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Evaluating NFC East After Today's Action

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/22/2015 4:26 pm
So who is the primary threat to the Giants now?

Cowboys? Redskins? Eagles?
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RForlan789  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/22/2015 6:24 pm : link
I'm not sure your thread and my thread were doing the same thing. Your thread read:

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RForlan789 : 11/21/2015 6:33 pm
5-5 in the shittiest division I've ever seen. Last week we get a gift from Miami as they put down those savages (Sanchez & bradford connection) for another week but will we get lucky and have Tampa Bay go into Philadelphia and have TB give them fit?

-The Redskins are playing "the best team in the world ever" in the 2015 Carolina Panthers with "the most ultimate QB ever in the world" Cam Newton. To some people ever he is the greatest QB ever to lace up his boots just because he has a bunch of rushing touchdowns on his career.

-What about Romo and the Cowboys? Should we fear them since our blue helmet team cannot seem to escape the grasps of Matt Cassell Kirk Cousins and Mark Sanchez? The Cowboys will be put to the test this weekend against the Dolphins.

What will the shitty NFC East be looking like after week whatever this is

Next week the Giants play Washington in Washington I don't want to see Nothing other than 45-7 to the Redskins ....it's Kirk Cousins and they're a joke. Don't let the mediocre shine in 2015.


The tone and substance was a bit different. And it wasn't clear what your point really was.
Cowboys hands down...  
M.S. : 11/22/2015 6:27 pm : link

...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.
RE: Cowboys hands down...  
jcn56 : 11/22/2015 6:30 pm : link
In comment 12639089 M.S. said:
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...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.


You've been in a coma and haven't actually seen football for a few months, eh?
RE: Cowboys hands down...  
GMenLTS : 11/22/2015 6:31 pm : link
In comment 12639089 M.S. said:
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...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.


Except we're in first and they're 3-7
jcn56...  
M.S. : 11/22/2015 6:33 pm : link

...did you actually read and understand what I wrote?

I said WITH ROMO AT THE HELM.

Obviously they have stumbled badly for the 7 games he has been out.

But watch out with him back under center.
they did just enough to get by the dolphins  
GMenLTS : 11/22/2015 6:34 pm : link
they hardly looked like the class of anything.
RE: jcn56...  
jcn56 : 11/22/2015 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12639095 M.S. said:
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...did you actually read and understand what I wrote?

I said WITH ROMO AT THE HELM.

Obviously they have stumbled badly for the 7 games he has been out.

But watch out with him back under center.


Yes, sadly like the rest of your drivel I read that post too.

The entire team couldn't eke out a win the whole time he was out. They lucked into a win on the first week of the season, after Romo did everything to lose that game. And they barely squeaked out a win against a shitty Miami team in weather conditions that greatly favored them.

But yeah, keep up your delusional posting, it's a public service to those who haven't yet acknowledged the shortcomings of the American mental health system.
RE: RE: Cowboys hands down...  
SGMen : 11/22/2015 6:37 pm : link
In comment 12639092 GMenLTS said:
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In comment 12639089 M.S. said:


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...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.



Except we're in first and they're 3-7
the Cowboy will be much better with Romo and Bryant now healthy. I still think they have the most overall talent in our division.

I mean if Beckham and Manner nag went down game 1 we might be 0-10!
who gives a fuck about talent at this point?  
GMenLTS : 11/22/2015 6:40 pm : link
Why is it even a discussion? They don't get extra guaranteed wins because they're more talented with Romo. If we take care of our own business, we win the division, it's that simple.

Fuck the cowboys and fuck being scared of them.
I feel as though ...  
Mike in West Palm Beach : 11/22/2015 6:49 pm : link
Dallas will lose 2 maybe 3 more games ... but AT LEAST 2. I don't think they will go on some magical run ... but ya never know. I think they finish anywhere from 6-10 to 8-8. We shall see.
The threat is that there is no primary threat.  
jogo1 : 11/22/2015 7:07 pm : link
WIth everyone in the mix, someone is bound to string together some wins, so the margin for error is small.
It would be a major upset  
The_Boss : 11/22/2015 7:23 pm : link
If the NYG don't win this thing and they'll have no one to blame but themselves. Philly is done. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they lose in Detroit on Thursday. That's 4-7. They still have to lose up in New England (4-8) to complete a 4 game losing streak. A 9th loss is all but guaranteed vs Arizona. That's 9 losses. Dallas is 3-7. Despite what Francessa says, they can still lose Thursday to Carolina. Even if they win, they have a lock loss up in Green Bay. The best they can do is 8-8. If we win next week, I think we essentially lock up the division. Philly's not catching us. We'd have a sweep on the Redskins. And Dallas is probably going to come up a game short.
cowboys are not going 5-1 rest of way  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2015 7:27 pm : link
Giants could go 2-4 and Dallas would still have to go 4-2...

Not going to happen Dallas is done
Lots of fucking loud-mouthed jinxes on this thread....  
chopperhatch : 11/22/2015 7:32 pm : link
would you fucking guys shut the fuck up with ruling the Boys out of a miracle finish?!?!?! It's not like it hasn't been done before? What if they pulled off something bigger than what we did in '07? Would you want to listen to Jerry Jones say "Ah knoo wea kid dew it caws wea da Dallas Cahbowys" for a whole year? Or watching Romo with those beady eyes and that shit-eating grin smirk while holding the Lombardi trophy?

Enough! Shovel the dirt on them when their head is chopped off.
Put me in the camp  
Emil : 11/22/2015 7:34 pm : link
of the biggest threat to the Giants is themselves. They control their own destiny, cannot take any team lightly, and they won't. I said it last week, I think Big Blue goes on a little run to close out the season.
It'd be a disaster for the team not to win the division.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/22/2015 7:35 pm : link
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8-8 will probably win the division  
JohnVB : 11/22/2015 7:41 pm : link
Philly still has NE, AZ, and Buff. I see them losing all 3.

Dallas still has GB, CAR, BUF, and WASH twice. They should lose at least two of those.

WASH has NYG, DAL x2, BUF, and PHI. They will lost at least 3.

I think if we get to 8 wins prior to the PHI game it's locked up. Just take care of business vs WAS NYJ and MIA.
If I'm Dallas, I'm just hoping that my hyped OLine  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/22/2015 7:41 pm : link
comes through against Carolina, which bludgeoned the Redskins for 5 sacks and 4 fumbles. 12 yards rushing. Romo could be back on the shelf after one game.

Haha  
steve in ky : 11/22/2015 7:43 pm : link
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RE: jcn56...  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 11/22/2015 7:53 pm : link
In comment 12639095 M.S. said:
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...did you actually read and understand what I wrote?

I said WITH ROMO AT THE HELM.

Obviously they have stumbled badly for the 7 games he has been out.

But watch out with him back under center.



Unfortunately for them the games without him still count. They have 3 wins. They have to run the table, and you are severely overinflating Romo's impact.

If Romo is the bees knees and makes them unstoppable why hasn't he ever won shit?
I will be laughing my ass off  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 11/22/2015 7:57 pm : link
when Dallas finishes 6-10.
I don't only think the Giants will win the division  
UberAlias : 11/22/2015 8:22 pm : link
I think they they're going show down the stretch they're the best team in the division, including Dallas with Romo.

GMen are turning a corner here, IMO.
Dallas is not winning out  
AnnapolisMike : 11/22/2015 8:27 pm : link
You don't go 0-7 and then go 7-0. They will do well to get to 7-9. The Eagles had a bad loss today and you have to think there is something very wrong in philly. I think the winner of the Giants-Skins game is in the drivers seat. Washington has 4 division games left. If they beat the Giants they will be in the drivers seat with what looks like an easier schedule.

A HUGE game next weekend.
RE: 8-8 will probably win the division  
AnnapolisMike : 11/22/2015 8:32 pm : link
In comment 12639227 JohnVB said:
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I think if we get to 8 wins prior to the PHI game it's locked up. Just take care of business vs WAS NYJ and MIA.


I agree with this.

RE: RE: Cowboys hands down...  
zeroburrito : 11/22/2015 10:02 pm : link
In comment 12639090 jcn56 said:
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In comment 12639089 M.S. said:


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...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.



You've been in a coma and haven't actually seen football for a few months, eh?

you do know dallas would only have 1 loss if romo played every game right? only 1 game was not an extremely close game during that 7 game losing streak. romo puts them over the top in every single one.
Rforlan  
18E : 11/22/2015 10:21 pm : link
I've read your comments the last four weeks. Fuck you.
The Redskins  
BurlyMan : 11/22/2015 10:27 pm : link
A loss to them next Sunday puts everything very much in jeopardy.
The Giants are the biggest threat to the Giants  
Cruzin : 11/22/2015 10:43 pm : link

Have been all year. We show we can play with anybody in the league but give games away because of bonehead plays, bonehead play calling and consistently gathering more data of proof that Murphy's Law exists than any other team I've ever seen.

Dallas is dead next week after Carolina gives thanks that they're still undefeated.

Washington we can simply outplay, they don't have the intelligence or the talent to beat us.

Philly is the toughest of the three but in order for their O to work they need someone other than Bradford or Sanchez to run it. It's scary when run effectively but nothing that "Ow, I twisted my ankle" every 3 or 4 plays won't stop.

The more time Spags is here the better this defense will get. If we can get our heads screwed on straight and play a complete game, we'll be fine.
May as well post this  
SethFromAstoria : 11/22/2015 10:47 pm : link
in both these threads
Playoff Chances etc... - ( New Window )
Meanwhile  
Giants2012 : 11/22/2015 11:01 pm : link
Gettlemen's Carolina team looks strong and the Cards lead Cincy by 7 and look good too.

NY is 5-5  
fanatic II : 11/22/2015 11:40 pm : link
with a +12 turnover differential, best in the NFL. NY should be better than 5-5 with that turnover advantage.

The odds are that NY is a .500 team and will go 3-3 down the stretch.

8-8 will win the division. Who gets there is anyone's guess.
Nothing changed in the NFC East today  
Torrag : 11/22/2015 11:49 pm : link
dallas with Romo and Dez are a good team but not good enough to run the table. if we go 3-3 they aren't catching us.

philly with bradford is a mediocre team, without him they stink.

washington just plain sucks.

As long as we take care of business Week 17 we're in good shape. It might be decided before that.



RE: You're what's wrong with the picture  
montanagiant : 11/22/2015 11:55 pm : link
In comment 12638992 Bold Ruler said:
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for one thing...we just watched the three other teams in our division play games. Based upon that it gives us a clearer picture as to where things stand.

And Eric has been running the best Giants site on the web for 20 years now...you've been here what 4 weeks?

Pp
Please get rid of this fucking dupe and Ginny poo. They are obvious trolls and they are ruining this site
You missed the lynching  
Cruzin : 11/23/2015 12:18 am : link

on the Flacco out for the year thread
RE: The Redskins  
SGMen : 11/23/2015 12:27 am : link
In comment 12639496 BurlyMan said:
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A loss to them next Sunday puts everything very much in jeopardy.
totally agree. Hoping both Eagles and Dallas lose on Thursday and we beat the Skins.
That will put us firmly on n charge
Agree with those who say Redskins  
wgenesis123 : 11/23/2015 3:03 am : link
Since the race is still wide open, each week next up is the primary threat. A small winning streak will work wonders but this comes down to staying alive for the last week.
@Wash, Jets, @Miami  
AnnapolisMike : 11/23/2015 6:56 am : link
Anything less than 2 wins is trouble. This is the stretch which needs to make up for a few of those last minute losses. I'd like to see the Carolina and Minny games not be must win games.
...  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 11/23/2015 6:58 am : link
Us.

Take care of business Giants.
RE: Cowboys hands down...  
USAF NYG Fan : 11/23/2015 7:26 am : link
Quote:

...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.


I'd humbly disagree with this. I think the first game of the season showed that the Giants and Cowboys are very close.

I agree with most here in that the only threat to the Giants winning the division is the Giants. I know it's not one of the choices but it's true. It's hard to pick a team to challenge the Giants since all 4 teams have been up and down all season.

I don't think any of the NFC East looks good enough to win it all this year. However, our Giants are the only ones to show it's not how you start but how you finish. Strange that I mention that since they can't close out a game. Maybe that's all they need to fix before the end of the season. I'm hoping the bye week is just what the doctor ordered and they close out games from here on out.

One week at a time  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/23/2015 8:17 am : link
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RE: One week at a time  
Big Blue '56 : 11/23/2015 8:18 am : link
In comment 12639674 gidiefor said:
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Best you can do?
RE: Nothing changed in the NFC East today  
Curtis in VA : 11/23/2015 8:20 am : link
In comment 12639558 Torrag said:
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dallas with Romo and Dez are a good team but not good enough to run the table. if we go 3-3 they aren't catching us.

philly with bradford is a mediocre team, without him they stink.

washington just plain sucks.

As long as we take care of business Week 17 we're in good shape. It might be decided before that.




This. And others who have said the same thing. The Giants are entirely in the drivers seat. Hopefully they can treat an NFC East lead better than they have treated their leads in the 4th quarter.

I don't have high hopes.
RE: RE: One week at a time  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/23/2015 8:21 am : link
In comment 12639679 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12639674 gidiefor said:


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Best you can do?


Yeah -- this season -- the entire season seems to change week to week
I agree with Cruzin. The Giants should just worry about the Giants  
Victor in CT : 11/23/2015 8:28 am : link
Win the next game. Don't look ahead or past anybody, don't worry about what any other rival is doing.
The Giants  
NYG4246 : 11/23/2015 10:35 am : link
are the Giants biggest threat. Until they start closing out games they need to be weary of shooting themselves in the foot. If they clean it up theyll run away with the east
we should be able to beat all 3 teams in the NFC but  
Jersey55 : 11/23/2015 10:44 am : link
maybe our chances would be a lot better if we somehow find a way to finish a game in the 4th quarter .
If we win the next 3 we are a lock for the division imo  
Andy in Halifax : 11/23/2015 10:44 am : link
Dallas won't gain any ground and is likely to lose of of their games against Carolina or @ Green Bay.

Beat Washington, beat the Jets and beat Miami. The division is ours if we do.
Obviously its a week to week thing but the poster  
Jimmy Googs : 11/23/2015 11:46 am : link
above that indicated the "Giants are our own primary threat" is probably correct.

Amongst all the NFCE teams, I would imagine we are the ones that have blown the most games with a just a few minutes remaining.

All for different reasons, but it still seems to be the case...
Agree with this...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/23/2015 11:53 am : link
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If we win the next 3 we are a lock for the division imo
Andy in Halifax : 10:44 am : link : reply
Dallas won't gain any ground and is likely to lose of of their games against Carolina or @ Green Bay.

Beat Washington, beat the Jets and beat Miami. The division is ours if we do.


One thing to note is that we may be catching some of these teams at a good time. The Jets are really struggling right now and Minny is starting to show signs of slumping. If we can't beat Miami and Wash, we probably don't deserve to win the division, but depending on what happens on Thursday, even a loss to Washington will still have us controlling our destiny, I believe.
RE: Agree with this...  
cnewk : 11/23/2015 11:58 am : link
In comment 12640196 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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One thing to note is that we may be catching some of these teams at a good time. The Jets are really struggling right now and Minny is starting to show signs of slumping. If we can't beat Miami and Wash, we probably don't deserve to win the division, but depending on what happens on Thursday, even a loss to Washington will still have us controlling our destiny, I believe.


A loss to Washington means the Giants no longer control their own destiny regardless of what happens on Thursday. Washington running the table would give them the division. This game against the Redskins is absolutely huge.

I agree with you on possibly catching teams at the right time. Hopefully they take advantage of it.
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