Is Randle playing for a contract this game....

He isn't strong at the point of attack. He is constantly in the dog house. Whether he is hurt or not he has not been what we expected when we drafted him. He is JAG. Forget the incentive laden deal. We need more production out of the position and I don't want him clogging up the depth chart prevent a guy like Geremy Davis from getting reps.

In comment 12711389 robbieballs2003 said:

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He isn't strong at the point of attack. He is constantly in the dog house. Whether he is hurt or not he has not been what we expected when we drafted him. He is JAG. Forget the incentive laden deal. We need more production out of the position and I don't want him clogging up the depth chart prevent a guy like Geremy Davis from getting reps.

We know something about Randle when his wheels are in good shape..I think he's more than JAG imv..May not be a 3 mill guy as I guestimated, but he's still young and he's still talented imo..We know nothing about Geremy Davis..The Giants, PT-wise, probably don't know all that much either

Randle will get a 3 year deal on the open market. He's not an awful player, he's a small step below good. I don't want the Giants to invest more in him, but the notion he's a terrible player and a vet minimum guy is laughable.

We know nothing about Geremy Davis. And why is that?

We know enough about Randle. You say he is talented. Why? What has he shown you other than being drafted in the second round?

For one game, dominate your opponent like you've never done before!

Giants will not offer him a multi-year deal with a lot of guaranteed money, so he will go somewhere else. He'll get cut after two years and then wind up back with Giants.

He has had a lot of good WR's through the years.
Who does he want to throw to?
RR's contract won't be an impediment, his relationship with Manning through 3 years makes him a keeper or a goner....frankly Manning's input will sway what to offer him...Eli...you want him or not?

the grass is always greener right?
But who are we to say

Fagetaboutit

Bye


Lefty and Donnie talking Rueben Randle - ( New Window )

will have zero interest in re-signing him

at MOST.

But yeah, he's another of Jerry Reach-around's kids.

problem is he's never at his best. the league is littered with average receivers. imho he was drafted to take the role of Mario Manningham, a guy who can make plays or need be step up to a starring role in case of injury. Randle is none of these, whether it's lack of talent, no desire or injury he's not worth investing more time and money into. rather draft someone in the third round round

Guy is awful

He was supposed to be playing for a new damn contract all season long but never really showed up or tried. He came out and whines he wasn't getting the looks, but he also wasn't getting open outside the 1st Redskins game.

He hasn't shown anything to earn a new contract, and 1 good game won't help his situation.

Eli has gone to him in clutch situations on 3rd down, and he has failed.....he is a drive killer.....he has never been a receiver that fights for the ball....those "manageable knees" are no longer manageable....

300 yards receiving. I've seen enough to know he is capable of having good games, but that he will not be reliable.

Another early round draft pick that won't be worthy of a second contract.

based on one game.

And the contract he will likely get will be with another team.

The Giants should reallocate what they would have spent on him to another WR. Cincinnati has 2 free agent WR, one Sanu, went to Rutgers and would be a better use of the money.

While Randle has a higher ceiling athletically, he has never come close to consistently being great. He's caused Eli's interception numbers to be high during his tenure.

Time to say thanks and move on regardless of how he finishes the year.

The current coaching staff may have become disenchanted, but if there is a new coach/GM then Randle may have another opportunity to return.

In comment 12711659 DavidinBMNY said:

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And the contract he will likely get will be with another team. The Giants should reallocate what they would have spent on him to another WR. Cincinnati has 2 free agent WR, one Sanu, went to Rutgers and would be a better use of the money. While Randle has a higher ceiling athletically, he has never come close to consistently being great. He's caused Eli's interception numbers to be high during his tenure. Time to say thanks and move on regardless of how he finishes the year.

Sanu is a YAC machine and would be a perfect fit for the McAdoo offensive system. He can also play X,Y or Z WR spots.

Randle has been one of the worst receivers in the NFL the past few years in YAC stats and is just not a good fit in a WCO system.

Guy is 24 years old, plays every game, has the highest catch pct on the team, caught 70 passes last season and will catch 60 this season along with 6 or 7 td's and you want to dump him? Please.

Enjoy the off injured 30 catch receiver we will end up with instead.

Just not with the Giants!

Yeah, Randle is young, but he's no better today than he was as a rookie. So why not just draft a rookie on day two who can come in and already be better than Randle? If the Giants had drafted Lockett or Montgomery in round three they would've already passed Randle on the depth chart.

that Marvin Jones would also be a nice upgrade over RR and both Bengal receivers are free agents this year. Take your pick, actually Jones is the best vertical threat of the bunch and is also a good YAC WR.

Maybe those injuries could be a sign of things to come? Things he's been able to overcome but may indicative of a chronic issue?

In comment 12711380 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 12711354 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: In comment 12711350 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: he will get more than the Vet minimum.. I'd be ok with a 3 year $10-12 million contract with incentives included..I, as a fan, am not ready to give up on him yet, especially if his knee is not viewed as a chronic condition moving forward.. You'd pay him 3-4 million per year? Really? Closer to 3 but incentive laden..The guy's only going to be 25 in May..He's got talent, brainfarts and all..I'd re-sign him and still go after a #2 with some of the Cruz money if in fact he's let go..

Your last point is an interesting and important one. Will the Giants actually let Cruz go?

They let Cruz go and then are also so inclined to not re-sign Randle, they go into the off season with OBJ, Haris, and then untested young guys. Harris, as well as he played this year, is not a #2 guy. WR went from a strength to a weakness, thanks in large part to Cruz calf and Randle's inconsistency.

He's only 24. But this is his 4th season & there are still questions surrounding how much effort he puts into his craft. We don't need those type of players. He goes invisible for long stretches of the game. With VC out, this was his season to really step up & earn some money. He's failed spectacularly.

I don't think there are too many people here who think Randle is not talented. His problems have been consistency, the mental part of the game, and lack of physicality. He has shown ability in each season and has had a few big games. He also seems to make a play just when everyone is set to give up on him. But, he also comes up small when we have relied on him and his incorrect routes, lack of fighting for balls, etc. have caused more than his fair share of INTs over the last few years.

In comment 12711800 Matt M. said:

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They let Cruz go and then are also so inclined to not re-sign Randle, they go into the off season with OBJ, Haris, and then untested young guys. Harris, as well as he played this year, is not a #2 guy. WR went from a strength to a weakness, thanks in large part to Cruz calf and Randle's inconsistency.

Hey Matt..No idea about Cruz..He's collected a ton of money with nothing to show for it for almost 2 full seasons now..My understanding is that he's due a big number this year..What I think is that he will have to take a pretty big pay cut or restructure if he wants to stay..I believe that will get worked out but ONLY if he's finally and physically ready to go

In comment 12711686 HomerJones45 said:

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Guy is 24 years old, plays every game, has the highest catch pct on the team, caught 70 passes last season and will catch 60 this season along with 6 or 7 td's and you want to dump him? Please. Enjoy the off injured 30 catch receiver we will end up with instead.

To ME, keeping him as a number 3 is a no-brainer, warts and all..We can draft another WR to compete for PT along with Davis

Randle isn't it. There are some very good options in free agency. Players that are clearly more athletic, explosive and productive than RR. We have the cap room to make a move in this area as well as several others comfortably. He had his chance and wasn't good enough.

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Randle isn't it. There are some very good options in free agency. Players that are clearly more athletic, explosive and productive than RR. We have the cap room to make a move in this area as well as several others comfortably. He had his chance and wasn't good enough.

Who do you think would be a viable replacement that more than likely won't be re-signed by their teams? I just hayte doling out big dollars to WR FAs..

In comment 12711837 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 12711827 Torrag said: Quote: Randle isn't it. There are some very good options in free agency. Players that are clearly more athletic, explosive and productive than RR. We have the cap room to make a move in this area as well as several others comfortably. He had his chance and wasn't good enough. Who do you think would be a viable replacement that more than likely won't be re-signed by their teams? I just hayte doling out big dollars to WR FAs..

Sanu was mentioned as one possibility. We very well may have to take a chance on another team's up and coming WR. I'm not sure who. But, I'd be more inclined to take a chance on a guy with 2-3 years in the league than have Harris as the #2 or rely on Davies. I do know, that I no longer want to rely on Randle as the #2.

...we need a bona fide #2 to run with OBJ. As far as who...free agents can and do sign where the money is.

WR imo is a good position to acquire talent on the open market. Scheme and fit have little to do with their success. They regularly swap jerseys and have success for their new teams.

You're probably familiar with the names available but here are a few. Jeffreys(true #1 probably too expensive), Benjamin, Mathews, Crabtree and possibly Megatron if a restructure cannot be arranged. Marvin Jones, Sanu and Kearse are in the next tier.

I like some of those names. But, how much will a guy like Megatron, for example, cost? I'm not sure I would pay his market value given we have a #1 already. Some of those other names are very intriguing.

...if he is it's due to falling production at his current price tag. I don't think he's going to command elite #1 money at this stage but he certainly won't come 'cheap'.

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...if he is it's due to falling production at his current price tag. I don't think he's going to command elite #1 money at this stage but he certainly won't come 'cheap'.

That was kind of my point. Plus, I don't see him accepting a true #2 position.

In comment 12711862 Torrag said:

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...we need a bona fide #2 to run with OBJ. As far as who...free agents can and do sign where the money is. WR imo is a good position to acquire talent on the open market. Scheme and fit have little to do with their success. They regularly swap jerseys and have success for their new teams. You're probably familiar with the names available but here are a few. Jeffreys(true #1 probably too expensive), Benjamin, Mathews, Crabtree and possibly Megatron if a restructure cannot be arranged. Marvin Jones, Sanu and Kearse are in the next tier.

I would have definite interest in Jeffery(is he a FA to be?) and Sanu..The others? Would have to be a reasonable contract..

Then the Giants should go get Travis Benjamin as he is a dynamic slot receiver stuck in Cleveland. He and OBJ on the same field would be a DCs nightmare.

In comment 12711894 JPinstripes said:

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Then the Giants should go get Travis Benjamin as he is a dynamic slot receiver stuck in Cleveland. He and OBJ on the same field would be a DCs nightmare.

I could live with that as well. It depends on how they view Harris moving forward and whether the difference TB might make would be worth the bucks

In comment 12711896 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 12711894 JPinstripes said: Quote: Then the Giants should go get Travis Benjamin as he is a dynamic slot receiver stuck in Cleveland. He and OBJ on the same field would be a DCs nightmare. I could live with that as well. It depends on how they view Harris moving forward and whether the difference TB might make would be worth the bucks

Yes, good point.

this week against Minnesota, and then the Giants let that bone head walk.

Guy has had plenty of opportunities. Time for an infusion of talent via FA and the draft, and now that Davis has had a full year to sit back and watch, see what we have in him next season.

but Randle doesn't appear to be playing for it..

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Gidie, tell me you still want to re sign this chump

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I laughed.

KWALL, homerjones, radar, bluelou defend this clown. They will probably try to explain that the play calls for him to stop running mid route, especially when open.

and lets a pick 6 go uncontested.

Awful draft pick, awful receiver, awful team player.