimately, I think it's nice to add another reliable target for Eli, regardless of how it turns out.
If Nicks can somehow resurrect his career, perhaps he sticks around next year too, but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet.
the nostalgia of the signing makes me happy. I think Nicks' familiarity with Eli will help him along with learning the new offense and if he gets us a few first downs and, hopefully, some touchdowns, it will be worth it.
I like getting the band back together. There's something about it that feels good in what has otherwise been such a frustrating season.
...but if they missed out on adding Welker dragging their feet with Cruz it's yet another instance of negligent roster evaluation and mis-management.
I don't think Cruz played into the thought of adding Welker at all. If they thought he could help, they would have signed him when he was here for a tryout and they were actively looking for a WR after cutting Parker.
Everybody ran with Welker like it's a foregone conclusion they would sign him. It's not. There's a reason he's not been in the game for a while. No team wants to be the team that put him on the field when he takes the hit that's going to finally retire him, and there's plenty of conversation on whether he should even be allowed to play, or if the union should protect him from himself.
but for his sake, I hope that Nicks can resurrect his career and the Giants reap the rewards. Much like JPP, you hope that a talented young man gets another chance.
Very happy for Hakeem Nicks and I wish him all the best. I've never seen a WR go from dominant to mediocre so fast. I think he can play a role on this team. He is not going to be a #1 (not even a #2), not going draw a team's #1 CB, and he will not draw double coverage. However, he always used his body well, always had good hands, and seemed to make the catch even if did not have separation. I think Nicks will work the outside, benefit from the double coverage OBJ receives, and could very well be a good 3rd down, intermediate yardage, move the chains type.
The other thing you have to consider is that even though Harris has been playing very well the Giants don't want to over work him at WR. Harris needs to play all the special teams snaps and still serve as the third WR. A player like Nicks gives the coaching staff a chance to better manage Harris' workload.
That is a big part of who they would bring in at this point. Its always been a little bit of a mystery of how he declined so quickly. Perhaps the time off has done something good in terms of his legs.
Injuries have taken away his his quickness and speed
I think he may struggle to get open but this west coast offense might favor things for him. Eli would need to get the timing down with him but it could work. I think he's still good at getting contested balls and making the difficult catches. Those huge hands of his didn't shrink. He can probably continue his career as a possession receiver.
Still, he'd be 4th in the rotation at best right now.
Last I remember a large majority of posters, including some of the most respected, were sure he was doggin' in 2013 because the Giants had signed Cruz to a big extension instead of Nicks.
That was a plausible argument. The counter-argument, that a player would be a fool to play badly on purpose in a contract year, just seemed like a stronger argument.
The Colts brought back Bradshaw. Hasn't done much in four games, but he did catch a game-winning TD pass. Last year he had 90 carries for a very respectable 4.7 y/c and caught 38 passes, 6 for touchdowns.
And where's Manningham? He's better than Randle. And Jacobs.
he is a possession receiver only, but he's got great hands. But hey Hakeem go ahead and make my comment look stupid and start torching that 1 on 1 you'll be getting.
and wasn't signed....so there just isn't anyone out there?
What does that do for Geremy Davis' confidence?
Watching him play with Luck, there was no separation from defenders.....
Nicks had good hands.....
So the back shoulder throw might still be there.....
If Eli plays him like a slower possession receiver, and not the #1 he use to be, there are possibilities here...Teams will concentrate on OBj, Harris, and Randle....this creates Hakeem as the 4th option.....as long as his head does not get in the way......he is no longer the primary target...if he accepts his role, he could be useful....
I don't think James Jones is ANY better than Nicks at this point. They pretty much give you the same thing. So we finally got our Jones, too bad we didn't have him week 1.
as a physical slot WR who runs a lot of routes that TE's typically run. Unless the time off improved his legs and gave him back some of his explosiveness (doubtful) I find it hard to believe he'll be able to get much separation on the outside. That said if he can attack the football in the air, block, and regain some chemistry with Eli I could see him adding something to this offense.
For Eli. This will not interfer with Harris. Who I think we get more time on the outside, as well as the slot. Nicks is a possession type guy.. Honestly, with Nicks being done(supposedly), what can RR do, that he can't ?
I have his poster hanging in my Garage! Hated how it ended the 1st time. He was amazing in the regular season game vs Tampa . That was the beginning of the end! Thought the d-back stepped on his ankle/leg on purpose
like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.
Agreed. He doesn't know the offense, and won't for at least a month. Unless somebody gets injured, he's just insurance, although he might be activated if we reach the playoffs.
I dunno. I feel like if they thought he'd need a month, they'd just go with Davis and avoid this whole headline.
I'm a fan of Nicks, always have been. Hopefully with sitting out half the season he had time to heal up and get right. Hakeem Nicks as a #3 or 4 is just fine by me.
.... I dunno. I feel like if they thought he'd need a month, they'd just go with Davis and avoid this whole headline.
I've never been one of those who thinks TC won't play rookies if the rookie can play (unlike the draftees who could not). However, at this point in the season, six games to determine the Giants' playoff fate, with a bye to get a bead on what Nicks can/cannot do, Coughlin may be opting for the experienced hand.
if he's active against the Redskins. By signing him today the have almost two full weeks to coach him up, and get some reps with the team, and with Eli. He's probably a better blocker than any other WR on this team right now, which could help our stagnant running game, which always gets shut down on outside runs, partially because our WR's are not good blockers. I also have no doubt at all he could learn enough of the playbook to be useful in certain situations in just two weeks.
He's not a world beater any more, but he can possibly be a useful situational role player for us over these last 6 games.
it's November 17th, 2015 and we're talking about the likes of Hakeem Nicks. I haven't seen that guy on the field since 2012. I remember when Coughlin called his players performance embarrassing after the Seattle 23-0 loss and Nicks said nah it wasn't, yes it was. Own up to playing like garbage and beat yourself up mentally.
it's November 17th, 2015 and we're talking about the likes of Hakeem Nicks. I haven't seen that guy on the field since 2012. I remember when Coughlin called his players performance embarrassing after the Seattle 23-0 loss and Nicks said nah it wasn't, yes it was. Own up to playing like garbage and beat yourself up mentally.
I don't want this pest in my team's locker room.
You should probably save yourself from the rest of the season and go play in traffic.
I assume dorgan is having flashbacks to the Dallas game where Hakeem cost us the contest.
Yes, but overall it would seem like this is the type of offense he could still be productive in. He will not be needed to stretch the field or pick up a ton of YAC. He will be asked to move the chains most likely, with mostly short and intermediate routes. They will likely ask him to run a lot of the back shoulder fades and regular fades they've been running lately, as well as come back routes so he can use his body and hands.
he did the same against Philly once too...kind of gave up on the route, resulting in a pick.
Yes, that's it. He did it 3 times. I don't recall who we played in that third game. Two were interceptions, the third (the one I can't remember) should have been intercepted.
He gives up on them instead of flattening out the route when he's challenged from the inside.
are good concepts, but there's a lot that goes into it.
If you know a guy can't beat you deep and lacks explosion, you can sit on those comebacks. Nicks has to have some bounce in his step and be able to come out of breaks hard in order for those tactics to work. I don't think we've seen him doing that in quite some time.
are good concepts, but there's a lot that goes into it.
If you know a guy can't beat you deep and lacks explosion, you can sit on those comebacks. Nicks has to have some bounce in his step and be able to come out of breaks hard in order for those tactics to work. I don't think we've seen him doing that in quite some time.
Nicks getting deep in my opinion was never much to do with his speed, he was always good one on one with the ball in the air. I believe he can still do these type of things
but he has less of that now than he did, and there's also more than just straight line speed at play here.
Cruz wasn't great because of his straight line speed. It's what he could do when he planted his feet and cut at the top of his route, or how he could get off the line of scrimmage with his first step and his hip motion. I would like to see what Nicks is capable of these days. Should be interesting.
I saw a play in preseason for the Titans where Nicks caught a pass and ran down field for 40 plus yards. Granted it was only preseason, but that showed me that Nicks still has gas left in the tank. The Giants have nothing to lose so to me its a great signing.
will always have a special place in giants history for his performance in the 2011 super bowl run. the catch and run against Atlanta and the hail mary catch against green bay were both amazing.
I don't expect much more than herman moore gave us, but I'm happy to see him back home to probably finish his career.
Could be great move. Nicks is a sure handed possession receiver.
The kind ELI needs in this quick drop, quick pass offense. Too many passes that hit our receivers in the hands are bobbled or dropped. Thats not Nicks. Getting him open is another story with his bad wheels. We will see.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 2h2 hours ago New York, USA
Antrel on Giants bringing back Nicks: "I think that's the best move the Giants could have made.''
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 2h2 hours ago
Rolle on Hakeem Nicks: "He's definitely going to help the Giants there's no doubt about it."
I heard the interview with Rolle on WFAN. Rolle said best move the Giants could have made for themselves. He continued that Nicks as got to be humbled by wanting to play this game and he is sitting at home instead. He believes the Giants are going to get a very motivated player with a ton of talent who realizes this might be his last chance. Thinks he's definitely going to help the Giants there is no doubt about it. I agree with Rolle I like this signing.
I hope we all get the storybook ending and he produces. But I will not hold my breath. Even though he has done jack since he left the G-men I still think there was something fishy about his 2013 campaign.
He basically was benched for that Dallas game, the biggest of the year, and I still see him jogging through routes against the Seahawks and failing to give any effort on quick slants in what I think was one of the Eagle games that year. Obviously something happened physically, but I think there was a mental or attitude component to his decline as well. Never have I seen a player just evaporate like Nicks did. Unless he was juicing or something.
Hopefully Rolle is right and his time away has changed him.
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
If I recall, wasn't he a pretty good blocker, when called on?
Was just thinking that, imagine if we kept Jones and cut Parker at the start of the season....I still want to know whose decision that was?
Hudson ... I was just kidding around (being a bit of a prick) but, yeah ... you can always ask "what if?" - even if it is a futile question. No sense and worrying about it now - especially since many here have beaten the James Jones Horse to death. ; )
Nice first move after the catch and strong enough to shed the downfield tackle.
2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there. Link - ( New Window )
Thanks for posting.
The guy is 27 years old. He is injury prone and that's the risk if we were counting on him to be a top 2 receiver (we aren't), but I don't think there's sufficient proof to say his body is permanently slowed down and weaker from his previous injuries.
I like this move, and I don't think it's so far fetched to say he can be an effective playmaker for this team.
He'd be effective inside the 20, as a match up against smaller DB's, or running the pick play with another WR or Vereen.
Between the 20's, you'd want Randle (or IMO Harris, who is playing better than Randle at this point...more speed). I know that would hurt specials, but I think we have other people who could do returns.
resembled Anquan Bolden. Similar size and skill sets (Nicks a little lighter). Boldin is older and not as fast anymore either, but still is making plays with his toughness and hands. Maybe Nicks can do the same. If so we have done very well here.
Nice first move after the catch and strong enough to shed the downfield tackle.
2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there. Link - ( New Window )
Since this vid seems to be what we have on tape for the 2015 version of Nicks, looked a bit closer at the Rams defenders involved (for real NFL players or preseason fodder?)
26 is Mark Barron, starter and 4.54 guy coming out of college. He initially closes on Nicks and thinks he can go for the strip tackle but winds up tackling air.
38 (who angles Nicks out of bounds) is Cody Davis, who plays all the special teams for the Rams and is in the NFL because he is a freaky athlete: 4.41 on his pro day and 41 inch vertical.
Since Nicks was never a speed guy to begin with (only a 4.63 combine), I can't look at this and see that he has lost that much straight line speed.
47 (the CB who gets juked) is Marcus Roberson, also on the Rams roster as a reserve.
... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.
Lol. 2011 postseason? Hello? 09 and 10?
Let me guess, you also hate Tiki Barber, think Victor Cruz gave up on rehab to post things on Instagram, and that Kehl had no business posting on this board.
... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.
Lol. 2011 postseason? Hello? 09 and 10?
Let me guess, you also hate Tiki Barber, think Victor Cruz gave up on rehab to post things on Instagram, and that Kehl had no business posting on this board.
Don't put words in my mouth. The guy made no effort whatsoever his last season with the team. Now that he's back ON the team, that's more noteworthy than what he accomplished the few seasons he bothered to make the effort.
With Victor Cruz headed to IR, the Giants will be re-signing WR Hakeem Nicks, sources say. Here comes his best shot to recapture old form.
Source confirms: Hakeem Nicks back to the Giants, as @MikeGarafolo reported. Needed a body with Cruz down for the season.
I agree. Hard not to get excited because he is a name that brings up fond memories, but realistically - he's just not very good anymore.
Welcome back Hakeem!
True. But he and Eli know each other and putting in a few plays for him won't be a problem.
I love what Harris has brought to the team and White looked like a capable 4th option on Sunday, I think he showed us why he's stuck around.
With Victor Cruz headed to IR, the Giants will be re-signing WR Hakeem Nicks, sources say. Here comes his best shot to recapture old form.
LOL. Completely accurate.
Wow. I never thought he'd ever come back, especially given the way he left. The Giants made no attempt to resign him.
I also wouldn't expect much because he's aging with an injury history, and doesn't know the offense as someone said. But he is a veteran presence, which I assume was enough to overcome these problems.
I'd be really surprised if he's better than White, but then who has really been following him this season? He did come in for a tryout a few weeks ago, but that was with a lot of other veterans. Other than that, nothing.
IM KIDDING
I'm not expecting him to be open very often.
I was hoping Davis would have gotten a chance by now, but the coaches obviously haven't been impressed since he's behind white on the depth chart. I thought he looked promising in preseason as both a WR and special teamer.
We needed a body, we got one with some history and familiarity with the organization. He's been a teammate of a lot of these guys. That has to count for something over the next warm body on the list.
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
Giants WR coach Sean Ryan said yesterday Hakeem Nicks looked fast when he worked out for team. Dropped a hint that reunion not farfected.
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
He's 4 years younger than Jones.
He could possibly help in the red zone.
Reality is to expect nothing
Plax-lite.
Giants WR coach Sean Ryan said yesterday Hakeem Nicks looked fast when he worked out for team. Dropped a hint that reunion not farfetched.
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keep in mind that he doesn't know the offense at all. Going to be an adjustment for him.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hakeem....take it to the second fireplug and and turn out
Plax-lite.
Which reports were these?
He was regarded as a good teammate.
Cut by Colts. Cut by Titans. Worked out for 3 or 4 other teams without getting signed. The guy is cooked.
Plax-lite.
You're imagining things. If Coughlin was on board with your opinion, Nicks wouldn't be here.
Big body for in the red zone - has a rapport with the QB - can use his body to make catches even without ideal separation.
Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.
We all thought #Giants would be celebrating the return of a former star WR down the stretch in 2015.
Odds were against it being Hakeem Nicks
AAAAnd, what does nicks bring that Randle does not have?
I would also really like to see what Geremy Davis can do. Kid is big and strong and showed good hands in the pre-season.
I hate the Patriots
Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.
Curtis - here's the quote - how does this translate into bad teammate?
Rapoport was told by multiple sources that Nicks has been fined several times by the Giants for two infractions. The first, for repeatedly being late; the second, for missing treatments. The fines, in general, were "in the thousands for each transgression," according to a team source.
AAAAnd, what does nicks bring that Randle does not have?
actually a good Q. where's Davis?
Plax-lite.
You mean the reports of him mentoring a young Victor Cruz and a rookie Randle, right? Yeah, not a good clubhouse guy at all.
Same probably goes for Whitlock.
Agreed, especially with Edelman's broken foot.
As far as Davis is concerned, he's basically the same type of WR as Randle. A big, possession receiver with limited downfield speed. As long as Randle can play, Davis won't get on the field, not as a rookie 6th round pick from Connecticut. Signing Nicks also isn't an indictment of Davis. The Giants just want a veteran presence, especially since their playoff hopes are still very much alive.
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and he was also reportedly fined many times by the team in his last season.
Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.
Curtis - here's the quote - how does this translate into bad teammate?
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Rapoport was told by multiple sources that Nicks has been fined several times by the Giants for two infractions. The first, for repeatedly being late; the second, for missing treatments. The fines, in general, were "in the thousands for each transgression," according to a team source.
He was also really inconsistent on the field that last season. I remember him running the wrong routes at times and dropping balls and it being discussed here. He just wasn't himself physically or mentally. But I wasn't insinuating he was a bad teammate or a bad person. My only point was that he ran into some immaturity issues back then.
Agreed. Why not?
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keep in mind that the Patriots were sniffing around Nicks a few weeks ago. I wonder if we signed him before they did.
Agreed, especially with Edelman's broken foot.
As far as Davis is concerned, he's basically the same type of WR as Randle. A big, possession receiver with limited downfield speed. As long as Randle can play, Davis won't get on the field, not as a rookie 6th round pick from Connecticut. Signing Nicks also isn't an indictment of Davis. The Giants just want a veteran presence, especially since their playoff hopes are still very much alive.
There are some reports that the Patriots were considering Nicks, and now may sign Wayne.
I kept expecting him to bust out in Indi. It never happened, for whatever reason. Indi had a ton of weapons and Luck had better chemistry with other guys -TY, Reggie Wayne, etc. Hakeem disappeared.
LOL
Good question.
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Both are top of the line players
The way Eli is heaving them now
Nicks will have a field day
A lot more for opponents to worry about now and they will not be able to double OBJ anymore
The patriots got away with mauling OBJ. I hope the league speaks with its officials and order them to stop that nonsense
Also was interested in Jared Abbrederis, but the Packers activated him and he's no longer available.
How is there any risk or downside to this move? If he is washed up then he doesnt see the field but if he can contribute that will be a huge bonus
But hard to imagine he has much left
He could possibly help in the red zone.
Reality is to expect nothing
Have you had the stop watch on nicks lately
I'm going to go with the Giants judgement here
Yes, we could use a few of those patented back-shoulder sideline first downs.
Was just thinking the same thing. I also wonder who has the best chance to not only be productive but also stay healthy...
A lot of this is related to politics. Pecking order and contracts
I watched Nicks at Indy last year and he looked good
They look terrible without him
Big body for in the red zone - has a rapport with the QB - can use his body to make catches even without ideal separation.
Yeah, but McAdoo's scheme is much different than what he's used to, we will see! At least he has all of this week and next week to practice and get on the same page as Eli and the rest of the crew.
We're halfway into the season. I'm not so sure that's true. We are certainly not the only team fighting injuries. Look at what the Packers are trying to run out there. Everyone's desperate.
If he wants to play and he can help us move those chains --so be it. As I remember he wasn't afraid of the middle of the field and seldom developed alligator arms on crossing patterns. And as most have stated he has history with Eli.
Good Luck and go G-Men
Cut by Colts. Cut by Titans. Worked out for 3 or 4 other teams without getting signed. The guy is cooked.
I agree with the Moore analogy.
Hopefully Nicks can still perform in a limited number of scenarios.
Idiot: Giants should trade for Peyton Manning
Reasonable poster: Giants arent fucking trading for Peyton Manning. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Idiot: Well the Giants resigned Hakeem Nicks in November 2015.
Reasonable poster: Fuck, you might be right. I wonder if I can but an "E." to put on my Eli jersey.
Vereen & Harris have been excellent players for the team. Meriweather and Dahl as options 6 & 7 at S have been good.
Newhouse being thrust into a starting role has played better than anyone thought
I do not recall a long list of DE, TE, OT and S who were available.
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If he can run 5-8 yard slants and keep a drive going, that's good enough for me.
Although they have survived without Cruz to this point, I am wondering what the Giants are going to do about a slot receiver after the bye week. With Beckham getting double coverage on the outside, maybe they will try to get him easier matchups from the slot.
OR maybe Nicks has enough quick twitch left to play slot receiver since he no longer is a threat on mid-range or deep passes.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Yeah. I think White had a decent showing last game, but his style of play is more finesse. Nicks, though nowhere near his prime self, still has a power game approach that we don't really have. OBJ's freakish abilities sort of bring you that, but not in the mold of Nicks. If he can bring even a bit of that to the offense with those strong hands, I think it would help the team.
If Eli trusts him so that throws are basically short timing patterns, he should be open to move the chains with some consistency.
Wish him all the best here, however/whenever he is used.
And gets another RING this year, then retires a Giant.
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
Excellent point.
Obviously injuries have slowed Nicks but you hope the time off has let his body heal and also makes him release this could be his final opportunity.
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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.
He's proving he can play WR in the league.
What did you expect.....Nicks was a big part of the conversation around this team for years. We have been ringing our hands about Nicks for a long time.
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like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.
What did you expect.....Nicks was a big part of the conversation around this team for years. We have been ringing our hands about Nicks for a long time.
As usual "I LOVE WHAT I AM SEEING OUT OF HARRIS" is taken as I dont respect what Harris is doing ? Lol. Only BBI. Look Harris, is not a real WR. He is working his tail off and trying to become one. But he was signed to play Special Teams and dominate. He pulled up on a ST Tackle that led to a touchdown last week. If he is spending LESS time focused on WR and more on ST, it is BETTER for our team. We have given up 2 massive game changing PR's this season. HE WAS SIGNED TO BE A DEMON ON SPECIAL TEAMS!
If Nicks can take a handful of less snaps from him at WR, this is a damn good move. Do you know how hard it is to play gunner, returner AND Run routes? I played HS football. I started at WR, and @ safety. And I gunned my freshman year on ST's. These guys of course its 1 trillion times harder than our HS Al Bundy days, but do you know what kind of running your putting on this guy right now? He needs relief, and he needs less snaps at WR. He is a ST beast and working on being a WR.
Again, he is not a real NFL WR.. yet
I don't think we ever fully got the details of what was wrong with Nicks.
Also, he used the plural "injuries" when referring to his last year with the Giants. Sounds like the foot injury led to subsequent problems with the knee.
total yards = 444 (2nd)
total TDs 4 (5th)
By the way the longest postseason reception of all time belongs to Shannon Sharpe--96 yarder during the 2000 postseason. Donald Driver is 4th with the 90 yarder against NYG in 2007 NFC Title game..
NOT BAD
I'll take it, and he's likely even healthier now (as is Bradshaw)
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Why isn't Harris a "real" wide receiver? He's played well -- 4 TDs, good hands, makes tough catches. What's not real?
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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Why isn't Harris a "real" wide receiver? He's played well -- 4 TDs, good hands, makes tough catches. What's not real?
You just can't please some of these experts
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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.
He's proving he can play WR in the league.
Harris had a great Week 10. In the previous four games he had a total of 8 receptions for 99 yards. Total. While playing an average of 72% of offensive snaps in those four games.
He has a lot to prove in terms of his ability to be a consistent target when teams are giving him a reasonable amount of attention. He also has a lot on his plate in special teams.
There needs to be another useful option at WR. Nicks, White, Davis, whoever.
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Cole Beasley is 4 feet and played more than him in Dallas. Eli is making him a WR, not the other way around. Let's be real here folks.
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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.
We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.
I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.
If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.
He's proving he can play WR in the league.
Harris had a great Week 10. In the previous four games he had a total of 8 receptions for 99 yards. Total. While playing an average of 72% of offensive snaps in those four games.
He has a lot to prove in terms of his ability to be a consistent target when teams are giving him a reasonable amount of attention. He also has a lot on his plate in special teams.
There needs to be another useful option at WR. Nicks, White, Davis, whoever.
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Could not agree more, great post
The Giants take care of their own. I love that about them.
Agreed. He doesn't know the offense, and won't for at least a month. Unless somebody gets injured, he's just insurance, although he might be activated if we reach the playoffs.
Desperation can override a lot though, I suppose. He's probably not going to do much here, but I'm glad for his sake at least someone signed him after how he many teams he'd worked out for this year to no avail.
If he can run 5-8 yard slants and keep a drive going, that's good enough for me.
Although they have survived without Cruz to this point, I am wondering what the Giants are going to do about a slot receiver after the bye week. With Beckham getting double coverage on the outside, maybe they will try to get him easier matchups from the slot.
OR maybe Nicks has enough quick twitch left to play slot receiver since he no longer is a threat on mid-range or deep passes.
Beckham already plays from the slot quite a bit.
Ultimately, I think it's nice to add another reliable target for Eli, regardless of how it turns out.
If Nicks can somehow resurrect his career, perhaps he sticks around next year too, but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet.
I like getting the band back together. There's something about it that feels good in what has otherwise been such a frustrating season.
I remain hopeful yet realistic.
I don't think Cruz played into the thought of adding Welker at all. If they thought he could help, they would have signed him when he was here for a tryout and they were actively looking for a WR after cutting Parker.
Everybody ran with Welker like it's a foregone conclusion they would sign him. It's not. There's a reason he's not been in the game for a while. No team wants to be the team that put him on the field when he takes the hit that's going to finally retire him, and there's plenty of conversation on whether he should even be allowed to play, or if the union should protect him from himself.
"Its a Beckham and Randle game, make em go to Nicks....."
Very happy for Hakeem Nicks and I wish him all the best. I've never seen a WR go from dominant to mediocre so fast. I think he can play a role on this team. He is not going to be a #1 (not even a #2), not going draw a team's #1 CB, and he will not draw double coverage. However, he always used his body well, always had good hands, and seemed to make the catch even if did not have separation. I think Nicks will work the outside, benefit from the double coverage OBJ receives, and could very well be a good 3rd down, intermediate yardage, move the chains type.
The other thing you have to consider is that even though Harris has been playing very well the Giants don't want to over work him at WR. Harris needs to play all the special teams snaps and still serve as the third WR. A player like Nicks gives the coaching staff a chance to better manage Harris' workload.
Still, he'd be 4th in the rotation at best right now.
That was a plausible argument. The counter-argument, that a player would be a fool to play badly on purpose in a contract year, just seemed like a stronger argument.
The Colts brought back Bradshaw. Hasn't done much in four games, but he did catch a game-winning TD pass. Last year he had 90 carries for a very respectable 4.7 y/c and caught 38 passes, 6 for touchdowns.
And where's Manningham? He's better than Randle. And Jacobs.
Back to the future!
What does that do for Geremy Davis' confidence?
Watching him play with Luck, there was no separation from defenders.....
Nicks had good hands.....
So the back shoulder throw might still be there.....
If Eli plays him like a slower possession receiver, and not the #1 he use to be, there are possibilities here...Teams will concentrate on OBj, Harris, and Randle....this creates Hakeem as the 4th option.....as long as his head does not get in the way......he is no longer the primary target...if he accepts his role, he could be useful....
lmao.
Yeah, but he does have chemistry with Eli, So they should help.. I like the signing. I think he'll be used more as a possession receiver
I have his poster hanging in my Garage! Hated how it ended the 1st time. He was amazing in the regular season game vs Tampa . That was the beginning of the end! Thought the d-back stepped on his ankle/leg on purpose
Antrel on Giants bringing back Nicks: "I think that's the best move the Giants could have made.''
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 2h2 hours ago
Rolle on Hakeem Nicks: "He's definitely going to help the Giants there's no doubt about it."
I hope he's found religion after being out of the league. It's a great opportunity for him. Too many throws now going to Tye and Cunningham and White
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like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.
Agreed. He doesn't know the offense, and won't for at least a month. Unless somebody gets injured, he's just insurance, although he might be activated if we reach the playoffs.
I dunno. I feel like if they thought he'd need a month, they'd just go with Davis and avoid this whole headline.
My guess is this is strictly an insurance policy in case someone gets hurt.
I'm a fan of Nicks, always have been. Hopefully with sitting out half the season he had time to heal up and get right. Hakeem Nicks as a #3 or 4 is just fine by me.
this will (hopefully) push randle too
.... I dunno. I feel like if they thought he'd need a month, they'd just go with Davis and avoid this whole headline.
I've never been one of those who thinks TC won't play rookies if the rookie can play (unlike the draftees who could not). However, at this point in the season, six games to determine the Giants' playoff fate, with a bye to get a bead on what Nicks can/cannot do, Coughlin may be opting for the experienced hand.
for those knocking Harris, I have no problem with him. He has been our 2nd best WR.
He's not a world beater any more, but he can possibly be a useful situational role player for us over these last 6 games.
I don't want this pest in my team's locker room.
I don't want this pest in my team's locker room.
You should probably save yourself from the rest of the season and go play in traffic.
Homer Jones???
Yes, that's it. He did it 3 times. I don't recall who we played in that third game. Two were interceptions, the third (the one I can't remember) should have been intercepted.
He gives up on them instead of flattening out the route when he's challenged from the inside.
If you know a guy can't beat you deep and lacks explosion, you can sit on those comebacks. Nicks has to have some bounce in his step and be able to come out of breaks hard in order for those tactics to work. I don't think we've seen him doing that in quite some time.
If you know a guy can't beat you deep and lacks explosion, you can sit on those comebacks. Nicks has to have some bounce in his step and be able to come out of breaks hard in order for those tactics to work. I don't think we've seen him doing that in quite some time.
Nicks getting deep in my opinion was never much to do with his speed, he was always good one on one with the ball in the air. I believe he can still do these type of things
Cruz wasn't great because of his straight line speed. It's what he could do when he planted his feet and cut at the top of his route, or how he could get off the line of scrimmage with his first step and his hip motion. I would like to see what Nicks is capable of these days. Should be interesting.
I don't expect much more than herman moore gave us, but I'm happy to see him back home to probably finish his career.
I like how Nicks' 2011 postseason is lost on some ungrateful fans.
Antrel on Giants bringing back Nicks: "I think that's the best move the Giants could have made.''
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 2h2 hours ago
Rolle on Hakeem Nicks: "He's definitely going to help the Giants there's no doubt about it."
I heard the interview with Rolle on WFAN. Rolle said best move the Giants could have made for themselves. He continued that Nicks as got to be humbled by wanting to play this game and he is sitting at home instead. He believes the Giants are going to get a very motivated player with a ton of talent who realizes this might be his last chance. Thinks he's definitely going to help the Giants there is no doubt about it. I agree with Rolle I like this signing.
I hope we all get the storybook ending and he produces. But I will not hold my breath. Even though he has done jack since he left the G-men I still think there was something fishy about his 2013 campaign.
He basically was benched for that Dallas game, the biggest of the year, and I still see him jogging through routes against the Seahawks and failing to give any effort on quick slants in what I think was one of the Eagle games that year. Obviously something happened physically, but I think there was a mental or attitude component to his decline as well. Never have I seen a player just evaporate like Nicks did. Unless he was juicing or something.
Hopefully Rolle is right and his time away has changed him.
Frankly the team even exploring this should put those rumors to bed.
Frankly the team even exploring this should put those rumors to bed.
good point
still strange to me though
If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
If I recall, wasn't he a pretty good blocker, when called on?
Red zone, back shoulder, TD!
BTW, Homer Jones is 74 years old and still alive. Here is an old article on him for those interested.
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hopefully he's got some juice left and he can make some plays down the stretch.
Hard to believe he is only 27.
BTW, Homer Jones is 74 years old and still alive. Here is an old article on him for those interested. Homer Jones- NY Giants star - ( New Window )
So, wait. You're not really Homer Jones? You bastard!
Bryan Kehl is so much cooler than Homer Jones.
Was just thinking that, imagine if we kept Jones and cut Parker at the start of the season....I still want to know whose decision that was?
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He is no James Jones.
Was just thinking that, imagine if we kept Jones and cut Parker at the start of the season....I still want to know whose decision that was?
Hudson ... I was just kidding around (being a bit of a prick) but, yeah ... you can always ask "what if?" - even if it is a futile question. No sense and worrying about it now - especially since many here have beaten the James Jones Horse to death. ; )
Wow ... I can't believe he is only 27.
Maybe the reports of his demise is highly exaggerated? IDK.
Fingers crossed.
2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there.
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2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there. Link - ( New Window )
Thanks for posting.
The guy is 27 years old. He is injury prone and that's the risk if we were counting on him to be a top 2 receiver (we aren't), but I don't think there's sufficient proof to say his body is permanently slowed down and weaker from his previous injuries.
I like this move, and I don't think it's so far fetched to say he can be an effective playmaker for this team.
Between the 20's, you'd want Randle (or IMO Harris, who is playing better than Randle at this point...more speed). I know that would hurt specials, but I think we have other people who could do returns.
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... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.
I like how Nicks' 2011 postseason is lost on some ungrateful fans.
Sorry, you don't get to cash in a nice postseason for the right to throw away an entire season after that. Can we have a TEAM!
2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there. Link - ( New Window )
Since this vid seems to be what we have on tape for the 2015 version of Nicks, looked a bit closer at the Rams defenders involved (for real NFL players or preseason fodder?)
26 is Mark Barron, starter and 4.54 guy coming out of college. He initially closes on Nicks and thinks he can go for the strip tackle but winds up tackling air.
38 (who angles Nicks out of bounds) is Cody Davis, who plays all the special teams for the Rams and is in the NFL because he is a freaky athlete: 4.41 on his pro day and 41 inch vertical.
Since Nicks was never a speed guy to begin with (only a 4.63 combine), I can't look at this and see that he has lost that much straight line speed.
47 (the CB who gets juked) is Marcus Roberson, also on the Rams roster as a reserve.
Lol. 2011 postseason? Hello? 09 and 10?
Let me guess, you also hate Tiki Barber, think Victor Cruz gave up on rehab to post things on Instagram, and that Kehl had no business posting on this board.
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... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.
Lol. 2011 postseason? Hello? 09 and 10?
Let me guess, you also hate Tiki Barber, think Victor Cruz gave up on rehab to post things on Instagram, and that Kehl had no business posting on this board.
Don't put words in my mouth. The guy made no effort whatsoever his last season with the team. Now that he's back ON the team, that's more noteworthy than what he accomplished the few seasons he bothered to make the effort.