Giants need to win against Minnesota.

let alone all 5.....they are just as bad as us

I have a hard time looking at our schedule and seeing a win.

In comment 12652192 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:

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I have a hard time looking at our schedule and seeing a win.

Predicting who is going to win games in the NFC East is as tough as naming a song with earplugs in your ears

and they played like a bunch of scared bitches. Seasons fucked.

Giants like chicken shits against teams with good records, remember? You know that

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Giants have too many issues.

That, unless we go 4-1 the rest of the way, we are not going to the playoffs. Again. And this one hurts because the division is so bad. If we couldn't get there this year, when exactly will we? It won't be 2016 when we have home games vs Chicago (who is probably a hair better than us), Cincinnati, Atlanta or Tampa (who are at our level or slightly better)and road games at GB, Seattle, Minnesota, and Pittsburgh. That's likely 5-7 losses just from those games. Factor in our 3/4 losses per usual in the division and 2016 looks like another 6-10 to 8-8 disappointment. The movie never ends, it goes on and on and on....

Agree that not winning division this season would be disappointing. But writing off 2016 now!

Really?

Absolutely. We have no chance in 2016. We will lose 6 of our road games for sure (Philly, Dallas, GB, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Seattle) leaving us with wins in Cleveland and maybe Washington. We're going to lose to the Bengals at home. That's 7 highly likely losses. Do we run the table at home vs Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta/Tampa, Dallas, Redskins, and Philly? I don't think so. And remember, this franchise hasn't been 2 games above .500 at any point in a season since finishing 9-7 in 2012.

Just win the next game.

Holy hell this stuff is ridiculous. A lot of good worrying about and rooting against Philly and Dallas on Thanksgiving did... win your own games, and let the cards fall as they may.

so damn bad.

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Just win the next game. Holy hell this stuff is ridiculous. A lot of good worrying about and rooting against Philly and Dallas on Thanksgiving did... win your own games, and let the cards fall as they may.

This....we can't even get out of our way.

Whatever happens, happens.

but I don't see how this is true. Seattle, Atlanta, and Minnesota all have winning records...from what I can tell the Giants could miss the playoffs at 10-6.

In comment 12652269 jogo1 said:

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but I don't see how this is true. Seattle, Atlanta, and Minnesota all have winning records...from what I can tell the Giants could miss the playoffs at 10-6.

If they finish 4-1 and miss the playoffs at 10-6, then you suck it up and move on. That's what happens when you lose control of your own destiny as we did yesterday. But, that being said, they're not going 4-1 down the stretch.

In comment 12652285 The_Boss said:

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In comment 12652269 jogo1 said: Quote: but I don't see how this is true. Seattle, Atlanta, and Minnesota all have winning records...from what I can tell the Giants could miss the playoffs at 10-6. If they finish 4-1 and miss the playoffs at 10-6, then you suck it up and move on. That's what happens when you lose control of your own destiny as we did yesterday. But, that being said, they're not going 4-1 down the stretch.

Sorry. 5-0. That's not happening.

a 5-6 team wins 4 out of 5, and all the teams ahead of them, lose their games...

For example, Giants go 4-1, and beat Minn, while Minn goes 1-4, Giants get the tiebreaker......and what are the odds of the Giants going 4-1, never mind Minn going 1-4?

The Giants controlled their own destiny, until yesterday....that loss was a two game swing....now they have to count on others to lose, for them to reach the one and done sweepstakes........

Its nice but it will be one and done. This isn't 2007 or 2011. There is no Strahan Osi Tuck.

In comment 12652300 Doomster said:

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The Giants controlled their own destiny, until yesterday....that loss was a two game swing....now they have to count on others to lose, for them to reach the one and done sweepstakes........

You can't control your own destiny. That's the whole definition of destiny.

Worry about the next game. This is not a good team.

There are a lot of teams in the NFL straining to reach the upper level of mediocrity, and we are one of them. But not a lot separates us from some of the better teams. Anything can happen in the next five games and I will remain optomistic/delusional.

In comment 12652222 The_Boss said:

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Absolutely. We have no chance in 2016. We will lose 6 of our road games for sure (Philly, Dallas, GB, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Seattle) leaving us with wins in Cleveland and maybe Washington. We're going to lose to the Bengals at home. That's 7 highly likely losses.

#1 seed in the Eastern Regional bracket, folks.

What are your thoughts on 2017? We go to Denver, will Osweiler be up to speed by then? Can Eli finally beat Rivers?

In comment 12652471 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 12652222 The_Boss said: Quote: Absolutely. We have no chance in 2016. We will lose 6 of our road games for sure (Philly, Dallas, GB, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Seattle) leaving us with wins in Cleveland and maybe Washington. We're going to lose to the Bengals at home. That's 7 highly likely losses. #1 seed in the Eastern Regional bracket, folks. What are your thoughts on 2017? We go to Denver, will Osweiler be up to speed by then? Can Eli finally beat Rivers?

So you're confident this group is going to buck 2 long term disturbing trends next year: win more than 3 games in this division AND beat quality opponents, of which there are in spades in 2016? I only mention 2016 because the ongoing theme this calendar year was to have a team that can win the East/secure a playoff spot in the 2016 season. That's not happening.

and still win the division given this scenario (showing division teams winning out of division games as a worst case scenario, if they were to lose those games, all the better):
NFCE teams winning, Giants 3-2, win division - ( New Window )

In comment 12652222 The_Boss said:

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Absolutely. We have no chance in 2016. We will lose 6 of our road games for sure (Philly, Dallas, GB, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Seattle) leaving us with wins in Cleveland and maybe Washington. We're going to lose to the Bengals at home. That's 7 highly likely losses. Do we run the table at home vs Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta/Tampa, Dallas, Redskins, and Philly? I don't think so. And remember, this franchise hasn't been 2 games above .500 at any point in a season since finishing 9-7 in 2012.

Dude, you're so far off. Just stop....you had the Eagles at 7-4 at one point this year. How did that work out? And now you are predicting what 2016 looks like? You already know how other teams will look in the future, and on top of that, when we actually play them.

Give it a rest.

In comment 12652300 Doomster said:

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a 5-6 team wins 4 out of 5, and all the teams ahead of them, lose their games... For example, Giants go 4-1, and beat Minn, while Minn goes 1-4, Giants get the tiebreaker......and what are the odds of the Giants going 4-1, never mind Minn going 1-4? The Giants controlled their own destiny, until yesterday....that loss was a two game swing....now they have to count on others to lose, for them to reach the one and done sweepstakes........

Exactly. Minny isn't going 1-4. They have a solid club, esp on the defensive side of the ball.

In comment 12652696 BillKo said:

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In comment 12652222 The_Boss said: Quote: Absolutely. We have no chance in 2016. We will lose 6 of our road games for sure (Philly, Dallas, GB, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Seattle) leaving us with wins in Cleveland and maybe Washington. We're going to lose to the Bengals at home. That's 7 highly likely losses. Do we run the table at home vs Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta/Tampa, Dallas, Redskins, and Philly? I don't think so. And remember, this franchise hasn't been 2 games above .500 at any point in a season since finishing 9-7 in 2012. Dude, you're so far off. Just stop....you had the Eagles at 7-4 at one point this year. How did that work out? And now you are predicting what 2016 looks like? You already know how other teams will look in the future, and on top of that, when we actually play them. Give it a rest.

Don't like what I'm saying then don't reply. I'm not betting my mortgage that 2016 is going to be a playoff season. The reality is the 2016 schedule is filled with teams that have been and continue to be better than we are. Our record vs those teams is dismal. Sans us crushing the draft and FA, not much is going to change. And we are so talent deficient, even that might not be enough. If you think we are winning any other road game aside from Cleveland and maybe Washington and are doing better in the division than our customary 2/3 wins, then I have some ocean front property to sell you in Utah.

In comment 12652827 The_Boss said:

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In comment 12652696 BillKo said: Quote: In comment 12652222 The_Boss said: Quote: Absolutely. We have no chance in 2016. We will lose 6 of our road games for sure (Philly, Dallas, GB, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Seattle) leaving us with wins in Cleveland and maybe Washington. We're going to lose to the Bengals at home. That's 7 highly likely losses. Do we run the table at home vs Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta/Tampa, Dallas, Redskins, and Philly? I don't think so. And remember, this franchise hasn't been 2 games above .500 at any point in a season since finishing 9-7 in 2012. Dude, you're so far off. Just stop....you had the Eagles at 7-4 at one point this year. How did that work out? And now you are predicting what 2016 looks like? You already know how other teams will look in the future, and on top of that, when we actually play them. Give it a rest. Don't like what I'm saying then don't reply. I'm not betting my mortgage that 2016 is going to be a playoff season. The reality is the 2016 schedule is filled with teams that have been and continue to be better than we are. Our record vs those teams is dismal. Sans us crushing the draft and FA, not much is going to change. And we are so talent deficient, even that might not be enough. If you think we are winning any other road game aside from Cleveland and maybe Washington and are doing better in the division than our customary 2/3 wins, then I have some ocean front property to sell you in Utah.

Apparently, you're an oracle.

First you had Philly winning the division easily. Then the last two weeks you had us basically coasting.

Now you're writing off.......2016??

Get a grip.

It is impossible to predict what the Giants or any other team will look like next season. There are far too many variables, free agency, coaching changes, the draft, injuries. Predicting outcomes this far in advance is folly, but par for the course for you.