This was his 4th or 5th straight bad game. He seems to be regressing as the year has gone along. I was hoping this kid would be our franchise Left tackle but my expectations have declined a bit.
but it is getting overlooked because of others on our OL. I will give him the benefit of the doubt since he is a rookie but lets not make him out to be a solution for LT for the next decade just yet.
No need to bring him into this thread. Flowers had struggled the last few games. He didn't play well today (the whole O-line didn't), he was bad against Chandler Jones, he also didnt play well against Tampa.
He has the skills, right attitude and is physical. He needs to improve his technique and he will do that in time. He is not the issue right now. Newhouse had a terrible game. Skins also ran a number of stunts against this inexperienced line and that created havoc too. I think Reynolds did ok, however he didn't help on a few of those pressures off of stunts either. We need Pugh and Richburg back in a freakin hurry. Schwartz being out will not help the inexperienced line either.
An OLine is like a basketball team, 5 guys playing together.
Flowers would be an excellent rookie LT if he had 4 average or above-average guys playing next to him. And as a rookie RT - with 4 good guys alongside him - he might have been outstanding. He's 21 years old.
...he got thrown into the fire at that position. Not sure how one can be disappointed if he's not HOF caliber there just yet. If anything, I'm worried at how our veteran, SB MVP QB continues to look like a clueless rookie at times (and don't get me wrong, not bashing, I have the biggest man crush in the world on Eli) and even more so, I'm worried at how our coaching staff and FO continues to look even more like rookies given the performance of our overall product on the field. That's where you should be directing your frustration and bafflement towards.
He was always going to have his struggles this season.
They just weren't supposed to mean as much as they're starting to, thanks to losing the entire interior of the OL and Newhouse being Newhouse and not Beatty.
Next year, if things don't improve, is when to worry.
He's a 21 year old rookie playing arguably the second most difficult position on the field and you guys are bitching about him playing serviceable, sometimes excellent LT - and pretty much all penalty free - while fighting thru some ankle and lower body issues only missing a handful of snaps.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
He's a 21 year old rookie playing arguably the second most difficult position on the field and you guys are bitching about him playing serviceable, sometimes excellent LT - and pretty much all penalty free - while fighting thru some ankle and lower body issues only missing a handful of snaps.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
Exactly. But I've stopped wasting my time with these guys. robbieballs has acted like Flowers stole his virginity this entire season. Every single week you can count on robbieballs destroying Flowers. Has he been perfect? Nope. But Robbie acts like he's beaten like a drum on every single play. It's out of control. If there is a thread on an offensive lineman, any offensive lineman, Robbie will be sure to stop by to shit on Flowers.
from the games I have seen he has done well for a rookie. he sometimes gets himself beat and will hold like crazy but I see a guy who knowingly needed technique work playing a very difficult position. Some of you lack the patience needed to allow him to grow. Walter Jones he will not be in one season. add to it the line is in flux due to talent or injuries and it will effect his play.
also this isn't the 75-Steelers you're watching so lighten the Fuck up
He's a 21 year old rookie playing arguably the second most difficult position on the field and you guys are bitching about him playing serviceable, sometimes excellent LT - and pretty much all penalty free - while fighting thru some ankle and lower body issues only missing a handful of snaps.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
+1
He's the least of our worries. Sure he's hit a wall, but we have guys who should be changing tires as starting lineman and we're starting threads about Flowers? I feel pretty damn good about him moving forward.
He's a 21 year old rookie playing arguably the second most difficult position on the field and you guys are bitching about him playing serviceable, sometimes excellent LT - and pretty much all penalty free - while fighting thru some ankle and lower body issues only missing a handful of snaps.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
He's regressed since the beginning of the season. I'm not expecting him to be Jonathan Ogden, but I do look for improvement with game experience. I don't know if it's because of injury, him hitting a rookie wall, or team's having tape on him, but it's worrisome.
He has had lapses in several games. But, overall, I think he is playing a decent LT, especially for a rookie. Most of the pressure today didn't come from his man, so I'm not sure about the complaints.
He's a 21 year old rookie playing arguably the second most difficult position on the field and you guys are bitching about him playing serviceable, sometimes excellent LT - and pretty much all penalty free - while fighting thru some ankle and lower body issues only missing a handful of snaps.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
But you are wasting your time...they have an agenda of unhappiness they need to foist on to us.
But seriously, I'm not sure he's an LT - as most prognosticators were predicting.
Bobby Hart at RG. makes a nice young right side.
Next year, if things don't improve, is when to worry.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
Exactly. But I've stopped wasting my time with these guys. robbieballs has acted like Flowers stole his virginity this entire season. Every single week you can count on robbieballs destroying Flowers. Has he been perfect? Nope. But Robbie acts like he's beaten like a drum on every single play. It's out of control. If there is a thread on an offensive lineman, any offensive lineman, Robbie will be sure to stop by to shit on Flowers.
also this isn't the 75-Steelers you're watching so lighten the Fuck up
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
+1
He's the least of our worries. Sure he's hit a wall, but we have guys who should be changing tires as starting lineman and we're starting threads about Flowers? I feel pretty damn good about him moving forward.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
He's regressed since the beginning of the season. I'm not expecting him to be Jonathan Ogden, but I do look for improvement with game experience. I don't know if it's because of injury, him hitting a rookie wall, or team's having tape on him, but it's worrisome.
I really wonder sometimes if some fans actually have clue one of what they're watching or they just make shit up because they're idiots. Some of you guys out yourselves as completely clueless.
But you are wasting your time...they have an agenda of unhappiness they need to foist on to us.