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Evaluating NFC East After Today's Action

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/22/2015 4:26 pm
So who is the primary threat to the Giants now?

Cowboys? Redskins? Eagles?
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Don't really know until next week  
dpinzow : 11/22/2015 4:27 pm : link
We need to beat Skins...Eagles and Cows both play on Thanksgiving
sadly  
Jints in Carolina : 11/22/2015 4:27 pm : link
Dallas
Eagles  
JonC : 11/22/2015 4:27 pm : link
until the Giants prove otherwise. Still an open race.
Themselves  
beatrixkiddo : 11/22/2015 4:27 pm : link
They need to get out of their own way, and win close games.The division is ours to take or lose.
The Giants  
Alex_Webster : 11/22/2015 4:27 pm : link
Are the biggest threat to winning division
It's frikken the Romo god we have to worry about  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/22/2015 4:29 pm : link
and you all wanted Philly to beat Dallas ~ thank god they lost that game

The Giants need to do some winning!!!
The Cowboy bandwagon is gonna fill up now.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2015 4:30 pm : link
Hopefully Carolina kicks the shit out of them on Thursday. Cousins and Bradford/Sanchez don't scare me at all coming down the stretch.
primary threat are the Giants themselves  
Giants2012 : 11/22/2015 4:32 pm : link
being they don't play Dallas and control their own destiny IMO. It's the Giants to lose.
RE: Don't really know until next week  
giantgiantfan : 11/22/2015 4:32 pm : link
In comment 12638907 dpinzow said:
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We need to beat Skins...Eagles and Cows both play on Thanksgiving


Will be the most interesting Thanksgiving in a while watching those two play. Detroit can beat the Sanchized Eagles and Dallas has a damn tough matchup against Carolina who looks like the second best team in the league. I predict by Sunday night next week the Giants have a 3 game lead over Washington/Dallas and a 2 game lead over Philly.

Giants are the favorite to win the division.
RE: primary threat are the Giants themselves  
Britt in VA : 11/22/2015 4:34 pm : link
In comment 12638921 Giants2012 said:
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being they don't play Dallas and control their own destiny IMO. It's the Giants to lose.


This.
The Giants are in a great position  
jpennyva : 11/22/2015 4:37 pm : link
They just need to capitalize on it. I don't see Dallas winning out. Phil still has some tough games ahead and the Redskins are so inconsistent that no one knows what team will show up on any given day. The Giants absolutely control their own destiny. They just need to take care of business. I think if they beat the Redskins, Jets, Dolphins and Philly, they are the division winners. Hopeful for at least one win against either the Vikings or Carolina.
First the Giants then the Eagles  
JOrthman : 11/22/2015 4:39 pm : link
We control our own destiny so bottom line it's on us. However, we have at least a tie with everyone but Philly so potentially them.
A shame we lost to Dallas OpenGL day!  
SGMen : 11/22/2015 4:42 pm : link
They'd be done.

9-1 was in our grasp!
Everybody's bad  
endwerc : 11/22/2015 4:43 pm : link
It's there for the taking.

A typical Giants move at this juncture is to lay an absolute stinkbomb against the Redskins and make everything harder on themselves.
Themselves.  
Boy Cord : 11/22/2015 4:45 pm : link
Dallas will be 3-8 before they take the field. Step on DC's throats.
The Giants have a tough schedule  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/22/2015 4:46 pm : link
Other than possibly Miami there are no easy wins.
The Cowboys will prolly lose to both Carolina and Green Bay,  
BlueLou : 11/22/2015 4:47 pm : link
both on short weeks for the 'Boys, and then they will have 9 loses on their sched...

They have a tough road to .500 IMO.
RE: The Giants have a tough schedule  
BlueLou : 11/22/2015 4:48 pm : link
In comment 12638956 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Other than possibly Miami there are no easy wins.


The Skins and the Jets aren't Jack...
Eric  
RForlan789 : 11/22/2015 5:02 pm : link
i type this same exact thread and you're confused lol and then when you type it it's this "big discussion"....

What is wrong with this picture?
You're what's wrong with the picture  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 11/22/2015 5:05 pm : link
for one thing...we just watched the three other teams in our division play games. Based upon that it gives us a clearer picture as to where things stand.

And Eric has been running the best Giants site on the web for 20 years now...you've been here what 4 weeks?
RE: Eric  
TexasGmenFan : 11/22/2015 5:07 pm : link
In comment 12638987 RForlan789 said:
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i type this same exact thread and you're confused lol and then when you type it it's this "big discussion"....

What is wrong with this picture?


Eric is the founder and actually starts good discussions more often than not on a frequent basis.

On the other hand, you're a fucking turd that pollutes essentially every thread and its a mystery to most how you haven't been banned.

questions?
RE: primary threat are the Giants themselves  
SGMen : 11/22/2015 5:08 pm : link
In comment 12638921 Giants2012 said:
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being they don't play Dallas and control their own destiny IMO. It's the Giants to lose.
carolina is due a loss and it's a short week.
Beating the Phins  
natefit : 11/22/2015 5:08 pm : link
is no great shakes. We wil have a much better idea of the "renewed" Boys on TG v Carolina.
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Danny Kanell : 11/22/2015 5:11 pm : link
I'm halfway to a self back-pat

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Danny Kanell : 11/16/2015 4:19 pm : link : reply
It's very conceivable the division looks like this the next time we take the field:

Giants 5-5
Redskins 4-6
Eagles 4-7
Cowboys 3-8

And if we beat Washington, NFC East is game set match. Eagles would still have to play New England and Arizona. Dallas still goes to Green Bay. and the Skins would be done due to tiebreakers (They go to Carolina this week).
RForlan... Stop being so annoying  
Neckbone1333 : 11/22/2015 5:23 pm : link
Jeez...

With the giant showing they're mistake prone  
micky : 11/22/2015 5:42 pm : link
and have troubles closing out games, they'll likely keep dallas in this. Also, for unknown reasons, and with the eagles so bad, the giants just cannot beat the eagles lately. Until proven otherwise, the eagles will be right there.

Washington next week is going to be a tough game despite what they've done to them lately. It's the giants way to make it difficult.
We're holding the gun  
jcn56 : 11/22/2015 5:43 pm : link
just have to make sure we don't point it at our foot and we're all good.
Here's a hypothetical....  
Milton : 11/22/2015 5:45 pm : link
You get a brief glimpse into the future and all you come away with is the fact that the Giants are 7-8 going into the final weekend of the season. If that's all you know, would you expect that a win over the Eagles gives them the NFC East championship or would you expect the game to mean nothing to the Giants?
I see Dallas beating Carolina this week.....  
Simms11 : 11/22/2015 5:52 pm : link
Unfortunately, it's a short week and they're playing in Dallas. That will put Dallas like a game behind before we even take the field next weekend. Washington at home can also be very tough and they are playing better ball there too. Next weeks game has to get us off on the right foot otherwise it will be very tough sledding from here on out. Giants are their own biggest threat. If they can just learn how to close games out, we'll be ok. I think we'll see many more close games, however, the team has to close.
RE: I see Dallas beating Carolina this week.....  
TexasGmenFan : 11/22/2015 5:59 pm : link
In comment 12639058 Simms11 said:
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Unfortunately, it's a short week and they're playing in Dallas. That will put Dallas like a game behind before we even take the field next weekend. Washington at home can also be very tough and they are playing better ball there too. Next weeks game has to get us off on the right foot otherwise it will be very tough sledding from here on out. Giants are their own biggest threat. If they can just learn how to close games out, we'll be ok. I think we'll see many more close games, however, the team has to close.


totally agree with this. fast start would be crucial next week. the best case scenario is they saw they could play with the best, they have a bitter taste in their mouth stewing for 2 weeks, and they just hit the ground running.
Our remaking schedule scar s me a bitt  
SGMen : 11/22/2015 6:02 pm : link
Carolina is strong.

Washington is going to be tough. There are no easy ga,men's for me s. We need to close out teams. If we had beaten Dallas opening day we'd be in good shape. Mental error by Eli not taking a sack or calling a real n play!

Tough loss to New Orleans and the Patriots. But first night she strong and I think 9-7 wins this division.
RE: Here's a hypothetical....  
jcn56 : 11/22/2015 6:06 pm : link
In comment 12639052 Milton said:
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You get a brief glimpse into the future and all you come away with is the fact that the Giants are 7-8 going into the final weekend of the season. If that's all you know, would you expect that a win over the Eagles gives them the NFC East championship or would you expect the game to mean nothing to the Giants?


That would be for the NFC East - don't believe that the Cowboys are going to rattle off a bunch of wins, and unless the Eagles decide to do a 180 they're not going to do that either. If that scenario holds true, we slogged through a difficult schedule and are poised to put up or shut up for the division championship.
RE: Here's a hypothetical....  
shyster : 11/22/2015 6:13 pm : link
In comment 12639052 Milton said:
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You get a brief glimpse into the future and all you come away with is the fact that the Giants are 7-8 going into the final weekend of the season. If that's all you know, would you expect that a win over the Eagles gives them the NFC East championship or would you expect the game to mean nothing to the Giants?


I think there is only a small chance that winning the game would mean nothing heading into the weekend. But, at 7-8 (and not knowing if we had beaten DC in Week 12), I would assign some significant probability that the outcome of the DC-Dallas game could render our result meaningless because we would lose tiebreaker to one of those teams.
RForlan789  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/22/2015 6:24 pm : link
I'm not sure your thread and my thread were doing the same thing. Your thread read:

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RForlan789 : 11/21/2015 6:33 pm
5-5 in the shittiest division I've ever seen. Last week we get a gift from Miami as they put down those savages (Sanchez & bradford connection) for another week but will we get lucky and have Tampa Bay go into Philadelphia and have TB give them fit?

-The Redskins are playing "the best team in the world ever" in the 2015 Carolina Panthers with "the most ultimate QB ever in the world" Cam Newton. To some people ever he is the greatest QB ever to lace up his boots just because he has a bunch of rushing touchdowns on his career.

-What about Romo and the Cowboys? Should we fear them since our blue helmet team cannot seem to escape the grasps of Matt Cassell Kirk Cousins and Mark Sanchez? The Cowboys will be put to the test this weekend against the Dolphins.

What will the shitty NFC East be looking like after week whatever this is

Next week the Giants play Washington in Washington I don't want to see Nothing other than 45-7 to the Redskins ....it's Kirk Cousins and they're a joke. Don't let the mediocre shine in 2015.


The tone and substance was a bit different. And it wasn't clear what your point really was.
Cowboys hands down...  
M.S. : 11/22/2015 6:27 pm : link

...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.
RE: Cowboys hands down...  
jcn56 : 11/22/2015 6:30 pm : link
In comment 12639089 M.S. said:
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...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.


You've been in a coma and haven't actually seen football for a few months, eh?
RE: Cowboys hands down...  
GMenLTS : 11/22/2015 6:31 pm : link
In comment 12639089 M.S. said:
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...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.


Except we're in first and they're 3-7
jcn56...  
M.S. : 11/22/2015 6:33 pm : link

...did you actually read and understand what I wrote?

I said WITH ROMO AT THE HELM.

Obviously they have stumbled badly for the 7 games he has been out.

But watch out with him back under center.
they did just enough to get by the dolphins  
GMenLTS : 11/22/2015 6:34 pm : link
they hardly looked like the class of anything.
RE: jcn56...  
jcn56 : 11/22/2015 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12639095 M.S. said:
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...did you actually read and understand what I wrote?

I said WITH ROMO AT THE HELM.

Obviously they have stumbled badly for the 7 games he has been out.

But watch out with him back under center.


Yes, sadly like the rest of your drivel I read that post too.

The entire team couldn't eke out a win the whole time he was out. They lucked into a win on the first week of the season, after Romo did everything to lose that game. And they barely squeaked out a win against a shitty Miami team in weather conditions that greatly favored them.

But yeah, keep up your delusional posting, it's a public service to those who haven't yet acknowledged the shortcomings of the American mental health system.
RE: RE: Cowboys hands down...  
SGMen : 11/22/2015 6:37 pm : link
In comment 12639092 GMenLTS said:
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In comment 12639089 M.S. said:


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...with Romo at the helm they are the premiere team in the NFC East.

Not really a close second.



Except we're in first and they're 3-7
the Cowboy will be much better with Romo and Bryant now healthy. I still think they have the most overall talent in our division.

I mean if Beckham and Manner nag went down game 1 we might be 0-10!
who gives a fuck about talent at this point?  
GMenLTS : 11/22/2015 6:40 pm : link
Why is it even a discussion? They don't get extra guaranteed wins because they're more talented with Romo. If we take care of our own business, we win the division, it's that simple.

Fuck the cowboys and fuck being scared of them.
I feel as though ...  
Mike in West Palm Beach : 11/22/2015 6:49 pm : link
Dallas will lose 2 maybe 3 more games ... but AT LEAST 2. I don't think they will go on some magical run ... but ya never know. I think they finish anywhere from 6-10 to 8-8. We shall see.
The threat is that there is no primary threat.  
jogo1 : 11/22/2015 7:07 pm : link
WIth everyone in the mix, someone is bound to string together some wins, so the margin for error is small.
It would be a major upset  
The_Boss : 11/22/2015 7:23 pm : link
If the NYG don't win this thing and they'll have no one to blame but themselves. Philly is done. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they lose in Detroit on Thursday. That's 4-7. They still have to lose up in New England (4-8) to complete a 4 game losing streak. A 9th loss is all but guaranteed vs Arizona. That's 9 losses. Dallas is 3-7. Despite what Francessa says, they can still lose Thursday to Carolina. Even if they win, they have a lock loss up in Green Bay. The best they can do is 8-8. If we win next week, I think we essentially lock up the division. Philly's not catching us. We'd have a sweep on the Redskins. And Dallas is probably going to come up a game short.
cowboys are not going 5-1 rest of way  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2015 7:27 pm : link
Giants could go 2-4 and Dallas would still have to go 4-2...

Not going to happen Dallas is done
Lots of fucking loud-mouthed jinxes on this thread....  
chopperhatch : 11/22/2015 7:32 pm : link
would you fucking guys shut the fuck up with ruling the Boys out of a miracle finish?!?!?! It's not like it hasn't been done before? What if they pulled off something bigger than what we did in '07? Would you want to listen to Jerry Jones say "Ah knoo wea kid dew it caws wea da Dallas Cahbowys" for a whole year? Or watching Romo with those beady eyes and that shit-eating grin smirk while holding the Lombardi trophy?

Enough! Shovel the dirt on them when their head is chopped off.
Put me in the camp  
Emil : 11/22/2015 7:34 pm : link
of the biggest threat to the Giants is themselves. They control their own destiny, cannot take any team lightly, and they won't. I said it last week, I think Big Blue goes on a little run to close out the season.
It'd be a disaster for the team not to win the division.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/22/2015 7:35 pm : link
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8-8 will probably win the division  
JohnVB : 11/22/2015 7:41 pm : link
Philly still has NE, AZ, and Buff. I see them losing all 3.

Dallas still has GB, CAR, BUF, and WASH twice. They should lose at least two of those.

WASH has NYG, DAL x2, BUF, and PHI. They will lost at least 3.

I think if we get to 8 wins prior to the PHI game it's locked up. Just take care of business vs WAS NYJ and MIA.
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