could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.
I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already
The word 'eventually' and 'could' are vitally important to the previous sentence. Only be disregarding those words could you come to the conclusion that I want to give him the keys to the city.
is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?
Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?
What happened?
now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.
It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?
Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...
How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?
As far as O'Quinn, he had to have done something, because him not playing makes little sense.
As far as Thomas, Fisher has shown that he brings in Thomas late if the other team goes small. And again, Thomas played another great game defensively.
and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....
is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?
Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.
and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....
The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.
With him added to this offense they are really shaping into a nice looking team
and his defense is solid too. Amazing what a difference it can make when you have a legit NBA 2 guard in there. This team is really making me believe they can be a playoff team. Huge tacking off these road games early on and getting W's to boot.
Tommy Beer @TommyBeer 2m2 minutes ago
Believe Porzingis is just the second player in NBA history to tally at least 24 points, 14 rebs, 7 blocks AND 2 three-pointers in one game.
is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?
Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.
You're right, he wasn't going up strong because he was pretty obviously shot. But that's why he was pumping and getting guys in the air. When they land on him it has to be called.
RE: RE: If you want to look at some interesting stuff
and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....
The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.
yea I mean mostly...maybe not as much as we think. But it is extemely weird to see Jose Calderon on the top of some offensive lists relating to efficiency and offensive impact. It's impressive.
Holy shit with Zingis tonight. THat game is absurd.
That's fine, Steve. You can disagree...I just don't understand how
Nobody is relying on the refs to make the right calls but having more lift means nothing when you are getting fouled. To say that Melo would have made those shots with more lift despite getting fouled is strange. But that's fine, we can disagree and move on.
Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?
What happened?
Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?
Mike Vaccaro @MikeVacc 2 minutes ago
If Kristaps Porzingis were playing like this next year at this point, we'd still think he was way ahead of schedule. What a story.
But this knick team is starting to remind me a lot of the 2015 Mets. Just a deep and close knit group. These guys seem to have a great bond already after just 14 games. Keep it going.
Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?
What happened?
Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
I agree, but the dude came down on his back and it was pretty clear. Same thing the other night when he got smothered against Charlotte with no call.
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
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could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.
I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already
The word 'eventually' and 'could' are vitally important to the previous sentence. Only be disregarding those words could you come to the conclusion that I want to give him the keys to the city.
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could eventually be one of the five best players in the league. He has that much two-way potential. It's insane.
I'm liking the pick
More and more but can we see it on a more consitant basis before we give him the keys to the city already
There's got to be one in every crowd...
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
What happened?
What happened?
now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?
What happened?
now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.
It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?
Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...
How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?
Jesus. Christ.
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
I don't think anyone wants him to rely on the foul call. But you can tell he's struggling with the knee on the second game of a back to back.
That being said, yes it's a foul that should have been called.
The starting unit has really gelled...
If the bench can get squared away Knicks may have a better team than we thought
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?
What happened?
now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.
It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?
Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...
How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?
Yo. It's a road win against a great Rockets team.
Save the complaints for another night.
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?
Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
Porzingis: 24 pts, 14 boards, 7 blocks.
Goddamn he's gonna be great.
Jesus. Christ.
Yes. Yes he is.
Maybe Anthony Davis. What a skillset.
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?
What happened?
now i am really curious too. Either way it's counterproductive. I like him.
It just doesn't make sense...why do amundson and Thomas get a long leash and O'Quinn gets benched?
Is it because they played on the shit team last year because if it is that is stupid...
How is it that this team has seraphim and O'Quinn in the bench yet the bigs in the 4th were amundson and Thomas?
As far as O'Quinn, he had to have done something, because him not playing makes little sense.
As far as Thomas, Fisher has shown that he brings in Thomas late if the other team goes small. And again, Thomas played another great game defensively.
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?
Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.
The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.
and his defense is solid too. Amazing what a difference it can make when you have a legit NBA 2 guard in there. This team is really making me believe they can be a playoff team. Huge tacking off these road games early on and getting W's to boot.
Definitely coming to a point where one of afflalo melo or porzingis has to be on court at all times
Believe Porzingis is just the second player in NBA history to tally at least 24 points, 14 rebs, 7 blocks AND 2 three-pointers in one game.
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is probably shot, but twice he grabbed boards under the basket and went back up and had someone come over his back with no foul called.
Yeah but he got zero height on both shots. He has to put those in. Can't leave it up to the refs.
Height has nothing to do with it. A foul is a foul is a foul.
LOL it has a lot to do with it because if he got any kind of real height he would make those shots.
You want to leave it to the refs, I prefer he puts it away when under the basket.
"Leave it up to the refs"...you mean relying on them to do their job and call a foul? Um, yeah...it's kinda what they do (at least supposed to do). So by your logic, by having more "height", Melo would have made those shots despite being fouled?
Right, because all players still make their shots after getting fouled.
We will just have to agree to disagree whether Milo is going up strong on those shots or not and the difference that makes.
You're right, he wasn't going up strong because he was pretty obviously shot. But that's why he was pumping and getting guys in the air. When they land on him it has to be called.
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and maybe scratch your head a bit, go take a look at Jose Calderon's offensive efficiency and advanced stat stuff...and compare him to the best PG available Mike Conley. You may be surprised.....
The thing is Calderon and Conley are on the exact opposite ends of the spectrum when he comes to the other end of the floor.
yea I mean mostly...maybe not as much as we think. But it is extemely weird to see Jose Calderon on the top of some offensive lists relating to efficiency and offensive impact. It's impressive.
Holy shit with Zingis tonight. THat game is absurd.
What happened?
Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?
If Kristaps Porzingis were playing like this next year at this point, we'd still think he was way ahead of schedule. What a story.
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Have we figured out why O'Quinn is all of sudden behind amundson? O'Quinn was the Knicks best big in preseason now he is not getting minutes?
What happened?
Does this have to be brought up every night? The team has won 4 straight, does it really matter if Amundson gets the 7 minutes a night as the 10th man?
You are 100% right...time to celebrate a good win