NFT: Golden State about to have the best start in NBA history

Curry isn't a great player he's just a great shooter.

that maybe lessens their achievement.....





.....they haven't faced....



The Kavorka

has the trifecta: excellent front office, excellent coaching, excellent best player. They have a very deep, versatile, talented roster. On top of that, the offense hums with both the starters and backups. And then there's Steph Curry.

It's like when a Best Picture film has incredible directing, a great screenplay, and a fantastic actor

In comment 12643353 djm said:

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Curry isn't a great player he's just a great shooter.

LOL.

Is playing poorly this year, and quite a few of them are playing better than ever. Iguodala is money behind the line. Ezeli is alley-ooping like it'should going out of style. Draymond Green is doing everything well: scoring, rebounding, passing, setting great screens, defending 5 positions, getting loose balls... filling up the box score while contributing in ways that don't appear on it.

Freaking fun.

Curry now has a great handle, maybe the best in the league. He's a good assist man and a respectable defender. His one weakness has been too many turnovers (but tonight he had 9 assists and no turnovers).

As santacruzom mentioned, several players are playing better than ever -- including Curry, Draymond, Barnes and Ezeli. Iguodala is playing better than last year. And a lot of the bench players could start on other teams. Only Klay Thompson and Mo Speights have started off somewhat unevenly, and that may be due to a bad back. I'll also be curious to see how their rookie first round pick Kevon Looney does once he gets healthy.

And they've been doing this all without their head coach on the sidelines.

Speights has just been in a bit of a slump.

In comment 12643354 SethFromAstoria said:

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that maybe lessens their achievement..... .....they haven't faced.... The Kavorka

Thread over.

obliterate them.

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Fun team to root for too.

In comment 12643402 chris r said:

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obliterate them.

These Warriors are certainly better than the 97 and 98 Bulls, those 2 Bulls teams would have an extremely hard time of beating this GS team. Don't know about 96 and the original 3peat Bulls. Dennis Rodman would be far less impactful in today's game unless he switched up his style. He left the guy he was guarding open all the time so he could gobble up boards, against today's stretch 4s he could not be allowed to play that style.

The 3peat Lakers should have lost to the Kings and the Blazers during their run. It took epic chokejobs, historically shady reffing, Big Shot Bob, and some other lucky bounces for them to win those two series.

As great as Shaq/Kobe were, those LA teams lacked depth which is why the deep rosters of Sacramento and Portland gave them problems. The Warriors are just as deep as those teams.

"16 games into '16" Steph is a better offensive player than Kobe ever was and probably Shaq too, don't know if this is just a hot streak but Curry has been historic to start this season.

this is not your father's NBA. When I think of how many times Jordan would end up on his ass during those classic Bull/Knick battles I wonder how Curry's would be able to maintain his health during a 7 game series with just the Knicks. Does anyone believe that Mason/Oakley/Bonner/Starks/Anthony would allow the amount of uncontested drives that Curry's game thrives on? He's a tough kid but if the game stayed as tough and ruthless as it used to be in the 90's his entire game would be relegated to outside shooting. Face it, all you need to know about how the game is different now is to watch one Chris Bosh game.

the flip side is that those bruising players from the 90s wouldn't be able to keep up with the speed and versatility of this Warriors team. As tough as Ewing and Oakley and Mason are, they wouldn't be able to keep up with Draymond and Barnes on the perimeter knocking down 3s.

As tough and physical as those teams are, they still have to guard Curry tight behind the arc, and a pick and roll's effect won't be altered by a change in the rules.

Who knows who would win these contests, but I am willing to bet the Warriors will trade 3s for 2s with any team all night long.

Bean Bryant: 1-14, 4 points.

fair enough, as I said the game has changed and this is why you really cannot compare eras but I cannot for the life of me understand why the Cavaliers didn't take some Greg Anthony-type scrub and put Curry on the line with a hard foul every time he drove to the net early in the finals just to send a message. My only guess was the guy to do that was Dellavedova and he was already under so much scrutiny for his "dirty" play in the semifinals for having the gall to play defense.

of fun to watch if you can stay up late enough to see their games. The ball movement, fast breaking, realllly high screens, just watching curry, etc. If this is the new NBA, then sign me up. What a rebound the NBA has had since the early 2000s.

In comment 12643402 chris r said:

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obliterate them.

thank you Debbie downer.

is as big of a kick in the nuts as I've ever had in sports.

like the Bulls in 1996. These Warriors always find a way to win. Don't think they'll get to 72-10 though because Curry usually needs to sit a few games to rest his ankle that acts up from time to time.

However if Curry plays 80 games that record is possible

In comment 12643531 Les in TO said:

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In comment 12643402 chris r said: Quote: obliterate them. thank you Debbie downer.

He's a shitty human being.

in trying to disprove a purely hypothetical argument, but I can counter just by saying they'd have swept the mid 90's Bulls and would have made Michael Jordan retire early.

minus David Lee and plus a ton more confidence, chemistry and experience. This does nothing to diminish what this team's accomplished, but it does diminish the "struggles" (hehe) last year's team had against the Cavs. Last year's team was the youngest NBA team to win a Championship in 40ish years. They were also the first team to go from a previous year's elimination in the first round to a Championship without making any significant player acquisition in maybe 30 years.

Some people overstated the losses they had against the Cavs with ridiculous hyperbole like, "They were never really that good this year!" But they were a young team with relatively little previous playoff struggles and a first year coach, AND they won the championship and won 67 games. So, last laugh is theirs.

In comment 12643475 GentleGiant said:

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fair enough, as I said the game has changed and this is why you really cannot compare eras but I cannot for the life of me understand why the Cavaliers didn't take some Greg Anthony-type scrub and put Curry on the line with a hard foul every time he drove to the net early in the finals just to send a message. My only guess was the guy to do that was Dellavedova and he was already under so much scrutiny for his "dirty" play in the semifinals for having the gall to play defense.

Perhaps, but what message is being sent by racking up fouls and putting the player with the third best FT% in NBA history on the line each time he drove the paint?

100 times, 2 days rest between games. New injuries not a factor, but guys who are currently out long term remain out (e.g. no Embiid). How many games do the Sixers win? Is 0 more likely than 15? I feel like the number has to be single digits, probably lower single digits.

this season, Massey Ratings puts the Warriors at a 96% win probability against the 76ers. Unfortunately, you can only simulate short series and not 100 games
http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=284081&t0=Golden+State+Warriors&h=0&s1=284081&t1=Philadelphia+76ers - ( New Window )

In comment 12643921 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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In comment 12643475 GentleGiant said: Quote: fair enough, as I said the game has changed and this is why you really cannot compare eras but I cannot for the life of me understand why the Cavaliers didn't take some Greg Anthony-type scrub and put Curry on the line with a hard foul every time he drove to the net early in the finals just to send a message.

Curry has shown himself to be pretty impervious to that kind of treatment. Chris Paul really roughed him up the most recent time they played. Didn't help.

In comment 12643923 Deej said:

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100 times, 2 days rest between games. New injuries not a factor, but guys who are currently out long term remain out (e.g. no Embiid). How many games do the Sixers win? Is 0 more likely than 15? I feel like the number has to be single digits, probably lower single digits.

I'd say close to, but not quite, ten. The Warriors still have 20+ turnover games from time to time, and they still send their opponent to the line twice as much as they get there themselves pretty regularly. I'd say out of 100 games, there'd be 5-10 in which those bad tendencies both converge.

In comment 12643921 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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In comment 12643475 GentleGiant said: Quote: fair enough, as I said the game has changed and this is why you really cannot compare eras but I cannot for the life of me understand why the Cavaliers didn't take some Greg Anthony-type scrub and put Curry on the line with a hard foul every time he drove to the net early in the finals just to send a message. My only guess was the guy to do that was Dellavedova and he was already under so much scrutiny for his "dirty" play in the semifinals for having the gall to play defense. Perhaps, but what message is being sent by racking up fouls and putting the player with the third best FT% in NBA history on the line each time he drove the paint?

The other point that often gets lost is that this Warriors team has a pretty good defense in its own right, maybe even a great one. As others have pointed out, they're built for this era. But how do you think guys like Bogut, Draymond, Festus Ezeli and Iguodala would do if they were freed up to play tougher D?

As it is, they get hit with lots of ticky tack calls that probably wouldn't be fouls in the old days, and opponents regularly go to the line more frequently than the Warriors do. Considering the punishment he takes and the lack of calls he gets, I think Curry may be the least respected MVP ever by the refs.