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Deej : 11/25/2015 6:54 pm
Frye starting in place of Oladipo, who will play off the bench.

Orlando may lack a "scary" star but they're very deep in talent. Will be a challenge for our subs.

Finish the road trip on a positive note!
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Are we playin Orlando?  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 6:56 pm : link
or the Magic>?
good point  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:09 pm : link
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PSA  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:16 pm : link
Magic Guard Evan Fournier's nickname is Do Not Google. Take it seriously.
Sloppy start.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 7:20 pm : link
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Well, Melo decided to not to play defense today.  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/25/2015 7:21 pm : link
Just standing around and jacking up shots.
ugly game  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:25 pm : link
We dont seem to have an offense. Just a collection of guys doing things.

3 blocks for KP
The two-man game between Jose and RoLo  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 7:25 pm : link
sets basketball back about 75 years.
Our offense  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:27 pm : link
is offensive rebound based. not a good thing.
Oquinn  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:28 pm : link
really seems like a chucker. Ball goes in, does not come out.
That was a pretty bad shot  
Aspano! : 11/25/2015 7:31 pm : link
But it's weird - he started off the season playing well and passing a bit, while Seraphin was more of a black hole.
And here's Sasha!  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 7:35 pm : link
11 players in the first 11 minutes.
The problem  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:37 pm : link
and I dont want to overstate it, is that more talented scorers are appropriately moving the ball, and then less talented scorers like KOQ, Thomas, and Lopez are ball stopping. Irrational confidence in their own shooting ability (and in Lopez's case, post moves). If you let that set in, eventually what happens is that guys like Galloway and Afflalo will stop moving the ball to these guys, and then you have no offense at all.
What an ugly game  
Aspano! : 11/25/2015 7:39 pm : link
so far
Just waiting for Amundson to jumpstart this offense any second  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/25/2015 7:39 pm : link
now. At least Williams has the potential to do something.
Bring Zinger or Afflalo back now, they are not in foul trouble.

Fisher's saving his timeouts  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 7:43 pm : link
for Thanksgiving dinner.
second unit is terrible.  
Del Shofner : 11/25/2015 7:43 pm : link
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RE: good point  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 7:44 pm : link
In comment 12644510 Deej said:
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Oh...when I asked that there was a kNicks v Orlando, and a Knicks v Magic thread.
Melo goes out with foul trouble  
Aspano! : 11/25/2015 7:45 pm : link
And the solution is to bring in Thomas in his place? Why not bring in Galloway and shift Afflalo to the 3?
One more bucket  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 7:45 pm : link
and we reach 20 points!
RE: Fisher's saving his timeouts  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:46 pm : link
In comment 12644560 bceagle05 said:
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for Thanksgiving dinner.


Which ex-teammate's house is he having T'giving dinner at?
Fisher sucks.  
ADeP7 : 11/25/2015 7:47 pm : link
Absolute horrible coach and cannot wait for him to be fired

This isn't him trying out different things to set up rotations for down the line. This is just his shitty coaching
Vujacic, Amundson and Lance  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 7:47 pm : link
on the court at the same time. Fisher knows last season's over, right? Jason Smith's cameo must've confused him.
Sweet Lou  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:53 pm : link
doing his black hole impression there
wow - Knicks are discombobulated.  
Del Shofner : 11/25/2015 7:53 pm : link
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And then Lou  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:54 pm : link
doesnt pay attention as the pass comes in. By all rights, his night should be over.
Looks like they're satisfied  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 7:54 pm : link
with two wins on this road trip.
my lord  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 7:54 pm : link
come on people. DO you realize how many 9 point leads, how many quarters, how many minutes, how many games you will hae to wait for your wish to come true? Months. Many many months.

THey are shooting 22% and 1 of 6 from 3. GOing to need some better analysis from you guys if they are shooting that poorly and are down by 10 than "the coach sucks" every single minute. 16 games into his first season with a basketball team. Easy people, my lordy.
1st unit offense  
Aspano! : 11/25/2015 7:55 pm : link
seems to be decently well structured and disciplined. Then the second unit comes in and it's a shitshow.
Attacking other posters again  
Deej : 11/25/2015 7:56 pm : link
With no content Seth.

So you think it's good coaching to play 12 men in the 1st quarter? Who are the successful coaches who do that?
RE: 1st unit offense  
Del Shofner : 11/25/2015 7:59 pm : link
In comment 12644594 Aspano! said:
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seems to be decently well structured and disciplined. Then the second unit comes in and it's a shitshow.


Yes.
Fisher should try going without a 2nd unit  
Deej : 11/25/2015 8:01 pm : link
sub in 2 guys to play with 3 starters. Dont go 4-5 subs at a time. There isnt enough talent to do that.
The only reason I can think  
Aspano! : 11/25/2015 8:03 pm : link
of for Fisher sticking with the 12 man rotation, is that the team is playing above its head. I don't think he expected them to be 8-7 at this juncture, and perhaps he thinks "well, we're doing better than we thought, so it can't be a poor idea."

Although it's pretty obvious that Vujacic and Amundson shouldn't be on the court.
Porz is just lost tonight  
Deej : 11/25/2015 8:04 pm : link
on offense
Jason Smith torching us.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 8:04 pm : link
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KP is chucking now too.  
Del Shofner : 11/25/2015 8:04 pm : link
This is not going well.
down 11 at the half.  
Del Shofner : 11/25/2015 8:07 pm : link
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Well that sucked.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 8:08 pm : link
Hopefully we wake up at halftime. One little hot streak and this will be a game til the end.
1st unit came back  
Aspano! : 11/25/2015 8:08 pm : link
and you had 5 guys playing hero ball all at the same time. Barely any movement on offense - just dudes thinking they'll put in a shot and get the team going again.
35 points at the half, and KP can't hit a shot.  
yatqb : 11/25/2015 8:08 pm : link
Growing pains.
RE: Attacking other posters again  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 8:22 pm : link
In comment 12644595 Deej said:
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With no content Seth.

So you think it's good coaching to play 12 men in the 1st quarter? Who are the successful coaches who do that?


attacking other posters who don't like to read threads that do exactly as you're saying I do but instead of other posters its a coach.

So you think it's perfectly normal and not remotely annoying or irrational to call for a coach's head over and over and over every time a lead grows larger than 5 points? When his team is shooting at a rate that is beyond bad. Not every shot is a bad idea. They are misses.

I do think it makes sense to play 12 men if you can't find the mix that is successful in the matchups. Take a look at the stats for the half...the bench is 1 for 11 from the floor. The game is literally one team shooting sliiiiiiightly better than the other and both are shooting horribly. Our best player has zero points and is 0-5 and we can't hit a three.

So I don't have a solution for you aside from hoping they can shoot better and get some offense fron the 7'3" difference maker.


It's kind of funny though man...don't you realize that you complain to me, about me, because you don't mind what they are saying. But when I just think it's maybe a bit overzealous to call for coach's heads in this situation because it's a bit overreactive. I mean let's be real here man, its not content to call for firings everyday. My mom does that when they don't shoot well and lose a couple games in a row. SHe doesn;t know what she's saying, it's just "who's in charge of this mess!!? Fire them!" You're very selective in who you aim your response at.

FUnny part of this ia the Rangers and Knicks are playing the same game. M
and no offense BC etc..  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 8:24 pm : link
I didn't mean to be rude about it. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings friends.
great assist by KP  
Del Shofner : 11/25/2015 8:24 pm : link
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An NBA game has suddenly broken out!  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 8:27 pm : link
Let's win.
You know why I complain to you about you  
Deej : 11/25/2015 8:31 pm : link
wont rehash.

You suggestion that people are merely responding to bad stats this game is preposterous and once again demonstrates your selective reading. Your justification for a 12 man rotation, which is BY FAR the biggest complaint (and not the score or guys not hitting a shot) is, IMO, the worst opinion on this thread, no matter how snotty you are in delivering it. No team runs a 12 man rotation. There isnt some magic combination that is going to unleash Sweet Lou as an NBA rotation player. It's like a fool who keeps staring at a lottery ticket thinking the numbers are going to change.


Come on Fish  
Carl in CT : 11/25/2015 8:34 pm : link
Switch up Lopez is getting killed by Vuc. Earn your money!
RE: and no offense BC etc..  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 8:37 pm : link
In comment 12644628 SethFromAstoria said:
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I didn't mean to be rude about it. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings friends.


I'll try not to let it ruin my Thanksgiving.
dude  
SethFromAstoria : 11/25/2015 8:38 pm : link
we were all good...and unfortunately we have a very different opinion of which one of us is delivering any message in a snotty or worse way. My apologies for being rude to the posters. My apologies for not giving you a satisfactory opinion/reason why the coach is playing a deep rotation today. You've made it quite clear that you think it was a really ignorant and wrong opinion. Baffles me how you think I'm the one coming across in an antagonistic way here. But again, not arguing anymore. Enjoy the games.
Oh  
Deej : 11/25/2015 8:45 pm : link
Im being snotty to you in response. I never start snotty with you. But when you dish out snotty garbage like "GOing to need some better analysis from you guys" you'll get it from me. Every time dude.
down 9 after 3  
Del Shofner : 11/25/2015 8:46 pm : link
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Vujacic back in and bricks a three.  
bceagle05 : 11/25/2015 8:51 pm : link
He has brought absolutely nothing to the game tonight.
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