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Carl Banks on Landon Collins

Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 6:38 am
from yesterday afternoon:

* thinks he will be a good player
* asked to play out of position, do things he is ill suited for
* not only has he been forced into an unfamiliar role, that role "changes week to week" because of the "transient nature" of the Ss on the roster
* thinks he will be fine as a SS covering TEs off the line one on one
I haven't watched enough of Collins to form an opinion  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 12/29/2015 6:39 am : link
But he needs to be at SS, not FS.
Oh good. One potential decent player on defense. Now if we could get  
Blue21 : 12/29/2015 6:47 am : link
ten more we'd be all set.
glad we drafted a SS with the 33rd pick in the draft  
chris r : 12/29/2015 6:51 am : link
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Is this even a question for anyone?  
USAF NYG Fan : 12/29/2015 6:53 am : link
I think it's pretty much the consensus that he's playing out of position.
RE: glad we drafted a SS with the 33rd pick in the draft  
Profs : 12/29/2015 7:04 am : link
In comment 12720846 chris r said:
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What's wrong with that? Oh you're just Bitching just to bitch. Thanks...
RE: Is this even a question for anyone?  
Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 7:05 am : link
In comment 12720848 USAF NYG Fan said:
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I think it's pretty much the consensus that he's playing out of position.


I saw some posts from yesterday where people were wondering if Banks would be on and when, what he had to say. There was confusion due to J&E filling in for Francesa
RE: glad we drafted a SS with the 33rd pick in the draft  
RC02XX : 12/29/2015 7:09 am : link
In comment 12720846 chris r said:
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Regardless of the position, he was the best player on the board at the time. Even now with his struggles, so far he's played more and has shown more of being a viable NFL player (especially if he is put into his natural SS position) than most players chosen after him.

Not sure why you are bitching other than to bitch like you normally do.
I agree  
blueblood'11 : 12/29/2015 7:12 am : link
The guy was a beast at Alabama. No reason to think he won't be a very good pro as time goes along. I thought it was a great pick particularly in the second round and as a rookie played better then anything they had out there anyway. You have to start somewhere to rebuild this shit defense. He was there and they took him. Deal with it.
He's a tough, fast  
Randy in CT : 12/29/2015 7:27 am : link
guy with a nose for the ball. He flies to the play and is a solid tackler. It was well-known when we drafted him that having him track down balls and play anything resembling FS was going to be a learning process.

I like him and Brinkley as hard-nosed, solid players.
SS are not to be drafted  
Headhunter : 12/29/2015 7:35 am : link
before the 74th pick according to the "Book of Morons"
Pair him with Prince and DRC  
tomeee : 12/29/2015 7:42 am : link
and you have 3 solid players out of the back 4.

Get a good FS and maybe a few linebackers and the back 7 may resemble something.
If every second round pick was a Year 1 starter  
Ivan15 : 12/29/2015 7:58 am : link
the Giants would be in good shape instead of the mess they are in now.
RE: RE: Is this even a question for anyone?  
USAF NYG Fan : 12/29/2015 8:02 am : link
In comment 12720852 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 12720848 USAF NYG Fan said:


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I think it's pretty much the consensus that he's playing out of position.



I saw some posts from yesterday where people were wondering if Banks would be on and when, what he had to say. There was confusion due to J&E filling in for Francesa

Oh, gotcha. More about what Banks had to say.
he was critical of the offensive play calling, that McAdoo was  
Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 8:05 am : link
trying to force the ball downfield when it was clear that Minny was playing to stop it and willing to cede the run, felt they should have run more with Jennings until Vikes brought people up into the box.
I think all of the DBs  
Gman11 : 12/29/2015 8:07 am : link
would have looked better with a semblance of a pass rush.
Well hopefully he rebounds from playing a rookie year out of position  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/29/2015 8:14 am : link
...as well as Richberg did this year.

Meanwhile, here's a freakin crazy idea... how about play your highly drafted players in their position.
Glad we didn't pick him in 9th, but 33rd was the right spot  
Tom in DC : 12/29/2015 8:23 am : link
There was a concern that need would have us overdraft him. I think most of us were happy the Giants pounced on the best safety in the draft to fill a gigantic need. He is a SS so coverage will always be his weakness. That weakness was emphasized as the defense fell apart around him. As part of a solid defense, we will likely find his coverage skills to similar to other SS in the league.
RE: SS are not to be drafted  
Jay in Toronto : 12/29/2015 8:25 am : link
In comment 12720862 Headhunter said:
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before the 74th pick according to the "Book of Morons"


Hmm. Interesting -- didn't know that. How is the musical??
Wow  
giantsfan227B : 12/29/2015 8:26 am : link
Another draft choice being asked to play out of position due to poor drafting, FA acquisitions and injuries.

Yeah it is Coughlin's fault.
RE: Well hopefully he rebounds from playing a rookie year out of position  
Curtis in VA : 12/29/2015 8:33 am : link
In comment 12720900 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...as well as Richberg did this year.

Meanwhile, here's a freakin crazy idea... how about play your highly drafted players in their position.


yeah, I was sort of thinking the same thing.

But you know, its the Giants own fault for not going into the season with a true free safety to begin with. They decided to take a chance with guys who are untested and inexperienced it backfired on them.

Sounds like de ja vu.
RE: Wow  
Les in TO : 12/29/2015 8:44 am : link
In comment 12720912 giantsfan227B said:
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Another draft choice being asked to play out of position due to poor drafting, FA acquisitions and injuries.

Yeah it is Coughlin's fault.
actually it is. Reese does not tell coughlin how to use the talent they acquire. That is the job of the head coach. Just like Reese signs Vereen for big dough and is effective when he plays yet coughlin gives his bc pal 44 about 15 wasted snaps per game.
RE: RE: Wow  
Arcanum : 12/29/2015 8:47 am : link
In comment 12720931 Les in TO said:
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Another draft choice being asked to play out of position due to poor drafting, FA acquisitions and injuries.

Yeah it is Coughlin's fault.

actually it is. Reese does not tell coughlin how to use the talent they acquire. That is the job of the head coach. Just like Reese signs Vereen for big dough and is effective when he plays yet coughlin gives his bc pal 44 about 15 wasted snaps per game.


Yup
RE: RE: Well hopefully he rebounds from playing a rookie year out of position  
jcn56 : 12/29/2015 8:50 am : link
In comment 12720917 Curtis in VA said:
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...as well as Richberg did this year.

Meanwhile, here's a freakin crazy idea... how about play your highly drafted players in their position.



yeah, I was sort of thinking the same thing.

But you know, its the Giants own fault for not going into the season with a true free safety to begin with. They decided to take a chance with guys who are untested and inexperienced it backfired on them.

Sounds like de ja vu.


That would be a very fair assessment if those untested players ever had a chance to get out there and perform poorly. Instead, one by one a body part fell off.
Said this yestertday and I'll repeat it today  
njm : 12/29/2015 8:51 am : link
Collins showed up to play yesterday and he didn't shut it down when the game got out of hand. That counts for something.
I would sign Weddle  
Shadow : 12/29/2015 8:52 am : link
And see if Benett and Thompson have anything. Benett was flashing before he got hurt.
Jackson  
Shadow : 12/29/2015 8:53 am : link
Benett Jackson
Les, you do realize that they had ZEROproven FSs  
Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 8:53 am : link
on the roster going into camp don't you? Taylor, Berhe, Thompson? Thompson a 5th round rookie, but at least no injury history, Berhe and Taylor 2 guys who can't stay on the field. Stunningly all 3 end up injured. A responsible GM would have made finding a competent vet FS a priority. Maybe trade picks for a FS rather than a punter?
oh yeah, I left out Bennett Jackson  
Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 8:54 am : link
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RE: RE: Wow  
HomerJones45 : 12/29/2015 9:01 am : link
In comment 12720931 Les in TO said:
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Another draft choice being asked to play out of position due to poor drafting, FA acquisitions and injuries.

Yeah it is Coughlin's fault.

actually it is. Reese does not tell coughlin how to use the talent they acquire. That is the job of the head coach. Just like Reese signs Vereen for big dough and is effective when he plays yet coughlin gives his bc pal 44 about 15 wasted snaps per game.
Did we lose 3 or 4 safeties in the preseason? I've lost count. When the two healthy safeties are Collins and Meriwether, which would you play at FS?
free safety  
hankb1126 : 12/29/2015 9:03 am : link
maybe those 2 young db's that went ir this season were supposed to be the free safety in jackson, behre, and thompson

plus you have cooper taylor as well

and the giants with these injuries before the season started did not have any other choice but to play collins out of position since they only could find ss as free agents in meriweather and dahl

just an opinion
RE: RE: Wow  
Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 9:07 am : link
In comment 12720931 Les in TO said:
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Another draft choice being asked to play out of position due to poor drafting, FA acquisitions and injuries.

Yeah it is Coughlin's fault.

actually it is. Reese does not tell coughlin how to use the talent they acquire. That is the job of the head coach.



Com'on, they're out of bodies. What's the alternative option? Play with with no FS? Look at the choices since the injuries. Can't blame the HC or even the DC when the roster doesn't have a FS on it.

Like Banks said, he can cover the TE. Collins is a down in the box safety. Look at his size. He's not going to have great COD against receivers at approx. 230lbs. Fact is, the Giants need a FS and likely another SS with Collins down in the box for the three safety set. The team needs more bodies.
I also think that this reflects on the coaching staff  
Bill in UT : 12/29/2015 9:08 am : link
If the Giants had a good SS and no good FS, I could see playing that guy and putting Collins at FS to strengthen 2 positions. But they didn't have a good SS. They should have put Collins at SS and stuck some JAG in a FS, to at least strengthen SS. Instead, they weaken both spots and slow down Collins' development by a year.
RE: RE: glad we drafted a SS with the 33rd pick in the draft  
chris r : 12/29/2015 9:08 am : link
In comment 12720850 Profs said:
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What's wrong with that? Oh you're just Bitching just to bitch. Thanks...


Its a passing league and therefore the SS is devalued.

And bitching just to bitch? Have you missed the past 3 seasons of shit football?

RE: I also think that this reflects on the coaching staff  
Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 9:08 am : link
In comment 12720986 Bill in UT said:
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If the Giants had a good SS and no good FS, I could see playing that guy and putting Collins at FS to strengthen 2 positions. But they didn't have a good SS. They should have put Collins at SS and stuck some JAG in a FS, to at least strengthen SS. Instead, they weaken both spots and slow down Collins' development by a year.


good point
RE: SS are not to be drafted  
chris r : 12/29/2015 9:09 am : link
In comment 12720862 Headhunter said:
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before the 74th pick according to the "Book of Morons"


I suppose you would defend a first round fullback too.
Banks thinks Collins will be fine covering TEs off the line one on one  
Jimmy Googs : 12/29/2015 9:11 am : link
This would be helpful since it would be the first Giant defensive player I have seen do this in about 2 decades.
RE: Banks thinks Collins will be fine covering TEs off the line one on one  
Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 9:13 am : link
In comment 12720992 Jimmy Googs said:
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This would be helpful since it would be the first Giant defensive player I have seen do this in about 2 decades.


Too bad Carl can't line up over the TE again. He took them out at the LOS.
RE: I also think that this reflects on the coaching staff  
Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 9:16 am : link
In comment 12720986 Bill in UT said:
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If the Giants had a good SS and no good FS, I could see playing that guy and putting Collins at FS to strengthen 2 positions. But they didn't have a good SS. They should have put Collins at SS and stuck some JAG in a FS, to at least strengthen SS. Instead, they weaken both spots and slow down Collins' development by a year.


The choices are Dahl, Cooper and Meriweather.
And what does Banks think about  
mikeygiants : 12/29/2015 9:17 am : link
Craig Dahl?
I'm glad a few folks recall that TC's idiocy to play Collins  
BlueLou : 12/29/2015 9:22 am : link
"out of position" at FS was due to a crazy streak of injuries to the cover safeties on the roster: Jackson, Berhe, and Thompson - one of whom is a very heady player who impressed TC greatly as a rookie on STs and saw some snaps at S by the end of the year, and the other 2 who were fine rangy athletes who'd moved from the offensive side to DB during college.

TC was left with no one...
RE: RE: SS are not to be drafted  
FStubbs : 12/29/2015 9:22 am : link
In comment 12720990 chris r said:
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before the 74th pick according to the "Book of Morons"



I suppose you would defend a first round fullback too.


I don't know. Normally, no, but what if I'm picking 25th and John Riggins is there?
Collins isn't necessarily playing out of position (he is to an extent)  
djm : 12/29/2015 9:27 am : link
As much as he's being victimized by a lack of passrush and his counterpart safety can't cover a corpse.

But whatever fits the narrative. Gotta blame someone.

Improve the talent on the defense and Collins will thrive. You can see the guy can clearly play. He covers a lot of ground out there and hits like a truck.
you can make the case FS is the biggest need on D  
GiantsFan84 : 12/29/2015 9:28 am : link
as it will fix two positions the FS position and the SS position by allowing Collins to play to his strengths
I think the more important point that Banks made was that they  
Victor in CT : 12/29/2015 9:29 am : link
change Collins' responsibilities from week to week depending on who he is playing with, that for a rookie that is too much to ask.
RE: you can make the case FS is the biggest need on D  
Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 9:31 am : link
In comment 12721026 GiantsFan84 said:
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as it will fix two positions the FS position and the SS position by allowing Collins to play to his strengths


+1

Like last offseason, safety first. They have a lot of kids trying for the spot yet they got injured. Not one can be trusted b/c have proven anything.

Safety and MLB are must upgrades IMO. Of course, we have depth issue on the DL. What a mess
RE: RE: I also think that this reflects on the coaching staff  
Bill in UT : 12/29/2015 9:32 am : link
In comment 12721001 Giants2012 said:
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If the Giants had a good SS and no good FS, I could see playing that guy and putting Collins at FS to strengthen 2 positions. But they didn't have a good SS. They should have put Collins at SS and stuck some JAG in a FS, to at least strengthen SS. Instead, they weaken both spots and slow down Collins' development by a year.



The choices are Dahl, Cooper and Meriweather.


Dahl and Meriweather weren't on the team at the start of the year. If Collins was at SS, the Giants could have picked up a couple of mediocre FSs midyear instead of those guys.
RE: I think the more important point that Banks made was that they  
Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 9:34 am : link
In comment 12721028 Victor in CT said:
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change Collins' responsibilities from week to week depending on who he is playing with, that for a rookie that is too much to ask.


They're changing the responsibilities for all four hoping one of them can cover. It likely why Spags loves Dahl. Dahl is likely the only one who can cover anybody. Collins couldn't cover anybody in college that wasn't in front of him, Meriweather has never had a clue in coverage and no idea what to think of our 6'4, 228lb Cooper Taylor.

It's actually funny it's so sad lol
I will say this again...  
EricJ : 12/29/2015 9:36 am : link
For Collins, this is a combination of two things right now...

1. He is learning a very complex system vs what he had in College. So, he is thinking A LOT before he reacts. Therefore, you are seeing slow reactions on pass plays.

2. The system and the communication within our defensive system is not working. When you see veterans playing out of position and also talking about communication, then you know we have a problem. So, I am not surprised that a rookie is also struggling with this.

Remember when Corey Webster was drafted. After his first year, he looked like a complete bust. However, we fired our DC after that season. Then, it all changed and he started to play much better.
RE: you can make the case FS is the biggest need on D  
Watson : 12/29/2015 9:36 am : link
In comment 12721026 GiantsFan84 said:
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as it will fix two positions the FS position and the SS position by allowing Collins to play to his strengths


Think the biggest need is pass rusher(s) but your right a free safety would be huge and fix two spots.
You guys do realize  
Simms11 : 12/29/2015 9:39 am : link
Collins has 104 tackles on the year! Only guy that remained healthy on defense all year too, RELIABLE, solid SS; that's what he is. He will only get better. He's got enough speed to keep up with TEs and RBs once he has better recognition of routes, etc. to me he's definitely a keeper and will prove his worth moreso next year.

You have Hankins, Collins and DRC on D, an oft injured Kennard, a decent, if not solid back up in Brinkley (if they resign him) and a nice DT in Bromley. That's your defense in a nutshell, until they sign or re-sign some guys. Many holes to fill!
He's a health risk but Berry  
Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 9:42 am : link
would change the entire defense.
RE: I think all of the DBs  
MBavaro : 12/29/2015 9:42 am : link
In comment 12720894 Gman11 said:
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would have looked better with a semblance of a pass rush.


This times 10
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 12/29/2015 9:50 am : link
1) Collins was a 1st round talent on many (most?) boards before the draft.

2) He was not drafted to play FS. Necessity forced him to play a lot of different roles. As a SS, with a pure FS next to him, he should be a very good player.

3) Can we please stop with the Coughlin playing guys because they are from BC or Syracuse? First, those calls are more likely made by Spags and McAdoo. Second, Williams was considered a steal of the draft last year by many "experts". He showed some signs late in the season last year, which is why he got so much attention early this season. The rest, I put on McAdoo. I love his system. I hate his gameplans, playcalling, and personnel decisions.
Radar is wrong as usual  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/29/2015 9:50 am : link
Collins was commonly projected in the first round. It was a gift from the gods that he was on the board at the top of the 2nd. If we didn't pounce he wouldn't have lasted 3 selections.

Yes we needed a FS also, but at the time we had Berhe, and Jackson. Collins was clearly the BPA and the selection.
RE: He's a health risk but Berry  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/29/2015 9:54 am : link
In comment 12721047 Giants2012 said:
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would change the entire defense.



Eric Berry is also a SS.
Man how much different this secondary looks  
nygiants16 : 12/29/2015 9:55 am : link
If Mccourty decides to sign with the Giants, may be close to one of the best in the league, hell how good would this secondary of been if Phillips could of just stayed Healthy...

Phillips and Collins would of been a hell of combo in the secondary..

FS along with MLB and a Defensive End have to be at the top of the needs..
RE: He's a tough, fast  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/29/2015 9:57 am : link
In comment 12720860 Randy in CT said:
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guy with a nose for the ball. He flies to the play and is a solid tackler. It was well-known when we drafted him that having him track down balls and play anything resembling FS was going to be a learning process.

I like him and Brinkley as hard-nosed, solid players.


I agree 100% with Randy

he's excellent in the Box, we needed two safetys, Antrelle was done, Collins attacks the line of scrimmage

he's going to be a pro bowler at SS
RE: Radar is wrong as usual  
Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 9:58 am : link
In comment 12721064 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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Collins was commonly projected in the first round. It was a gift from the gods that he was on the board at the top of the 2nd. If we didn't pounce he wouldn't have lasted 3 selections.
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lol - whose board? Mel Kiper and friends? If Collins demonstrated coverage skills in college he would have been a top 10 pick. He wasn't even in television view during Iron Bowl with Auburn throwing every pass down the middle of the field. It was an Auburn receiver and grass with sight of Collins anywhere. Com'on, I like the guy but he slipped for a huge reason.
No sight  
Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 9:58 am : link
:)
RE: Is this even a question for anyone?  
riceneggs : 12/29/2015 9:58 am : link
In comment 12720848 USAF NYG Fan said:
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I think it's pretty much the consensus that he's playing out of position.


same thing they did with Antrell Rolle for the last couple years of his tenure
Lots of good players on this team...  
NoPeanutz : 12/29/2015 9:59 am : link
but it seems like year in year out everyone with potential is asked to play out of position.
It's like the Giants can't be trusted to draft BPA.
What i love about Collins is  
Hades07 : 12/29/2015 10:00 am : link
He is a very good tackler from what I have seen. Really a stark contrast from what I have become accustomed to seeing from the Giants defense in recent seasons. He would have fit nicely on that 1990 giants defense, not a lot of flash on that D but try could stop you cold.
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Giants2012 : 12/29/2015 10:01 am : link
In comment 12721067 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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would change the entire defense.




Eric Berry is also a SS.


and he would stay there with Collins coming down low with a new FS for a 3 safety set is what I'm thinking.
They not try  
Hades07 : 12/29/2015 10:01 am : link
Fat thumbs
Almost the exact situation as the Jets with Calvin Pryor last year  
Bob in Newburgh : 12/29/2015 10:18 am : link
These 2 are physically almost the exact same player, Pryor maybe a touch more intuitive and Collins maybe a touch more straight-line speed.

Both had to play a lot as CFs their 1st year. Neither is particularly suited for the role. They will create turnovers, but it will be about separating people from the ball, not ints.

Pryor, now being used properly, has demonstrated conclusively in his 2nd year that he is the player the Jets drafted after being somewhat of a disappointment his rookie year.

RE: RE: Radar is wrong as usual  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/29/2015 10:21 am : link
In comment 12721084 Giants2012 said:
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Collins was commonly projected in the first round. It was a gift from the gods that he was on the board at the top of the 2nd. If we didn't pounce he wouldn't have lasted 3 selections.
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lol - whose board? Mel Kiper and friends? If Collins demonstrated coverage skills in college he would have been a top 10 pick. He wasn't even in television view during Iron Bowl with Auburn throwing every pass down the middle of the field. It was an Auburn receiver and grass with sight of Collins anywhere. Com'on, I like the guy but he slipped for a huge reason.


Yes, he slipped from the 15 range to the first pick of the 2nd.

Kiper was far from the only one projecting him in the first. I don't even follow Kiper.
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Bill2 : 12/29/2015 10:38 am : link
Yes he was taken 33rd

In a draft year almost universally considered to be one of the worst talent pools in the last ten drafts.

And in that draft year we appear to have gotten a potential tremendous OL tackle ( playing out of position, injured and next too guys new to their positions) and a better than average defensive player and a second TE from the undrafted pool and the rest are unproven yet.

With the talent and injury pool available its hard to isolate any defensive player this year and not expect things that look like mistakes but might be breakdowns.

In sum....we dont know yet....but harping on 33rd in the draft as a relevant insight is ???

So as usual, evaluating the draft of 2015 requires:
1) More time to come to a conclusion
2) Context

Meanwhile we can evaluate prior drafts and draftees

Recent drafts appear better. But some of the prior ones which should enable us to field a team with some depth appear to have yielded less than average results.

To me Collins is the among the least of our concerns and might yet even be a good player to have in the future
We have a lot more issues than Collins  
PatersonPlank : 12/29/2015 10:42 am : link
The guy is one of our better defensive players, and will turn into a very good safety (in my opinion obviously).
agree Giants 2012  
Bill2 : 12/29/2015 10:48 am : link
id like to see Collins in the old Deon Grant role.

I think that would be a good set up for many of the quick drop passing attacks we see in the NFL

That and better LBs. and another DT to push the middle may be what gives us a shot against running and the latest wrinkles in three step passing ( which can negate all the money we used to tie up in DE)
RE: Jackson  
Tuckrule : 12/29/2015 10:58 am : link
In comment 12720957 Shadow said:
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Benett Jackson


Where did he flash exactly? Cause I sure as hell didn't see it. I read about it all day in training camp reports just like I read a bunch of crap in those reports that never translate to game action
Does Spags have a FS?  
trueblueinpw : 12/29/2015 11:17 am : link
A few days ago someone wrote here thats Spags defense doesn't have a classic "free safety" concept. Don't remember all the details...

Anyway, Collins is hardly the first thing I'd fix on our worst in the NFL defense. There is zero pass rush and zero talent at linebacker. I actually think our defensive backfield would be pretty good but for the injuries and total failure to have any talent at linebacker and mostly role players and subs playing along the d line.

Question for Banks, if Collins can cover TEs than why was this a problem in every game we played this year?
Keep in mind, not only did he have  
Simms11 : 12/29/2015 1:06 pm : link
104 tackles this year, he also dropped a few more picks, one of which would have won the game over New England!
Could be evem better than Banks gives him credit for  
The Tempest : 12/29/2015 3:27 pm : link
Now we just need another safety out of the draft or free agency to put next to Collins. Hope they don't limit Collins by treating him as just another box safety. He has the ability to be more and do more.
Banks on Amakamara  
Giants2012 : 12/31/2015 12:01 am : link
To paraphrase, there is a difference between being a football player and playing football. Apparently he's spoken to Prince about this. Doesn't appear to be sinking in.
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