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ChathamMark : 11/23/2015 3:59 pm
What a surprise...
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It looks like a briefcase bomb  
BlueClaw : 11/23/2015 9:59 pm : link
Kid's get pulled out of class, their parents called, suspended, whatever for anything remotely resembling a weapon. I read about some kid getting into trouble for bringing a g.i. joe to school, another kid drawing a picture of a gun, another kid chewing his food into what appeared to be a gun.
COps get called, Kids get handcuffed in school all the time for suspicion of drugs, weapons, threats, fights, being high etc.
His parents cried racism and he became a national symbol/hero of a persecuted victim of islamaphobia and went on a world tour. CLock? The little prick knew exactly what he was doing, and the little game he was playing with school officials by putting his so called great clock invention into that briefcase. Now they are suing for 15 mil. They're scumbags.
LOL  
BlueClaw : 11/23/2015 10:01 pm : link
If you see something
Jolly Blue Giant : 9:39 pm : link : reply
Say somthing
I'm wearing my briefcase  
B in ALB : 11/23/2015 10:02 pm : link
homemade clock wristwatch on my next business trip. Then sue TSA when I'm arrested after I fooled them all. Genius.
The kid was also  
sb2003 : 11/23/2015 10:03 pm : link
told by a teacher not to show it to anyone else. The teacher knew it could easily be misinterpreted. But he went on his merry way showing it off.
RE: The kid was also  
chopperhatch : 11/23/2015 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12641549 sb2003 said:
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told by a teacher not to show it to anyone else. The teacher knew it could easily be misinterpreted. But he went on his merry way showing it off.


But, but David says we're all Islamaphobes for thinking such things! David knows the difference between right and wrong!

I just didn't like that this kid, through no genius of his own,  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/23/2015 10:10 pm : link
got all these attention and scholarships to prestigious schools, and instead he chose to go to Qatar!!

Normal kids like us had to actually accomplish something to pay to go to good schools.

I'm sure those that supported him are heartbroken that they won't see his genius blossom in this country.

Skin color works both ways, I definitely don't think what happened to him was right, but I honestly can't say that racism and Islamophobia are all that I see here.
RE: RE: RE: You want to know why people hate lawyers?  
Cruzin : 11/23/2015 10:19 pm : link
In comment 12641136 batman11 said:
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In comment 12640893 giants#1 said:





In comment 12640856 Britt in VA said:













I had forgotten completely about this story until this lawsuit.



I have no idea what this kids name is or what he looks like.



His name is Clockmed.


I laughed
Every moron jumped on the bandwagon so incredibly early  
Knineteen : 11/23/2015 10:29 pm : link
They hid behind this guise that STEM and academic learning was being usurped from this poor kid who was simply trying to get an education. They gave no benefit of the doubt to the school or police; it was a clear case of bigotry towards a Muslim.

And as the months go on, it looks more and more like the kid, or his family, played everyone, exploited society and preyed on the emotions of those on social media.
RE: Boo the lawyers  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/23/2015 10:29 pm : link
In comment 12640921 Deej said:
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meanwhile in Irving, TX -- where this incident took place -- we have this from this weekend:



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About a dozen protesters — most carrying long guns, some masked and one with his mother — lined up outside an Irving mosque on Saturday. They had come from as far away as Hunt County to the green-domed complex. To “Stop the Islamization of America,” as the mother’s hand-drawn sign urged.



Just horrifying. Im picturing people standing outside my synagogue with guns and masks telling people about how they're just trying to stop the Jewification of America. It's disgusting. Link - ( New Window )


OK, so on one hand, you have 12 morons rallying in Texas.

On the other hand, you have 1.2 million lawyers destroying America.

So I guess we need to focus on the former?
RE: Every moron jumped on the bandwagon so incredibly early  
B in ALB : 11/23/2015 10:31 pm : link
In comment 12641630 Knineteen said:
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They hid behind this guise that STEM and academic learning was being usurped from this poor kid who was simply trying to get an education. They gave no benefit of the doubt to the school or police; it was a clear case of bigotry towards a Muslim.

And as the months go on, it looks more and more like the kid, or his family, played everyone, exploited society and preyed on the emotions of those on social media.


Pfffft. Whatever. Do you even know what a homemade briefcase clock looks like?
This thread is awesome  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/23/2015 10:32 pm : link
It has a bit everything being bashed.
RE: RE: Every moron jumped on the bandwagon so incredibly early  
chopperhatch : 11/23/2015 10:35 pm : link
In comment 12641636 B in ALB said:
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In comment 12641630 Knineteen said:


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They hid behind this guise that STEM and academic learning was being usurped from this poor kid who was simply trying to get an education. They gave no benefit of the doubt to the school or police; it was a clear case of bigotry towards a Muslim.

And as the months go on, it looks more and more like the kid, or his family, played everyone, exploited society and preyed on the emotions of those on social media.



Pfffft. Whatever. Do you even know what a homemade briefcase clock looks like?


I think he's agreeing that the family and little douchebag are at fault.

Fuck him and his family. I hope they get recruited by knifepoint by ISIS
Uh, yeah I know  
B in ALB : 11/23/2015 10:36 pm : link
I was being sarcastic man.
RE: RE: Boo the lawyers  
Deej : 11/23/2015 10:37 pm : link
In comment 12641631 Sarcastic Sam said:
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In comment 12640921 Deej said:


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meanwhile in Irving, TX -- where this incident took place -- we have this from this weekend:



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About a dozen protesters — most carrying long guns, some masked and one with his mother — lined up outside an Irving mosque on Saturday. They had come from as far away as Hunt County to the green-domed complex. To “Stop the Islamization of America,” as the mother’s hand-drawn sign urged.



Just horrifying. Im picturing people standing outside my synagogue with guns and masks telling people about how they're just trying to stop the Jewification of America. It's disgusting. Link - ( New Window )



OK, so on one hand, you have 12 morons rallying in Texas.

On the other hand, you have 1.2 million lawyers destroying America.

So I guess we need to focus on the former?


Good one.
RE: Uh, yeah I know  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/23/2015 10:38 pm : link
In comment 12641645 B in ALB said:
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I was being sarcastic man.


Sarcasm sucks.
RE: RE: RE: Boo the lawyers  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/23/2015 10:38 pm : link
In comment 12641647 Deej said:
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In comment 12641631 Sarcastic Sam said:


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In comment 12640921 Deej said:


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meanwhile in Irving, TX -- where this incident took place -- we have this from this weekend:



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About a dozen protesters — most carrying long guns, some masked and one with his mother — lined up outside an Irving mosque on Saturday. They had come from as far away as Hunt County to the green-domed complex. To “Stop the Islamization of America,” as the mother’s hand-drawn sign urged.



Just horrifying. Im picturing people standing outside my synagogue with guns and masks telling people about how they're just trying to stop the Jewification of America. It's disgusting. Link - ( New Window )



OK, so on one hand, you have 12 morons rallying in Texas.

On the other hand, you have 1.2 million lawyers destroying America.

So I guess we need to focus on the former?



Good one.


Brilliant, insightful response.
RE: This thread is awesome  
chopperhatch : 11/23/2015 10:39 pm : link
In comment 12641638 AP in Halfmoon said:
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It has a bit everything being bashed.


If you actually READ through the whole thread it has the majority obliterating this putz while the original defenders of this pencil neck have been more like :



(I regret that I had to use to such a cool movie scene to illustrate what the dum dums have been suggesting to this point).
RE: RE: RE: RE: Boo the lawyers  
Deej : 11/23/2015 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12641650 Sarcastic Sam said:
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In comment 12641647 Deej said:


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In comment 12641631 Sarcastic Sam said:


Quote:


In comment 12640921 Deej said:


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meanwhile in Irving, TX -- where this incident took place -- we have this from this weekend:



Quote:


About a dozen protesters — most carrying long guns, some masked and one with his mother — lined up outside an Irving mosque on Saturday. They had come from as far away as Hunt County to the green-domed complex. To “Stop the Islamization of America,” as the mother’s hand-drawn sign urged.



Just horrifying. Im picturing people standing outside my synagogue with guns and masks telling people about how they're just trying to stop the Jewification of America. It's disgusting. Link - ( New Window )



OK, so on one hand, you have 12 morons rallying in Texas.

On the other hand, you have 1.2 million lawyers destroying America.

So I guess we need to focus on the former?



Good one.



Brilliant, insightful response.


Good one.
The point is  
B in ALB : 11/23/2015 10:42 pm : link
Who makes a fucking briefcase clock? Come on. Make your little reconstructed clock. Fine. Great job. Really interesting. Why stick it in a briefcase? Ran out of shoeboxes? Or you're just trying to be cute?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Boo the lawyers  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/23/2015 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12641654 Deej said:
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In comment 12641650 Sarcastic Sam said:


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In comment 12641647 Deej said:


Quote:


In comment 12641631 Sarcastic Sam said:


Quote:


In comment 12640921 Deej said:


Quote:


meanwhile in Irving, TX -- where this incident took place -- we have this from this weekend:



Quote:


About a dozen protesters — most carrying long guns, some masked and one with his mother — lined up outside an Irving mosque on Saturday. They had come from as far away as Hunt County to the green-domed complex. To “Stop the Islamization of America,” as the mother’s hand-drawn sign urged.



Just horrifying. Im picturing people standing outside my synagogue with guns and masks telling people about how they're just trying to stop the Jewification of America. It's disgusting. Link - ( New Window )



OK, so on one hand, you have 12 morons rallying in Texas.

On the other hand, you have 1.2 million lawyers destroying America.

So I guess we need to focus on the former?



Good one.



Brilliant, insightful response.



Good one.


I know you are, but what am I?

I mean... Thanks!
RE: The point is  
Sarcastic Sam : 11/23/2015 10:44 pm : link
In comment 12641656 B in ALB said:
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Who makes a fucking briefcase clock? Come on. Make your little reconstructed clock. Fine. Great job. Really interesting. Why stick it in a briefcase? Ran out of shoeboxes? Or you're just trying to be cute?


I think it's an abstract art piece... like a treatise on the modernity of technology obsoleting social norms.

I mean, who the fuck uses a clock anymore? Or a briefcase? Or TTL logic?
I hope the city/ school district  
BlueClaw : 11/23/2015 10:44 pm : link
tell this family to drop dead.
Let them have to drag their asses back to the U.S. to have the kid deposed.
Get all the facts out in this incident.

I'm still not hearing all the chirp from the irate  
chopperhatch : 11/23/2015 11:14 pm : link
assholes who castigated me and others a couple months ago when we called the family out for utilizing the incident for profit.

David's best response was: I'm too smart to dignify that with a response. (translated:I ain't got shit)
bomb or not  
madgiantscow009 : 11/24/2015 12:43 am : link
there was probable cause for an arrest for a bomb hoax. The kid was handcuffed per policy and brought in to the station.

the police decided not to prosecute and he was released. This should be a no story.

On a personal note, I believe the kid knew it could be mistaken for a bomb and the cops should have pursued it.

On the comments that it doesn't look like a bomb, well it doesn't look like a clock either as a container with loose wires,
RE: No, I'm not going to waste too much of my time  
madgiantscow009 : 11/24/2015 12:51 am : link
In comment 12641465 David in LA said:
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with someone who thinks that anything inside a metallic briefcase with a digital display is a bomb. The cops clearly didn't think it was a credible threat, or they would have called in a bomb squad.


maybe one of the cops was on the bomb squad or had training. Most police departments don't have a separate bomb squad and most have part time swat teams. So your average patrol officer could be on one or both. If not, they could have texted a picture to a bomb squad member which is the first thing they are told to do.

Maybe the cops didn't think it was a credible threat, but you assume a lot and often.
My implication is the cops knew it wasn't a threat  
David in LA : 11/24/2015 12:57 am : link
and I'm the one assuming?
RE: My implication is the cops knew it wasn't a threat  
madgiantscow009 : 11/24/2015 1:05 am : link
In comment 12641741 David in LA said:
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and I'm the one assuming?


yes.
Do you buy/sell a lot of  
madgiantscow009 : 11/24/2015 1:07 am : link
suitcase/container clocks in your line of work?
I see this all the time in schools....  
Britt in VA : 11/24/2015 7:07 am : link
Lookalike weapons, lookalike drugs, bomb threats, pulled fire alarms.... Just another day in the office. Kids arrested for stupid shit like this all the time to little or no fanfare.

My opinion is that this kid, probably with some help from his dad, took advantage of the current climate of America in which racism lurks around every corner, real or perceived (Ferguson), and played the American media/public (including the President) for fools.

They'll be laughing all the way to the bank. In Qatar.
The fact that our president  
B in ALB : 11/24/2015 7:15 am : link
met this kid then we see him hanging out with criminals like Bashir tells me all I need to know about this family. And frankly, pretty embarrassing for Obama, no?
Not pretty embarrassing for Obama  
Deej : 11/24/2015 7:23 am : link
unless you have an incredibly small view of the presidency.
Just a few of the suspicious things involved with this:  
Britt in VA : 11/24/2015 7:27 am : link
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• There was no "school project" or science assignment to justify Mohamed bringing the device to school .
• Just three weeks into his freshman year, Mohamed was no "science whiz well-known by high school teachers for tinkering."
• The "clock" wasn't made from scratch but just the guts of a mass-manufactured digital clock, complete with AC cord and 9-volt backup battery connection.
• With its exposed wires and lack of a face, the gutted clock looked like a bomb. It also sounded like a bomb: The alarm was set to go off during English class; the beeping startled the teacher who called police.
• When police questioned Mohamed, he wasn't cooperative and was described as "disrespectful."
• The police chief said the device was "intended to create a level of alarm; in other words, a hoax bomb."
• Mohamed's Sudanese father — a Muslim political activist involved in previous Muslim grievances — reportedly asked the cops to re-handcuff his son — so his daughter could take the photo that went viral.
• Mohamed tweeted: "Thank you fellow supporters. We can ban together to stop this racial inequality."
• The family's spokesperson is the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a terror-tied group that in 2006 sued US Airways for kicking several Muslim activists off a flight for behaving suspiciously and rattling passengers — a stunt that looks eerily similar.


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This was the goal from the beginning.  
Curtis in VA : 11/24/2015 7:37 am : link
And now they got what they wanted. His Dad is an asshole.

Good job, bleeding hearts of the media and the rest of America.
On that list  
Deej : 11/24/2015 7:42 am : link
1-3 are probably fact. Most of the rest is either conclusion or pretty irrelevant to whether he should have been arrested. For example, did the police know AM was going to tweet something? Did police make a CAIR connection (and what does terror-tied mean?)? Of course not. Did this thing look like a bomb? I think no -- frankly not at all. It "sounded" like a bomb? On the conclusion side, you have the police chief speaking to AM's intent -- he may well be right but unless AM said something relevant, it's really just the chief's evaluation of the same facts we all have.

Some of this stuff is relevant. If the family was aiming to make a mountain out of a relative molehill, that should undercut a claim of damages. E.g. if the father asked that the kid be handcuffed for a photo (I hadnt heard that before but I dont follow this closely), then are the embarrassment damages self-inflicted? Probably.
RE: On that list  
Curtis in VA : 11/24/2015 7:43 am : link
In comment 12641799 Deej said:
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1-3 are probably fact. Most of the rest is either conclusion or pretty irrelevant to whether he should have been arrested. For example, did the police know AM was going to tweet something? Did police make a CAIR connection (and what does terror-tied mean?)? Of course not. Did this thing look like a bomb? I think no -- frankly not at all. It "sounded" like a bomb? On the conclusion side, you have the police chief speaking to AM's intent -- he may well be right but unless AM said something relevant, it's really just the chief's evaluation of the same facts we all have.

Some of this stuff is relevant. If the family was aiming to make a mountain out of a relative molehill, that should undercut a claim of damages. E.g. if the father asked that the kid be handcuffed for a photo (I hadnt heard that before but I dont follow this closely), then are the embarrassment damages self-inflicted? Probably.


You suck!! =)
What is a "bleeding heart"?  
Headhunter : 11/24/2015 7:57 am : link
Sounds life threatening condition and a trip to the ER at the very least.
RE: RE: On that list  
Deej : 11/24/2015 8:02 am : link
In comment 12641800 Curtis in VA said:
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You suck!! =)


Really needs its own thread. To complicated to address here.
RE: On that list  
Britt in VA : 11/24/2015 8:02 am : link
In comment 12641799 Deej said:
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1-3 are probably fact. Most of the rest is either conclusion or pretty irrelevant to whether he should have been arrested. For example, did the police know AM was going to tweet something? Did police make a CAIR connection (and what does terror-tied mean?)? Of course not. Did this thing look like a bomb? I think no -- frankly not at all. It "sounded" like a bomb? On the conclusion side, you have the police chief speaking to AM's intent -- he may well be right but unless AM said something relevant, it's really just the chief's evaluation of the same facts we all have.

Some of this stuff is relevant. If the family was aiming to make a mountain out of a relative molehill, that should undercut a claim of damages. E.g. if the father asked that the kid be handcuffed for a photo (I hadnt heard that before but I dont follow this closely), then are the embarrassment damages self-inflicted? Probably.


And how convenient is it, that the public will never know the school's or police side of the story due to rocksolid privacy laws for minors. The school system begged Muhamed's family to let them release their side of the story, but they refused to sign off on it. So when this gets thrown out in court, it will be because they have access to that side of the story. But the public never will. All the public knows is what Muhamed's family wants them to know, through their attorneys.
Am I missing the significance of this story?  
Headhunter : 11/24/2015 8:09 am : link
why should I care? Everything going on in the world and this gets this much attention?
Headhunter....  
Jolly Blue Giant : 11/24/2015 8:13 am : link
That IS the point. You should care that it's getting this much attention. That's the problem.
clock  
EricJ : 11/24/2015 8:13 am : link
RE: Am I missing the significance of this story?  
B in ALB : 11/24/2015 10:46 am : link
In comment 12641830 Headhunter said:
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why should I care? Everything going on in the world and this gets this much attention?


No, no. Feel free to stick to your riveting contributions on Joe Beningo, Computer Help, and James Jones. Much more in need of attention in this world.
It's a shame  
Big Al : 11/24/2015 10:57 am : link
we are losing out best and brightest youth to emigration due to our racist actions.
Well  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/24/2015 11:05 am : link
I don't know about you guys but I wouldn't want to be a Muslim living in Irving Tx
you don't want to be Muslim at all  
Jolly Blue Giant : 11/24/2015 11:13 am : link
Otherwise you would be.
I don't  
Big Al : 11/24/2015 11:16 am : link
want to live in Irving, TX.
RE: This was the goal from the beginning.  
RC02XX : 11/24/2015 11:20 am : link
In comment 12641795 Curtis in VA said:
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And now they got what they wanted. His Dad is an asshole.

Good job, bleeding hearts of the media and the rest of America.


This reminds me of a Final Jeopardy question:

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The flower pictured here is called this, also a disparaging term for people on the political left.

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Big Al  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/24/2015 11:22 am : link
I lived there for a year in the early 80s. I was about 2 miles from Texas Stadium. Irving is a dry city. So it's not only a shit hole, you couldn't even buy a beer.
RE: Not pretty embarrassing for Obama  
giant24 : 11/24/2015 11:49 am : link
In comment 12641784 Deej said:
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unless you have an incredibly small view of the presidency.


Obama as usual jumped into this situation without the facts like he did with the professor "police acted stupidly", Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown etc and he should have been embarrassed especially after this kid is embracing a dictator wanted for genocide in Darfur a day or so before being celebrated at the White House. Obama has a bad history of backing the criminals over the police.
I dont want to get into an Obama fight  
Deej : 11/24/2015 11:59 am : link
I think his comments were right in some of those circumstances. They're wrong if you just remember a caricature of Obama took the side of criminals against the police and ignore the substance of what he said in full. His attempt to communicate very nuanced points during those incidents did not end up doing much good, mostly because as a country we dont much enjoy nuanced points.
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