Dallas -1.5 vs Carolina

watched the Dallas Miami game on Sunday, Dallas was lucky to get out of there with a win. A better team with a better QB would have taken advantage of some critical Cowboy mistakes. Anything can happen on Thursday, and remember Dallas gets the bonus for playing at home. I'm not so sure the Cowboys defense has an answer for what Cam Newton is doing at the moment. His mental game is starting to match his physical game.

If Giants have to worry about 3-7 team winning division Giants don t deserve to be taken seriously.

In comment 12639602 joeinpa said:

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If Giants have to worry about 3-7 team winning division Giants don t deserve to be taken seriously.

very true

in the season being favorites over an undefeated team. This is just dumb and probably has a lot to do with the name "Cowboys" and that the odds of a team going undefeated this late in the season are rare.

that went toe to toe with the Patriots that are adding some big pieces, I don't worry about anything other than being injury free from here on out. If they are, they will be a force to be reckoned with come the playoffs

than anything else? Considering their fanbase, I wouldn't be surprised to see that bunch forking over money on that game.

i am worried about Dallas
getting Romo back and getting that win was a huge boost to them

they were running very well (against a bad defense)

I think 8 - 8 wins NFC east
so until dallas has 9 loses I am going to be worried about them

division. We haven't had the Coughlin crash yet. Even in good years the Giants have had losing records the second of the season.,,, (I want to be wrong)

In comment 12639618 jcn56 said:

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than anything else? Considering their fanbase, I wouldn't be surprised to see that bunch forking over money on that game.

^^^This

The line is reflective of people being excited Romo is back, it's in Dallas, and because it is so hard to go undefeated. I don't think anyone who follows football sat down and said "I just don't see the Panther's winning this one."

In comment 12639661 bluesince56 said:

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division. We haven't had the Coughlin crash yet. Even in good years the Giants have had losing records the second of the season.,,, (I want to be wrong)

Please provide stats

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In comment 12639605 robbieballs2003 said:

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in the season being favorites over an undefeated team. This is just dumb and probably has a lot to do with the name "Cowboys" and that the odds of a team going undefeated this late in the season are rare.

Probably panthers have to go on road on short week. Winning record of Road teams on short week are not good. Dallas with Romo back and enjoy healthy, plus panthers due for a let down, all adds up. I can't see panthers winning Thursday.

In comment 12639605 robbieballs2003 said:

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in the season being favorites over an undefeated team. This is just dumb and probably has a lot to do with the name "Cowboys" and that the odds of a team going undefeated this late in the season are rare.

Probably panthers have to go on road on short week. Winning record of Road teams on short week are not good. Dallas with Romo back and enjoy healthy, plus panthers due for a let down, all adds up. I can't see panthers winning Thursday.

it's this, on thanksgiving of all days. If I was betting I'd have money on Dallas which is why I suspect the line is what it is.

Yes he has had his moments. If you took a poll more people I'd bet would put Romo in the Hall of Fame before Eli. I really don't remember a guy who has accomplished less over a career get so much adulation from the media.

With better players. Don't be surprised when we win by double digits.

And get to 8-8 they will have gone 8 - 1 with Romo pretty much validating the idea that when healthy they are best team in NFC East.

Again 3-7 If Giants lose division to them it because they couldn't t beat an mediocre 8-8 record.

Sometimes fans try to figure out how their team can win without having to beat good teams.

Giants are in control of own destiny Cowboys don t.

Projecting this great run by Romo just feeds into the narrative around this guy. The best thing that can happen to the legend that is Tony Romo is for him to lead the Cowboys Thursday and get hurt on his last possession and is out for the rest of the year. Romo would become God like if that happens

The Giants are in control of their own destiny.....

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than anything else? Considering their fanbase, I wouldn't be surprised to see that bunch forking over money on that game.

So you're saying to roll the big bucks on Carolina?

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In comment 12639618 jcn56 said: Quote: than anything else? Considering their fanbase, I wouldn't be surprised to see that bunch forking over money on that game. So you're saying to roll the big bucks on Carolina?

Eh, Carolina is reaching that point where all undefeated teams struggle, so I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them lose. That, and it's a Thursday game where they're traveling.

If this were a regular Sunday game, I'd be pretty comfortable putting some money on Carolina, and I'm not the betting type.

and I have an opportunity to show who I am to the country I'm looking to step on the Cowboys necks. How far is Dallas from Charlotte? It's not like they are flying completely across the country

And their losing streak was about more than just the QB play.

Everything is set up for them this week, I agree. But Dallas has proved NOTHING on the field this year. NOTHING.

Let them win a few games to avoid a top 5 draft pick and fizzle.

done in any research on this, but my perception is that the home teams have a definite edge against the spread on Thursday games and a slightly larger edge on Thanksgiving.

In comment 12639675 Mike from Ohio said:

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In comment 12639618 jcn56 said: Quote: than anything else? Considering their fanbase, I wouldn't be surprised to see that bunch forking over money on that game. ^^^This The line is reflective of people being excited Romo is back, it's in Dallas, and because it is so hard to go undefeated. I don't think anyone who follows football sat down and said "I just don't see the Panther's winning this one."

Spot on

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In comment 12639661 bluesince56 said: Quote: division. We haven't had the Coughlin crash yet. Even in good years the Giants have had losing records the second of the season.,,, (I want to be wrong) Please provide stats

2007. Started 6-2. Went 4-4. Last 8 games. 4-4. Super Bowl
2009. Started. 5-3. Went 8-8. Last 7 games. 3-4. No playoffs
2012. Started.6-4. Went 9-7. Last 6 games. 3-3. No playoffs

I didn't have the time to look up other years but the pattern is the same. This point has been discussed on this site many times in past years.

and even in those, we only had a losing record in one of them the back half of the year.

Just admit your point sucked and isn't valid and move along.

to support your point. Do you think we are stupid?

They beat us in a game that our quarterback and coaching staff mismanaged to the point where a guaranteed Cowboys loss was blown away.

They beat Philly in a game won by the Cowboys' defense, not Romo.

They played down to a bad Miami team and won.

In comment 12639793 bluesince56 said:

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In comment 12639677 TomTom said: Quote: In comment 12639661 bluesince56 said: Quote: division. We haven't had the Coughlin crash yet. Even in good years the Giants have had losing records the second of the season.,,, (I want to be wrong) Please provide stats 2007. Started 6-2. Went 4-4. Last 8 games. 4-4. Super Bowl 2009. Started. 5-3. Went 8-8. Last 7 games. 3-4. No playoffs 2012. Started.6-4. Went 9-7. Last 6 games. 3-3. No playoffs I didn't have the time to look up other years but the pattern is the same. This point has been discussed on this site many times in past years.

I don't think past has much to do with this year but I'd frame it this way:

2007: Started 6-2. Finished 4-4.
2008: Started 11-1. Finished 1-3.
2009: Started 5-1. Finished 3-7.
2010: Started 6-2. Finished 4-4.
2011: Started 6-2. Went 1-5 before winning last 2 .
2012: Started 6-2. Finished 3-5.

And of course I should have begun the series with 2006, which had a 6-2 start and 2-6 finish.

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And of course I should have begun the series with 2006, which had a 6-2 start and 2-6 finish.

Exactly my point.

In comment 12639619 giantfan2000 said:

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i am worried about Dallas getting Romo back and getting that win was a huge boost to them they were running very well (against a bad defense) I think 8 - 8 wins NFC east so until dallas has 9 loses I am going to be worried about them

What a loser.

Interceptions 3 or 4 fumble recovery's they are going to annihilate Dallas and we are all going to have a great TG

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to support your point. Do you think we are stupid?

No, not stupid, just not blind to facts. Check the post below on their record in the second half of seasons

which are relevant. The 2006 team has 2 guys on the team today

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The Giants are in control of their own destiny.....

That is the key. Win on Sunday; stay healthy; and hope Dallas and Philly both lose on Thursday (smile).

they deserve whatever firings they get. No excuses.

not to predict the games outcome

Dallas is a 10-loss team this year.

Maybe 11.

Romo is not young anymore and he will be plenty sore after playing a full sixty minutes--and getting hit--after spending the last eight weeks in a bubble. Given the short week, that's gotta interfere with his preparation for the Thursday morning game.

so all this line tells you is that fans who bet on the NFL tend to overvalue the Cowboys. Is there anybody here who didn't already know that?

And it's possible, given the short turn around for Carolina and home field for Dallas, the media will make things unbearable. 2 straight wins, Romo back, and defeat an undefeated team? Not only will Dallas win the division they'll win the Super Bowl too.

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If Giants have to worry about 3-7 team winning division Giants don t deserve to be taken seriously.

We are 5-5, two games ahead with 6 to go, why on Earth would they not take anyone seriously? that's just stupid

all the "Carolina is due for a letdown" talk. They didnt seem to have any problem getting up for bottom tier Redskins team after beating the Titans.

And they didnt squeak by; they crushed them.

not look behind them. They control their destiny, who cares about the Cowboys?

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And it's possible, given the short turn around for Carolina and home field for Dallas, the media will make things unbearable. 2 straight wins, Romo back, and defeat an undefeated team? Not only will Dallas win the division they'll win the Super Bowl too.

yup! It would be horrible!

make Vegas a lot of cash on this one. Sure anyone can win but the Cowboys are a flawed team in a big way. Carolina's D is one of the best and they have enough on offense vs that depleted group to do more than enough to cover 1.5

booky, I'll take that all day.

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division. We haven't had the Coughlin crash yet. Even in good years the Giants have had losing records the second of the season.,,, (I want to be wrong)

I'm calling 4 blown leads in the 4th this years coughlin crash.

In comment 12639618 jcn56 said:

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than anything else? Considering their fanbase, I wouldn't be surprised to see that bunch forking over money on that game.

Exactly

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And their losing streak was about more than just the QB play. Everything is set up for them this week, I agree. But Dallas has proved NOTHING on the field this year. NOTHING. Let them win a few games to avoid a top 5 draft pick and fizzle.

No that losing streak was all QB play dude. Come on man. Dallas is probably 7-3 instead of 3-7 if Romo doesn't go down.

In comment 12640965 giantgiantfan said:

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In comment 12639747 UberAlias said: Quote: And their losing streak was about more than just the QB play. Everything is set up for them this week, I agree. But Dallas has proved NOTHING on the field this year. NOTHING. Let them win a few games to avoid a top 5 draft pick and fizzle. No that losing streak was all QB play dude. Come on man. Dallas is probably 7-3 instead of 3-7 if Romo doesn't go down.

only 7-3? which games would they have still lost without romo outside of the patriots? i don' see one.