for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

NFT: Knicks @ Rockets (Sat, 8pm)

Deej : 11/21/2015 7:42 pm
Dwight not playing. Harden not playing defense.
Haha  
robbieballs2003 : 11/21/2015 7:43 pm : link
.
Is there a way  
Josiah31 : 11/21/2015 7:47 pm : link
I can stream Knicks games? Would love to watch!
There is an MSG ap  
Deej : 11/21/2015 7:51 pm : link
that streams Knicks but not Rangers games. Get a password from a Cablevision subscriber (Im not one).
Packed house.  
charlito : 11/21/2015 8:12 pm : link
Sarcasm.
Man can we get a shot from  
Deej : 11/21/2015 8:15 pm : link
...and Lopez with a follow
KP has such a sweet jump shot  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 8:24 pm : link
It's Garnett-like almost.
For the first time since the trade  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 8:26 pm : link
I'm actually missing JR Smith....Jason Terry looks like he could use another elbow to the face.
So that was an offensive foul for melo but not for Harrell?  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 8:31 pm : link
And Harrell's was way worse than Melos was. Unbelievable. This really isn't that difficult to call.
I wonder how many times  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 8:35 pm : link
we have to get destroyed on the boards before Fisher ends the Cold War with Kyle O'Quinn?
RE: I wonder how many times  
Ira : 11/21/2015 8:38 pm : link
In comment 12637803 bceagle05 said:
Quote:
we have to get destroyed on the boards before Fisher ends the Cold War with Kyle O'Quinn?


I agree. With Seraphin at center, there's no interior d or rebounding.
16-14  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 8:45 pm : link
may not really qualify as "Destroyed on the boards".
The Knicks  
charlito : 11/21/2015 8:47 pm : link
Must give up the most 3 point plays. Smh.
Watching a 7'3" player trying to fast break  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 8:47 pm : link
is always an adventure, lol.
The  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 8:49 pm : link
Rockets announcer just mixed up amphibious and ambidextrous.
Seriously,  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 8:50 pm : link
I'm over here cracking up. Zinger hits a lefty hook: "I didn't know he was amphibious."
Porzingis  
charlito : 11/21/2015 8:50 pm : link
For 3!!!!
I don't even know what a legal screen is anymore  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 8:53 pm : link
Apparently in today's NBA, you can stick your rear out and just blatantly move around to block a player...until the ref decides to call one at the time of their choosing.
RE: I don't even know what a legal screen is anymore  
Deej : 11/21/2015 8:55 pm : link
In comment 12637820 PhiPsi125 said:
Quote:
Apparently in today's NBA, you can stick your rear out and just blatantly move around to block a player...until the ref decides to call one at the time of their choosing.


There would be more consistency if they just let guys call their own fouls.
Or, rather , I should say that I don't know what  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 8:56 pm : link
an ILLEGAL screen is nowadays. Apparently they are all legal. Even when they move.
We're in the  
Deej : 11/21/2015 8:58 pm : link
"Save the Rockets' Season" phase of the officiating
LOL, I knew that the Knicks would get called for a moving screen  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:00 pm : link
THE ROCKETS HAVE BEEN MOVING ON THEIR SCREENS THE WHOLE DAMN GAME!!!!

Fucking NBA officiating at its finest. Again.
That last screen against Calderon  
Deej : 11/21/2015 9:01 pm : link
was just a two handed shove.
RE: That last screen against Calderon  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:04 pm : link
In comment 12637829 Deej said:
Quote:
was just a two handed shove.


Yup, I saw that too. I'm gonna lose my shit. TWICE I've seen a rocket player actually follow a knick on their screen. Not just lean into it or stick out their rear (which they've done all game) but move their feet and follow the player to screen. And then you have that two handed shove. Holy hell.
Wow RoLo  
Deej : 11/21/2015 9:05 pm : link
good on you
finally  
widmerseyebrow : 11/21/2015 9:06 pm : link
.
There you go  
Deej : 11/21/2015 9:07 pm : link
they called one. A running screen
It's so nice to have another scorer like Aflalo  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:07 pm : link
Jason Terry is trash.
Seraphin reminds me of Bubba from Forest Gump  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:10 pm : link
.
Another 1st half to be proud of  
Deej : 11/21/2015 9:11 pm : link
loving this team.
God damn  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 9:11 pm : link
I love the Zingis.
Nice work in the first half.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:12 pm : link
This team has a lot of character.
haftime stats  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 9:13 pm : link
14 points
6 of 8 and 2 for 2 from 3 point land.
2 blocks
4 Rebs
1 Assist and only 1 TO
and of course no personal fouls.
you can't stop the Porz  
Stu11 : 11/21/2015 9:14 pm : link
you can only hope to contain it...
Need Melo to heat up a bit.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:16 pm : link
.
Seth  
Big Rick in FL : 11/21/2015 9:20 pm : link
I was coming on here to say the same thing. He's the Knicks version of Odell. I just pray he keeps developing. If so he's going to be really good in 3 or 4 years. Like All NBA good. His shot is a thing of beauty, good defender & rebounder. Great length & athleticism/coordination for a guy his size. He also seems to have great basketball IQ. I would not be surprised to see people say he is a top 3-5 player in the entire NBA once he fully develops.
ANother sigm  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 9:20 pm : link
of Zingis' basketball IQ and ability to learn quickly in the league is that if you remember early in the year, he had quick fouls and had to sit in the 4th a alot. Well in his last six games he's had:

3, 2, 1, 4, 2, 1 and zero at the half today.

DUde is going to be one of the best. Let's be honest
RE: ANother sigm  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:25 pm : link
In comment 12637853 SethFromAstoria said:
Quote:
of Zingis' basketball IQ and ability to learn quickly in the league is that if you remember early in the year, he had quick fouls and had to sit in the 4th a alot. Well in his last six games he's had:

3, 2, 1, 4, 2, 1 and zero at the half today.

DUde is going to be one of the best. Let's be honest


I never really thought he had a problem with fouling. Many of the fouls in his early games were ticky tack stuff or just nonexistent altogether. That just couldn't keep up. He's always been a pretty smart player. The refs willingness to stop screwing KP is what's allowed him to play more.
I am most impressed with his defense  
robbieballs2003 : 11/21/2015 9:26 pm : link
You can see that he understands the game with his help defense.
What I loved is that KP was the only knick to chase down  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:27 pm : link
Harden on his fast break early in the game. The dude plays hard.
I am trying to remain cautiously optimistic  
Jay on the Island : 11/21/2015 9:30 pm : link
with KP but I can't fault any fans for getting excited over his potential. I don't know if anyone can honestly say that they thought he would be this good so early on.
Nice timeout by Fisher.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:33 pm : link
Sluggish start this half on the defensive end.
The bank is open on a Saturday night for the Porz!  
Stu11 : 11/21/2015 9:33 pm : link
That was sweet.
sky hook off the backboard  
robbieballs2003 : 11/21/2015 9:33 pm : link
That was beautiful.
KP is showing the full arsenal tonight.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:35 pm : link
.
His offensive repertoire is really good  
Big Rick in FL : 11/21/2015 9:37 pm : link
For a guy who most said would take a few years to develop. Once he stops thinking and just let's it fly he's going to shoot a good %. Got a good mid range game, can shoot the 3, turn arounds, bank shots, hook shots etc etc. I am only 26 so I never really saw Ewing in his prime. KP is the most exciting Knicks player I think I've ever seen.
First team foul on the Rockets  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:39 pm : link
eight minutes into the quarter. Bullshit.
Great d  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 9:43 pm : link
by Thomas on Harden there. Why the hell is Amundson playing over O'Quinn???
Why is Amundson  
Big Rick in FL : 11/21/2015 9:44 pm : link
Ever on the floor in close games? If we are blowing a team out late in the 4th I can see it. He really offers nothing
RE: His offensive repertoire is really good  
madhatter9382 : 11/21/2015 9:45 pm : link
In comment 12637883 Big Rick in FL said:
Quote:
For a guy who most said would take a few years to develop. Once he stops thinking and just let's it fly he's going to shoot a good %. Got a good mid range game, can shoot the 3, turn arounds, bank shots, hook shots etc etc. I am only 26 so I never really saw Ewing in his prime. KP is the most exciting Knicks player I think I've ever seen.



I'm loving KP, so much potential but he has a long way to go to reach ewings level, lets hope he gets there!
The Amundson/O'Quinn shit is ridiculous.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:45 pm : link
.
Phi  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 9:46 pm : link
ok. I just think he was a little unsure of what would get called and he's huge so there were some plays he needed to adjust away from. He did it really quickly.
Madhatter  
Big Rick in FL : 11/21/2015 9:50 pm : link
I'm not comparing him to Ewing at all. I'm just saying I missed Ewing in his prime. I'm too young so KP is the player with the most potential that I've ever seen.
It doesn't make sense  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 9:50 pm : link
Only thing I can think of is that maybe O'Quinn did something that the team doesn't want the public to know about and he's being punished? Fisher has shown that he'll play the entire bench, but this seems like something personal.
That was a very poor quarter for us  
robbieballs2003 : 11/21/2015 9:51 pm : link
but it says a lot that we still kept the lead.
RE: Phi  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12637899 SethFromAstoria said:
Quote:
ok. I just think he was a little unsure of what would get called and he's huge so there were some plays he needed to adjust away from. He did it really quickly.


Oh, I wasn't trying to be a contrarian. It's probably a bit of both.
Is melo, KP, and Aflalo off the floor at the same time to start  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:54 pm : link
the fourth? Does that make any sense?
Capela out with five fouls.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:55 pm : link
To the rim, boys!
What does Lou have to do to get taken out?  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 9:58 pm : link
Turnovers, missed free throws and fouls to start the fourth.
Amundson is terrible  
Big Rick in FL : 11/21/2015 9:58 pm : link
0 points, 0 rebounds, 1 assists, 2 fouls & a turnover in 8 minutes
Thomas and Amundson in the game with Melo, KP, and AA all  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 9:59 pm : link
on the bench. Any wonder why we are about to lose the lead? Good grief.
Can we please  
Natek212 : 11/21/2015 9:59 pm : link
give Amundson's minutes to O'Quinn? Seems to me like common sense, but our coach is a bit special.
He is just so bad. These are the type of things  
ADeP7 : 11/21/2015 9:59 pm : link
That make me think fisher has no buisness as a coach
Harden  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:03 pm : link
guarded by Porz twice on twice on that possession, and twice didnt even make a step towards driving on him.
Another 4th quarter with a lead  
blueblood : 11/21/2015 10:07 pm : link
lets see if the Giants.. um I mean Knicks can close it out..
Capela playing with 5 fouls  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:07 pm : link
attack him.
You're done!  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:08 pm : link
Capela fouled out. YUGE.
And he's out.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:09 pm : link
Nice work, KP. Smart player.
This team has looked much better since adding Afflalo  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:09 pm : link
into the mix
Capela was +11  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:10 pm : link
that's a big loss.
KP has a sweet shot fora guy 7'3"  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:11 pm : link
.
Porz 22-10 and 5 blocks  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:11 pm : link
amazing game from him
Porzingis  
charlito : 11/21/2015 10:11 pm : link
Is doing work!
Calderon  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:11 pm : link
never recognizes when KP is open after a pick. He got him the ball there, but a solid second late.

Porzingis has been fantastic.
I love  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:12 pm : link
Terrance Jones coming at KP because he thinks he has the advantage, and KP just shuts him down.
KP is going to be a double-double machine for his career  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:12 pm : link
.
so when do you guys  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:14 pm : link
think Zingis may take that next step and be able to make an impact on the team? Will we ever see it or is he too much of a project?
How do you let them get that O-rebound?  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:15 pm : link
That is a killer
Love  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:15 pm : link
this lineup.

Calderon-Galloway-Afflalo-Melo-KP.

.  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:15 pm : link
Let me be very, very clear the kid [Porzingis] is talented .. and in three to five years, he may very well be big-time but this is about now. Because when you look at the fact that Phil Jackson picked this individual, youre talking about a project. Phil Jackson and the New York Knicks passed up on four dudes who are NBA-ready now And why did you do this? You did this because of some dude who may or may not be ready in two years?


New York Knick fans were at the Barclays Center booing because we recognize that we have been hoodwinked, bamboozled, led astray, run amuck, and flat out deceived by Phil Jackson and the New York Knicks. That is the situation.
Porzingis STUFFS Harden  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:16 pm : link
and it leads to a Melo 3
Porzingis  
Ash_3 : 11/21/2015 10:17 pm : link
could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.
How many times are we gonna  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:17 pm : link
foul the 3 shooter?
and the 4th quarter again  
blueblood : 11/21/2015 10:19 pm : link
the Knicks nemesis
Uh oh Porz with another offensive rebound  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:20 pm : link
but jammed his thumb
THREE  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:20 pm : link
SIX LATVIA
I cant fathom how good Porzingis will be  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:20 pm : link
once he goes through puberty
And still made both FTs after jamming his thumb  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:20 pm : link
he is balling
It's like the same game every night.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:21 pm : link
Hang on for dear life here.
K-Ziddy  
Canton : 11/21/2015 10:22 pm : link
!
It's already feeling like the torch is being passed from Anthony to KP  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:22 pm : link
And sooner than later the Knicks will clearly be his team.
LOL  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:22 pm : link
24 - 14 and 6 and he's 15 years old.
RE: I cant fathom how good Porzingis will be  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:22 pm : link
In comment 12637974 Deej said:
Quote:
once he goes through puberty


LOLLL
Dominating the game  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:23 pm : link
.
3-6 Latvia stuffs Harden AGAIN  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:23 pm : link
7 blocks
I realize Melo  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:23 pm : link
is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Porzingis  
charlito : 11/21/2015 10:24 pm : link
Is doing work! !!!
RE: I realize Melo  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:25 pm : link
In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:
Quote:
is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.


Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
RE: I realize Melo  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 10:25 pm : link
In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:
Quote:
is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.


It's Melo...apparently all plays on Melo are clean plays.
RE: Porzingis  
jamesmichaelworm : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
In comment 12637969 Ash_3 said:
Quote:
could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.

I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already
Is KP better then  
xman : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
rookie Ewing?
RE: RE: I realize Melo  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:
Quote:
In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:


Quote:


is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.


I agree, but the dude came down on his back and it was pretty clear. Same thing the other night when he got smothered against Charlotte with no call.
Goaltending on Houston  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
Melo scores
Porzingis  
Canton : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
Putting the NBA on notice..
RE: RE: I realize Melo  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 10:27 pm : link
In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:
Quote:
In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:


Quote:


is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.


Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
Great  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:27 pm : link
pass by Afflalo there.
RE: RE: Porzingis  
Ash_3 : 11/21/2015 10:28 pm : link
In comment 12637988 jamesmichaelworm said:
Quote:
In comment 12637969 Ash_3 said:


Quote:


could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.


I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already


The word 'eventually' and 'could' are vitally important to the previous sentence. Only be disregarding those words could you come to the conclusion that I want to give him the keys to the city.
Excellent defense on that possession  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:28 pm : link
Forced the ball out of Harden's hands and made Ariza shoot a contested 3
I'm  
jamesmichaelworm : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
Hearing get rid of melo build around KP....and non sense like that....
RE: RE: Porzingis  
BigBlueShock : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
In comment 12637988 jamesmichaelworm said:
Quote:
In comment 12637969 Ash_3 said:


Quote:


could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.


I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already

There's got to be one in every crowd...
RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
In comment 12637993 PhiPsi125 said:
Quote:
In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:


Quote:


In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:


Quote:


is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.


LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
there's Melo's standard  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
end of game refusal to make it easy miss of a foul shot or open field goal
man porzingis is fucking good..  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?
Harden is such a schmuck.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:31 pm : link
.
RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:33 pm : link
In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?


now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.
Remember  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:33 pm : link
when last year our second scoring option was either Jose Calderon or Cole Aldrich depending on the night?
Beating Westbrook and Harden on back to back nights on the road  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:35 pm : link
That's pretty damn good. Porz is a monster!
RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:35 pm : link
In comment 12638006 SethFromAstoria said:
Quote:
In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.


It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?

Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...

How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?

another  
charlito : 11/21/2015 10:35 pm : link
Great win!
is this stat line correct?  
jgambrosio : 11/21/2015 10:36 pm : link
24-14, 7 blocks, 3 turnovers?

Jesus. Christ.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:36 pm : link
In comment 12638000 steve in ky said:
Quote:
In comment 12637993 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:


Quote:


In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:


Quote:


is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.


I don't think anyone wants him to rely on the foul call. But you can tell he's struggling with the knee on the second game of a back to back.

That being said, yes it's a foul that should have been called.
RE: Remember  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12638008 Jon in NYC said:
Quote:
when last year our second scoring option was either Jose Calderon or Cole Aldrich depending on the night?


The starting unit has really gelled...

If the bench can get squared away Knicks may have a better team than we thought
RE: RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12638010 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 12638006 SethFromAstoria said:


Quote:


In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.



It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?

Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...

How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?


Yo. It's a road win against a great Rockets team.

Save the complaints for another night.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12638000 steve in ky said:
Quote:
In comment 12637993 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:


Quote:


In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:


Quote:


is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.


"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?

Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
Love this team!  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
Much cleaner finish tonight. Good defensive possessions and clutch free throw shooting.

Porzingis: 24 pts, 14 boards, 7 blocks.

Goddamn he's gonna be great.
RE: is this stat line correct?  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12638015 jgambrosio said:
Quote:
24-14, 7 blocks, 3 turnovers?

Jesus. Christ.


Yes. Yes he is.
Knicks are 4-2 since getting Afflalo in the lineup from injury  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
With him added to this offense they are really shaping into a nice looking team
How  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
many players in the NBA could put up 24-14-7 with 2 3s?

Maybe Anthony Davis. What a skillset.
RE: RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
In comment 12638010 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 12638006 SethFromAstoria said:


Quote:


In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.



It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?

Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...

How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?


As far as O'Quinn, he had to have done something, because him not playing makes little sense.

As far as Thomas, Fisher has shown that he brings in Thomas late if the other team goes small. And again, Thomas played another great game defensively.
If you want to look at some interesting stuff  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
In comment 12638019 PhiPsi125 said:
Quote:
In comment 12638000 steve in ky said:


Quote:


In comment 12637993 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:


Quote:


In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:


Quote:


is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.



"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?

Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.


We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.
RE: If you want to look at some interesting stuff  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:40 pm : link
In comment 12638025 SethFromAstoria said:
Quote:
and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....


The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.
Calderon's been playing much better  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:41 pm : link
since the return of Afflalo. Good for him.
RE: Knicks are 4-2 since getting Afflalo in the lineup from injury  
Stu11 : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12638022 steve in ky said:
Quote:
With him added to this offense they are really shaping into a nice looking team

and his defense is solid too. Amazing what a difference it can make when you have a legit NBA 2 guard in there. This team is really making me believe they can be a playoff team. Huge tacking off these road games early on and getting W's to boot.
great win tonight though  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
Especially with melo struggling...

Definitely coming to a point where one of afflalo melo or porzingis has to be on court at all times
I mean, come on:  
Enzo : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
Quote:
Tommy Beer ‏@TommyBeer 2m2 minutes ago
Believe Porzingis is just the second player in NBA history to tally at least 24 points, 14 rebs, 7 blocks AND 2 three-pointers in one game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12638026 steve in ky said:
Quote:
In comment 12638019 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


In comment 12638000 steve in ky said:


Quote:


In comment 12637993 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:


Quote:


In comment 12637984 Aspano! said:


Quote:


is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.



"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?

Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.



We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.


You're right, he wasn't going up strong because he was pretty obviously shot. But that's why he was pumping and getting guys in the air. When they land on him it has to be called.
RE: RE: If you want to look at some interesting stuff  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12638027 Jon in NYC said:
Quote:
In comment 12638025 SethFromAstoria said:


Quote:


and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....



The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.


yea I mean mostly...maybe not as much as we think. But it is extemely weird to see Jose Calderon on the top of some offensive lists relating to efficiency and offensive impact. It's impressive.

Holy shit with Zingis tonight. THat game is absurd.
That's fine, Steve. You can disagree...I just don't understand how  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 10:43 pm : link
Nobody is relying on the refs to make the right calls but having more lift means nothing when you are getting fouled. To say that Melo would have made those shots with more lift despite getting fouled is strange. But that's fine, we can disagree and move on.
RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
Lopes1984 : 11/21/2015 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?


Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?
Kristaps Porzingis  
sphinx : 11/21/2015 10:44 pm : link
Mike Vaccaro ‏@MikeVacc 2 minutes ago
If Kristaps Porzingis were playing like this next year at this point, we'd still think he was way ahead of schedule. What a story.

how many of KP's points  
GentleGiant : 11/21/2015 10:45 pm : link
were on set plays where he was the primary target? 2? It's time to start funneling the offense through KP. It will only make everyone else better.
.  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 10:45 pm : link
This is Kristaps Porzingis and Mats Zuccarello's world and we're just living in it.
Its early yet  
Chris684 : 11/21/2015 10:46 pm : link
But this knick team is starting to remind me a lot of the 2015 Mets. Just a deep and close knit group. These guys seem to have a great bond already after just 14 games. Keep it going.
RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:47 pm : link
In comment 12638036 Lopes1984 said:
Quote:
In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?


You are 100% right...time to celebrate a good win
.  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:48 pm : link
Everyone needs a little Porzingis in their life  
Mason : 11/21/2015 10:50 pm : link
Just amazing. Just simply unexpected and amazing. The future is now.
I don't watch ESPN  
Jay on the Island : 11/21/2015 10:51 pm : link
but I am wondering what Stephen A Smith has to say now about the Knicks taking Porzingis over Winslow.
A lot of season left to go, but as of now, Phil definitely deserves  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 10:56 pm : link
some votes for Exec. of the Year.
Did you guys know  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:56 pm : link
that every Knicks fan booed KP on draft night?
Bucks got their asses kicked by the Pacers tonight.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:58 pm : link
I'd love to see the Knicks finish ahead of them after all the Greg Monroe nonsense.
RE: A lot of season left to go, but as of now, Phil definitely deserves  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:59 pm : link
In comment 12638050 Anakim said:
Quote:
some votes for Exec. of the Year.


lol. You are fuckin great.
I love that CBS Sports posted this on twitter  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:59 pm : link
...  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 11:00 pm : link
‏@MichaelVPina 17m17 minutes ago
Knicks defense with Porzingis on the floor: 4th. Knicks defense with Porzingis on the bench: 23rd.
I have no idea  
Phil in LA : 11/21/2015 11:00 pm : link
how Lance Thomas played 24 minutes and we won. Yes I do. KP.
RE: I don't watch ESPN  
blueblood : 11/21/2015 11:01 pm : link
In comment 12638047 Jay on the Island said:
Quote:
but I am wondering what Stephen A Smith has to say now about the Knicks taking Porzingis over Winslow.


here is your answer
What Steven A has to say now - ( New Window )
I don't post often,  
WahooGiant : 11/21/2015 11:01 pm : link
but KP has me excited about sports. Dude is amazing.
RE: I have no idea  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 11:03 pm : link
In comment 12638057 Phil in LA said:
Quote:
how Lance Thomas played 24 minutes and we won. Yes I do. KP.

To be fair, Thomas had a great game defensively.
Poor Sixers  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 11:04 pm : link
They blew a huge lead to Miami and lost. Haha
Also, think about this...  
Chris684 : 11/21/2015 11:05 pm : link
Phil has only just begun to form this roster.
RE: RE: A lot of season left to go, but as of now, Phil definitely deserves  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 11:05 pm : link
In comment 12638054 SethFromAstoria said:
Quote:
In comment 12638050 Anakim said:


Quote:


some votes for Exec. of the Year.



lol. You are fuckin great.


? He doesn't? He turned a shit show into a legit. playoff contender...at least as of now.
RE: Did you guys know  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 11:06 pm : link
In comment 12638051 Deej said:
Quote:
that every Knicks fan booed KP on draft night?


I hate that people keep reminding us about that. If you look at BBI, for example, a lot of people loved the Porzingis pick. Some would've taken Mudiay over him, but that doesn't mean they didn't like Porzingis.
RE: I have no idea  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/21/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12638057 Phil in LA said:
Quote:
how Lance Thomas played 24 minutes and we won. Yes I do. KP.


He was part of the reason they won. His defense on Harden especially was outstanding.
RE: .  
Del Shofner : 11/21/2015 11:12 pm : link
In comment 12638044 SethFromAstoria said:
Quote:


good post. It's an NBA line that no 20 year old has ever posted but Shaq.
RE: RE: I have no idea  
blueblood : 11/21/2015 11:13 pm : link
In comment 12638067 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
In comment 12638057 Phil in LA said:


Quote:


how Lance Thomas played 24 minutes and we won. Yes I do. KP.



He was part of the reason they won. His defense on Harden especially was outstanding.


Some of these guys are doing the little things you need to do to win.. Thomas is doing those little things..
I'm looking forward to seeing this hook shot the next ten years  
Canton : 11/21/2015 11:13 pm : link
Quote:
ESPN Now - Knicks rookie Kristaps Porzingis showed off some ambidexterity, nailing running hook shots…

The second hook shot - ( New Window )
RE: I'm looking forward to seeing this hook shot the next ten years  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 11:16 pm : link
In comment 12638070 Canton said:
Quote:


Quote:


ESPN Now - Knicks rookie Kristaps Porzingis showed off some ambidexterity, nailing running hook shots…

The second hook shot - ( New Window )


"I didn't know he was amphibious"

Da fuck?
I should of said looking forward to the second hook shot off the glass  
Canton : 11/21/2015 11:23 pm : link
for the next ten years.
RE: RE: I'm looking forward to seeing this hook shot the next ten years  
Del Shofner : 11/21/2015 11:24 pm : link
In comment 12638071 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 12638070 Canton said:


Quote:




Quote:


ESPN Now - Knicks rookie Kristaps Porzingis showed off some ambidexterity, nailing running hook shots…

The second hook shot - ( New Window )



"I didn't know he was amphibious"

Da fuck?


I didn't tune in until later so I missed those hook shots. Holy mackerel. And yes, clearly he is amphibious.
RE: RE: .  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 11:25 pm : link
In comment 12638068 Del Shofner said:
Quote:
In comment 12638044 SethFromAstoria said:


Quote:






good post. It's an NBA line that no 20 year old has ever posted but Shaq.


yep. Which seems insane. Some stats like that seem a bit contrived and silly but when you think about one player doing what he just did in his 14th game, you sort of take a moment and think about how many other big men who are great hadn't done it.
I was just remembering back to around March...  
manh george : 11/21/2015 11:27 pm : link
when the Knicks were sucking mightily, but the worry was starting that we might not get the one or two pick. Chad Ford, to his credit, started saying that this was a 5-deep draft not 4. That there was this kid out there named Porzingas who belonged in the conversation with the top 4 in everyone's consideration.

And everyone, I mean everyone, said "huh?" and "who?"

Fun.
The Porzingis nickname generator  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 11:29 pm : link
.
Link - ( New Window )
,.  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 11:30 pm : link
ESPN Stats & Info
@ESPNStatsInfo


20 Pts, 10 Reb, 7 Blk by rookies, last 20 seasons

Kristaps Porzingis
Pau Gasol
Lamar Odom
Tim Duncan (4 times)
Dean Garrett
when porzingis gets stronger  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 11:41 pm : link
And has a consistent back to babasket game he is going to be uganguardable...center will not want to come out to the 3 point line and 4s will not be able to guard him in post
Houston Paper Says it all  
JimNY56 : 11/21/2015 11:46 pm : link
Good read!
KP Towers Over Rockets - ( New Window )
I think Porzingis  
moespree : 11/21/2015 11:46 pm : link
Shows how little the scouting reports on international players should be trusted. Most basically said he'd be like a 7'3" SF whose career peak may be 10 and 5.

Ummm....how about wrong.
I admit  
chopperhatch : 11/21/2015 11:56 pm : link
I booed the shit outta this kid on draft night.

:: sprinkles kosher salt on stuffed crow::
Porzingas can't be real  
djm : 11/22/2015 12:06 am : link
.
RE: .  
batman11 : 11/22/2015 12:09 am : link
In comment 12638039 Anakim said:
Quote:
This is Kristaps Porzingis and Mats Zuccarello's world and we're just living in it.


Those two have to be in a commercial together.
Prior to the season  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2015 12:12 am : link
I was hoping we'd be 8-12 after 20 games, given the difficulty of the schedule. What an accomplishment it is to be 8-6. Haven't had this much fun watching basketball in a long time.
RE: I don't watch ESPN  
NJGiantFan84 : 11/22/2015 12:18 am : link
In comment 12638047 Jay on the Island said:
Quote:
but I am wondering what Stephen A Smith has to say now about the Knicks taking Porzingis over Winslow.


I saw a segment a few days ago where he admits he was wrong but then says "Its not enough for Jackson to draft a good player, he needs to attract superstars to the team because that is why he is paid all those millions of dollars."


RE: Porzingas can't be real  
Stu11 : 11/22/2015 12:23 am : link
In comment 12638090 djm said:
Quote:
.

I know part of me thinks this is some sick joke being played on us. We are all going to wake up and it's going to be another April fool's day Sports Illustrated Sid Finch cover story again...
RE: I admit  
SethFromAstoria : 11/22/2015 12:31 am : link
In comment 12638088 chopperhatch said:
Quote:
I booed the shit outta this kid on draft night.

:: sprinkles kosher salt on stuffed crow::


yeah but its ok. You don't get paid by the Worldwide Leader to be an "Expert analyst" and appear on tv to rant and rave like a complete ignorant maniac who knew as much about this kid as he knows about the captain of the BYU women's volleyball team. How that guy continues to live fine and keep his job after so publicly making himself and his network seem so clueless and fraudulent is beyond me. This wasn't Mel Kiper entertaining us and giving us opinions about people he at least has seen or heard about. This is a goofball who knows nothing about the college picks let alone a 19 year old kid in a Spanish league. DIsgraceful. I refuse to let it die. I will always remind anyone who will listen how much of a joke Stephen A Smith is.
It's hilarious hearing Stephen A. backpedal on this.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2015 12:31 am : link
The whole idea of him having to "interrupt his vacation" to go on SportsCenter and bash the pick on draft night was hilarious enough - as if anyone gave a shit what he thought anyway. Now this bullshit about Phil Jackson...Knicks fans were planning protests outside the Garden just before Phil was hired. Less than two years later we're all on cloud nine. What exactly has Phil done wrong again?
RE: RE: .  
B in ALB : 11/22/2015 12:31 am : link
In comment 12638091 batman11 said:
Quote:
In comment 12638039 Anakim said:


Quote:


This is Kristaps Porzingis and Mats Zuccarello's world and we're just living in it.



Those two have to be in a commercial together.


Holy shit that's brilliant.
RE: . Wally's world  
ColHowPepper : 11/22/2015 12:31 am : link
In comment 12638039 Anakim said:
Quote:
This is Kristaps Porzingis and Mats Zuccarello's world and we're just living in it.


Anakim, lol, great post, love me some Zuccs and pickled herring
.  
SethFromAstoria : 11/22/2015 12:34 am : link
Krismats Zuccazingis
Steven A Smith has gotten too much discussion in this thread already.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2015 12:35 am : link
.
I know  
NJGiantFan84 : 11/22/2015 12:36 am : link
He takes a lot of shit on here, some of it warranted, but Fisher has done a great job with the chemistry of this team. Much has ro do with the leadership of Melo and Calderon, but he deserves credit also. I also see him learning from mistakes and growing as a coach. Who knows how he will end up, but he deserves credit for the way this team is playing. I have seen teams with significant less turnover take more time to gel.

Godzingas is so much fun to watch. And Calderon playing better as there is much less pressure for him to be great. With AA, Galloway and KP, he no longer needs to be Melo's second fiddle and can just play ball. I never saw this coming with this team and I loved the KP pick. Basketball gods may have been smiling on us after all.
my bad.  
SethFromAstoria : 11/22/2015 12:40 am : link
Krismats Zuccazingis

Matsaps Porzucca

Krats Porzirello

there we go.
Fisher's definitely had a good weekend.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2015 12:41 am : link
I just wish I knew what's going on with Kyle O'Quinn. Must be some drama there. This Lou Amundson fascination is a little ridiculous. He gives you his heart and soul, no doubt, but the guy is just terrible.
First time  
Natek212 : 11/22/2015 1:12 am : link
I've truly enjoyed watching the Knicks since Linsanity.
We definitely got lucky playing OKC on the road without Durant  
Ira : 11/22/2015 5:33 am : link
and Houston without Howard. If we can pick up a w at Orlando, we could go home off a winning road trip.
.  
Ira : 11/22/2015 5:46 am : link
Kenny Ducey ‏@KennyDucey 7h7 hours ago
Only 3 times has someone 20 or younger had at least 24 pts, 14 reb & 7 blk.

Shaquille O'Neal did it twice
Kristaps Porzingis did it tonight
Stephen A Smith on KP  
Ira : 11/22/2015 6:56 am : link
.
Link - ( New Window )
Egads is 'Godzingas' getting traction as a nickname?  
Torrag : 11/22/2015 7:25 am : link
That's just terrible. Truly awful. Drago is much better...'death from above'.
DRAGOooooooooooooooo....  
Torrag : 11/22/2015 7:29 am : link
Yeah that works.
RE: We definitely got lucky playing OKC on the road without Durant  
BigBlueShock : 11/22/2015 8:09 am : link
In comment 12638130 Ira said:
Quote:
and Houston without Howard. If we can pick up a w at Orlando, we could go home off a winning road trip.

Minus those players or not, the Knicks of the last few years would have been destroyed in both those games on the road. The arrow is pointing up and that's all we should care about right now.
Great win.  
GiantsUA : 11/22/2015 8:39 am : link
Alright, Calderon played well at the end of the game last night. I was happy to see Lopez on the bench the end of the 4th.

Why does Porzingas need a nickname.

Team is playing with a lot of energy. Although Melo hit a big 3 late in the game, he did not play a major roll last night.

Go Knicks.

RE: Great win.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/22/2015 9:08 am : link
In comment 12638159 GiantsUA said:
Quote:
Alright, Calderon played well at the end of the game last night. I was happy to see Lopez on the bench the end of the 4th.

Why does Porzingas need a nickname.

Team is playing with a lot of energy. Although Melo hit a big 3 late in the game, he did not play a major roll last night.

Go Knicks.


I agree about Melo which is a huge sign that this is becoming a legit "team". Melo barely touched the ball on the offensive end late in the game and when he did he was moving the ball. Porzingis really owned that 4th quarter and it had nothing to do with his offense. His rebounding and defense were clearly the difference. He had 10 second half rebounds and Melo really got the game clinching rebound. We aren't the best defensive team but we can step it up when needed. We dont have the best defensive guards but we are learning how to play team defense. Sometimes when the opponents guards drive our bigs are helping out and it leads to an easy dumpoff for a point blank shot but more often than not we are rotating really well so teams are going to limit driving all the way to the basket. They are going to have to settle for pulling up for a midrange shot. You dont see a lot of good midrange shooters in todays game. It is either drive or step back for a three so this can really work in our favor. I am excited to see us grow as a team and if we make any trades to strengthen our back court.
Kristaps Porzingis.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2015 9:36 am : link
That is all.
.  
Deej : 11/22/2015 10:06 am : link
Quote:

Michael Pina
‏@MichaelVPina

Knicks defense with Porzingis on the floor: 4th. Knicks defense with Porzingis on the bench: 23rd.
I've been shocked by his defensive instincts.  
Ash_3 : 11/22/2015 10:12 am : link
He hasn't jumped much. He knows he doesn't have to. He's moved well as a help defender. He's got the length and mobility to be a serious rim protector. It's insane.

I thought he looked good in summer league. Now I think he can be the best player on a title contender in 2-3 years. Dear God, let him stay healthy.
We got a true ringer in Zinger  
xman : 11/22/2015 12:17 pm : link
how sweet it is
Mudiay  
Anakim : 11/22/2015 11:35 pm : link
Emmanuel Mudiay posted 17 points, two rebounds, eight assists, one steal and one block vs. the Warriors, but he shot only 6-of-21 from the field and turned the ball over three times.
Just how awful has Mudiay's shooting been? He's on pace to be the first qualifying player since 1960 to shoot worse than 34 percent from the field while taking at least 13 attempts per game. He's clinging to late-round value in 8-cat leagues, but is basically unusable in 9-cat thanks to his 4.4 turnovers per game.
Mudiay's shooting is up and down  
djm : 11/23/2015 12:47 pm : link
but Russell has been invisible. I know that has little to do with anything and I know it's so early but it kinda warms my heart? Lakers passed on KP...yeah that could make me smile for the next 20 years god willing.
RE: Mudiay's shooting is up and down  
BeerFridge : 11/23/2015 12:49 pm : link
In comment 12640362 djm said:
Quote:
but Russell has been invisible. I know that has little to do with anything and I know it's so early but it kinda warms my heart? Lakers passed on KP...yeah that could make me smile for the next 20 years god willing.


Russell's played better of late
Back to the Corner