then why not just use a late round pick on him (6th or 7th). At that point those picks are crap shots anyway, and he's proving so far to be worth the risk.
Because he was going to sit out the year and re-enter the draft next year if anyone drafted him in those rounds. He was quite clear on that. It was all about not wanting his rookie contract to be slotted for the money of a low round pick.
Surrounding him at the time, it makes sense no team ended up drafting him.
I completely disagree. The odds were far greater that Collins would have been cleared and panned out for a team drafting him in the 7th round than some random 7th round pick, who may go undrafted anyway if the team didn't take him, emerging into an impact player.
LakeGeorgeGiant said:
How much did he get paid... I assume there is a cap on contracts for undrafted players?
Beer Man said:
Yep, that's why there was no bidding war.
Although UDFAs are limited to three-year contracts at the minimum salary, with nominal bonuses and incentives, the Cowboys did what they could to entice Collins financially. The most transparent aspect was that they guaranteed the full amount of the contract, unconditionally. Any team that wanted to play probably had to offer that much just to get a seat at the table. Dallas also seems to have offered some reassurance regarding renegotiation after two years - which, as we have discussed earlier, was the key reason Collins's camp wanted him to be a UDFA rather than a late draft pick.
Were additional cash or incentives offered under the table? I can only say that I would be shocked - SHOCKED - if America's Team resorted to such seedy recruiting tactics.
Another point worth noting is that Collins is eligible for the League-wide incentive pool, which will add six-figure sums to his salary in 2015 and 2016 if he remains a starter.
There are, in fact, numerous scenarios in which Collins's career earnings will be higher with him entering the League as a UDFA than if he had been drafted by Dallas with the 27th pick. Of course, a typical UDFA makes far less in his NFL career than any first-round pick: most get cut in camp and never get a paycheck; a minority get a token bonus or scratch their way onto a practice squad; a select few make 53-man rosters. But Collins isn't a typical UDFA. He's entrenched in Dallas's plans.
Its over, it's done. I don't think the Giants had a real chance anyway. The article basically focused on Miami and Dallas, two warm weather teams. He jumped to the team that had the best chance to win as an undrafted rookie. End of story.
Why keep on bringing this up? Its over, it's done.... End of story.
How many threads has BBI seen on the defensive holding penalty in Super Bowl XXXV? Season-crushing TDs by Al Toon and Flipper Anderson in consecutive years? Sean Landeta's whiff? Mark Jackson's drop? Plaxico Burress's stupidity?
Dead horses venture here at their own risk, as beatings are likely. It's what we do.
There isn't a word to describe your level of stupidity.
I completely disagree. The odds were far greater that Collins would have been cleared and panned out for a team drafting him in the 7th round than some random 7th round pick, who may go undrafted anyway if the team didn't take him, emerging into an impact player.
But what is done is done. Time to move on.
Had no team shown interest moments after the draft i would agree.
How much did he get paid... I assume there is a cap on contracts for undrafted players?
Beer Man said:
Yep, that's why there was no bidding war.
Although UDFAs are limited to three-year contracts at the minimum salary, with nominal bonuses and incentives, the Cowboys did what they could to entice Collins financially. The most transparent aspect was that they guaranteed the full amount of the contract, unconditionally. Any team that wanted to play probably had to offer that much just to get a seat at the table. Dallas also seems to have offered some reassurance regarding renegotiation after two years - which, as we have discussed earlier, was the key reason Collins's camp wanted him to be a UDFA rather than a late draft pick.
Were additional cash or incentives offered under the table? I can only say that I would be shocked - SHOCKED - if America's Team resorted to such seedy recruiting tactics.
Another point worth noting is that Collins is eligible for the League-wide incentive pool, which will add six-figure sums to his salary in 2015 and 2016 if he remains a starter.
There are, in fact, numerous scenarios in which Collins's career earnings will be higher with him entering the League as a UDFA than if he had been drafted by Dallas with the 27th pick. Of course, a typical UDFA makes far less in his NFL career than any first-round pick: most get cut in camp and never get a paycheck; a minority get a token bonus or scratch their way onto a practice squad; a select few make 53-man rosters. But Collins isn't a typical UDFA. He's entrenched in Dallas's plans.
Heh heh, this was funny, I definitely chuckled.
Dead horses venture here at their own risk, as beatings are likely. It's what we do.