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Deej : 11/21/2015 7:42 pm
Dwight not playing. Harden not playing defense.
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RE: RE: I realize Melo  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.


I agree, but the dude came down on his back and it was pretty clear. Same thing the other night when he got smothered against Charlotte with no call.
Goaltending on Houston  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
Melo scores
Porzingis  
Canton : 11/21/2015 10:26 pm : link
Putting the NBA on notice..
RE: RE: I realize Melo  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 10:27 pm : link
In comment 12637986 steve in ky said:
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.


Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
Great  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:27 pm : link
pass by Afflalo there.
RE: RE: Porzingis  
Ash_3 : 11/21/2015 10:28 pm : link
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could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.


I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already


The word 'eventually' and 'could' are vitally important to the previous sentence. Only be disregarding those words could you come to the conclusion that I want to give him the keys to the city.
Excellent defense on that possession  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:28 pm : link
Forced the ball out of Harden's hands and made Ariza shoot a contested 3
I'm  
jamesmichaelworm : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
Hearing get rid of melo build around KP....and non sense like that....
RE: RE: Porzingis  
BigBlueShock : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
In comment 12637988 jamesmichaelworm said:
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could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.


I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already

There's got to be one in every crowd...
RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
In comment 12637993 PhiPsi125 said:
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.


LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
there's Melo's standard  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
end of game refusal to make it easy miss of a foul shot or open field goal
man porzingis is fucking good..  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:30 pm : link
Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?
Harden is such a schmuck.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:31 pm : link
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RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:33 pm : link
In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?


now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.
Remember  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:33 pm : link
when last year our second scoring option was either Jose Calderon or Cole Aldrich depending on the night?
Beating Westbrook and Harden on back to back nights on the road  
dpinzow : 11/21/2015 10:35 pm : link
That's pretty damn good. Porz is a monster!
RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:35 pm : link
In comment 12638006 SethFromAstoria said:
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.


It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?

Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...

How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?

another  
charlito : 11/21/2015 10:35 pm : link
Great win!
is this stat line correct?  
jgambrosio : 11/21/2015 10:36 pm : link
24-14, 7 blocks, 3 turnovers?

Jesus. Christ.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:36 pm : link
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.


I don't think anyone wants him to rely on the foul call. But you can tell he's struggling with the knee on the second game of a back to back.

That being said, yes it's a foul that should have been called.
RE: Remember  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12638008 Jon in NYC said:
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when last year our second scoring option was either Jose Calderon or Cole Aldrich depending on the night?


The starting unit has really gelled...

If the bench can get squared away Knicks may have a better team than we thought
RE: RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.



It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?

Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...

How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?


Yo. It's a road win against a great Rockets team.

Save the complaints for another night.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.


"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?

Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
Love this team!  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
Much cleaner finish tonight. Good defensive possessions and clutch free throw shooting.

Porzingis: 24 pts, 14 boards, 7 blocks.

Goddamn he's gonna be great.
RE: is this stat line correct?  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12638015 jgambrosio said:
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24-14, 7 blocks, 3 turnovers?

Jesus. Christ.


Yes. Yes he is.
Knicks are 4-2 since getting Afflalo in the lineup from injury  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:37 pm : link
With him added to this offense they are really shaping into a nice looking team
How  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
many players in the NBA could put up 24-14-7 with 2 3s?

Maybe Anthony Davis. What a skillset.
RE: RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
In comment 12638010 nygiants16 said:
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.



It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?

Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...

How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?


As far as O'Quinn, he had to have done something, because him not playing makes little sense.

As far as Thomas, Fisher has shown that he brings in Thomas late if the other team goes small. And again, Thomas played another great game defensively.
If you want to look at some interesting stuff  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
steve in ky : 11/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.



"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?

Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.


We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.
RE: If you want to look at some interesting stuff  
Jon in NYC : 11/21/2015 10:40 pm : link
In comment 12638025 SethFromAstoria said:
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and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....


The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.
Calderon's been playing much better  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:41 pm : link
since the return of Afflalo. Good for him.
RE: Knicks are 4-2 since getting Afflalo in the lineup from injury  
Stu11 : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12638022 steve in ky said:
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With him added to this offense they are really shaping into a nice looking team

and his defense is solid too. Amazing what a difference it can make when you have a legit NBA 2 guard in there. This team is really making me believe they can be a playoff team. Huge tacking off these road games early on and getting W's to boot.
great win tonight though  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
Especially with melo struggling...

Definitely coming to a point where one of afflalo melo or porzingis has to be on court at all times
I mean, come on:  
Enzo : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
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Tommy Beer ‏@TommyBeer 2m2 minutes ago
Believe Porzingis is just the second player in NBA history to tally at least 24 points, 14 rebs, 7 blocks AND 2 three-pointers in one game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I realize Melo  
Aspano! : 11/21/2015 10:42 pm : link
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.



Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.



Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.



LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.

You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.



"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?

Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.



We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.


You're right, he wasn't going up strong because he was pretty obviously shot. But that's why he was pumping and getting guys in the air. When they land on him it has to be called.
RE: RE: If you want to look at some interesting stuff  
SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12638027 Jon in NYC said:
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and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....



The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.


yea I mean mostly...maybe not as much as we think. But it is extemely weird to see Jose Calderon on the top of some offensive lists relating to efficiency and offensive impact. It's impressive.

Holy shit with Zingis tonight. THat game is absurd.
That's fine, Steve. You can disagree...I just don't understand how  
PhiPsi125 : 11/21/2015 10:43 pm : link
Nobody is relying on the refs to make the right calls but having more lift means nothing when you are getting fouled. To say that Melo would have made those shots with more lift despite getting fouled is strange. But that's fine, we can disagree and move on.
RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
Lopes1984 : 11/21/2015 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12638003 nygiants16 said:
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?


Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?
Kristaps Porzingis  
sphinx : 11/21/2015 10:44 pm : link
Mike Vaccaro ‏@MikeVacc 2 minutes ago
If Kristaps Porzingis were playing like this next year at this point, we'd still think he was way ahead of schedule. What a story.

how many of KP's points  
GentleGiant : 11/21/2015 10:45 pm : link
were on set plays where he was the primary target? 2? It's time to start funneling the offense through KP. It will only make everyone else better.
.  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 10:45 pm : link
This is Kristaps Porzingis and Mats Zuccarello's world and we're just living in it.
Its early yet  
Chris684 : 11/21/2015 10:46 pm : link
But this knick team is starting to remind me a lot of the 2015 Mets. Just a deep and close knit group. These guys seem to have a great bond already after just 14 games. Keep it going.
RE: RE: man porzingis is fucking good..  
nygiants16 : 11/21/2015 10:47 pm : link
In comment 12638036 Lopes1984 said:
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?

What happened?



Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?


You are 100% right...time to celebrate a good win
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SethFromAstoria : 11/21/2015 10:48 pm : link
Everyone needs a little Porzingis in their life  
Mason : 11/21/2015 10:50 pm : link
Just amazing. Just simply unexpected and amazing. The future is now.
I don't watch ESPN  
Jay on the Island : 11/21/2015 10:51 pm : link
but I am wondering what Stephen A Smith has to say now about the Knicks taking Porzingis over Winslow.
A lot of season left to go, but as of now, Phil definitely deserves  
Anakim : 11/21/2015 10:56 pm : link
some votes for Exec. of the Year.
Did you guys know  
Deej : 11/21/2015 10:56 pm : link
that every Knicks fan booed KP on draft night?
Bucks got their asses kicked by the Pacers tonight.  
bceagle05 : 11/21/2015 10:58 pm : link
I'd love to see the Knicks finish ahead of them after all the Greg Monroe nonsense.
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