on both sides of the ball. When you step back and look at it, we are under performing over the past few years.
We are towards the bottom in rushing yards per game and only have a handful of games where we reach 100 yards total as a team. Meanwhile, on defense we are not good against the run and also have games where we give up huge running totals.
The sacks are not coming for us and although Eli does a good job of avoiding many of these, the pressure allowed by the O-line is devastating to our ability to pass.
Basically, since our last SB we have been in the bottom half or bottom third in these areas. So, the fact that we have not been competitive should not be a surprise.
Discussions about adding a WR or some other positions are great but they are pointless until we fix our line of scrimmage problems. If we can run the ball and stop the run giving Eli time to throw and putting the opposition in 3rd and long situations, then we will be successful.
Coughlin's first GM here honored that by building the lines.
His successor, however, let them crumble into ruin, and still hasn't replaced them adequately.
Dead in the water, relying on the QB to bail us out every week.
Not a good sustainable gameplan.
yeah I heard Carl say that. My point about all of this is that we have had some bad losses not only this year but over the past few years. In each of them you could look at the fact that we could not run the ball or stop the run effectively in those games and if we could, then we probably would have won the games.
Flowers - rookie growing pains are getting worse
Richburg - Out with high ankle sprain
Swartz - IR
beatty - IR
TE - Donell - out indefinitely
TE- Fells - IR
These are/were our top 7 at TE and OL, after the draft...we are in major trouble
People have been bitching about conservative game plans this season, but it's been obvious McAdoo has been trying to compensate and cover for an OL they didn't believe in -- and now it's been blown completely apart by injuries and there's not much any OC could do about it, given the garbage the team has for back-ups.
If Pugh's concussions don't become career threatening, they do at least have two good pieces on the inside now, between he and Richburg. That's two more building blocks than they had a couple years ago and hopefully Flowers will develop, so he can be a third. It's not entirely as bleak as it once was, even if's not sunny.
LOL,,,, he wasn't getting pushed around because kerrigan didn't even have to make contact with him. Kerrigan was just running right around Newhouse. One play Newhouse just stood there and never even got his hands up kerrigan was already past him. He missed the block entirely. Literally missed the entire block. He's on fucking roller skates out there and then gets beaten.
What does this mean? held up well? We could not run to the point where the coach who preaches balance actually abandoned the run. Then, Eli was under pressure all day too.
The Giants like to keep it in the family. Reese was already part of the Giants family and was being groomed to take this job for years.
What game were you watching? Eli had guys in his grill immediately after the snap. Jerry, Newhouse, and Reynolds are fringe NFL players and Hart is a 20/21 year old kid.
This entire roster is crap outside of a handful of players. And that's 3 years into a rebuild.
...absolutely true.
Dead on.
I think the players are pretty much there, but they have to stay healthy and learn to play as a unit.
If they could just stay healthy and get the experience that they need....
That, to me, is a fireable offense. His neglect cost this team this pivotal game today because instead of bringing in guys with talent when the OL is besieged with injury, we bring in Reynolds, Jerry, and have been forced to play Newhouse. You can fault the defense, Holsey, Eli, Randle, Bromley, etc if you like. To me, the OL lost this game.
Spot on....almost overnight...38% drop and anyone could see it if they were watching. Gone are the days of dismantling that Ravens defense as a clinic on run blocking.
what I fear now out of Reese is that he will begin to double down on receivers and defensive ends again to shape the outcome of games by big plays and and patch the rest, probably knowing he won't be around to repair both sides of the LOS if he attempts to.
I think the players are pretty much there, but they have to stay healthy and learn to play as a unit.
If they could just stay healthy and get the experience that they need....
The only long term answers are Flowers, Pugh, and Richburg. You can't rely on Schwartz, who likely is done with the NYG and we have nothing at RT (Beatty is also a goner). It shouldn't take 4 years to rebuild a team or unit, but somehow Reese has managed to bungle this up where we'll be lucky to have a legit playoff team by 2017.
+1
The last gasp was 2011 and that David Wilson/Randle draft should have been linemen IMO.
Well they rolled the dice this off season on a guy who has panned out for them. We could have used our last pick to grab the guy vs letting him go to free agency
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when your GM doesn't understand the fundamental's of the game of football. What was Johnny thinking with this hire??
The Giants like to keep it in the family. Reese was already part of the Giants family and was being groomed to take this job for years.
Great! So you promote an unqualified family member. Sounds like a great plan. You ever listen to this guy? I wouldn't let him bring me my coffee in the morning.
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Great! So you promote an unqualified family member. Sounds like a great plan. You ever listen to this guy? I wouldn't let him bring me my coffee in the morning.
I dont disagree with you. Just telling you how it is.
Half of BBI does not even know who they are. Still, I think we have a talent issue on both lines.
Now, since you mention coaches. This one for me is a real head scratcher. Why the hell did we get rid of Mike Pope? The guy was considered to potentially be the best TE coach in the game. Look at what has happened to our TE play since he left.
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at Flaherty and Nunn, who have been producing substandard line play for years. it's almost taboo to even mention it.
Half of BBI does not even know who they are. Still, I think we have a talent issue on both lines.
Now, since you mention coaches. This one for me is a real head scratcher. Why the hell did we get rid of Mike Pope? The guy was considered to potentially be the best TE coach in the game. Look at what has happened to our TE play since he left.
We got rid of Pope because we don't need the tight end position. Isn't it evident with who we are putting on the field? Stony Brook ............ha ha ha aah!
I meant more losses than wins.
The guy has been with Coughlin the entire 12 years, of which the first five or so we had pretty damned good lines, no? Especially 2008. I highly doubt he forgot how to coach after that.
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not including Beatty. Geoff Schwartz was a good pickup. All of the offensive linemen are under 30.
I think the players are pretty much there, but they have to stay healthy and learn to play as a unit.
If they could just stay healthy and get the experience that they need....
The only long term answers are Flowers, Pugh, and Richburg. You can't rely on Schwartz, who likely is done with the NYG and we have nothing at RT (Beatty is also a goner). It shouldn't take 4 years to rebuild a team or unit, but somehow Reese has managed to bungle this up where we'll be lucky to have a legit playoff team by 2017.
Well, even if you have three of five above average linemen, getting a couple of decent vets to fill the other spots is not bad. No team has five first or second draft choices.
And what about that guy Bennett that we got from Dallas. Turned into quite a good TE. He's not ours anymore? Jerry let him walk because he wanted too much money? So instead of being set for years at TE, we have to burn draft choices looking, without success, for a replacement?
The guy has been with Coughlin the entire 12 years, of which the first five or so we had pretty damned good lines, no? Especially 2008. I highly doubt he forgot how to coach after that.
all the bodies that Reese brings in, you would think a guru like Flaherty would hit on at least one hidden gem. the truth is, he hasn't coached anybody up in years. he's such a great coach, he needs First and Second round talent to make him look good? I'm actually concerned that Flowers might regress the longer he's influenced by our coaching staff. Flaherty didn't forget how to coach, but his technique may be outdated.