To anyone who doubts Reese and Coughlin look at their Picks

as being non slam dunks...
More like an odd bank shot

otherwise they were very good DBs

When is this shithead finally going to be banned??

In comment 12641118 rut17 said:

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When is this shithead finally going to be banned??

yes real classy talk there

whydontyougorootfortheJets

I'm starting to think that's exactly what you're going for.

Well done.

In comment 12641119 EVERY4YEARS said:

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In comment 12641118 rut17 said: Quote: When is this shithead finally going to be banned?? yes real classy talk there whydontyougorootfortheJets

You're a troll who has been polluting this board with threads every time an idiotic thought passes through your pea brain.

I thought Wilson had breakaway speed, and was what we needed. Bradshaw had his foif problems and a transition to a runner of Wilson's abilities seemed like a good idea. Unfortunately the kid had an injury that ended his career before it could really begin.

Imagine Wilson in this offense. He would have been a heck of a weapon.

they make them blindfolded and avoid eye contact with them during their NY Giants tenures.

so strictly looking at pick one is nonsense as we expect pick 1 to perform else they are just out of the league as a bust/

What you really need to look at is all of the selections made by TC and Reese and an associated status next to each pick:

1) long term starter for team ?
2) no longer on the giants and with another team
3) out of the league
4) out of the league due to serious injury
5) retired

had a lot of knees.

In comment 12641151 Mason said:

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had a lot of knees.

I laughed.

Needs to be a thread.

Maybe focus on one good one a day

As good as Reese's top picks have been the organization has been quite the opposite after Round 1 for a long while

on the flip side

Young bombed on many 1st rounders yet hit on many after round 1.

I think I started one thread ever.

You've been here (in this incarnation) for three weeks and you've started around 500 threads.

We don't need every fucking dumbass thought of yours catalogued on here. Maybe shut the hell up for a while?

1) The first thing is with Wilson and Chad Jones crazy luck related to players and injuries. That is what it is.

2) Reese for a while was taking guys in RD # 2 that were RD # 1 talents with injury concerns. See Steve Smith and Terrell Thomas from USC. They were both good players, but there longevity came into question. That was a questionable strategy but it led to 2 Super Bowls. I don't think you can really fault it.

3) The real issue I have is the handling of picks in rds 3-4. Up until recently it felt like another of repeat picks of high ceiling low floor players. So for example, Brandon Mosley and James Brewer they fit that mode. I think if you look at rds 3 and 4 during the super bowl run you'll see almost every one of them is out of football. Bromley may be the exception to that rule. Owa has a chance but he is really part of 2) above. There was one year where the Giants took a huge gamble. Marvin Austin in RD 2. Another high ceiling low floor player. I was screaming for the Giants to draft Austin. Based on the talent at that time it was the right pick. Sometimes you just lose. NYG problem is they took to many of those players in a cluster of years and none of them developed for them.

Think before you post every thought that comes into your mind. The only thing worse than a troll is a homer who thinks their team is without fault.

But I think some of you are jumping on him for no reason on this one. It at least is a football thread that can be a discussion.

Reese not so much, but I will never be satisfied. Coughlin has brought the Giants championships, but not consistent greatness, too many non-competitive seasons mixed in there. This season they are overachieving, even with the first 2 blown games. I can't even fathom this team at 7-3, but that is really where they should be. If the Giants can split their final 6 games and finish 8-8 I will be impressed. Reason why I have low expectations is because of the horrible defense and lack of decent depth on the O line. No Cruz and no Beatty and a one handed JPP are huge reasons why I expected this team to be 6-10. This team not good enough to throw 2 wins away, but I am glad they are competitive. It was more than I expected.
Get rid of em all, keep em all, Im fine with either.

In comment 12641161 Giants2012 said:

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As good as Reese's top picks have been the organization has been quite the opposite after Round 1 for a long while on the flip side Young bombed on many 1st rounders yet hit on many after round 1.

Does that make young lucky or good

my point was look back through the last 50 years
most of the picks have been horrific

Reese looks like a genius by comparison

I met George at a Giants luncheon, very nice humble person
God Rest His Soul

several completely inane threads every fucking day?

Go the fuck away.

then dont read them.

as usual, your threads and posts have massive holes. With a draft now seven Rounds there is no point in calling others doubters as Reese and the Giants organization have missed in picks after Round 1 which is the main reason the roster is so weak.

lets compare

without going yet I think I will see a big contrast

If so I will send this post to Fat Mike to make his day

1997 Mike if you are on here

i agree with you that reese's first round picks have been good overall and even second round but after that they suck some 3rd round picks are supposed to make it as well as 4 through 7

they have done well in undrafted players also

but with nothing past second round i think his drafts suck

In comment 12641254 EVERY4YEARS said:

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lets compare without going yet I think I will see a big contrast If so I will send this post to Fat Mike to make his day 1997 Mike if you are on here

You seem a lot like the typical WFAN caller.

Starting threads EVERY30MINUTES. Please go away.

BBI's worst poster strikes again.

...and his staff and scouts are responsible for the later picks. Reese has said that he follows Ernie's management model.

Reese is of course ultimately responsible, but based on the above the crappy 2nd round and later picks were probably his staff's (i.e. Ross's) recommendations/selections.

In comment 12641262 AP in Halfmoon said:

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You seem a lot like the typical WFAN caller.

yeah, he just blows past.others responses and has a narrow, self absorbed view of the world. Bizarre

There are threads on here every day about such stupid shit this is pure giants discussion.

Consider the following:

There are no BBI rules about the number of threads that one person can start per day.

There is nobody forcing you to click any thread.

If you prefer to engage in the ethics of telling a friend his wife is banging someone else there are threads for that.

This is a valid discussion of the Giants on a Giants message board.

I just ignore them
actually feel sorry for them
I do make a lot of threads but usually 993 people jump right on them
why do they read them??????

The most quirky poster of all time was KERRYISTHEMAN
he was a riot. You guys think im a crazy fan......that guy was off
the charts

They were picking all HOF players until Jerry Jones took over
then it sll went to crsp
Cowboys 1st round picks - ( New Window )

at least it's a football topic or anything else.

All his threads have been football topics. Now we're talking at least 5 of them every day, and I'm probably being kind with that guesstimate.

He's brought the attacking on himself. He starts a thread for damn near every thought that pops into his head. Many topics of which, likely already have threads with similar content already being discussed. It just pollutes an already severely polluted message board with more inane thread topics.

Normally I would appreciate the positive nature of his threads as I'm typically optimistic about our team but plain and simple, every thought he has about the team should not need to be a thread.

He's a perfect example of why this board has plummeted with regards to the quality of football discussion. So by all means, lets keep encouraging the behavior.

In comment 12641317 EVERY4YEARS said:

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I just ignore them actually feel sorry for them I do make a lot of threads but usually 993 people jump right on them why do they read them?????? The most quirky poster of all time was KERRYISTHEMAN he was a riot. You guys think im a crazy fan......that guy was off the charts

So you are admitting you are a dupe. That's really going to help your case here.

In comment 12641339 rut17 said:

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In comment 12641317 EVERY4YEARS said: Quote: I just ignore them actually feel sorry for them I do make a lot of threads but usually 993 people jump right on them why do they read them?????? The most quirky poster of all time was KERRYISTHEMAN he was a riot. You guys think im a crazy fan......that guy was off the charts So you are admitting you are a dupe. That's really going to help your case here.

Sorry Bud, I don't know you
go haunt another poster please

c'mon man.

You have to hit your 3rd - 5th rounders, which Reese didn't do for a few years. It's why our roster was/is so devoid of talent

?

In comment 12641327 EVERY4YEARS said:

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They were picking all HOF players until Jerry Jones took over then it sll went to crsp Cowboys 1st round picks - ( New Window )

Now it's obvious you're just a troll as Martin, Smith, Bryant, Ware, Frederick, E. Smith, Aikman were all 1st Rounders.

Welcome to ignore and enjoy WFAN

In comment 12641368 Giants2012 said:

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In comment 12641327 EVERY4YEARS said: Quote: They were picking all HOF players until Jerry Jones took over then it sll went to crsp Cowboys 1st round picks - ( New Window ) Now it's obvious you're just a troll as Martin, Smith, Bryant, Ware, Frederick, E. Smith, Aikman were all 1st Rounders. Welcome to ignore and enjoy WFAN

ehhhhhhhh those were all Jimmy's picks
When Johnson left it all went to a horror show
and thus we have 1997

The Cowboys are BUMS

drafted prior to 1997? WFAN's callers are brilliant

imwatchingfootball

should try learning football rather than post like a moron

by Jerruh.

but I think Jimmy had the pole position in making picks his first couple of years because he just came from the college ranks and was familiar with the talent. his hit rate might have gone down over time.

That's the second thread I've read from the OP and both are reasonable propositions. What the heck he's done that should provoke such attacks is strange.

I think that hitting on all of your no. 1's is very important. And certainly when you look at Accorsi there were a lot of misses. Significant and important misses.
So you want to jump JR on his third rounders. Well third rounders are not productive generally speaking. And his failure there is not as important. Certainly, we should have been able to find an offensive linemen among all those wasted picks.
His free agency hires have been outstanding and his free agency releases very good too. God I remember the bellows here when he signed Canty and Rolle, yet they helped drive us to a superbowl that year against statistically the toughest road ever.
Sure we've had some lean years. But that's about false and unrealistic expectations. Free agency, the cap, the savagely increasing and totally capricious influence of injuries, the evolution of the sport that make technological advantages unattainable (and it's technological advantages that drove the dynasties of Landry, Lombardi, Brown and Welsch) the rookie cap all these mitigate against the continued run at the top.
A few years ago...Kapernack, Wilson, Luck, And RgIII all make the playoffs as ROOKIES. It used to be unheard of to start four rookies in a season and unimaginable that even one would make the playoffs. They sign contracts, the roster is diminished as a consequence and they come back to earth.
Brees, Rogers, Flacco, Peyton are all superb qb's, playing for superb GM"s and organizations. They've one one each. Yet you find our GM and organization deficient.
The bottom line is only NE is better than us and only Pitts is close (and Pitts is and has had their trouble s too and their playoff runs and superbowls didn't compare.
NE is abberant and the whys of that a subject of another thread.
Leaving NE out we are the best franchise of the decade. Putting NE in we are the second best franchise of teh last decade or over Reese's tenure.
But to defend Reese brings out attacks and I'd say it's his unreasonable attackers who should pause and look at themselves.

rather than just ramble on.

Now you're preaching how Kapernack, Wilson, Luck, And RgIII all signed new contracts which diminished their rosters? Really? When did Luck and RGIII sign new contracts?

Don't open them. No one here but Eric had the right to control the content here or decide what is relevant or trivial.

Frankly it's all trivial. It's a chat board, and your desire to control the content makes you a whinny bitch on a dufus' power trip. No?

Yes, he's excitable and posts a lot and sometimes continues a thought from one thread to a new thread unnecessarily, but he's contributing to the discussion. There are, by and large, far worse posters.

I'm a big optimist about this years team

Maybe it takes 4 years to re-tool after a championship

The focal point is Eli

I'm fairly certain we will win SB 50....its our destiny
Vegas sees us climbing too

and I truly believe now we will beat an undefeated Patriots team to do it again

A lot of guys on here love to be pessimists, I obviously rub them the wrong way with my rah rah attitude
Whatever

and I still think your threads suck.

Thus, maybe take a hint, and try your best to not start a thread every time a new thought about the team pops into your head.

That's been the biggest reason for the pile on.

Sorry you can't see it.

What if in 1995 Mara decided to fire the best Head Coach/GM
in the league, make himself GM and hire his college buddy to coach the team.

I doubt we would have won 2 Lombardis and made 3 SB appearances in the 2000's

LOL The only thing that made the Cowboys relevant was his smartly hiring Parcells (which was an ill fated marriage)
If Bill had stayed there we would have been in big trouble

In comment 12642156 GMenLTS said:

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and I still think your threads suck. Thus, maybe take a hint, and try your best to not start a thread every time a new thought about the team pops into your head. That's been the biggest reason for the pile on. Sorry you can't see it.

You are right about that
Happy Thanksgiving Go Detroit Go Carolina :-)

In comment 12642156 GMenLTS said:

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and I still think your threads suck. Thus, maybe take a hint, and try your best to not start a thread every time a new thought about the team pops into your head. That's been the biggest reason for the pile on. Sorry you can't see it.

I might say your threads suck too but I cannot recall any
what are your thought on our chances this year?

I think of that no one's discussing and I really feel it would be a good discussion for learning, etc... Otherwise, there's usually a thread discussing whatever topics I'm interested in. Again, trying to give you a hint here. The choice going forward is yours but I'd bet if you laid low with starting threads for awhile while still posting on other threads, you wouldn't receive 1/4 of the backlash you receive. Use the advice or not

Our chances this year? I think we finish strong and make the pats go 18-1 again.

In comment 12642194 GMenLTS said:
[quote] I think of that no one's discussing and I really feel it would be a good discussion for learning, etc... Otherwise, there's usually a thread discussing whatever topics I'm interested in. Again, trying to give you a hint here. The choice going forward is yours but I'd bet if you laid low with starting threads for awhile while still posting on other threads, you wouldn't receive 1/4 of the backlash you receive. Use the advice or not

Our chances this year? I think we finish strong and make the pats go 18-1 again. [/quote

Thanks for the advice and I agree about the 18-1
Those people in New England will really hate us
Hey whatayagonnado

I just checked the Vegas odds we are now 18-1 down from 20-1 last week and we are tied with Denver at the #7 slot

In comment 12642180 EVERY4YEARS said:

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In comment 12642156 GMenLTS said: Quote: and I still think your threads suck. Thus, maybe take a hint, and try your best to not start a thread every time a new thought about the team pops into your head. That's been the biggest reason for the pile on. Sorry you can't see it. I might say your threads suck too but I cannot recall any what are your thought on our chances this year?

BTW staying on topic- what do you think of Reese's #1 picks
vs the horrific picks down the last 50 years at #1

Also don't credit Jerry Jones with Parcells and Johnsons picks if you do the Cowboys #1s comparison Vs Giants