Hate to use injuries as an excuse but how can't you? Get JPP back, Hankins gets hurt and is out for the season. Get Prince back, DRC gets hurt. Pugh and Richburg, arguably our best OL are both out. Cruz never saw the field Beason barely did. Lost our starting TE even though he's barely average. It's a shit show.
Can't really be down on the guy for breaking his leg. But there's just no one behind Schwartz. This seems to be the difference between Giants and some (not all) other NFL teams. Every team gets injuries but with us there just seems to a huge drop off from starters to backups.
I know it's been said before but Giants need to seriously re-evaluate the whole training/medical staff. In addition to the crazy volume of injuries, which is well documented, it seems like we mismanage injuries at least as much as any other NFL team and maybe more. It's insane and alarming that he went from probable to broken leg, and in a vacuum that's odd but when you put it in the context of most injured team and managing a roster assuming certain players are coming back who never come back, it is very frustrating.
Can't really be down on the guy for breaking his leg. But there's just no one behind Schwartz. This seems to be the difference between Giants and some (not all) other NFL teams. Every team gets injuries but with us there just seems to a huge drop off from starters to backups.
Lets be real, most of our starters aren't very good either.
with KC?
Correct my poor memory as I am very fucked up right now but didn't he have a bad leg break once before?
Wasn't he out of the league for a long time before jerry signing him?
We have to replace this guy. Unfortunately reese will just go to FA and get another Schwartz exact injury prone mirror image. reese likes the injury prone linemen.
others is looking to retire with benefits, and we made him whole. Good for him he talked a good game. Our front office is the one with their heads up their asses with all these type guys they keep signing.
He only started 7 games for them. He was a backup before that. The Giants felt those 7 games were worth a big contract. Please disregard that he suffered significant injuries and hadn't started a game since 2010 prior to that.
so it's not like this was a reach on Jerry's part... can't get them all right. Schwartz was garbage (from the preseason on) and I hope I never see him in the starting lineup ever again.
RE: The reaction to the signing was overwhelmingly positive,
so it's not like this was a reach on Jerry's part... can't get them all right. Schwartz was garbage (from the preseason on) and I hope I never see him in the starting lineup ever again.
Wake up already and stop defending this moron of a GM. He sucked at Kansas City as well! Came with a history of being hurt which makes him a prime candidate for this empty suit!
nor will Beatty or Beason. Problem with Schwartz was that even healthy (as healthy as he ever was as a Giant -- which may have never been 100%), he wasn't very good regardless. And he cost a lot. It was a signing that didn't work out. Teams have those.
not held accountable for the results of their drafts or FA acquisitions that have resulted in our downward spiral these past 5 years because of lousy talent. Excuses , excuses etc. Maybe they are just over their heads, and should just be replaced before our franchise QB and HC are history.
A broken fibula (non weight bearing bone) usually 4-6 weeks
I guess if you're 100% committed and its not a bad break. I had a bad break on mine and I wasn't 100% for like 4 months dude. Honestly, its been 10 months and I can still "feel" it, hard to explain.
RE: RE: The reaction to the signing was overwhelmingly positive,
so it's not like this was a reach on Jerry's part... can't get them all right. Schwartz was garbage (from the preseason on) and I hope I never see him in the starting lineup ever again.
Wake up already and stop defending this moron of a GM. He sucked at Kansas City as well! Came with a history of being hurt which makes him a prime candidate for this empty suit!
I really hope you fall over tonight and hit your head on a counter causing you to bleed out of your head on to your kitchen floor.
nor will Beatty or Beason. Problem with Schwartz was that even healthy (as healthy as he ever was as a Giant -- which may have never been 100%), he wasn't very good regardless. And he cost a lot. It was a signing that didn't work out. Teams have those.
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Let's look at what this team needs, just on offense...
RT, RG, possible LG(if concussions become a problem), TE, RB, #2 WR, #3 WR....that's more than half your starters, never mind having reasonable backups.....
Only guys you have signed on defense, worth anything, is Hankins and DRC(but he will be a question mark throughout next season)....Collins is a ? mark....
Think we don't have holes? We will be in worse shape next year, than we were this year.....all that cap space means nothing, if you overspend on your own FA's, and if the guys you sign aren't better than what you let go...
Missing five games will cost Schwartz about $470k of NLTBE incentives.
In cap terms, that just about covers the guaranteed portion of his 2016 salary. If he is cut, the Giants will still have to eat his unamortized bonuses, but the total damage is under $2MM. While the signing was unsuccessful, it's not very significant in cap terms.
Geoff Schwartz, John Jerry and Marshall Newhouse are our punishment for picks like James Brewer and Brandon Mosley. A healthy Schwartz is the player Mosley was supposed to become.
He can come back from a fracture in a month?
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it doesn't look good, lets not jump to conclusions. Depends on the fracture.
He can come back from a fracture in a month?
Like I said, depends on the fracture.
You think Geoff Schwartz is going to really give a shit about getting back on the field? Please..
Right? If that isn't emblematic of our injury situation and medical staff, I don't know what is.
I agree terrible free agent signing. He won't be missed. Jon Jerry, Geoff Schwartz, Goofball Hart, same difference. They all suck.
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Good riddance.
I agree terrible free agent signing. He won't be missed. Jon Jerry, Geoff Schwartz, Goofball Hart, same difference. They all suck.
But they will all return. The owner has no spine.
You can't blame a guy for a broken bone.
But after a while, with so many FA's and Draftees who can't stay healthy, you have to wonder, WTF?
this is on Reese
for example, see Beason
Hart played fairly well IMO. Perhaps he is the future at Guard?
Broken leg -- you have to be kidding. I don't wish it on you
Lets be real, most of our starters aren't very good either.
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Good riddance.
I agree terrible free agent signing. He won't be missed. Jon Jerry, Geoff Schwartz, Goofball Hart, same difference. They all suck.
But they will all return. The owner has no spine.
I've noticed. He keeps saying if things don't change...... blah blah blah. Well Mara? Things haven't changed in 4 years now come on!!!
Giants will have so much money to spent, but sucks that they need like 30 new players
Correct my poor memory as I am very fucked up right now but didn't he have a bad leg break once before?
Wasn't he out of the league for a long time before jerry signing him?
We have to replace this guy. Unfortunately reese will just go to FA and get another Schwartz exact injury prone mirror image. reese likes the injury prone linemen.
A disappointment for us. Maybe he catches on somewhere next year.
Just like last year, move him to a position that he's not familiar with and he gets instantly injured.
He only started 7 games for them. He was a backup before that. The Giants felt those 7 games were worth a big contract. Please disregard that he suffered significant injuries and hadn't started a game since 2010 prior to that.
Wake up already and stop defending this moron of a GM. He sucked at Kansas City as well! Came with a history of being hurt which makes him a prime candidate for this empty suit!
I guess if you're 100% committed and its not a bad break. I had a bad break on mine and I wasn't 100% for like 4 months dude. Honestly, its been 10 months and I can still "feel" it, hard to explain.
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so it's not like this was a reach on Jerry's part... can't get them all right. Schwartz was garbage (from the preseason on) and I hope I never see him in the starting lineup ever again.
Wake up already and stop defending this moron of a GM. He sucked at Kansas City as well! Came with a history of being hurt which makes him a prime candidate for this empty suit!
I really hope you fall over tonight and hit your head on a counter causing you to bleed out of your head on to your kitchen floor.
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Only guys you have signed on defense, worth anything, is Hankins and DRC(but he will be a question mark throughout next season)....Collins is a ? mark....
Think we don't have holes? We will be in worse shape next year, than we were this year.....all that cap space means nothing, if you overspend on your own FA's, and if the guys you sign aren't better than what you let go...
Geoff Schwartz, John Jerry and Marshall Newhouse are our punishment for picks like James Brewer and Brandon Mosley. A healthy Schwartz is the player Mosley was supposed to become.