NFT: the Walking Dead show time thread

your Dad's a killer. he gets people killed. it's what he does.

Ha Ha Ha

my thoughts exactly.

one of the worst episodes ends.

how can these writers/directors/producers get, let alone keep, jobs?

The episode was great. I was at edge of my seat.

but c'mon, he's witnessed first hand since then that things are still very much kill or be killed. It's just silly how frigging stupid he behaves towards a guy who's not only from a group of killers, but literally threatened his and everyone else's lives.

If people are unaffected when walker blood and guts spray into their eyes, mouth, open wounds...then why is it imminent death anytime someone gets slightly bitten? It's essentially the same thing.

And God forbid anyone ever falls in this show without getting tramatically injured.

but this was a very disappointing mid-season finale. Nothing happened.

was at least good.

Line of the night setting up the season finale and next season.

"Your property now belongs to Negan"

This season is just like the farm in season two. All set up.
Episode was a snooze fest.

enough with the split seasons already. Every show needs to stop doing this.

Still better than the walking dead I saw in DC today.

He'll guard that W nut job with his life and then body slam Carol?

Then that guy holds the doctor chick with a knife to her throat and two people with guns (one of them military) just lay down their guns? It was point blank range, come on.

And of course there's no way that a little baby would be crying as they all walked out amongst the walkers.

I love the show but this episode was hilariously bad. I'll suspend my belief for this "zombie show" as we all should...but the writing is simply lazy and awful.

but this mid-season finale was garbage.

I didn't watch the preview of the next part so I won't comment on that, just what the episode gave us:

When the wolf took the dr out the door... did he not see all the walkers?

They walk downstairs covered in walker blood and none of them are trying to break through the couch up the stairs, they just walk out?

I think it was a lot of nothing trying to build up the need to find out what happens to each of the characters but it just didn't make me buy in.

Also, that little kid at the end was so predictable.

/rant over

Hi Fekker!

In comment 12651777 PhiPsi125 said:

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If people are unaffected when walker blood and guts spray into their eyes, mouth, open wounds...then why is it imminent death anytime someone gets slightly bitten? It's essentially the same thing. And God forbid anyone ever falls in this show without getting tramatically injured.

I think this all the time. Lol

And I've felt this season has had a few very good episodes but the mid-season finale was really bad.

You spend the entire episode showing that Sam is broken, yet the only pay off for this is that he starts calling his mom's name? Did we really need a cliffhanger to show that Sam is going to get himself, and probably his mom, killed?

Deanna can't hit a walker point blank, but now that she's near death, she's a crack shot?

The wolf has a knife to Denise's throat, so both Rosita and Tara give up their guns while a point blank headshot neutralized the threat instantly?

Daryl is calling on the radio, but nobody tries to contact him when they're in the garage?

The only good part was the Season 6b tease with Negan mentioned. Yet they have to bury the tease in the middle of their next show. Hey AMC, I don't give a fuck about Into the Badlands! Not my kind of show!

"Look, I get it. My dad killed your dad. But there's one thing you have to understand. Your dad was an asshole."

In comment 12652106 Bramton1 said:

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"Look, I get it. My dad killed your dad. But there's one thing you have to understand. Your dad was an asshole."

Hahaha most ridiculous moment of Carl's existence (and that's saying something). Quite the diffuser of tense feelings.

If they have an episode on this show where every character under the age of 20 gets eaten alive, I might have to rub one out.

In comment 12651706 Mad Mike said:

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but c'mon, he's witnessed first hand since then that things are still very much kill or be killed. It's just silly how frigging stupid he behaves towards a guy who's not only from a group of killers, but literally threatened his and everyone else's lives.

There is a hole in his zen logic, an arrogance in assuming that his situation and recovery applies to everyone else. As much as I watch this show now to make fun of it, I really wish they could just stop beating us over the head with the same tired themes and just go straight tense, somewhat realistic survival mode.

I cheated and looked him up a while ago. Color me unimpressed. Its not exactly taking the sbow someplace it hasn't already been.

But still enjoyed it. Some suspenseful parts. Not sure why Darryl and team did not have an RPG ready and just blast the bikers.

And, not to offend a few of you, Glenn has turned into the biggest wuss/most annoying character on the show

classic Rick moment:
He tells Deanna "you know, we can't leave you alone?". then promptly leaves her alone.

and, the nerdy wuss reading by the light of his zippo while full sunlight is streaming in the windows. uh, simply readjust and sit in the sunlight, and save the lighter for lighting fires.

and, after wondering for days how to get outside the compound without drawing the attention of walkers, Rick remembers the cover yourself in guts trick.

4 episodes have been after such a promising first 4 episodes of this season. They dug themselves out of a hole and got back to being a decent show that looked like it moved on from a lot of the bad to going right back into the dumpster.

Not even going to bother getting excited for February. I'll watch to see what happens but I can't imagine it will be any better.

In comment 12652175 fkap said:

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and, after wondering for days how to get outside the compound without drawing the attention of walkers, Rick remembers the cover yourself in guts trick.

That to me was the best part. For the last two weeks Rick has been trying to figure out how to get past the walkers. Suddenly when he is trapped upstairs, he just calmly mentions he knows how to walk right past the walkers because he has done it before.

The writing on this show is comedy gold!

in the first scene?

And what were they munching on?

In comment 12652869 ron mexico said:

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in the first scene? And what were they munching on?

I think they symbolized the walkers and it was one of Carol's cookies that Sam likes so much. Probably foreshadowing Sam's fate if I had to guess.

In comment 12652879 Kuhn and Friends said:

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In comment 12652869 ron mexico said: Quote: in the first scene? And what were they munching on? I think they symbolized the walkers and it was one of Carol's cookies that Sam likes so much. Probably foreshadowing Sam's fate if I had to guess.

It was about as subtle as a jackhammer.

How about a few leave and draw away the others? Why are some zombies content to wipe the glass with their hands and some like to punch through?
What ten year old listens to "Tiptoe through the tulips" over and over and over again?

Wtf?

I might be able to find it online in the web library (ie youtube). I'm guessing not many folk younger than me even know there's such a song.

in a post apocalyptic world, in a brand new community (most houses aren't finished being painted), yeah, sure. was the record stuck on replay, or was it just a stupid show gimmick?

and another laugher moment (ongoing for the whole season): the lawns are still manicured. I could accept that, because maybe it's a low growth specie of grass. But.... the trees were all nicely edged and mulched. Don't bother growing food. but keep the lawns kept up.

and, there seems to be only about 10 or less Alexandrians. The idea is that there's some big enclave, but there's no population. sheesh. the show spent more money on the almost identical governor town extras. (they really need to rename this show Shampoo: lather, rinse, repeat)

Alexandria should have been a season one scenario. It's unreasonable to have such a scenario after two years of the apocalypse.

Where is it now when they're using hammer and nails?

Plus the writers have no idea how solar panels work. Apparently they all have plenty of 120 electric available and I'm assuming natural gas to run their stoves and lights.

I'm assuming they used tiptoe through the tulips because it's in the public domain and thus free.

So much bad stuff going on. For me, zombies are ridiculous. They die with a random puncture through any part of their soft skulls and their flesh is rotting but their teeth and nails are razor sharp and held firmly enough in place by said rotting flesh that they can tear through coats and pants.

For me, the zombies exist as an existential threat that's out there to affect behaviour in this crazy world, it's when and how they portray them that always ruins it for me.

equipment in use by the Alexandrians when Rick's group first showed up. It was a set up to show how scared the Alexandrians were whenever Walkers showed up. Not quite sure why they were, after 2 years, deciding to expand. there doesn't seem to be any population in Alexandria, and there's plenty of lawn space for gardening within the confines. they could've used it to knock down a decrepit burnt out building right next to the fence, and saved themselves a lot of grief, but the sum total of Alexandria was a congresswoman, her construction foreman husband, a loser son, a hairdresser and her abusive hubby, a couple of hairbrained teenagers, a few twenty something idiots who died off rapidly after Rick showed up, and a med student turned resident doctor. maybe one or two extras who are seen but not heard. all in all, maybe half a brain between them all. Not enough for the preacher to have to post a dozen fliers all around town for a prayer meeting (last week). I guess they spent all their budget on walkers, and couldn't afford living folk to mill around.

But anyhow, they had construction equipment.

and, yes, the use of walkers is completely random and inconsistent. some are so decayed they can't support their own weight, but they're strong enough to overpower Maggie (a week or two ago in the sewer).

In past seasons, when the group has gone "invisible" by using zombie blood\guts to mask their own scents, they covered up their entire body and covered their face.

Now, all they did was cover up a few blankets\towel ponchos with blood? Nothing covered up on their faces. It's not like they wouldn't sweat on their foreheads or neck to attract the walkers?

If just a small sample of zombie blood is enough to mask your scent, why not use them EVERY time they leave the safety of the walls?

I enjoy the show and a big fan. I suspend ALOT of belief for the sake of enjoying this show. I'm just not a fan of lazy writing and if they establish "rules" for the show, as a viewer, all I'm asking if for them to be consistent on those rules going forward.

PhiPsi125 said:

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If people are unaffected when walker blood and guts spray into their eyes, mouth, open wounds...then why is it imminent death anytime someone gets slightly bitten? It's essentially the same thing.

My understanding is that everyone is infected and the zombie's bite itself is not the cause of turning someone. The bite instead leads to an infection that eventually leads to death and then the eventual turn into a walker.

With the show establishing that, I look at them getting walker blood on them as non-threatening, since they can eventually wash it off later on.

On the other hand, the zombie bite will eventually become infected and isn't something you can wash off. That's why we've seen several times on the show, people cutting off parts of an arm or leg that's been bitten to prevent the infection spreading to the rest of the body.

when Michonne was introduced, it was enough for her to be in the presence of her two chained walkers. nevermind that if you're in a crowd of walkers, you should thus be invisible. why wouldn't you employ this tactic (keeping a chained walker) at all times? It's just lazy (or inept) writing. Once you introduce a device, especially so critical, you need to keep with it. If you don't want the device to be readily available, don't introduce it. Not everything has to make sense, but it should be consistent.

fkap said:

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when Michonne was introduced, it was enough for her to be in the presence of her two chained walkers. nevermind that if you're in a crowd of walkers, you should thus be invisible. why wouldn't you employ this tactic (keeping a chained walker) at all times? It's just lazy (or inept) writing. Once you introduce a device, especially so critical, you need to keep with it. If you don't want the device to be readily available, don't introduce it. Not everything has to make sense, but it should be consistent.

Michonne being in the presence of her two chained walkers isn't what made her invisible. I believe the time she spend with them, then month after month of eating, sleeping and walking with them, got her scent masked by them.

I don't think she'd be invisible from day one if she tried that again. It would take several months of her being around them, for her scent to be masked again like it was when she was first introduced.

annoying (yeah, that narrows it down), saved by Michonne in her first appearance, slept with the guv, ended up dying when the guv locked her in with a soon to be walker,

employed the trick when traveling between the guv's town to the prison. She didn't spend months acclimating.

Fecker's head is going to explode when he reads this thread. I wish we could have a Walkkng Dead BBI viewing party with running commentary a la MST3K.

In comment 12653838 Chris in Philly said:

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Fecker's head is going to explode when he reads this thread. I wish we could have a Walkkng Dead BBI viewing party with running commentary a la MST3K.

Haha... touche.

And I agree.. crappy installment.

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I cheated and looked him up a while ago. Color me unimpressed. Its not exactly taking the sbow someplace it hasn't already been.

Since they already mentioned him on the show this week and without trying to give away any spoilers.....but Negan makes the Governor look like a cupcake. He's the badass villain this show needs who'll go toe to toe with Rick.

Even like the casting with Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who was good in the Watchmen movie and playing John Winchester on Supernatural. I linked a YouTube video below where he talks about being cast as Negan.
link - ( New Window )

But he won't make his debyt until April 3rd. In the season finale of our current season.

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In comment 12654060 Canton said:

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But he won't make his debyt until April 3rd. In the season finale of our current season.

Is that true? Another entire half season before they introduce the next antagonist? And I thought the first half of the season was filler...

In comment 12652105 Bramton1 said:

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You spend the entire episode showing that Sam is broken, yet the only pay off for this is that he starts calling his mom's name? Did we really need a cliffhanger to show that Sam is going to get himself, and probably his mom, killed? Deanna can't hit a walker point blank, but now that she's near death, she's a crack shot? The wolf has a knife to Denise's throat, so both Rosita and Tara give up their guns while a point blank headshot neutralized the threat instantly? Daryl is calling on the radio, but nobody tries to contact him when they're in the garage? The only good part was the Season 6b tease with Negan mentioned. Yet they have to bury the tease in the middle of their next show. Hey AMC, I don't give a fuck about Into the Badlands! Not my kind of show!

Agreed.

Don't forget that they run in the house and tell the kid to turn off the music...close the door on him...and we hear the music keep playing throughout the episode.

Worst episode of the season BY FAR.

Jason Alexander was calling for the kid to be ganked on the Talking Dead.

Asking the audience to suspend their belief is one thing but asking them to accept the entire cast of characters acting like they are the zombies is another.

I really hope the second half of the season is more like the season opener.

I really like it, beautifully shot and excellent fight scenes. The storyline has to develop a little faster, since AMC only game them a 6 episode season, so only 3 episodes left.

In comment 12652105 Bramton1 said:

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You spend the entire episode showing that Sam is broken, yet the only pay off for this is that he starts calling his mom's name? Did we really need a cliffhanger to show that Sam is going to get himself, and probably his mom, killed? Deanna can't hit a walker point blank, but now that she's near death, she's a crack shot? The wolf has a knife to Denise's throat, so both Rosita and Tara give up their guns while a point blank headshot neutralized the threat instantly? Daryl is calling on the radio, but nobody tries to contact him when they're in the garage? The only good part was the Season 6b tease with Negan mentioned. Yet they have to bury the tease in the middle of their next show. Hey AMC, I don't give a fuck about Into the Badlands! Not my kind of show!

I'll take it a step further...

The Wolves indiscrimenantly kill everything that moves... so then when they all oddly give their guns up as you alluded to, why the hell doesn't he just pop everyone in the room?

is it anything more than cheesy John Woo style fight scenes? It may be nicely shot, but all I've seen is Saturday morning kung fu theatre, medieval times set in something resembling the wild west. I'm guessing that there's a plot line, mostly revolving around giving an excuse for nicely shot fight scenes and cool, but unlikely body twisting/gyrations.

fkap said:

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is it anything more than cheesy John Woo style fight scenes? It may be nicely shot, but all I've seen is Saturday morning kung fu theatre, medieval times set in something resembling the wild west. I'm guessing that there's a plot line, mostly revolving around giving an excuse for nicely shot fight scenes and cool, but unlikely body twisting/gyrations.

I like it so far. Decent story line so far set in a post apocalyptic world where there are no guns. Seems to have some aspects of a supernatural world too.

It's only been 3 episodes and ratings (6.4 first episode and 4.8 second) have been very solid with having the Walking Dead lead into it. Biggest effect to those numbers will be what type of ratings will it now do without the WD helping their numbers. Hopefully AMC will give the series a chance to develop their storyline better by picking up the second season for the series.

but the story is weak and the fight scenes (stylish perhaps even artistic)) are monotonous.