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Rams Under Investigation For Concussion Protocol

Danny Kanell : 11/23/2015 1:51 pm
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NFL statement on Rams' QB Case Keenum: "Promptly after the conclusion of yesterday’s game, we began a review to determine the facts of the injury to St. Louis quarterback Case Keenum and why he was not removed from the game for the necessary evaluation by a team physician or the unaffiliated neuro-trauma consultant as required by our concussion protocols. We are continuing that review today, which includes discussions with the Rams and their medical staff, the ATC spotter, the game officials, our medical advisors and the NFLPA. In the meantime, prior to this week’s games, we will reinforce with all involved the need to ensure that these injuries are properly identified and addressed in a manner consistent with our protocols."


Fisher being Fisher.



Yep, Fisher being Fisher.  
bceagle05 : 11/23/2015 1:54 pm : link
A pillar of the Competition Committee and true hero to average coaches everywhere.
I'll accept that the NFL is serious about injuries...  
Dunedin81 : 11/23/2015 1:54 pm : link
when Jeff Fisher and Gregg Williams can't find work.
Fisher is a scumbag...  
Torrag : 11/23/2015 1:54 pm : link
...mystery solved. Dock him a draft pick. $$$ isn't a deterrent
Probably why  
old man : 11/23/2015 1:55 pm : link
2 plays after he came back in, instead of dropping to the ground, dumping off or throwing the ball outofbounds, he held the ball on a good pass rush, and fumbled.
good  
GMenLTS : 11/23/2015 1:56 pm : link
I laughed at the way the game unfolded because well, fuck Fisher, but I was pretty disappointed Keenum stayed in the game.

Reminded me of Brian Westbrook and the eagles.

The rams are part of this story  
SirYesSir : 11/23/2015 1:58 pm : link
but a better question is why the officials and league reps/spotters who are both paid to look at a situation like this with an unbiased eye both failed this qb. I blame those two far more than Fisher
don't the refs now have authority to  
giants#1 : 11/23/2015 1:58 pm : link
remove a player if he looks "woozy"? Didn't that happen with DRC earlier this year?

If so, they royally effed up too (shocker!)
Buddy Ryan disciple  
rdt288 : 11/23/2015 1:59 pm : link
-Jeff Fishers teams notorious for nonsense
If Fisher doesn't make the playoffs  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/23/2015 2:02 pm : link
They should consider canning him. Good chance they split the remaining 6 and finish 7-9 with losses to the Bears, Ravens and Redskins. That's not even one 8-8 season in four years.
Is there a reason..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/23/2015 2:03 pm : link
NFL announcers and analysts treat Fisher with kid gloves?

The fact he affected decisions on rules and competition is a head-scratcher. He's been a disciple of dirty play from Day 1.
RE: Is there a reason..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2015 2:06 pm : link
In comment 12640598 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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NFL announcers and analysts treat Fisher with kid gloves?

The fact he affected decisions on rules and competition is a head-scratcher. He's been a disciple of dirty play from Day 1.


NFL people never turn on each other unless there's a colossal reason to. The same reason the owners don't oust known scumbags like Danny Snyder. Jeff Fisher will keep getting work because he's well entrenched in the good old boy's network despite 6 winning seasons in 21 years.
I sure hope they're investigating  
mfsd : 11/23/2015 2:09 pm : link
the guy's head slams against the carpet, he immediately holds his helmet with both hands, struggles to get up and wobbles around for a few seconds, nearly falling back over...and stays in the game, doesn't miss a play
When his team finishes out of the playoffs again (probably 7-9),  
Tom in NY : 11/23/2015 2:11 pm : link
will there be repercussions for Fisher?

This guy has had a run of mediocrity that is unparalleled among NFL head coaches.

I guess making one Super Bowl, and winning a handful of playoff berths can carry a guy for a long time in the league.
....and if I hear one more time how respected he is by other coaches, I may vomit.
Not sure how they could have missed this  
Danny Kanell : 11/23/2015 2:12 pm : link
This really looks bad....

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RE: The rams are part of this story  
Cam in MO : 11/23/2015 2:32 pm : link
In comment 12640578 SirYesSir said:
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but a better question is why the officials and league reps/spotters who are both paid to look at a situation like this with an unbiased eye both failed this qb. I blame those two far more than Fisher


This. The NFL needs to also look into it's own spotters who are supposed to radio down to the officials if they suspect a player has a concussion.

In this case it was pretty obvious that it was a concussion- and it isn't like it was a hit away from the ball..he was sacked. Were the spotters upstairs taking a nap?

watching the  
jtfuoco : 11/23/2015 2:43 pm : link
game live I dont think its as bad as some of the guys here are making it out to be. It was clear he took a hard hit so the team got Foles up and throwing but he seemed to quickly recover and talk to the Refs and his teammates I guess convincing them that he was good to go when in reality he was not.
He should have been sent to the sidelines  
Doomster : 11/23/2015 2:54 pm : link
by the refs, and they should have instructed the team to go through the concussion protocols...if he passed, then let him back in....
I tuned into this game for all of one play... .and it was that play  
JohnB : 11/23/2015 3:01 pm : link
And I was very surprised that Foles didn't come in for a snap or two. He should have.
I saw what had happened..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/23/2015 3:07 pm : link
but I'll say this - at that point in the game, there was a lot of stuff going on that could have caused the refs not to see it. When I saw it live, I couldn't tell if it was his head injured or he was staying down because of something else and unless a spotter was looking right there, they might not have caught it.

There was a play earlier this year in a Giants game where it looked like Beckham started to head towards the wrong sideline after a play where he was hit hard. And he stayed in too. What cameras see and what people on the field see can be tough, especially when you have 22 players out there.
never forget  
Greg from LI : 11/23/2015 3:13 pm : link
It may also be a problem that  
SwirlingEddie : 11/23/2015 3:15 pm : link
with league spotters involved, some team officials feel absolved of responsibility to monitor this as closely as they should.
Forget the refs - the NFL pays people to stand on the sideline  
jcn56 : 11/23/2015 3:18 pm : link
and do only that - watch out for potential head injuries.

Where the hell was that guy on that play?

I saw Keenum take that hit, and immediately felt sorry for him. The other thing that crossed my mind was what a complete scumbag Fisher is. OK, I'm not advocating ever putting in a concussed player, but Keenum isn't much better than the next guy on the list. It's not like you're sending a dinged up Peyton Manning out to play. Just goes to show what little regard Fisher has for player safety.
Link  
YAJ2112 : 11/23/2015 3:28 pm : link
to video
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RE: never forget  
RB^2 : 11/23/2015 3:32 pm : link
In comment 12640745 Greg from LI said:
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Gross.
In other news  
OBJ_AllDay : 11/23/2015 5:56 pm : link
Fisher is under the nfl's douchebag protocol
RE: I'll accept that the NFL is serious about injuries...  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/23/2015 6:04 pm : link
In comment 12640564 Dunedin81 said:
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when Jeff Fisher and Gregg Williams can't find work.


Good point. This seems fitting
Officials should have stepped in  
Knineteen : 11/23/2015 6:27 pm : link
Everyone saw his head hit the turf and how uncoordinated he was. No reason to force the continuation of the game when a QB is being scooped up off the ground by a lineman.
RE: never forget  
mdc1 : 11/23/2015 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12640745 Greg from LI said:
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We just need Greg Williams in there.
RE: don't the refs now have authority to  
batman11 : 11/23/2015 6:38 pm : link
In comment 12640582 giants#1 said:
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remove a player if he looks "woozy"? Didn't that happen with DRC earlier this year?

If so, they royally effed up too (shocker!)


The refs can't even determine what a catch is. How are they going to make medical evaluations?
Fisher and Williams  
DavidinBMNY : 11/23/2015 6:50 pm : link
Have to go.
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