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Giants Re-Signing Hakeem Nicks

Jon in NYC : 11/17/2015 9:26 am
Per Garafolo
...  
Jon in NYC : 11/17/2015 9:27 am : link
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 1m1 minute ago
With Victor Cruz headed to IR, the Giants will be re-signing WR Hakeem Nicks, sources say. Here comes his best shot to recapture old form.

The prodigal son returns  
Ben in Tampa : 11/17/2015 9:27 am : link
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whoa....  
BillKo : 11/17/2015 9:27 am : link
how about that!?
I assume he will be #4 or 5?  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/17/2015 9:27 am : link
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didn't see that one coming  
UConn4523 : 11/17/2015 9:28 am : link
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Desperate times  
dep026 : 11/17/2015 9:28 am : link
call for desperate measures. I dont know at this point if he is better than White.
He's washed up  
armstead98 : 11/17/2015 9:29 am : link
But I'll take it. Could be a good physical presence in the red zone.
Hopefully  
Jon in NYC : 11/17/2015 9:29 am : link
he comes back with a chip on his shoulder.
Also  
Jon in NYC : 11/17/2015 9:29 am : link
keep in mind that he doesn't know the offense at all. Going to be an adjustment for him.
Thats crazy.  
Curtis in VA : 11/17/2015 9:30 am : link
Never would that thought that would happen.
I loved Nicks  
Rob in CT/NYC : 11/17/2015 9:30 am : link
his first time around, but its pretty clear he is physically unable to regain his prior form, so I hope that isn't the expectation - let's hope he can use his size and hands to win a couple of one on ones now and again.
confirmed  
sphinx : 11/17/2015 9:31 am : link
Conor Orr ‏@ConorOrr 14s14 seconds ago
Source confirms: Hakeem Nicks back to the Giants, as @MikeGarafolo reported. Needed a body with Cruz down for the season.


RE: Desperate times  
Curtis in VA : 11/17/2015 9:31 am : link
In comment 12628976 dep026 said:
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call for desperate measures. I dont know at this point if he is better than White.


I agree. Hard not to get excited because he is a name that brings up fond memories, but realistically - he's just not very good anymore.
I can wear my Jersey again!!  
superspynyg : 11/17/2015 9:31 am : link
Yeaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!
Look, anyone we get now is going to be some stiff  
jcn56 : 11/17/2015 9:31 am : link
At least it'll be our stiff.

Welcome back Hakeem!
I am happy to hear about this  
Dennis From Madison : 11/17/2015 9:31 am : link
I have no hard feelings against him. At worst, he'll be a great red zone target.
What dep said about White v. Nicks  
Rob in CT/NYC : 11/17/2015 9:32 am : link
may be correct.
RE: Also  
sphinx : 11/17/2015 9:32 am : link
In comment 12628979 Jon in NYC said:
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keep in mind that he doesn't know the offense at all. Going to be an adjustment for him.

True. But he and Eli know each other and putting in a few plays for him won't be a problem.

talk about desperate...  
GMAN4LIFE : 11/17/2015 9:32 am : link
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Over/Under on how long until he gets injured  
giantsfan227B : 11/17/2015 9:33 am : link
I say he doesn't make it through the first game he gets on field.
It would be cool  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/17/2015 9:33 am : link
if by a miracle he regained enough of his pre-injury form to make some plays.
I'm not that concerned about WR honestly..  
Chris684 : 11/17/2015 9:33 am : link
Of course you are always 1 injury away from disaster at any position, but that is life in the salary cap era.

I love what Harris has brought to the team and White looked like a capable 4th option on Sunday, I think he showed us why he's stuck around.
I could see him playing a role  
Randy in CT : 11/17/2015 9:34 am : link
pretty well.
I agree. White has started to look better.  
Curtis in VA : 11/17/2015 9:34 am : link
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I was hoping  
JesseS : 11/17/2015 9:34 am : link
we'd sign Herman Moore instead.
Wow, didn't see that coming  
Rjanyg : 11/17/2015 9:34 am : link
Kinda cool and the number 88 is available I believe.
Welcome Back Hakeem!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/17/2015 9:34 am : link
#88 in the program, #1 in our hearts.
What in the actual fuck?  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/17/2015 9:36 am : link
Beyond shocked.
Keep  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 9:37 am : link
in mind it will take him some time. Not the same system as when he left.
Great.  
feelflows : 11/17/2015 9:37 am : link
More "Hicks" threads.
He may have bad knees  
Fish : 11/17/2015 9:38 am : link
but obviously well enough to get signed by us.
RE: ...  
AcidTest : 11/17/2015 9:38 am : link
In comment 12628969 Jon in NYC said:
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Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 1m1 minute ago
With Victor Cruz headed to IR, the Giants will be re-signing WR Hakeem Nicks, sources say. Here comes his best shot to recapture old form.



LOL. Completely accurate.

Wow. I never thought he'd ever come back, especially given the way he left. The Giants made no attempt to resign him.

I also wouldn't expect much because he's aging with an injury history, and doesn't know the offense as someone said. But he is a veteran presence, which I assume was enough to overcome these problems.
Wow.  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/17/2015 9:38 am : link
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White blows  
Gman11 : 11/17/2015 9:39 am : link
Has bad hands. Can't anticipate a back shoulder throw. Doesn't get open. Other than that, yeah, he's good.
Living in the past lol  
micky : 11/17/2015 9:39 am : link
can't expect anyone at this point in time to come in..unless JJ is avail..oh wait. Jk Jk

why do the Giants keep bringing these guys back  
AnyoneButPhilly : 11/17/2015 9:40 am : link
Nicks has been worthless since 2011
RE: Desperate times  
AcidTest : 11/17/2015 9:40 am : link
In comment 12628976 dep026 said:
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call for desperate measures. I dont know at this point if he is better than White.


I'd be really surprised if he's better than White, but then who has really been following him this season? He did come in for a tryout a few weeks ago, but that was with a lot of other veterans. Other than that, nothing.
Is  
Doomster : 11/17/2015 9:41 am : link
Homer Jones still alive?
Well he does still have good hands.......  
Simms11 : 11/17/2015 9:41 am : link
however, he runs no better then Randle at this stage of his career and with the leg injuries he had he's more of a plodder now. I'm really hoping for the best and that he still has something to offer. He did have a decent game against us last pre-season with Indy.
I  
AcidTest : 11/17/2015 9:41 am : link
doubt he'll even be active most games.
I don't think he's competition or a replacement for White  
jcn56 : 11/17/2015 9:43 am : link
He's here in case someone gets hurt.
awesome hands maybe he catchs that ball in the endzone  
Joey from GlenCove : 11/17/2015 9:43 am : link
LOLOLOL

IM KIDDING
It will be interesting.  
Curtis in VA : 11/17/2015 9:44 am : link
He said that Indianapolis didn't fit his "style" of play, and yet in Tennessee there was a report that he was a big WR who didn't play big.

I'm not expecting him to be open very often.
Am I the only one who finds it amusing  
dep026 : 11/17/2015 9:46 am : link
that to replace an oft-injured player, we signed a more injured player?
I like it  
halfback20 : 11/17/2015 9:48 am : link
Worth a shot.
It's crazy to me that he's only  
Jon in NYC : 11/17/2015 9:48 am : link
27.
2014  
FJ : 11/17/2015 9:49 am : link
Nicks is obviously not the player he once was, but in 2014 he had 38 receptions, almost half of which (18) resulted in first downs, with 4 TDs. He can be a possession receiver and red zone threat. And he's behind Beckham, Harris and Randle.

I was hoping Davis would have gotten a chance by now, but the coaches obviously haven't been impressed since he's behind white on the depth chart. I thought he looked promising in preseason as both a WR and special teamer.
Desperation is a stinky cologne, John  
Greg from LI : 11/17/2015 9:50 am : link
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It's the middle of November  
jcn56 : 11/17/2015 9:50 am : link
Anyone you sign now has been overlooked by teams for months. There's always going to be something - slow, dropsies, injuries, concussions - to keep that person on the bench.

We needed a body, we got one with some history and familiarity with the organization. He's been a teammate of a lot of these guys. That has to count for something over the next warm body on the list.
Hopefully..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/17/2015 9:51 am : link
he can be a red zone presence.

If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.
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nygiants16 : 11/17/2015 9:51 am : link
Wow  
UberAlias : 11/17/2015 9:51 am : link
No doubt he will take sometime to learn new system, but he does have the benefit of familiarity with the QB. Chemistry for how they read the defense, etc.
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nygiants16 : 11/17/2015 9:52 am : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 49s50 seconds ago
Giants WR coach Sean Ryan said yesterday Hakeem Nicks looked fast when he worked out for team. Dropped a hint that reunion not farfected.
I wonder if Welker would have been the guy  
Jon : 11/17/2015 9:52 am : link
if he was still available.
talk about the huge hands  
Giantsfan79 : 11/17/2015 9:52 am : link
between him and OBJ
RE: Hopefully..  
FJ : 11/17/2015 9:53 am : link
In comment 12629074 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he can be a red zone presence.

If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.

He's 4 years younger than Jones.
Where's Mario?  
penkap75 : 11/17/2015 9:53 am : link
Lets get the old band back together.
redzone target...  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/17/2015 9:53 am : link
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Nicks  
stretch234 : 11/17/2015 9:55 am : link
He cant run anything like Randle right now. If he could he would be playing somewhere.

He could possibly help in the red zone.

Reality is to expect nothing
one NAY vote.  
sober297 : 11/17/2015 9:55 am : link
wasn't a good clubhouse guy, as per reports.
Plax-lite.
.  
kelsto811 : 11/17/2015 9:55 am : link
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Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 4m4 minutes ago
Giants WR coach Sean Ryan said yesterday Hakeem Nicks looked fast when he worked out for team. Dropped a hint that reunion not farfetched.
..  
NewBlue : 11/17/2015 9:56 am : link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Also
Jon in NYC : 9:29 am : link : reply
keep in mind that he doesn't know the offense at all. Going to be an adjustment for him.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Hakeem....take it to the second fireplug and and turn out
RE: one NAY vote.  
jcn56 : 11/17/2015 9:56 am : link
In comment 12629097 sober297 said:
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wasn't a good clubhouse guy, as per reports.
Plax-lite.


Which reports were these?
I don't think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/17/2015 9:59 am : link
Nicks had a bad locker room rep. He was angry that the team parted ways with him, but that's been seen as the right decision and he's never recovered from the injuries.

He was regarded as a good teammate.
This is like the Herman Moore signing back in 2002  
Bluenatic : 11/17/2015 9:59 am : link
Very, very curious move.

Cut by Colts. Cut by Titans. Worked out for 3 or 4 other teams without getting signed. The guy is cooked.
RE: one NAY vote.  
aquidneck : 11/17/2015 9:59 am : link
In comment 12629097 sober297 said:
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wasn't a good clubhouse guy, as per reports.
Plax-lite.


You're imagining things. If Coughlin was on board with your opinion, Nicks wouldn't be here.
I say this without anything sarcasm  
jlukes : 11/17/2015 9:59 am : link
he can be what James Jones is for Aaron Rodgers.

Big body for in the red zone - has a rapport with the QB - can use his body to make catches even without ideal separation.
There were plenty of reports about him pouting over his contract  
Curtis in VA : 11/17/2015 10:00 am : link
and he was also reportedly fined many times by the team in his last season.

Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.
return of a former star WR  
sphinx : 11/17/2015 10:00 am : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 2m2 minutes ago
We all thought #Giants would be celebrating the return of a former star WR down the stretch in 2015.
Odds were against it being Hakeem Nicks

I'm excited about this.  
BLUATHRT : 11/17/2015 10:00 am : link
He's young so the time off could have rejuvenated him. I'm hoping being around a little and seeing what he lost here might be the motivation he needs to be productive again.
wtf happened to Geremy Davis?  
idiotsavant : 11/17/2015 10:01 am : link
aaand, am I remembering that there was a period prior to the knees where Nicks was just being petulant due to UDFA Victor Cruz being the better player? Or did I make that sheite up?

AAAAnd, what does nicks bring that Randle does not have?
Obviously His Past Rapport With Eli  
Trainmaster : 11/17/2015 10:01 am : link
even in a different offense, was a key / major factor.
Hopefully  
The_Boss : 11/17/2015 10:02 am : link
This benefits Harris. Coughlin said, and I'm paraphrasing, that his workload has been increased in the offense to go along with his stellar ST work. Maybe surrendering some snaps to Nicks (when he's ready) keeps him fresh, especially late in games when he'd, potentially, have to go cover a punt late in the 4th quarter after playing WR.
Also  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 10:02 am : link
keep in mind that the Patriots were sniffing around Nicks a few weeks ago. I wonder if we signed him before they did.
good question about Germany Davis  
micky : 11/17/2015 10:02 am : link
what's happening with this kid?
Obviously his name resonates with us...  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/17/2015 10:02 am : link
and I hope he can help.

I would also really like to see what Geremy Davis can do. Kid is big and strong and showed good hands in the pre-season.
RE: Also  
Curtis in VA : 11/17/2015 10:02 am : link
In comment 12629133 Eric from BBI said:
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keep in mind that the Patriots were sniffing around Nicks a few weeks ago. I wonder if we signed him before they did.


I hate the Patriots
damn auto correct...Geremy  
micky : 11/17/2015 10:03 am : link
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RicFlair : 11/17/2015 10:04 am : link
RE: There were plenty of reports about him pouting over his contract  
jcn56 : 11/17/2015 10:04 am : link
In comment 12629121 Curtis in VA said:
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and he was also reportedly fined many times by the team in his last season.

Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.


Curtis - here's the quote - how does this translate into bad teammate?

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Rapoport was told by multiple sources that Nicks has been fined several times by the Giants for two infractions. The first, for repeatedly being late; the second, for missing treatments. The fines, in general, were "in the thousands for each transgression," according to a team source.
Eric, right  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/17/2015 10:04 am : link
they did just lose Edelman for a spell..
RE: wtf happened to Geremy Davis?  
TexasGmenFan : 11/17/2015 10:06 am : link
In comment 12629127 idiotsavant said:
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aaand, am I remembering that there was a period prior to the knees where Nicks was just being petulant due to UDFA Victor Cruz being the better player? Or did I make that sheite up?

AAAAnd, what does nicks bring that Randle does not have?


actually a good Q. where's Davis?
There is literally zero downside  
nygiants16 : 11/17/2015 10:06 am : link
if he can be a red zone target and the 4th WR that is all the Giants need...
RE: one NAY vote.  
stillpoe : 11/17/2015 10:08 am : link
In comment 12629097 sober297 said:
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wasn't a good clubhouse guy, as per reports.
Plax-lite.


You mean the reports of him mentoring a young Victor Cruz and a rookie Randle, right? Yeah, not a good clubhouse guy at all.
Reducing Harris' workload would seem to be a good idea  
jcn56 : 11/17/2015 10:09 am : link
His impact on STs seems to have declined a bit, maybe we've been asking too much of him.

Same probably goes for Whitlock.
RE: Also  
AcidTest : 11/17/2015 10:09 am : link
In comment 12629133 Eric from BBI said:
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keep in mind that the Patriots were sniffing around Nicks a few weeks ago. I wonder if we signed him before they did.


Agreed, especially with Edelman's broken foot.

As far as Davis is concerned, he's basically the same type of WR as Randle. A big, possession receiver with limited downfield speed. As long as Randle can play, Davis won't get on the field, not as a rookie 6th round pick from Connecticut. Signing Nicks also isn't an indictment of Davis. The Giants just want a veteran presence, especially since their playoff hopes are still very much alive.
I'm not gonna lie. I know he's pretty well cooked but I'm still  
BeerFridge : 11/17/2015 10:11 am : link
happy about this.
RE: RE: There were plenty of reports about him pouting over his contract  
Curtis in VA : 11/17/2015 10:12 am : link
In comment 12629143 jcn56 said:
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In comment 12629121 Curtis in VA said:


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and he was also reportedly fined many times by the team in his last season.

Hey, its not like he shot himself in the leg or blew his fingers off. I would assume he has matured since then and may even be somewhat humbled. Similar to Jacobs when he came back. Thats what I hope for, anyway.



Curtis - here's the quote - how does this translate into bad teammate?



Quote:



Rapoport was told by multiple sources that Nicks has been fined several times by the Giants for two infractions. The first, for repeatedly being late; the second, for missing treatments. The fines, in general, were "in the thousands for each transgression," according to a team source.



He was also really inconsistent on the field that last season. I remember him running the wrong routes at times and dropping balls and it being discussed here. He just wasn't himself physically or mentally. But I wasn't insinuating he was a bad teammate or a bad person. My only point was that he ran into some immaturity issues back then.
nicks...  
Torrag : 11/17/2015 10:12 am : link
/turn back...insert fork
RE: I'm not gonna lie. I know he's pretty well cooked but I'm still  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/17/2015 10:14 am : link
In comment 12629168 BeerFridge said:
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happy about this.


Agreed. Why not?
RE: RE: Also  
FJ : 11/17/2015 10:14 am : link
In comment 12629163 AcidTest said:
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In comment 12629133 Eric from BBI said:


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keep in mind that the Patriots were sniffing around Nicks a few weeks ago. I wonder if we signed him before they did.



Agreed, especially with Edelman's broken foot.

As far as Davis is concerned, he's basically the same type of WR as Randle. A big, possession receiver with limited downfield speed. As long as Randle can play, Davis won't get on the field, not as a rookie 6th round pick from Connecticut. Signing Nicks also isn't an indictment of Davis. The Giants just want a veteran presence, especially since their playoff hopes are still very much alive.

There are some reports that the Patriots were considering Nicks, and now may sign Wayne.
I think there is a chance he can be useful to us  
UberAlias : 11/17/2015 10:15 am : link
I followed things somewhat closely with him at Indi last year. For starters, when he played us in that preseason game last year, he looked every bit the player of old physically. Based on this, I'm not sure it is all a question of physically, moreso mentally.

I kept expecting him to bust out in Indi. It never happened, for whatever reason. Indi had a ton of weapons and Luck had better chemistry with other guys -TY, Reggie Wayne, etc. Hakeem disappeared.
First Guns N Roses  
robbieballs2003 : 11/17/2015 10:15 am : link
and now this? My head is going to explode.
I wonder  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 10:16 am : link
if Welker was the guy had he not signed last week.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 10:17 am : link
Also, #88 is free.
RE: I can wear my Jersey again!!  
oldutican : 11/17/2015 10:18 am : link
In comment 12628988 superspynyg said:
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!


LOL
RE: I wonder  
Jon : 11/17/2015 10:23 am : link
In comment 12629188 Eric from BBI said:
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if Welker was the guy had he not signed last week.


Good question.

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seems like a waste to me  
I Love Clams Casino : 11/17/2015 10:23 am : link
he's washed up
The guy was a very good player for us  
EVERY4YEARS : 11/17/2015 10:23 am : link
We should never have let him or Bradshaw go

Both are top of the line players

The way Eli is heaving them now
Nicks will have a field day
A lot more for opponents to worry about now and they will not be able to double OBJ anymore

The patriots got away with mauling OBJ. I hope the league speaks with its officials and order them to stop that nonsense
Preston Parker  
SHO'NUFF : 11/17/2015 10:25 am : link
would have been a better option, no?
If Nicks..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/17/2015 10:25 am : link
was a "top of the line" player, he'd probably need to do something more than bounce from team to team and not start.
Just move the chains a couple times for us, Hakeem.  
Britt in VA : 11/17/2015 10:26 am : link
Welcome back.
I was hoping the Giants would take a look at Nick Toon  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/17/2015 10:26 am : link
who is on the Rams PS. I was a big fan of his at Wisco, kid has good size and reliable hands. Not sure how his career derailed.

Also was interested in Jared Abbrederis, but the Packers activated him and he's no longer available.
I am very surprised  
Jay on the Island : 11/17/2015 10:27 am : link
that he returned but I will not complain one bit. Hopefully he can at least provide a solid 3rd down option as I am sure his speed is all but gone as so many teams have passed on signing him despite being relatively young.
RE: seems like a waste to me  
nygiants16 : 11/17/2015 10:27 am : link
In comment 12629224 I Love Clams Casino said:
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he's washed up


How is there any risk or downside to this move? If he is washed up then he doesnt see the field but if he can contribute that will be a huge bonus
What the hell.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 10:29 am : link
Seriously? This actually happened?
rooting for him  
mfsd : 11/17/2015 10:29 am : link
would be cool to see him contribute a bit and then end up departing the Giants on a better note than last time

But hard to imagine he has much left
RE: Nicks  
EVERY4YEARS : 11/17/2015 10:30 am : link
In comment 12629096 stretch234 said:
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He cant run anything like Randle right now. If he could he would be playing somewhere.

He could possibly help in the red zone.

Reality is to expect nothing
h

Have you had the stop watch on nicks lately
I'm going to go with the Giants judgement here
Well, he can't do any worse than Cruz did this year  
ZogZerg : 11/17/2015 10:30 am : link
The bar is set sufficiently low.
RE: Just move the chains a couple times for us, Hakeem.  
BeerFridge : 11/17/2015 10:30 am : link
In comment 12629239 Britt in VA said:
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Welcome back.


Yes, we could use a few of those patented back-shoulder sideline first downs.
RE: I wonder if Welker would have been the guy  
jgambrosio : 11/17/2015 10:30 am : link
In comment 12629080 Jon said:
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if he was still available.


Was just thinking the same thing. I also wonder who has the best chance to not only be productive but also stay healthy...
RE: If Nicks..  
EVERY4YEARS : 11/17/2015 10:33 am : link
In comment 12629234 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was a "top of the line" player, he'd probably need to do something more than bounce from team to team and not start.
j

A lot of this is related to politics. Pecking order and contracts

I watched Nicks at Indy last year and he looked good
They look terrible without him
RE: I say this without anything sarcasm  
GMENGianni : 11/17/2015 10:37 am : link
In comment 12629120 jlukes said:
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he can be what James Jones is for Aaron Rodgers.

Big body for in the red zone - has a rapport with the QB - can use his body to make catches even without ideal separation.


Yeah, but McAdoo's scheme is much different than what he's used to, we will see! At least he has all of this week and next week to practice and get on the same page as Eli and the rest of the crew.
Can't Hurt  
Rong5611 : 11/17/2015 10:37 am : link
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It might be hard to expect him to learn a playbook this late  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 10:38 am : link
in the year, but what the hell, why not for a 3rd-4th WR.
Hey, does this mean we've finally signed a first rounder to a second  
BeerFridge : 11/17/2015 10:38 am : link
contract?
The roster management this season  
The_Taxman : 11/17/2015 10:39 am : link
It's been something out of a nightmare. Hanging onto injured players too long, cutting the wrong guys, running razor thin at TE,WR, and S. Add to that signing scrubs and finished players. I get it's late in the season but there had to be something better out there than Nicks who couldn't stick with the Titans or Colts and has the knees and speed of a 70 year old at this point.
RE: The roster management this season  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 10:41 am : link
In comment 12629294 The_Taxman said:
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there had to be something better out there than Nicks who couldn't stick with the Titans or Colts and has the knees and speed of a 70 year old at this point.


We're halfway into the season. I'm not so sure that's true. We are certainly not the only team fighting injuries. Look at what the Packers are trying to run out there. Everyone's desperate.
Give Him a Chance  
NJLCO : 11/17/2015 10:42 am : link
Hakeem welcome back and I wish him only the very best.
If he wants to play and he can help us move those chains --so be it. As I remember he wasn't afraid of the middle of the field and seldom developed alligator arms on crossing patterns. And as most have stated he has history with Eli.
Good Luck and go G-Men
Was Geremy Davis that great in college?  
SomeFan : 11/17/2015 10:42 am : link
he seems like a developmental player at best this year
RE: This is like the Herman Moore signing back in 2002  
T in NJ : 11/17/2015 10:43 am : link
In comment 12629114 Bluenatic said:
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Very, very curious move.

Cut by Colts. Cut by Titans. Worked out for 3 or 4 other teams without getting signed. The guy is cooked.


I agree with the Moore analogy.

Hopefully Nicks can still perform in a limited number of scenarios.
tempered expectations  
stillpoe : 11/17/2015 10:44 am : link
I think we all need to remember that this move, as a few have already pointed out, is geared to provide veteran leadership to the young guys (white, davis) while also creating competition for the 4th spot. White had a pretty good showing last game and Davis has shown potential; adding an experienced, sure/strong handed WR will help. You rarely get an impact FA pickup this late in the year, but I would be happy if Nicks can come in and be a steady 4th WR option, especially in goal line situation.
Well, this is the death of BBI  
Deej : 11/17/2015 10:46 am : link
mark it down. 11/16/2015. Because if the Giants are going to resign Nicks in late 2015, you really cant criticize any hair-brained asshat idea anyone espouses here.

Idiot: Giants should trade for Peyton Manning

Reasonable poster: Giants arent fucking trading for Peyton Manning. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Idiot: Well the Giants resigned Hakeem Nicks in November 2015.

Reasonable poster: Fuck, you might be right. I wonder if I can but an "E." to put on my Eli jersey.
Why the hell not?  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/17/2015 10:47 am : link
I'm not expecting much, but it's worth a shot. Welcome back, Hakeem! (Absolutely nuts that he's only 27)
Taxman  
stretch234 : 11/17/2015 10:47 am : link
What were your solutions and names you were preferring over others.

Vereen & Harris have been excellent players for the team. Meriweather and Dahl as options 6 & 7 at S have been good.

Newhouse being thrust into a starting role has played better than anyone thought

I do not recall a long list of DE, TE, OT and S who were available.

Never forget  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 11/17/2015 10:50 am : link
Those big red mitts.
Link - ( New Window )
If he remembers how to catch the ball  
Ivan15 : 11/17/2015 10:51 am : link
he is ahead of a few of the current receivers.

If he can run 5-8 yard slants and keep a drive going, that's good enough for me.

Although they have survived without Cruz to this point, I am wondering what the Giants are going to do about a slot receiver after the bye week. With Beckham getting double coverage on the outside, maybe they will try to get him easier matchups from the slot.

OR maybe Nicks has enough quick twitch left to play slot receiver since he no longer is a threat on mid-range or deep passes.
I  
AcidTest : 11/17/2015 10:51 am : link
wonder if this signing says something about whether the Giants think Randle can make it through the whole season. In any event, I doubt Nicks gets on the field for a few games while he gains at least some familiarity with the offense. Until then, we just go with the other receivers.
Not a waste, BUT might be too late  
NYG007 : 11/17/2015 10:52 am : link
If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.

We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.

I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.

If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
RE: Not a waste, BUT might be too late  
Joey in VA : 11/17/2015 10:53 am : link
In comment 12629344 NYG007 said:
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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.

We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.

I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.

If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.
Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???
RE: Why the hell not?  
stillpoe : 11/17/2015 10:58 am : link
In comment 12629328 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I'm not expecting much, but it's worth a shot. Welcome back, Hakeem! (Absolutely nuts that he's only 27)


Yeah. I think White had a decent showing last game, but his style of play is more finesse. Nicks, though nowhere near his prime self, still has a power game approach that we don't really have. OBJ's freakish abilities sort of bring you that, but not in the mold of Nicks. If he can bring even a bit of that to the offense with those strong hands, I think it would help the team.
The Titans cut Nicks and opted to go with just 4 wideouts  
j_rud : 11/17/2015 10:59 am : link
That was during final cuts in August, he hasn't been on a roster since. Loved Nicks while he was here but the injuries have taken their toll.
If he is the best available...  
AnnapolisMike : 11/17/2015 10:59 am : link
What the hell. It's not like the Giants are wasting a valuable roster spot on him. If it does not work out they release him.

Hakeem and the Dirty Bird  
siena16 : 11/17/2015 11:01 am : link
Love Hakeem, 2 plays in Giant career that stick out, the TD catch against Atlanta in home playoff game then the dirty bird. And the hail Mary catch against the Packers at the end of the half. Welcome Home
With OBJ drawing prime attention  
Bob in Newburgh : 11/17/2015 11:04 am : link
Nicks should only have to deal with single coverage.

If Eli trusts him so that throws are basically short timing patterns, he should be open to move the chains with some consistency.
Coughlin reacts:  
FranknWeezer : 11/17/2015 11:04 am : link
Good thing I am sitting  
old man : 11/17/2015 11:05 am : link
or the floor would have been my chair.
Wish him all the best here, however/whenever he is used.
And gets another RING this year, then retires a Giant.
RE: Hopefully..  
Vanzetti : 11/17/2015 11:05 am : link
In comment 12629074 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he can be a red zone presence.

If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.


Excellent point.

Obviously injuries have slowed Nicks but you hope the time off has let his body heal and also makes him release this could be his final opportunity.
seems  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 11:05 am : link
like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.
RE: RE: Not a waste, BUT might be too late  
BillKo : 11/17/2015 11:07 am : link
In comment 12629351 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 12629344 NYG007 said:


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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.

We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.

I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.

If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.

Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???


I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.

He's proving he can play WR in the league.
RE: seems  
AnnapolisMike : 11/17/2015 11:09 am : link
In comment 12629401 Eric from BBI said:
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like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.


What did you expect.....Nicks was a big part of the conversation around this team for years. We have been ringing our hands about Nicks for a long time.
this is neither here or there  
djm : 11/17/2015 11:10 am : link
but they were discussing Fitzgerald and all the great WR postseason stretches that he and other great WRs had over the years. And of course no one brought up Nicks in 2011. You know, virtually the greatest postseason performance from a WR ever. No love for Nicks...
Different offense! Different role?  
Ivan15 : 11/17/2015 11:12 am : link
Maybe he can't go deep any longer. Maybe he can't get separation on mid range passes. But maybe he is the best slot receiver on the Giants except for the star receiver who may be too valuable to risk playing in the slot.
I just don't remember  
santacruzom : 11/17/2015 11:13 am : link
enough details of Nicks' injury to understand why it's become so debilitating to his career this many years later. Is his current level of recovery the most that can be hoped for?
RE: RE: seems  
NYG007 : 11/17/2015 11:15 am : link
In comment 12629418 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 12629401 Eric from BBI said:


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like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.



What did you expect.....Nicks was a big part of the conversation around this team for years. We have been ringing our hands about Nicks for a long time.


As usual "I LOVE WHAT I AM SEEING OUT OF HARRIS" is taken as I dont respect what Harris is doing ? Lol. Only BBI. Look Harris, is not a real WR. He is working his tail off and trying to become one. But he was signed to play Special Teams and dominate. He pulled up on a ST Tackle that led to a touchdown last week. If he is spending LESS time focused on WR and more on ST, it is BETTER for our team. We have given up 2 massive game changing PR's this season. HE WAS SIGNED TO BE A DEMON ON SPECIAL TEAMS!

If Nicks can take a handful of less snaps from him at WR, this is a damn good move. Do you know how hard it is to play gunner, returner AND Run routes? I played HS football. I started at WR, and @ safety. And I gunned my freshman year on ST's. These guys of course its 1 trillion times harder than our HS Al Bundy days, but do you know what kind of running your putting on this guy right now? He needs relief, and he needs less snaps at WR. He is a ST beast and working on being a WR.

Again, he is not a real NFL WR.. yet
If nothing else he can retire as a giant now  
Canton : 11/17/2015 11:15 am : link
Forever greatful for the super bowl runs.
The circulation in Nicks..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/17/2015 11:15 am : link
leg is permanently disrupted and he has to use compression hose daily. This has caused him to not have the speed he once had. He should still be able to run routes and catch using those mammoth hands, but to expect him to be anything but a 4th WR is probably hoping against hope.
RE: I just don't remember  
Vanzetti : 11/17/2015 11:16 am : link
In comment 12629427 santacruzom said:
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enough details of Nicks' injury to understand why it's become so debilitating to his career this many years later. Is his current level of recovery the most that can be hoped for?


I don't think we ever fully got the details of what was wrong with Nicks.

Also, he used the plural "injuries" when referring to his last year with the Giants. Sounds like the foot injury led to subsequent problems with the knee.
Nicks 2011 postseason compared to the best ever  
djm : 11/17/2015 11:16 am : link
total receptions = 28 (2nd)
total yards = 444 (2nd)
total TDs 4 (5th)


By the way the longest postseason reception of all time belongs to Shannon Sharpe--96 yarder during the 2000 postseason. Donald Driver is 4th with the 90 yarder against NYG in 2007 NFC Title game..

^  
NYG007 : 11/17/2015 11:17 am : link
quoted wrong post, sorry dude, mean other quote that quoted mine.
this thread  
djm : 11/17/2015 11:17 am : link
further proof that some just like to get mad at anything.

Nicks started 6 games for Indy  
EVERY4YEARS : 11/17/2015 11:17 am : link
He had 38 catches for 405 yes and 4 TDS

NOT BAD

I'll take it, and he's likely even healthier now (as is Bradshaw)
It's kind of funny that  
phil in arizona : 11/17/2015 11:18 am : link
if Welker had waited another week he'd likely be able to choose between signing here or with the Pats.
RE: Not a waste, BUT might be too late  
clatterbuck : 11/17/2015 11:20 am : link
In comment 12629344 NYG007 said:
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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.

We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.

I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.

If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.


Why isn't Harris a "real" wide receiver? He's played well -- 4 TDs, good hands, makes tough catches. What's not real?
RE: RE: Not a waste, BUT might be too late  
EVERY4YEARS : 11/17/2015 11:22 am : link
In comment 12629459 clatterbuck said:
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In comment 12629344 NYG007 said:


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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.

We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.

I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.

If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.



Why isn't Harris a "real" wide receiver? He's played well -- 4 TDs, good hands, makes tough catches. What's not real?


You just can't please some of these experts
RE: RE: RE: Not a waste, BUT might be too late  
shyster : 11/17/2015 11:22 am : link
In comment 12629405 BillKo said:
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In comment 12629351 Joey in VA said:


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In comment 12629344 NYG007 said:


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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.

We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.

I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.

If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.

Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???



I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.

He's proving he can play WR in the league.


Harris had a great Week 10. In the previous four games he had a total of 8 receptions for 99 yards. Total. While playing an average of 72% of offensive snaps in those four games.

He has a lot to prove in terms of his ability to be a consistent target when teams are giving him a reasonable amount of attention. He also has a lot on his plate in special teams.

There needs to be another useful option at WR. Nicks, White, Davis, whoever.

He w
He is a better ST  
NYG007 : 11/17/2015 11:24 am : link
than he is a WR. Again, I love what he is doing, but our ST's lost the game Sunday. Yes, 5 other things would have one it, but that was one of them. Harris pulled up, was right there - more focus there, a handful of plays less at WR, maybe he gets better AT BOTH.

Cole Beasley is 4 feet and played more than him in Dallas. Eli is making him a WR, not the other way around. Let's be real here folks.
What the hell  
PaulN : 11/17/2015 11:24 am : link
I loved the Homer Jones comment.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Not a waste, BUT might be too late  
NYG007 : 11/17/2015 11:25 am : link
In comment 12629467 shyster said:
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In comment 12629405 BillKo said:


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In comment 12629351 Joey in VA said:


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In comment 12629344 NYG007 said:


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If TC made a move to a vet wr (like James Jones) or Nicks for week 1, we win Dallas and Atlanta game hands down.

We are close to the lead league in drops, and drops in weeks 1 and 2 on 3rd down IN SCORING position were so brutal. Eli makes wr's, Nicks is 27. This may be too late, but it might also be just what we need on 3rd downs.

I love what Harris is doing, but let's be honest, Harris is not a real WR.

If Nicks has 50% left, and is healed, this is a MUCH needed signing. Eli just needs guys who can move the chains.

Not a real WR? Can you please elaborate on that? He runs routes, gets open, catches the ball and scores TDs. What else is there? Oh he also blocks like a demon in the running game. What am I missing here???



I'm with you on this one......WTF? Harris has been a great pickup, and not just for specials. He signed here because he wanted to get more of a chance, he wasn't getting that in Dallas.

He's proving he can play WR in the league.



Harris had a great Week 10. In the previous four games he had a total of 8 receptions for 99 yards. Total. While playing an average of 72% of offensive snaps in those four games.

He has a lot to prove in terms of his ability to be a consistent target when teams are giving him a reasonable amount of attention. He also has a lot on his plate in special teams.

There needs to be another useful option at WR. Nicks, White, Davis, whoever.

He w


Could not agree more, great post
and really  
djm : 11/17/2015 11:27 am : link
is it so bad that the Giants decided to employ a former great here? At the very least I like that Nicks has a job for a little longer. We could do worse than Nicks as the 4th 5th guy...and he's still earning some loot. Good for him...

The Giants take care of their own. I love that about them.
RE: seems  
AcidTest : 11/17/2015 11:27 am : link
In comment 12629401 Eric from BBI said:
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like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.


Agreed. He doesn't know the offense, and won't for at least a month. Unless somebody gets injured, he's just insurance, although he might be activated if we reach the playoffs.
This surprises me just because how obvious his issues with the  
Devon : 11/17/2015 11:30 am : link
staff were by the end.

Desperation can override a lot though, I suppose. He's probably not going to do much here, but I'm glad for his sake at least someone signed him after how he many teams he'd worked out for this year to no avail.
Don't know what he has left but  
Watson : 11/17/2015 11:30 am : link
obviously wish him well.
RE: If he remembers how to catch the ball  
FJ : 11/17/2015 11:33 am : link
In comment 12629340 Ivan15 said:
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he is ahead of a few of the current receivers.

If he can run 5-8 yard slants and keep a drive going, that's good enough for me.

Although they have survived without Cruz to this point, I am wondering what the Giants are going to do about a slot receiver after the bye week. With Beckham getting double coverage on the outside, maybe they will try to get him easier matchups from the slot.

OR maybe Nicks has enough quick twitch left to play slot receiver since he no longer is a threat on mid-range or deep passes.

Beckham already plays from the slot quite a bit.
He's a depth signing, and why not? WHo else would be available  
Victor in CT : 11/17/2015 11:34 am : link
thie late in the year. I hope he's healthy and can help out even if only as a veteran presence.
Can he get separation?  
Simms11 : 11/17/2015 11:35 am : link
he's still pretty strong, I assume, and so a jam will be harder for most CBs. He and Eli ran the back shoulder fade to perfection and so perhaps we'll see a few of those between those two, as well. I'm sure he won't see more then a few balls a game. If he's the #4 WR he'll probably only play, at least initially, in spread 4 WR sets anyway.

Ultimately, I think it's nice to add another reliable target for Eli, regardless of how it turns out.

If Nicks can somehow resurrect his career, perhaps he sticks around next year too, but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet.
We may never know...  
Torrag : 11/17/2015 11:35 am : link
...but if they missed out on adding Welker dragging their feet with Cruz it's yet another instance of negligent roster evaluation and mis-management.
They're bringing in Hakeem Nicks  
Giantology : 11/17/2015 11:35 am : link
to teach the rest of our WRs how to finish games
But, But, But...?  
Stan in LA : 11/17/2015 11:37 am : link
Can he play special teams?
I realize this means nothing, but  
jpennyva : 11/17/2015 11:44 am : link
the nostalgia of the signing makes me happy. I think Nicks' familiarity with Eli will help him along with learning the new offense and if he gets us a few first downs and, hopefully, some touchdowns, it will be worth it.

I like getting the band back together. There's something about it that feels good in what has otherwise been such a frustrating season.

I remain hopeful yet realistic.
I guess it's time to break out my Nicks jersey!  
TheMick7 : 11/17/2015 11:51 am : link
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RE: We may never know...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 11:53 am : link
In comment 12629527 Torrag said:
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...but if they missed out on adding Welker dragging their feet with Cruz it's yet another instance of negligent roster evaluation and mis-management.


I don't think Cruz played into the thought of adding Welker at all. If they thought he could help, they would have signed him when he was here for a tryout and they were actively looking for a WR after cutting Parker.

Everybody ran with Welker like it's a foregone conclusion they would sign him. It's not. There's a reason he's not been in the game for a while. No team wants to be the team that put him on the field when he takes the hit that's going to finally retire him, and there's plenty of conversation on whether he should even be allowed to play, or if the union should protect him from himself.
Its probably wrong to expect much...  
Reb8thVA : 11/17/2015 11:56 am : link
but for his sake, I hope that Nicks can resurrect his career and the Giants reap the rewards. Much like JPP, you hope that a talented young man gets another chance.
How is he possibly only 27 years old  
Aaroninma : 11/17/2015 12:06 pm : link
Maybe he has one more stretch in his body so he can ride off into the sunset.

"Its a Beckham and Randle game, make em go to Nicks....."

when the cupboard is bare  
Emil : 11/17/2015 12:08 pm : link
this is what happens.

Very happy for Hakeem Nicks and I wish him all the best. I've never seen a WR go from dominant to mediocre so fast. I think he can play a role on this team. He is not going to be a #1 (not even a #2), not going draw a team's #1 CB, and he will not draw double coverage. However, he always used his body well, always had good hands, and seemed to make the catch even if did not have separation. I think Nicks will work the outside, benefit from the double coverage OBJ receives, and could very well be a good 3rd down, intermediate yardage, move the chains type.

The other thing you have to consider is that even though Harris has been playing very well the Giants don't want to over work him at WR. Harris needs to play all the special teams snaps and still serve as the third WR. A player like Nicks gives the coaching staff a chance to better manage Harris' workload.
Eli obviously trusts him.  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/17/2015 12:08 pm : link
That is a big part of who they would bring in at this point. Its always been a little bit of a mystery of how he declined so quickly. Perhaps the time off has done something good in terms of his legs.
Injuries have taken away his his quickness and speed  
USAF NYG Fan : 11/17/2015 12:11 pm : link
I think he may struggle to get open but this west coast offense might favor things for him. Eli would need to get the timing down with him but it could work. I think he's still good at getting contested balls and making the difficult catches. Those huge hands of his didn't shrink. He can probably continue his career as a possession receiver.

Still, he'd be 4th in the rotation at best right now.
I love the move  
Howyadoin : 11/17/2015 12:14 pm : link
Two receivers with the biggest hands in league. Hopefully he can get in shape within the week.
When did Nicks get rehabilitated on BBI?  
Reese's Pieces : 11/17/2015 12:15 pm : link
Last I remember a large majority of posters, including some of the most respected, were sure he was doggin' in 2013 because the Giants had signed Cruz to a big extension instead of Nicks.

That was a plausible argument. The counter-argument, that a player would be a fool to play badly on purpose in a contract year, just seemed like a stronger argument.

The Colts brought back Bradshaw. Hasn't done much in four games, but he did catch a game-winning TD pass. Last year he had 90 carries for a very respectable 4.7 y/c and caught 38 passes, 6 for touchdowns.

And where's Manningham? He's better than Randle. And Jacobs.

Back to the future!
Looks like  
Howyadoin : 11/17/2015 12:16 pm : link
His old number is available too..maybe an omen
the irony  
ColHowPepper : 11/17/2015 12:20 pm : link
of this move is quite rich, under the circumstances
a big red (i mean green) zone target with good hands  
PerpetualNervousness : 11/17/2015 12:27 pm : link
so why not? we've been bad inside the 20 all season. at minimum he'll give teams something else to worry about when we're near the end zone.
I think at this point  
giantgiantfan : 11/17/2015 12:40 pm : link
he is a possession receiver only, but he's got great hands. But hey Hakeem go ahead and make my comment look stupid and start torching that 1 on 1 you'll be getting.
He tried out a few weeks back  
Doomster : 11/17/2015 12:44 pm : link
and wasn't signed....so there just isn't anyone out there?

What does that do for Geremy Davis' confidence?

Watching him play with Luck, there was no separation from defenders.....

Nicks had good hands.....

So the back shoulder throw might still be there.....

If Eli plays him like a slower possession receiver, and not the #1 he use to be, there are possibilities here...Teams will concentrate on OBj, Harris, and Randle....this creates Hakeem as the 4th option.....as long as his head does not get in the way......he is no longer the primary target...if he accepts his role, he could be useful....
Imma throw this out here  
giantgiantfan : 11/17/2015 12:45 pm : link
I don't think James Jones is ANY better than Nicks at this point. They pretty much give you the same thing. So we finally got our Jones, too bad we didn't have him week 1.
Nicks has very good hands, always has had...  
Torrag : 11/17/2015 12:46 pm : link
...the wheels are shot.
Is today April 1?  
Bill in UT : 11/17/2015 12:51 pm : link
Shockey's next
Bill  
beatrixkiddo : 11/17/2015 12:56 pm : link
does that mean we get a 2nd rounder instead of a 4th!!!

lmao.
RE: Keep  
Arcanum : 11/17/2015 12:58 pm : link
In comment 12629021 Eric from BBI said:
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in mind it will take him some time. Not the same system as when he left.



Yeah, but he does have chemistry with Eli, So they should help.. I like the signing. I think he'll be used more as a possession receiver
I wonder if they almost play him in a hybrid role like Colston  
Eric on Li : 11/17/2015 1:03 pm : link
as a physical slot WR who runs a lot of routes that TE's typically run. Unless the time off improved his legs and gave him back some of his explosiveness (doubtful) I find it hard to believe he'll be able to get much separation on the outside. That said if he can attack the football in the air, block, and regain some chemistry with Eli I could see him adding something to this offense.
More weapons  
Arcanum : 11/17/2015 1:04 pm : link
For Eli. This will not interfer with Harris. Who I think we get more time on the outside, as well as the slot. Nicks is a possession type guy.. Honestly, with Nicks being done(supposedly), what can RR do, that he can't ?
RE: I can wear my Jersey again!!  
Fred-in-Florida : 11/17/2015 1:06 pm : link
In comment 12628988 superspynyg said:
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!


I have his poster hanging in my Garage! Hated how it ended the 1st time. He was amazing in the regular season game vs Tampa . That was the beginning of the end! Thought the d-back stepped on his ankle/leg on purpose
They're getting the band back together!  
Torn Tendon : 11/17/2015 1:08 pm : link
Strahan next?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 1:09 pm : link
Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 2h2 hours ago New York, USA

Antrel on Giants bringing back Nicks: "I think that's the best move the Giants could have made.''

Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 2h2 hours ago

Rolle on Hakeem Nicks: "He's definitely going to help the Giants there's no doubt about it."
amazing how many people who have no idea  
Ron Johnson : 11/17/2015 1:09 pm : link
what kind of shape he's in have an opinion.

I hope he's found religion after being out of the league. It's a great opportunity for him. Too many throws now going to Tye and Cunningham and White
RE: RE: seems  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 1:10 pm : link
In comment 12629490 AcidTest said:
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In comment 12629401 Eric from BBI said:


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like a lot of hand-wringing on this thread for a guy who may not even be active on game day the rest of the season.



Agreed. He doesn't know the offense, and won't for at least a month. Unless somebody gets injured, he's just insurance, although he might be activated if we reach the playoffs.


I dunno. I feel like if they thought he'd need a month, they'd just go with Davis and avoid this whole headline.
Hooking up  
natefit : 11/17/2015 1:17 pm : link
with an old flame sometimes sounds better until you actually do it.
TTH  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 1:17 pm : link
they brought in Nicks and Welker a month ago and decided to hold off because they thought Cruz would be back. Now Cruz and Welker are not options.

My guess is this is strictly an insurance policy in case someone gets hurt.
Lets hope  
NYG4246 : 11/17/2015 1:21 pm : link
for a little Blackburn 2.0

I'm a fan of Nicks, always have been. Hopefully with sitting out half the season he had time to heal up and get right. Hakeem Nicks as a #3 or 4 is just fine by me.
look at what we ask  
area junc : 11/17/2015 1:25 pm : link
the receiver opposite Beckham - beat a 1on1 and Eli will throw u open. it's all contested catches. giants obviously feel nicks can do it

this will (hopefully) push randle too
RE: RE: RE: seems  
ColHowPepper : 11/17/2015 1:26 pm : link
In comment 12629823 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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.... I dunno. I feel like if they thought he'd need a month, they'd just go with Davis and avoid this whole headline.


I've never been one of those who thinks TC won't play rookies if the rookie can play (unlike the draftees who could not). However, at this point in the season, six games to determine the Giants' playoff fate, with a bye to get a bead on what Nicks can/cannot do, Coughlin may be opting for the experienced hand.
At this point, it can't hurt  
Matt M. : 11/17/2015 1:35 pm : link
I wonder how much he has left. But, with his big body and great hands, it's worth a shot.

for those knocking Harris, I have no problem with him. He has been our 2nd best WR.
Antrell always had a lot to say  
Nitro : 11/17/2015 1:36 pm : link
usually isn't worth much though, at the end of the day
It wouldn't shock me...  
Vinny from Danbury : 11/17/2015 1:48 pm : link
if he's active against the Redskins. By signing him today the have almost two full weeks to coach him up, and get some reps with the team, and with Eli. He's probably a better blocker than any other WR on this team right now, which could help our stagnant running game, which always gets shut down on outside runs, partially because our WR's are not good blockers. I also have no doubt at all he could learn enough of the playbook to be useful in certain situations in just two weeks.

He's not a world beater any more, but he can possibly be a useful situational role player for us over these last 6 games.
My highest hope for Hakeem  
dune69 : 11/17/2015 1:48 pm : link
is that he can get on the field and make some catches for key first downs out of the spread offense. Anything more would be gravy.
You know this team is a joke when  
RForlan789 : 11/17/2015 1:51 pm : link
it's November 17th, 2015 and we're talking about the likes of Hakeem Nicks. I haven't seen that guy on the field since 2012. I remember when Coughlin called his players performance embarrassing after the Seattle 23-0 loss and Nicks said nah it wasn't, yes it was. Own up to playing like garbage and beat yourself up mentally.

I don't want this pest in my team's locker room.
I think  
dorgan : 11/17/2015 1:51 pm : link
he'll contribute. The last thing I want to see is him running slants. Anything else, fine, but no slants.
"Own up to playing like garbage and beat yourself up mentally. "  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 1:52 pm : link
lmao
dorgan  
Matt M. : 11/17/2015 1:53 pm : link
Why no slants? Wouldn't he be perfect for those with his big hands and the way he uses his body?
RE: You know this team is a joke when  
GMenLTS : 11/17/2015 1:54 pm : link
In comment 12629963 RForlan789 said:
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it's November 17th, 2015 and we're talking about the likes of Hakeem Nicks. I haven't seen that guy on the field since 2012. I remember when Coughlin called his players performance embarrassing after the Seattle 23-0 loss and Nicks said nah it wasn't, yes it was. Own up to playing like garbage and beat yourself up mentally.

I don't want this pest in my team's locker room.


You should probably save yourself from the rest of the season and go play in traffic.
Matt M  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 1:55 pm : link
I assume dorgan is having flashbacks to the Dallas game where Hakeem cost us the contest.
I think  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/17/2015 1:56 pm : link
he did the same against Philly once too...kind of gave up on the route, resulting in a pick.
RE: Matt M  
Matt M. : 11/17/2015 1:57 pm : link
In comment 12629974 Eric from BBI said:
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I assume dorgan is having flashbacks to the Dallas game where Hakeem cost us the contest.
Yes, but overall it would seem like this is the type of offense he could still be productive in. He will not be needed to stretch the field or pick up a ton of YAC. He will be asked to move the chains most likely, with mostly short and intermediate routes. They will likely ask him to run a lot of the back shoulder fades and regular fades they've been running lately, as well as come back routes so he can use his body and hands.
RE: I was hoping  
Jay in Toronto : 11/17/2015 1:59 pm : link
In comment 12629009 JesseS said:
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we'd sign Herman Moore instead.


Homer Jones???
RE: I think  
dorgan : 11/17/2015 2:03 pm : link
In comment 12629978 Eric from BBI said:
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he did the same against Philly once too...kind of gave up on the route, resulting in a pick.


Yes, that's it. He did it 3 times. I don't recall who we played in that third game. Two were interceptions, the third (the one I can't remember) should have been intercepted.

He gives up on them instead of flattening out the route when he's challenged from the inside.
Comeback routes and back shoulders  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 2:04 pm : link
are good concepts, but there's a lot that goes into it.

If you know a guy can't beat you deep and lacks explosion, you can sit on those comebacks. Nicks has to have some bounce in his step and be able to come out of breaks hard in order for those tactics to work. I don't think we've seen him doing that in quite some time.
RE: Comeback routes and back shoulders  
crick n NC : 11/17/2015 2:06 pm : link
In comment 12629999 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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are good concepts, but there's a lot that goes into it.

If you know a guy can't beat you deep and lacks explosion, you can sit on those comebacks. Nicks has to have some bounce in his step and be able to come out of breaks hard in order for those tactics to work. I don't think we've seen him doing that in quite some time.


Nicks getting deep in my opinion was never much to do with his speed, he was always good one on one with the ball in the air. I believe he can still do these type of things
Yeah, he wasn't really a speed guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 2:11 pm : link
but he has less of that now than he did, and there's also more than just straight line speed at play here.

Cruz wasn't great because of his straight line speed. It's what he could do when he planted his feet and cut at the top of his route, or how he could get off the line of scrimmage with his first step and his hip motion. I would like to see what Nicks is capable of these days. Should be interesting.
I say HELL YEA! And welcome back Hakeem  
eightshamrocks : 11/17/2015 2:13 pm : link
I saw a play in preseason for the Titans where Nicks caught a pass and ran down field for 40 plus yards. Granted it was only preseason, but that showed me that Nicks still has gas left in the tank. The Giants have nothing to lose so to me its a great signing.
hakeem  
Les in TO : 11/17/2015 2:26 pm : link
will always have a special place in giants history for his performance in the 2011 super bowl run. the catch and run against Atlanta and the hail mary catch against green bay were both amazing.

I don't expect much more than herman moore gave us, but I'm happy to see him back home to probably finish his career.
Could be great move. Nicks is a sure handed possession receiver.  
TMS : 11/17/2015 3:03 pm : link
The kind ELI needs in this quick drop, quick pass offense. Too many passes that hit our receivers in the hands are bobbled or dropped. Thats not Nicks. Getting him open is another story with his bad wheels. We will see.
Hopefully, ...  
BronxBob : 11/17/2015 3:10 pm : link
... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.
RE: Hopefully, ...  
David in LA : 11/17/2015 3:16 pm : link
In comment 12630173 BronxBob said:
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... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.


I like how Nicks' 2011 postseason is lost on some ungrateful fans.
RE: ...  
The 12th Man : 11/17/2015 3:18 pm : link
In comment 12629817 Eric from BBI said:
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Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 2h2 hours ago New York, USA

Antrel on Giants bringing back Nicks: "I think that's the best move the Giants could have made.''

Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 2h2 hours ago

Rolle on Hakeem Nicks: "He's definitely going to help the Giants there's no doubt about it."


I heard the interview with Rolle on WFAN. Rolle said best move the Giants could have made for themselves. He continued that Nicks as got to be humbled by wanting to play this game and he is sitting at home instead. He believes the Giants are going to get a very motivated player with a ton of talent who realizes this might be his last chance. Thinks he's definitely going to help the Giants there is no doubt about it. I agree with Rolle I like this signing.
Odd how it has come to this.  
rocco8112 : 11/17/2015 3:29 pm : link

I hope we all get the storybook ending and he produces. But I will not hold my breath. Even though he has done jack since he left the G-men I still think there was something fishy about his 2013 campaign.

He basically was benched for that Dallas game, the biggest of the year, and I still see him jogging through routes against the Seahawks and failing to give any effort on quick slants in what I think was one of the Eagle games that year. Obviously something happened physically, but I think there was a mental or attitude component to his decline as well. Never have I seen a player just evaporate like Nicks did. Unless he was juicing or something.

Hopefully Rolle is right and his time away has changed him.
If there was anything to that  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/17/2015 3:36 pm : link
he would not be here today. When the Giants part ways with guys that leave on bad or questionable terms, it's rare that they are ever asked back.

Frankly the team even exploring this should put those rumors to bed.
RE: If there was anything to that  
rocco8112 : 11/17/2015 3:43 pm : link
In comment 12630235 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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he would not be here today. When the Giants part ways with guys that leave on bad or questionable terms, it's rare that they are ever asked back.

Frankly the team even exploring this should put those rumors to bed.



good point

still strange to me though
I wanted him or Welker signed weeks ago  
JOrthman : 11/17/2015 3:49 pm : link
I'm glad they finally came to their senses. We were just too thin at WR even when we thought Cruz might come back.
Red zone option  
CT Charlie : 11/17/2015 3:56 pm : link
for 6 games. Excellent hands and strong. OK by me.
RE: Hopefully..  
Fort Mill Mike : 11/17/2015 4:06 pm : link
In comment 12629074 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he can be a red zone presence.

If you think about it, he could be what James Jones was the first couple weeks in GB - a body who can make catches in the red zone. He won't get separation anymore, but neither does Jones.


If I recall, wasn't he a pretty good blocker, when called on?
It's crazy that Nicks is still only 27 years old  
Eric on Li : 11/17/2015 4:08 pm : link
hopefully he's got some juice left and he can make some plays down the stretch.
It's not like we have anything to lose  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/17/2015 4:17 pm : link
Victor was taking a roster spot, anyway... so no one is losing a job over this.
Cool  
JPinstripes : 11/17/2015 5:31 pm : link
He is a long shot, but I will be rooting like heck for him. One of my favorite Giants.

Red zone, back shoulder, TD!
RE: It's crazy that Nicks is still only 27 years old  
HomerJones45 : 11/17/2015 6:26 pm : link
In comment 12630311 Eric on Li said:
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hopefully he's got some juice left and he can make some plays down the stretch.
Hard to believe he is only 27.

BTW, Homer Jones is 74 years old and still alive. Here is an old article on him for those interested.
Homer Jones- NY Giants star - ( New Window )
RE: RE: It's crazy that Nicks is still only 27 years old  
BigBlueShock : 11/17/2015 6:30 pm : link
In comment 12630575 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 12630311 Eric on Li said:


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hopefully he's got some juice left and he can make some plays down the stretch.

Hard to believe he is only 27.

BTW, Homer Jones is 74 years old and still alive. Here is an old article on him for those interested. Homer Jones- NY Giants star - ( New Window )

So, wait. You're not really Homer Jones? You bastard!

Bryan Kehl is so much cooler than Homer Jones.
Well, .......  
short lease : 11/17/2015 7:14 pm : link
He is no James Jones.
RE: Well, .......  
hudson : 11/17/2015 7:16 pm : link
In comment 12630660 short lease said:
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He is no James Jones.

Was just thinking that, imagine if we kept Jones and cut Parker at the start of the season....I still want to know whose decision that was?
RE: RE: Well, .......  
short lease : 11/17/2015 7:23 pm : link
In comment 12630665 hudson said:
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In comment 12630660 short lease said:


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He is no James Jones.


Was just thinking that, imagine if we kept Jones and cut Parker at the start of the season....I still want to know whose decision that was?


Hudson ... I was just kidding around (being a bit of a prick) but, yeah ... you can always ask "what if?" - even if it is a futile question. No sense and worrying about it now - especially since many here have beaten the James Jones Horse to death. ; )
Have to admit I didn't see this one coming...  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 11/17/2015 7:25 pm : link
But what the hell?
Love it  
joeinpa : 11/17/2015 8:37 pm : link
He ll prove the experts on this site wrong just like JPP Did
RE: It's crazy that Nicks is still only 27 years old  
short lease : 11/17/2015 9:13 pm : link
In comment 12630311 Eric on Li said:
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hopefully he's got some juice left and he can make some plays down the stretch.


Wow ... I can't believe he is only 27.

Maybe the reports of his demise is highly exaggerated? IDK.

Fingers crossed.
Before he left here..  
EricJ : 11/17/2015 9:34 pm : link
he could no longer separate and shake the CB. At this point, the only positive is that he probably still has good hands.
2015 Preseason highlight  
shyster : 11/17/2015 10:04 pm : link
Nice first move after the catch and strong enough to shed the downfield tackle.

2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: 2015 Preseason highlight  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/18/2015 1:18 am : link
In comment 12631131 shyster said:
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Nice first move after the catch and strong enough to shed the downfield tackle.

2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there. Link - ( New Window )


Thanks for posting.

The guy is 27 years old. He is injury prone and that's the risk if we were counting on him to be a top 2 receiver (we aren't), but I don't think there's sufficient proof to say his body is permanently slowed down and weaker from his previous injuries.

I like this move, and I don't think it's so far fetched to say he can be an effective playmaker for this team.
They can use him as a Red Zone threat  
JohnF : 11/18/2015 6:36 am : link
He'd be effective inside the 20, as a match up against smaller DB's, or running the pick play with another WR or Vereen.

Between the 20's, you'd want Randle (or IMO Harris, who is playing better than Randle at this point...more speed). I know that would hurt specials, but I think we have other people who could do returns.
Always thought that the good Nicks  
TMS : 11/18/2015 8:58 am : link
resembled Anquan Bolden. Similar size and skill sets (Nicks a little lighter). Boldin is older and not as fast anymore either, but still is making plays with his toughness and hands. Maybe Nicks can do the same. If so we have done very well here.
RE: RE: Hopefully, ...  
BronxBob : 11/19/2015 9:29 am : link
In comment 12630189 David in LA said:
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In comment 12630173 BronxBob said:


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... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.



I like how Nicks' 2011 postseason is lost on some ungrateful fans.


Sorry, you don't get to cash in a nice postseason for the right to throw away an entire season after that. Can we have a TEAM!
RE: 2015 Preseason highlight  
shyster : 11/19/2015 1:51 pm : link
In comment 12631131 shyster said:
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Nice first move after the catch and strong enough to shed the downfield tackle.

2011 Nicks is not walking through the door but still something there. Link - ( New Window )


Since this vid seems to be what we have on tape for the 2015 version of Nicks, looked a bit closer at the Rams defenders involved (for real NFL players or preseason fodder?)

26 is Mark Barron, starter and 4.54 guy coming out of college. He initially closes on Nicks and thinks he can go for the strip tackle but winds up tackling air.

38 (who angles Nicks out of bounds) is Cody Davis, who plays all the special teams for the Rams and is in the NFL because he is a freaky athlete: 4.41 on his pro day and 41 inch vertical.

Since Nicks was never a speed guy to begin with (only a 4.63 combine), I can't look at this and see that he has lost that much straight line speed.

47 (the CB who gets juked) is Marcus Roberson, also on the Rams roster as a reserve.
RE: Hopefully, ...  
Sonic Youth : 11/19/2015 1:58 pm : link
In comment 12630173 BronxBob said:
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... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.

Lol. 2011 postseason? Hello? 09 and 10?

Let me guess, you also hate Tiki Barber, think Victor Cruz gave up on rehab to post things on Instagram, and that Kehl had no business posting on this board.
RE: RE: Hopefully, ...  
BronxBob : 11/19/2015 2:56 pm : link
In comment 12634251 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 12630173 BronxBob said:


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... this quitter never sees the field. Myles White has twice the guts and drive Nicks has ever shown.


Lol. 2011 postseason? Hello? 09 and 10?

Let me guess, you also hate Tiki Barber, think Victor Cruz gave up on rehab to post things on Instagram, and that Kehl had no business posting on this board.



Don't put words in my mouth. The guy made no effort whatsoever his last season with the team. Now that he's back ON the team, that's more noteworthy than what he accomplished the few seasons he bothered to make the effort.
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