I'm not suggesting that all of their woes are tied to the QB play, but that INT in the end zone down 17-0 in the 3rd just...can't. happen. period.
No offensive momentum whatsoever to that point. Still early enough that any points on that drive would have been a success. On third down, to carelessly stare down the receiver and throw into traffic is just inexcusable. You have 2 INTs already to that point, which the defense more or less overcame. Eli needs to make a better decision there and it's not debateable. That not a mistake that should be happening to someone in their 12th year. Inexusible, and the critical mistake ended up costing them the game. The carelessness will always be a major flaw for #10
When Eli watches the tape, I don't think he'll say, "Rueben screwed up" as much as he'll say, "I should have seen those other guys." Link - ( New Window )
But you're not a 1%er either. I will agree he missed Harris who was wide open. I'm sure a near constant lack of a clean pocket is part of that.
he wasnt running toward the goal post? You sure about that? Have you watched a single replay? I doubt it.
You do realize most slants dont go further than 10 yards downfield, right? Care to explain why he was benched then? With your expertise of the play?
You're right. It closer to 12-13 yards. Carry on though.
No answer on why he was benched yet?
The LOS was the 4 yard line and Randle doesn't cut in until he gets a yard into the end zone.
That isn't a slant. I'll be damned, but it does look like a post because he ran the route poorly.
Thats why the ball is behind him because he ran a deeper pattern than expected. If he runs it crisp and more across the middle, theres a good chance it hits him in stride or more catchable.
Whether it's running the wrong routes or being lazy, such as drifting to the back of the end zone when you have your man beat and the ball is thrown already, are just some of the reasons that I can't wait to not have to watch and root for Randle come next year. Hopefully.
marvin Jones or Rishard Matthews please.
He did a jab step. The 2nd time his outside foot hit he cut to the slant. Adjusted the route around the LB.
He did a jab step. The 2nd time his outside foot hit he cut to the slant. Adjusted the route around the LB.
lol. He just wont stop. everyone else in the world is wrong by KWALL. He still cant answer why he was benched.
He ran the route wrong, lazily, bad, horrible, imprecise.... use whatever adjective you want. He was benched for a reason. Its not the first time he has been benched, and it probably wont be his last time either.
Its ok to admit RR fucked up and move on.
If it wasn't for costing his team points, then why was he benched?
If it wasn't for costing his team points, then why was he benched?
We don't know. You can speculate why Nicks played a series. Perhaps to give Nicks some live reps? Why did he come back after a series? We don't know the answer.
It's on Eli. He had plenty of space to make the throw.
If it wasn't for costing his team points, then why was he benched?
^^^^^^^^Exactly right. He screwed up.....coughlin had him sit a few.
If he is running a slant, and is running around to get around a LB, he is running the route wrong anwyays. But KWALL knows all. Everyone else is wrong. Pat Traina is wrong. Moose Johnston is wrong. Carl Banks is wrong.
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Randle was benched after the play.
If it wasn't for costing his team points, then why was he benched?
We don't know. You can speculate why Nicks played a series. Perhaps to give Nicks some live reps? Why did he come back after a series? We don't know the answer.
I mean,..you can speculate if you want.
It's kinda right in front of you in black and white though.
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Randle was benched after the play.
If it wasn't for costing his team points, then why was he benched?
We don't know. You can speculate why Nicks played a series. Perhaps to give Nicks some live reps? Why did he come back after a series? We don't know the answer.
I mean,..you can speculate if you want.
It's kinda right in front of you in black and white though.
As I said above, it's hardly black and white. Both the route and pass could have been better. Keep speculating if you want.
A fair amount of people here do. Some expert analysts do. Beat writers do. I think its safe to say your on your limb with a few RR supporters.
its ok to be wrong KWALL. I know you like putting up the good fight and never admit when you are wrong.
The second one to Harris? How did Harris get the ball? Blackmon should have intercepted it...it went off his hands to Harris....
Everyone is talking about the route by Randle...if he broke it sharper towards the middle, wouldn't the ball have been farther behind him? If Eli leads him, does it get intercepted? My knock on Randle is his lack of effort to catch it....bad pass....
Who are these expert analysts? I missed all of them ripping the WR and give the QB a pass on the throw.
The third one, people who always absolve RR continue to do so for reasons unknown to man.
That is to the joker known as Dep
I am sorry. Ill take that to my grave. He was open. No one is denying that. What we are saying is that he lets the defender become a factor in the play due to a lazy route at the end.
The shit that is being thrown around here is just ridiculous.
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Randle was benched after the play.
If it wasn't for costing his team points, then why was he benched?
We don't know. You can speculate why Nicks played a series. Perhaps to give Nicks some live reps? Why did he come back after a series? We don't know the answer.
I mean,..you can speculate if you want.
It's kinda right in front of you in black and white though.
As I said above, it's hardly black and white. Both the route and pass could have been better. Keep speculating if you want.
When the commentators, both Tv and Radio, and beat writers all point to it being Randle's fault..and then add the fact that he was benched directly afterwards, it seems pretty obvious.
Could the throw have been better? Maybe.. Looked like the ball was right where it needed to be to me. Randle overran and drifted on his route.
Are you a 1%er?
Colin, it's clear as day that Randle drifts to the back of the endzone on the play.
That was not supposed to be a slant. He ran an in-route and rounded his cut and then drifted away from the ball. It was a shitty run route and if he ran it like he should have it was never in a position to be intercepted. Claiming he ran a slant is ridiculous because that would have been a worse run route then the crappy in route he did run
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Just so KWALL doesn't feel totally alone; I watched the play at least 10 times and it appears pretty clear that RR runs a great plant and slant route and is about as open as an NFL receiver is ever going to be; indeed, it shouldn't have been much more than pitch-and-catch with Eli but the pass is behind him and the rest is history. And the Giants may have in fact 'benched' RR after the play but in his post game presser when he was asked about the play Coughlin simply said 'the receiver was running open in the end zone and the pass was behind him' You can look that up!
Colin, it's clear as day that Randle drifts to the back of the endzone on the play.
Absolutely, that is a shitteir run slant then his crappy in route
The shit that is being thrown around here is just ridiculous.
Someone here knows more about football than 99% of the posters, that's how
The shit that is being thrown around here is just ridiculous.
If that is the case why was he benched for a series then?
He's wide open. QB throws it behind him.
I'm not a Randle fan but he had no time to make any adjustment after ball is thrown. None.
The announce Johnson talked about him coming back to the ball. I say once that ball left Eli's hand he had no time to adjust.
Throw was off target. And no need for it because there was nobody on the other side of Randle.
Thats the thing. No one knows what he ran. He gets open, and then just drifts to no mans land.
The shit that is being thrown around here is just ridiculous.
Eric, by looking at the timing of when Eli threw the pass, right out of Randle's break, you could tell what kind of route Randle was supposed to be running.
Looked like the ball was right where it needed to be to me.
On top of that why would he run a slant when the safety had vacated the middle? An in-route Without drifting away from the ball is the best choice.
Maybe the coach didn't have he chance to see that replay which pretty clearly shows he was wide open and had no chance to adjust.
people will still defend RR.
He's wide open. QB throws it behind him.
I'm not a Randle fan but he had no time to make any adjustment after ball is thrown. None.
The announce Johnson talked about him coming back to the ball. I say once that ball left Eli's hand he had no time to adjust.
Throw was off target. And no need for it because there was nobody on the other side of Randle.
Lol..the LB was 2 yards in front of him on the cut. There was no player he had to adjust to, Your imagining things at this point
He cut at ONE yard. At the 3. He ran the want. Adjusted around the lb. what should he have done at that point? Stop?
Maybe the coach didn't have he chance to see that replay which pretty clearly shows he was wide open and had no chance to adjust.
Do you honestly think an "overreaction" is more likely then a lazy run route? Come on that is absurd