NFT: NY Rangers Vs. Montreal Canadiens - 11/25 7 PM Game Thread

Still a loaded roster we go against tonight highlighted by Price/Pacioretty/Subhan/Galchenyuk. Eller/Deshamais/Markov aren't slouches either.

So 4-1 is what you deem realistic Seth? They shut us out in the first tilt of the season. You're the ZGiants of Rangers hockey..The ultimate homer. Nice pic of the hockey savant Zuccs.

Still, I'm feeling good about this game. Recent history shows we play them much better in the Garden than up North.

LGR!

the Montreal Floppers are off to a good start...hope Kreids crashes the net a few times

Also hope we can take the play to them more consistently, instead of getting a goal and then playing save us Henrik hockey the rest of the way

Is this the earliest Rangers game thread in history?

Caps interfering in Northern VA. Who will stream this game?

Definitely thought I gave it my best shot at sarcastic message board comedy...

Nah I was goofing around. 4-1 is obviously an asskicking. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a tough close game and the Rangers will play a different game vs them than we've seen the last couple nights.

8-0 win.

#lgr

5-1 loss.

Cut the shit. We don't lose...

3-0 Hank and Zucc.

In comment 12643469 BrettNYG10 said:

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8-0 win. #lgr

I can see the Rangers winning, but 8 - 0 would be a surprise. Montreal could lose big if they get down early, like they did to the Avalanche who are terrible.

Montreal's 3rd line is carrying the team. Desharnais, Wiese (who as much as I want to hate for his goofy looking face, he's playing well) and Fleischmann.

Rangers (like the Lightning) are one of the teams whose speed gives the Montreal D problems. Markov is almost 37 and Subban is not a defensive stalwart. that's their #1 pairing.

If Price is on his game he should keep it close (and he has come back from his injury pretty rusty). the Canadiens are without two top 6 forwards, one top D, and their biggest off-season addition and I just don't know if they have the roster depth to handle that.

Rangers are the least injured NHL team so far, if that keeps up they'll be tough to beat.

My prediction, close game, and a thread full of complaining about the refs, whining about Montreal diving, and a whole bunch of misguided testosterone.

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My prediction, close game, and a thread full of complaining about the refs, whining about Montreal diving, and a whole bunch of misguided testosterone.

I'll do my part.

NYR's defense has really struggled - and for a team with such great speed upfront, their D struggles with faster forwards (Girardi, Staal, and Boyle simply don't have the footspeed). The team's really struggled with the puck in the defensive zone - the Habs have enough speed to capitalize if those struggles continue. Should be a good game.

those aren't exactly bold predictions bud. The refs don't call penalties against teams that play the Rangers, the Canadiens dive like pros, and its better it's misguided testosterone than guided testosterone.

In comment 12643567 SethFromAstoria said:

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those aren't exactly bold predictions bud. The refs don't call penalties against teams that play the Rangers, the Canadiens dive like pros, and its better it's misguided testosterone than guided testosterone.

LOL, I never said I was going out on a limb with my predictions.

in overtime...believe it and it will happen #lgr

In comment 12643487 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 12643469 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: 8-0 win. #lgr I can see the Rangers winning, but 8 - 0 would be a surprise. Montreal could lose big if they get down early, like they did to the Avalanche who are terrible. Montreal's 3rd line is carrying the team. Desharnais, Wiese (who as much as I want to hate for his goofy looking face, he's playing well) and Fleischmann. Rangers (like the Lightning) are one of the teams whose speed gives the Montreal D problems. Markov is almost 37 and Subban is not a defensive stalwart. that's their #1 pairing. If Price is on his game he should keep it close (and he has come back from his injury pretty rusty). the Canadiens are without two top 6 forwards, one top D, and their biggest off-season addition and I just don't know if they have the roster depth to handle that. Rangers are the least injured NHL team so far, if that keeps up they'll be tough to beat. My prediction, close game, and a thread full of complaining about the refs, whining about Montreal diving, and a whole bunch of misguided testosterone.

agreed, and I predict either the Rangers or Canadians win...

Many fond memories of games from the 70s.

In comment 12643635 AP in Halfmoon said:

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Many fond memories of games from the 70s.

Really? Canadiens Rangers is your favorite sports rivalry?

I don't remember any games from the 70's, but I don't think any Canadiens fans consider the Rangers a rival. Bruins, Maple Leafs, even Senators, but I don't see Rangers come up as a Habs rival.

Bienvenue."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/sports/hockey/montreals-message-to-an-american-captain-bienvenue.html?ref=sports&_r=0

good piece on Pacioretty, who hails from nearby New Canaan, CT

lgr, and fuuukk pj

MTL tries to neutralize our speed by slashing out the skates of our forwards.

brains with solid hockey plays like this.

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Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 16h16 hours ago Carey Price v NYR reg season since 12/13: 7-1, 3 GA/225 shots, 5 SHO, 0.37 GAA, .987 save pct. (At MSG: 2-0, 1 GA/49 shots, 1 SHO).

Fischler picked the Rangers to win the Cup - he also told me before game 5 of the ECF that they'd win last year, so...

The Habs should make it out of their division and into the ECF this year, especially if TB continues to struggle. Really no excuse given how shitty the rest of their division is (which is why I hate they did away with 1-8 seedings... fuck Bettman).

Fuck arc btw.
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In comment 12643487 pjcas18 said:

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the Canadiens are without two top 6 forwards, one top D, and their biggest off-season addition and I just don't know if they have the roster depth to handle that. My prediction, close game, and a thread full of complaining about the refs, whining about Montreal diving, and a whole bunch of misguided testosterone.

Wow, any other pre-game excuses? Who is this offseason addition you speak of - Semin? bwahaha. Rangers are playing without Redden - it evens out.

I do love how commenting about the Rangers ridiculous for/against penalties this season = "misguided testosterone." Fuck the French, fuck pj.

In comment 12643839 Deej said:

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MTL tries to neutralize our speed by slashing out the skates of our forwards.

Dress Dylan and let the chips fall wherever.

In comment 12643846 BrettNYG10 said:

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Quote: Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 16h16 hours ago Carey Price v NYR reg season since 12/13: 7-1, 3 GA/225 shots, 5 SHO, 0.37 GAA, .987 save pct. (At MSG: 2-0, 1 GA/49 shots, 1 SHO). Fischler picked the Rangers to win the Cup - he also told me before game 5 of the ECF that they'd win last year, so... The Habs should make it out of their division and into the ECF this year, especially if TB continues to struggle. Really no excuse given how shitty the rest of their division is (which is why I hate they did away with 1-8 seedings... fuck Bettman). Fuck arc btw. THN - ( New Window )

I really think the NHL needs to modify its playoff format. I'd have 3 teams from each division make it, fans do like the playoff rivalries -- but after the division winners, all teams including the wild card, are ranked based on points. So if the 3rd team in the division is worse than the WC team assigned to that division... the 3rd place team drops to 4th and would be away if they face the WC in a later round.

And i'm assuming MTL will end up facing NYI or Pitt in round 1. Their road wont be easy - and unless TB trades Stamkos, which i continue to doubt, then its hard to believe TB won't right its ship at some point and put together a long winning streak... like we've done in december/january the past few years.

...but talk about 'unsustainable'...those stats are fucking ridiculous. After reading that I'm ok if AV sends Kreids out to steamroll him.

In comment 12643641 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 12643635 AP in Halfmoon said: Quote: Many fond memories of games from the 70s. Really? Canadiens Rangers is your favorite sports rivalry? I don't remember any games from the 70's, but I don't think any Canadiens fans consider the Rangers a rival. Bruins, Maple Leafs, even Senators, but I don't see Rangers come up as a Habs rival.

Because I grew up in northern NY without cable. We got CBC Hockey Night in Canada off air. So we would have the Habs or Leafs on Wednesdays and Saturdays. It was a thrill when the Rangers were on. It may not be a rivalry in the true sense of the word but it brings back many memories for me.

LGR!

Like a Hammer is a rival to a nail.


Good thing the only carry over from that era is pj's sucktitude.

Lots of football and hockey over the next 4 days

Rangers-Islanders...rivalry

Rangers-Pens...rivalry

Rangers-Caps...rivalry

Rangers-Habs...not so much

if nothing else because they're original 6 teams and it''s the identity of NY versus the nose in the air, diving and flopping, wine and cheese thespian gashes from Mohnreeal.

In comment 12643856 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 12643487 pjcas18 said: Quote: the Canadiens are without two top 6 forwards, one top D, and their biggest off-season addition and I just don't know if they have the roster depth to handle that. My prediction, close game, and a thread full of complaining about the refs, whining about Montreal diving, and a whole bunch of misguided testosterone. Wow, any other pre-game excuses? Who is this offseason addition you speak of - Semin? bwahaha. Rangers are playing without Redden - it evens out. I do love how commenting about the Rangers ridiculous for/against penalties this season = "misguided testosterone." Fuck the French, fuck pj.

No excuses, and the misguided testosterone was my playful commentary on the Rangers fans on here, LOL, not the players. they're fine.

Semin is awful and I prefer he be a healthy scratch.

the off-season acquisition was Zack Kassian (traded Prust and a pick), not a top 6 forward, but they didn't add anyone else (other than the flyer on Semin, and the flyer on Fleischmann) so relatively speaking Kassian was their off-season add)

Does anyone under the age of 60 really care that much about the Original 6? I cant get into a rivalry that totally pre-dates my fandom. Obviously if we're a rival for 50 years and continue to be a rival because of more recent events/division alignment, Im on board. But to tell me that we're rivals with Detroit or Chicago because 50 years ago we played them a lot more... Im pretty meh.

but I guess Semin left a bad taste in his mouth.

In comment 12644029 Deej said:

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but I guess Semin left a bad taste in his mouth.

this post is borderline in the category of misguided testosterone (or semin in this case).

In comment 12643969 Davisian said:

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Like a Hammer is a rival to a nail. Good thing the only carry over from that era is pj's sucktitude.

it's so obvious you're just jealous because Quinnipiac is #3 in the country (#2 in USA Today poll) and undefeated (with wins over Maine, St. Cloud State (twice), Cornell, Harvard and Dartmouth).

In comment 12643876 MetsAreBack said:

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I really think the NHL needs to modify its playoff format. I'd have 3 teams from each division make it, fans do like the playoff rivalries -- but after the division winners, all teams including the wild card, are ranked based on points. So if the 3rd team in the division is worse than the WC team assigned to that division... the 3rd place team drops to 4th and would be away if they face the WC in a later round. And i'm assuming MTL will end up facing NYI or Pitt in round 1. Their road wont be easy - and unless TB trades Stamkos, which i continue to doubt, then its hard to believe TB won't right its ship at some point and put together a long winning streak... like we've done in december/january the past few years.

I wouldn't guarantee anyone but the division winner a playoff spot.

I don't think the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff picture is as good as it was last year. I think it's slightly more top heavy this year - I think MTL/NYR/WAS are a cut above with TB as a wildcard.

MTL-WAS ECF, with MTL winning the Cup.

Someone mentioned the team's injury luck, which was another good point:

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Man-Games Lost NHL ‏@ManGamesLostNHL Bottom 10 NHL man-games lost to injury NYR 6 WSH 9 NSH 19 WPG 31 CHI 36 PIT 37 MTL 38 SJS CBJ LAK 39

I think they have the depth to get through some injuries on D, though.
NHL Injury Viz - ( New Window )

at NHL playable Dman (depending on what you think of Skjei). Our 13th forward would be playing on almost every team (without doing a roster review), and would have played on any of the previous post Cup Era Rangers teams if Im recalling them correctly. As a top 6 on a bunch of them. Really not sure what is NHL playable for forwards at the AHL level. Glass is probably 1st up. Gibbons, Menga, and Adam have 50-100 NHL games but seem meh. Nick Tarnasky has 250 games, even though I have no recollection of him whatsoever.

Probably too early to assess the East. Werent we semi-shitty until December last season?

Not shown in Albany. A complete travesty. Absolute Fucking horseshit.

Enjoy the game you mouthbreathers.

That sucks, I assumed it was on. Late dinner at the Rusty Nail I guess

In comment 12644104 BrettNYG10 said:

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In comment 12643876 MetsAreBack said: Quote: I really think the NHL needs to modify its playoff format. I'd have 3 teams from each division make it, fans do like the playoff rivalries -- but after the division winners, all teams including the wild card, are ranked based on points. So if the 3rd team in the division is worse than the WC team assigned to that division... the 3rd place team drops to 4th and would be away if they face the WC in a later round. And i'm assuming MTL will end up facing NYI or Pitt in round 1. Their road wont be easy - and unless TB trades Stamkos, which i continue to doubt, then its hard to believe TB won't right its ship at some point and put together a long winning streak... like we've done in december/january the past few years. I wouldn't guarantee anyone but the division winner a playoff spot. I don't think the bottom half of the Eastern Conference playoff picture is as good as it was last year. I think it's slightly more top heavy this year - I think MTL/NYR/WAS are a cut above with TB as a wildcard. MTL-WAS ECF, with MTL winning the Cup. Someone mentioned the team's injury luck, which was another good point: Quote: Man-Games Lost NHL ‏@ManGamesLostNHL Bottom 10 NHL man-games lost to injury NYR 6 WSH 9 NSH 19 WPG 31 CHI 36 PIT 37 MTL 38 SJS CBJ LAK 39 I think they have the depth to get through some injuries on D, though. NHL Injury Viz - ( New Window )

Brett, this is why it's important that McIlrath plays more. Have to expect the injury bug to hit us at some point this season. Same with Etem, although I think we're much better with him not in the lineup.

let's just be thankful on Thanksgiving about that injury stat. Of all the stats and all the metrics and all the arguing and Larry Brooks articles about how we win but are terrible...the thing that is not sustainable is everyone being healthy all year.

Just please nothing catastrophic.

In comment 12644234 AP in Halfmoon said:

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That sucks, I assumed it was on. Late dinner at the Rusty Nail I guess

Nice bucket of hot wings and some brews. Can't go wrong.

I want revenge for the last game in Montreal.

In comment 12644104 BrettNYG10 said:

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MTL-WAS ECF, with MTL winning the Cup.

Well happy thanksgiving to you too sunshine. Nut up, Hank is due.

And it's way too fucking early in the season to proclaim only 3 good teams in the east. You know what the Penguins record was this time last year? Similar to ours right now. Don't write off the islanders or lightning yet, and we'll see about Detroit too - they've impressed me so far. Good goaltending and some young forwards.

Penguins are the very least better than last years playoff version sans kessell and most of their defense

Moving the Chains and I heard a blurb about Crosby having a falling out with Lemieux. Did anyone hear that? No sure it will mean anything but I'm pleased all the same.

In comment 12644486 AP in Halfmoon said:

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Moving the Chains and I heard a blurb about Crosby having a falling out with Lemieux. Did anyone hear that? No sure it will mean anything but I'm pleased all the same.

I heard it, and apparently Lemieux denied it, so it's probably true. So sad.

In comment 12644482 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 12644104 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: MTL-WAS ECF, with MTL winning the Cup. Well happy thanksgiving to you too sunshine. Nut up, Hank is due. And it's way too fucking early in the season to proclaim only 3 good teams in the east. You know what the Penguins record was this time last year? Similar to ours right now. Don't write off the islanders or lightning yet, and we'll see about Detroit too - they've impressed me so far. Good goaltending and some young forwards. Penguins are the very least better than last years playoff version sans kessell and most of their defense

I picked them to win last year. And they let me down. The trust is broken.

Boston might make a run at a playoff spot too - they're in a wild card spot despite Rask playing terribly.

AP - I saw this article earlier. Mario apparently issued a rebuttal.
Yahoo Sports - ( New Window )

With a lot of new faces on that roster which will learn to play better together as season progresses

I don't think they can win a cup but the talent is certainly there to end our season. Hopefully they or the islanders end up in the Habs bracket.

By the way I could see us finishing first and facing CBJ round one. Don't want that - I want the league to sweep the leg of the jackets

Yeah, you're right. I thought Boston was a cut above everyone in the East in 2014 and MTL knocked them out (and then missed the playoffs the next season which is a great example of how you never know when the window will slam shut).

With a quarter of the NHL season in the books, let's run down the top candidates for all the major awards:

Hart

Winner: Henrik Lundqvist, G, New York Rangers
Runners-up: Patrick Kane, RW, Chicago Blackhawks; Tyler Seguin, C, Dallas Stars

There's no way that Lundqvist can continue at his current pace, with a league-leading .946 save percentage, but there's not much argument that he's had the greatest impact through the first quarter of the season. That's not to say that Kane and Seguin haven't been great, because they are both on pace for better than 115 points, and the last time the NHL's leading scorer had more than 115 points was in 2006-2007 (Sidney Crosby had 120).



Vezina

Winner: Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers
Runners-up: James Reimer, Toronto Maple Leafs; Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

It's easy to pick the first quarter winner, since Lundqvist has been so great, but the challengers are a little more wide open. Fleury has covered for a lot of the Penguins' flaws, while Reimer has taken over the Leafs' starting job with his impressive start to the season. Detroit's Petr Mrazek, and Montreal's Carey Price, who missed time with injury, are other viable candidates.

and you cant fall down 2-3 on Price.

Pisstaps Kozingeees has 3 blocks just starting the second.

they have a way of going out from under people.

Lindberg hit the post on the PP

Skating awfully well. Without Lundqvist Rangers would be down by more than one.

this game could have been good but it came in the middle of this stinky little funk they are in. I've seen a version of this game 100 times in recent years.

The Rangers will suddenly score or habe something happen with like 6 minutes to go in the 3rd. And then they will suddenly start playing the right way and we'll all be lke "Well nice of them to show up "

Need to get one here or early in the 3rd.

and ineffective so far tonight. How can you finish a power play so casually in your own end?

Can they keep it up?

POWER PLAY GOAAAALLLLL


Now lets get back to Rangers hockey in the last week (meh effort...then a little better....then good and then win after a mostly crappy game)

Let us back in it!

about one in four. Canadiens ought not to have let them have four, but did. Let's see how they come out in the third. Price is awfully tough to get through.

In comment 12644667 Percy said:

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about one in four. Canadiens ought not to have let them have four, but did. Let's see how they come out in the third. Price is awfully tough to get through.

HA!! i wish! 1 in 4 is Rangers in 1994 numbers. Thats way high. THink they are at 19-20. 1 in 5. Rangers usually need 3 games to get 5 pps/

But what happens? Give it up and Canadiens score immediately.

Blindly throwing the puck behind you out of the defensive zone?

Two horrible defensive plays in a minute.

Well, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Not very sharp today plus poor defense is not a good combo against a top team in the league.

See you friday

Rangers starting their Thanksgiving break early it seems.

Pretty shitty sports night in the NHL

Hopefully this is a bit of a wake up call - team has to be better than this. Burn the tape and play well in Boston

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Glad it wasn't on TV. On to Friday

got the biggest loss in this game, that looked like an ACL for Price. And I still can't figure out why he was sliding across that way.

Same issues, different result due to a pedestrian Lundqvist/less puck luck. Girardi and Staal have been absolutely brutal this season.

Why did Price finish that period if he got hurt?

In comment 12644751 BrettNYG10 said:

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Same issues, different result due to a pedestrian Lundqvist/less puck luck. Girardi and Staal have been absolutely brutal this season. Why did Price finish that period if he got hurt?

I read he was warm and didn't realize the extent of the injury until he rested after the period and cooled down.

hopefully it was just a precaution, but if you watch that video it looked like one of those NFL non-contact injuries.

I saw rumors he was hurt on Twitter during the commercials in the second but the Rangers announcers didn't mention it at the time so I assumed he was fine. I haven't seen a replay of when he was hurt yet.

In comment 12644760 BrettNYG10 said:

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I saw rumors he was hurt on Twitter during the commercials in the second but the Rangers announcers didn't mention it at the time so I assumed he was fine. I haven't seen a replay of when he was hurt yet.

try this link, just looks awkward
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In comment 12644751 BrettNYG10 said:

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S Girardi and Staal have been absolutely brutal this season.

You do realize the Rangers are the #1 defensive team in hockey?

So obviously neither Staal nor Girardi has been brutal. Staal struggles with speedy, elusive forwards, so there are certain teams like Montreal and Tampa Bay that will give him problems. But he is far from "brutal." He is a solid second-pair d-man

Lowest GAA=/=#1 defensive team. They're a bottom five team in shots allowed and high danger scoring chances against. They've been saved by their goaltending.

A reminder at how they will come through as usual and choke in the playoff matchup. Maybe Kreider can wipe Price's balls for forgiveness.

Sorry if I took this loss bad, at my age and as many times as I have seen this replay, it's tough not to. I guess I should be happy they won 1 fucking cup in the 50 years I have been following them.

In comment 12644822 BrettNYG10 said:

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Lowest GAA=/=#1 defensive team. They're a bottom five team in shots allowed and high danger scoring chances against. They've been saved by their goaltending.

What Brett said. Henrik, prior to tonight, was performing at a record setting pace (granted its early). I don't watch the Rangers like you guys, but their D gave the Montreal forwards a lot of space and a lot of freedom to move around, in addition to turning it over.

blame it on Krieder yet?

In comment 12644835 B in ALB said:

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blame it on Krieder yet?

yes, they asked the NYPD to issue a warrant for his arrest.

with the Canadiens ... but last night was just horrible. No pressure on offense. No puck control. And Canadiens were walking free 10 feet in front of the net all night long. Not a way to start a Canadiens/Bruins/Flyers weekend.

This weekend. The undertaker needs burn.

I'm not even saying those guys are terrible - but they don't need to play 82 games plus playoffs anymore. Save 'em (I also think mcilraith can help us more this weekend than they can)