It's 1000% a talent problem.

It's a talent problem.

the thread police Giants2012 might come in here and tell you to put it in the gamethread.

its been this way since 2013.

But those are not examples of a talent problem. All those guys are plenty talented. It's an execution problem or a head problem.

These are lapses in concentration not exposure of talent.

You can't make this shit up.

Have to.

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In comment 12697576 Mason said:

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You can't make this shit up.

Yay stats. Glad they made the pro bowl.

it actually contradicts itself. This is a not so subtle shot at Reese from Club Tommy.

let's not act like there hasn't been bad coaching decisions late in these games.

Its the mistakes that are killing us, and that isn't talent.

In comment 12697601 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 12697576 Mason said: Quote: You can't make this shit up. Yay stats. Glad they made the pro bowl.

Stats have nothing to do with how talented Beckham or DRC are.

and I agree that we are talent deficient, but then you cite a Beckham drop and a DRC drop... Are you suggesting those 2 players are talent deficient? Beckham is among the most talent receivers in the league.

is indicative of a coaching problem.

but even though I do agree they need an upgrade in talent more than a new coach he is hardly a good example of lack of talent.

Get Tom Coughlin's dick out of your mouth and realize that he's been shit this season too.

They lack talent and the talent they do have is fucking up, players are poorly coached and dumb as fuck all on their own.

No one deserves a pass.

In comment 12697615 PatersonPlank said:

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Its the mistakes that are killing us, and that isn't talent.

What game are you watching?

The mistakes highlight the fact that our talent is overmatched.

we're leaving points on the board on plays that are usually gimme's against the best team in the league.

How many dropped pick 6's for DRC?

All in a critical past four game stretch.

Yes, they are talented, but my point is, if that's the best we've got, they have to make those plays.

We lack talent everywhere, and if they are the best we've got, they have to capitalize. They didn't/haven't. And continue not to.

to me that people think Reese deserves to keep his job with the talent on this team

In comment 12697648 Patrick77 said:

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In comment 12697615 PatersonPlank said: Quote: Its the mistakes that are killing us, and that isn't talent. What game are you watching? The mistakes highlight the fact that our talent is overmatched.

What's overmatched about dropping a wide open TD and pick 6?

In comment 12697645 Devon said:

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Get Tom Coughlin's dick out of your mouth and realize that he's been shit this season too. They lack talent and the talent they do have is fucking up, players are poorly coached and dumb as fuck all on their own. No one deserves a pass.

Thank you. I couldn't have said it any better myself.

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he's clearly worthless because he had a drop

so sick of this team. Reese has been awful. Britt- you are suggesting hiring a new GM and forcing him to keep a 70 year old coach who hasn't made the playoffs in 4 straight seasons?

Clean house.

you act like a child when logic refutes the premise of your thread.

Three fucking plays.

You talk about sucking dick? You're sucking pro bowl dick.

In comment 12697662 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 12697648 Patrick77 said: Quote: In comment 12697615 PatersonPlank said: Quote: Its the mistakes that are killing us, and that isn't talent. What game are you watching? The mistakes highlight the fact that our talent is overmatched. What's overmatched about dropping a wide open TD and pick 6?

So those two are mental screw ups....

This team is overmatched. 21-7 before half. On pace for a blowout. And the panthers get the ball back to start the first.

In comment 12697721 jgambrosio said:

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he's clearly worthless because he had a drop

I'm not saying that. I'm saying how can you pin this on the coach?

either total overhaul or stay the course.

In comment 12697735 Patrick77 said:

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In comment 12697662 Britt in VA said: Quote: In comment 12697648 Patrick77 said: Quote: In comment 12697615 PatersonPlank said: Quote: Its the mistakes that are killing us, and that isn't talent. What game are you watching? The mistakes highlight the fact that our talent is overmatched. What's overmatched about dropping a wide open TD and pick 6? So those two are mental screw ups.... This team is overmatched. 21-7 before half. On pace for a blowout. And the panthers get the ball back to start the first.

And if those three plays are made, it's a WAY different story.

You putting that on coaching?

Maybe even 1000000%?

before shoveling dirt.

than a lack of talent. Beckham and DRC are a couple of the more talented guys in the league. They're just fucking things up.

But I can name bad coaching decisions in this game. Not going for it on 4th and 1, running stupid plays on third down that are far short of the marker, not taking Dahl out when he's involved in every TD the Panthers get. It's a talent and a coaching issue. Stop trying to pick sides. It takes both to be this bad.

Those are straight fucking drops.

All three.

Reese and TC both need to go.

Having OBJ running around like a punk retard throwing punches shows you that TC Isn't controlling this team like he should be.

the Tyree catch was a stroke of genius from Coughlin.

and left the half down an additional 7 pts and had all 3 timeouts in their pocket.

That's coaching.

Are you guys happy that we blew leads? I mean, the fact that we had leads is a testament to how well Coughlin is doing with such little talent, right? Seems like the fact that we've blown leads instead of being blown out means that Tom Coughlin is doing an excellent job given the lack of talent on this team.

To the airport if they can his ass! Smug and arrogant fool

ARE
NOT
MAKING
PLAYS.

Call it what you want.

The plays are there to be made. They are not being made.

The talent on the team has been awful.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: unless we make the playoffs AND get past the first round, Coach Coughlin and General Manager Reese should not be brought back.

New regime. New everything.

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and left the half down an additional 7 pts and had all 3 timeouts in their pocket. That's coaching.

I don't follow. Do you think Coughlin should always use timeouts since you can't carry them over?

Since the Jennings fumble the panthers have skull fucked the Giants without mercy. So how do the timeouts change that?

In comment 12697780 Britt in VA said:

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Those are straight fucking drops. All three.

A drop is a mistake. What's your argument? That Beckham and DRC aren't talented enough? This team probably has 3 wins without Beckham. All teams have drops.

Again, the coaching staff has made plenty of blunders this season and this game. I'm not sure why some people choose to ignore that. It can be both a talent and a coaching issue.

It's not clock management. It's a failure of the players to execute and that is on them and Jerry Reese

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ARE NOT MAKING PLAYS. Call it what you want. The plays are there to be made. They are not being made.

Today, yes, you're right, they're not making plays. However, it's not like the plays not being made are by a scrub WR and a scrub CB. It's Odell Beckham Jr. and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

In comment 12697823 GiantFilthy said:

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Talent is the problem. If they fire the coach who's job it is to help pick the talent on this team it's a mistake. - Britt

Haha, Tom Coughlin picks that talent? Then what is Jerry Reese? A puppet?

easily find a coach that will be a better HC than he is. However I don't really have a problem with those that believe that it is time for a change. What I don't get is those that wants to fire TC yet keep Reese.

If they fire TC then please bring in a new GM as well and lets get a fresh set of eyes looking at the entire organization. I true fresh start.