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NFT: NY Rangers Vs. Montreal Canadiens - 11/25 7 PM Game Thread

SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 2:51 am
Huge early season meeting...


16-3-2, 1st in Metropolitan Division

v.

16-4-2, 1st in Atlantic Division


Let's try to continue my winning streak of 1.

Some fond recent memories. Rangers are currently incapable of losing. Not playing well and this is a good team. I will be realistic based on the recent struggles in games that the Rangers have had. Not going to be easy at all.





4-1 Rangers.







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Seriously?  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/25/2015 2:51 pm : link
That sucks, I assumed it was on. Late dinner at the Rusty Nail I guess
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Giants in 07 : 11/25/2015 3:14 pm : link
In comment 12644104 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 12643876 MetsAreBack said:

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I really think the NHL needs to modify its playoff format. I'd have 3 teams from each division make it, fans do like the playoff rivalries -- but after the division winners, all teams including the wild card, are ranked based on points. So if the 3rd team in the division is worse than the WC team assigned to that division... the 3rd place team drops to 4th and would be away if they face the WC in a later round.

And i'm assuming MTL will end up facing NYI or Pitt in round 1. Their road wont be easy - and unless TB trades Stamkos, which i continue to doubt, then its hard to believe TB won't right its ship at some point and put together a long winning streak... like we've done in december/january the past few years.



I wouldn't guarantee anyone but the division winner a playoff spot.

I don't think the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff picture is as good as it was last year. I think it's slightly more top heavy this year - I think MTL/NYR/WAS are a cut above with TB as a wildcard.

MTL-WAS ECF, with MTL winning the Cup.

Someone mentioned the team's injury luck, which was another good point:



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Man-Games Lost NHL
‏@ManGamesLostNHL
Bottom 10 NHL man-games lost to injury

NYR 6
WSH 9
NSH 19
WPG 31
CHI 36
PIT 37
MTL 38
SJS CBJ LAK 39



I think they have the depth to get through some injuries on D, though. NHL Injury Viz - ( New Window )


Brett, this is why it's important that McIlrath plays more. Have to expect the injury bug to hit us at some point this season. Same with Etem, although I think we're much better with him not in the lineup.
Ranger friendly's  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 3:19 pm : link
let's just be thankful on Thanksgiving about that injury stat. Of all the stats and all the metrics and all the arguing and Larry Brooks articles about how we win but are terrible...the thing that is not sustainable is everyone being healthy all year.

Just please nothing catastrophic.
RE: Seriously?  
B in ALB : 11/25/2015 3:58 pm : link
In comment 12644234 AP in Halfmoon said:
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That sucks, I assumed it was on. Late dinner at the Rusty Nail I guess


Nice bucket of hot wings and some brews. Can't go wrong.
LGR!  
NYerInMA : 11/25/2015 6:13 pm : link
I want revenge for the last game in Montreal.
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MetsAreBack : 11/25/2015 6:32 pm : link
In comment 12644104 BrettNYG10 said:
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MTL-WAS ECF, with MTL winning the Cup.


Well happy thanksgiving to you too sunshine. Nut up, Hank is due.

And it's way too fucking early in the season to proclaim only 3 good teams in the east. You know what the Penguins record was this time last year? Similar to ours right now. Don't write off the islanders or lightning yet, and we'll see about Detroit too - they've impressed me so far. Good goaltending and some young forwards.

Penguins are the very least better than last years playoff version sans kessell and most of their defense
Listening to NFL Sirius  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/25/2015 6:38 pm : link
Moving the Chains and I heard a blurb about Crosby having a falling out with Lemieux. Did anyone hear that? No sure it will mean anything but I'm pleased all the same.
RE: Listening to NFL Sirius  
NYerInMA : 11/25/2015 6:43 pm : link
In comment 12644486 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Moving the Chains and I heard a blurb about Crosby having a falling out with Lemieux. Did anyone hear that? No sure it will mean anything but I'm pleased all the same.


I heard it, and apparently Lemieux denied it, so it's probably true. So sad.
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BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2015 6:49 pm : link
In comment 12644482 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 12644104 BrettNYG10 said:


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MTL-WAS ECF, with MTL winning the Cup.



Well happy thanksgiving to you too sunshine. Nut up, Hank is due.

And it's way too fucking early in the season to proclaim only 3 good teams in the east. You know what the Penguins record was this time last year? Similar to ours right now. Don't write off the islanders or lightning yet, and we'll see about Detroit too - they've impressed me so far. Good goaltending and some young forwards.

Penguins are the very least better than last years playoff version sans kessell and most of their defense


I picked them to win last year. And they let me down. The trust is broken.

Boston might make a run at a playoff spot too - they're in a wild card spot despite Rask playing terribly.

AP - I saw this article earlier. Mario apparently issued a rebuttal.
Yahoo Sports - ( New Window )
Penguins are 12-8 despite Crosby playing so poorly  
MetsAreBack : 11/25/2015 6:57 pm : link
With a lot of new faces on that roster which will learn to play better together as season progresses

I don't think they can win a cup but the talent is certainly there to end our season. Hopefully they or the islanders end up in the Habs bracket.

By the way I could see us finishing first and facing CBJ round one. Don't want that - I want the league to sweep the leg of the jackets
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SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 7:01 pm : link
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2015 7:02 pm : link
Yeah, you're right. I thought Boston was a cut above everyone in the East in 2014 and MTL knocked them out (and then missed the playoffs the next season which is a great example of how you never know when the window will slam shut).
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BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2015 7:03 pm : link
Espn  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 7:29 pm : link
With a quarter of the NHL season in the books, let's run down the top candidates for all the major awards:

Hart

Winner: Henrik Lundqvist, G, New York Rangers
Runners-up: Patrick Kane, RW, Chicago Blackhawks; Tyler Seguin, C, Dallas Stars

There's no way that Lundqvist can continue at his current pace, with a league-leading .946 save percentage, but there's not much argument that he's had the greatest impact through the first quarter of the season. That's not to say that Kane and Seguin haven't been great, because they are both on pace for better than 115 points, and the last time the NHL's leading scorer had more than 115 points was in 2006-2007 (Sidney Crosby had 120).



Vezina

Winner: Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers
Runners-up: James Reimer, Toronto Maple Leafs; Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

It's easy to pick the first quarter winner, since Lundqvist has been so great, but the challengers are a little more wide open. Fleury has covered for a lot of the Penguins' flaws, while Reimer has taken over the Leafs' starting job with his impressive start to the season. Detroit's Petr Mrazek, and Montreal's Carey Price, who missed time with injury, are other viable candidates.
Ugly  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:31 pm : link
and you cant fall down 2-3 on Price.
Well at least  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 7:41 pm : link
Pisstaps Kozingeees has 3 blocks just starting the second.
can't put sticks near legs  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 7:43 pm : link
they have a way of going out from under people.
Rangers picked it up near the end of the 1st  
dpinzow : 11/25/2015 7:50 pm : link
Lindberg hit the post on the PP
Canadiens  
Percy : 11/25/2015 7:54 pm : link
Skating awfully well. Without Lundqvist Rangers would be down by more than one.
Shame  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 8:33 pm : link
this game could have been good but it came in the middle of this stinky little funk they are in. I've seen a version of this game 100 times in recent years.

The Rangers will suddenly score or habe something happen with like 6 minutes to go in the 3rd. And then they will suddenly start playing the right way and we'll all be lke "Well nice of them to show up "
Dominated at ES in 4 out of the last 5 periods  
Giants in 07 : 11/25/2015 8:37 pm : link
Need to get one here or early in the 3rd.
Confused  
Percy : 11/25/2015 8:37 pm : link
and ineffective so far tonight. How can you finish a power play so casually in your own end?
Finally!  
Percy : 11/25/2015 8:41 pm : link
Can they keep it up?
its a  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 8:42 pm : link
POWER PLAY GOAAAALLLLL


Now lets get back to Rangers hockey in the last week (meh effort...then a little better....then good and then win after a mostly crappy game)
Montreal taking so many penalties  
Giants in 07 : 11/25/2015 8:43 pm : link
Let us back in it!
Rangers Score on Power Play  
Percy : 11/25/2015 8:49 pm : link
about one in four. Canadiens ought not to have let them have four, but did. Let's see how they come out in the third. Price is awfully tough to get through.
RE: Rangers Score on Power Play  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 9:02 pm : link
In comment 12644667 Percy said:
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about one in four. Canadiens ought not to have let them have four, but did. Let's see how they come out in the third. Price is awfully tough to get through.


HA!! i wish! 1 in 4 is Rangers in 1994 numbers. Thats way high. THink they are at 19-20. 1 in 5. Rangers usually need 3 games to get 5 pps/
Price Out  
Percy : 11/25/2015 9:05 pm : link
But what happens? Give it up and Canadiens score immediately.
What is that play by Staal?  
Giants in 07 : 11/25/2015 9:07 pm : link
Blindly throwing the puck behind you out of the defensive zone?

Two horrible defensive plays in a minute.
And Another  
Percy : 11/25/2015 9:07 pm : link
Well, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Hank just collapsed  
nygmen84 : 11/25/2015 9:07 pm : link
Not very sharp today plus poor defense is not a good combo against a top team in the league.
Nice period  
MetsAreBack : 11/25/2015 9:08 pm : link
See you friday
Good night Irene  
NYerInMA : 11/25/2015 9:08 pm : link
Rangers starting their Thanksgiving break early it seems.
Washington wins yet again  
MetsAreBack : 11/25/2015 9:32 pm : link
Pretty shitty sports night in the NHL

Hopefully this is a bit of a wake up call - team has to be better than this. Burn the tape and play well in Boston
Fuckin Seth..  
Davisian : 11/25/2015 9:32 pm : link
...
Well that sucked  
AP in Halfmoon : 11/25/2015 9:37 pm : link
Glad it wasn't on TV. On to Friday
Montreal  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2015 9:42 pm : link
got the biggest loss in this game, that looked like an ACL for Price. And I still can't figure out why he was sliding across that way.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2015 9:44 pm : link
Same issues, different result due to a pedestrian Lundqvist/less puck luck. Girardi and Staal have been absolutely brutal this season.

Why did Price finish that period if he got hurt?
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pjcas18 : 11/25/2015 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12644751 BrettNYG10 said:
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Same issues, different result due to a pedestrian Lundqvist/less puck luck. Girardi and Staal have been absolutely brutal this season.

Why did Price finish that period if he got hurt?


I read he was warm and didn't realize the extent of the injury until he rested after the period and cooled down.

hopefully it was just a precaution, but if you watch that video it looked like one of those NFL non-contact injuries.
Thanks.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2015 9:51 pm : link
I saw rumors he was hurt on Twitter during the commercials in the second but the Rangers announcers didn't mention it at the time so I assumed he was fine. I haven't seen a replay of when he was hurt yet.
RE: Thanks.  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2015 9:56 pm : link
In comment 12644760 BrettNYG10 said:
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I saw rumors he was hurt on Twitter during the commercials in the second but the Rangers announcers didn't mention it at the time so I assumed he was fine. I haven't seen a replay of when he was hurt yet.


try this link, just looks awkward
Price injured - ( New Window )
Wow. Looks nasty.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2015 9:59 pm : link
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RE: .....  
Vanzetti : 11/25/2015 10:24 pm : link
In comment 12644751 BrettNYG10 said:
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S Girardi and Staal have been absolutely brutal this season.



You do realize the Rangers are the #1 defensive team in hockey?

So obviously neither Staal nor Girardi has been brutal. Staal struggles with speedy, elusive forwards, so there are certain teams like Montreal and Tampa Bay that will give him problems. But he is far from "brutal." He is a solid second-pair d-man


....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2015 10:29 pm : link
Lowest GAA=/=#1 defensive team. They're a bottom five team in shots allowed and high danger scoring chances against. They've been saved by their goaltending.
Just  
PaulN : 11/25/2015 10:30 pm : link
A reminder at how they will come through as usual and choke in the playoff matchup. Maybe Kreider can wipe Price's balls for forgiveness.

Sorry if I took this loss bad, at my age and as many times as I have seen this replay, it's tough not to. I guess I should be happy they won 1 fucking cup in the 50 years I have been following them.
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pjcas18 : 11/25/2015 10:31 pm : link
In comment 12644822 BrettNYG10 said:
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Lowest GAA=/=#1 defensive team. They're a bottom five team in shots allowed and high danger scoring chances against. They've been saved by their goaltending.


What Brett said. Henrik, prior to tonight, was performing at a record setting pace (granted its early). I don't watch the Rangers like you guys, but their D gave the Montreal forwards a lot of space and a lot of freedom to move around, in addition to turning it over.
Did the Canadiens  
B in ALB : 11/25/2015 10:39 pm : link
blame it on Krieder yet?
RE: Did the Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12644835 B in ALB said:
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blame it on Krieder yet?


yes, they asked the NYPD to issue a warrant for his arrest.
Was really excited about the Thanksgiving lineup of games starting  
baadbill : 11/26/2015 9:33 am : link
with the Canadiens ... but last night was just horrible. No pressure on offense. No puck control. And Canadiens were walking free 10 feet in front of the net all night long. Not a way to start a Canadiens/Bruins/Flyers weekend.
For the love of god get staal and Girardi a game off each  
MetsAreBack : 11/26/2015 9:51 am : link
This weekend. The undertaker needs burn.

I'm not even saying those guys are terrible - but they don't need to play 82 games plus playoffs anymore. Save 'em (I also think mcilraith can help us more this weekend than they can)
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