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Giants to interview Teryl Austin thursday

DCPollaro : 1/6/2016 10:14 pm
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here is the tweet  
DCPollaro : 1/6/2016 10:16 pm : link
Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson 10m10 minutes ago
I'm told the #Giants are scheduled to interview #Lions defensive coordinator Teryl Austin as well now, on Thursday.
New coach named by  
Shadow : 1/6/2016 10:16 pm : link
Monday
Rooney Rule  
AP in Halfmoon : 1/6/2016 10:16 pm : link
.
My boy,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/6/2016 10:16 pm : link
or one of my boys as well..Hope it's not just a "Rooney" thing
That satisfies  
NorwoodWideRight : 1/6/2016 10:17 pm : link
the Rooney rule. A good DC. Solid. But I don't see it.
He also  
Kuhn and Friends : 1/6/2016 10:17 pm : link
already interviewed with Miami.
There's your Rooney rule  
The_Boss : 1/6/2016 10:18 pm : link
Interview.
BB'56  
DCPollaro : 1/6/2016 10:18 pm : link
good to see you

you have connection to him as well?
RE: That satisfies  
Kuhn and Friends : 1/6/2016 10:18 pm : link
In comment 12746104 NorwoodWideRight said:
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the Rooney rule. A good DC. Solid. But I don't see it.


Yep, that it does.
He's a legit candidate  
antdog24 : 1/6/2016 10:18 pm : link
I doubt this is just rooney rule.
Could be a dark horse  
Sammo85 : 1/6/2016 10:18 pm : link
Tomlin was seen as a similar courtesy interview and ended up as the HC within days.
RE: He's a legit candidate  
NorwoodWideRight : 1/6/2016 10:24 pm : link
In comment 12746111 antdog24 said:
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I doubt this is just rooney rule.


Two birds, one stone. And now that's several defensive guys the Giants have lined up to look at.
another coordinator  
bluepepper : 1/6/2016 10:24 pm : link
who doesn't really have anything over McAdoo. In fact his experience is very similar except on the other side of the ball.
This is what's wrong...  
Chris in Philly : 1/6/2016 10:36 pm : link
with the Rooney Rule. They interview a perfectly good candidate but because he's black, idiots think it's only because of he Rooney Rule.
Who cares what people think about it?  
ZogZerg : 1/6/2016 10:40 pm : link
..
RE: BB'56  
Big Blue '56 : 1/6/2016 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12746108 DCPollaro said:
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good to see you

you have connection to him as well?


Hey Dean, same here..No, I just like the guy's work
Agree CiP,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/6/2016 10:44 pm : link
that's why I was hoping it wasn't
RE: This is what's wrong...  
jcn56 : 1/6/2016 10:52 pm : link
In comment 12746168 Chris in Philly said:
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with the Rooney Rule. They interview a perfectly good candidate but because he's black, idiots think it's only because of he Rooney Rule.


That's not what's wrong with the Rooney Rule, that's what's wrong with idiots.
Austin  
Sammo85 : 1/6/2016 11:02 pm : link
Is fairly well thought of. He did a decent job with very little in Detroit after a bunch of free agent losses on the defensive line and some injuries in the back seven.

He seems highly thought of by the defensive guys who play for him.
There's a lot to like about his resume  
David in LA : 1/6/2016 11:11 pm : link
I don't think he's ready. It'd be nice to see what he could do with more experience as a coordinator.
RE: RE: This is what's wrong...  
Mike in NY : 1/6/2016 11:20 pm : link
In comment 12746197 jcn56 said:
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with the Rooney Rule. They interview a perfectly good candidate but because he's black, idiots think it's only because of he Rooney Rule.



That's not what's wrong with the Rooney Rule, that's what's wrong with idiots.


Not sure how the coordinator of the 18th ranked D (18 vs. run 15 vs. pass) and no previous head coaching experience qualifies for an interview
Mike, he oversaw the secondary for the Ravens, Seahawks and Cardinals  
David in LA : 1/6/2016 11:28 pm : link
when they all made the Super Bowl. He did a good job fielding an average defense that was in transition from losing Suh to FA. You really think this is some schmuck that's just here to require some obligation?
The 'no talent to work with' argument applies to Coughlin and Spags  
David in LA : 1/6/2016 11:29 pm : link
but doesn't apply to Austin?
RE: RE: RE: This is what's wrong...  
jcn56 : 1/6/2016 11:30 pm : link
In comment 12746241 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 12746168 Chris in Philly said:


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with the Rooney Rule. They interview a perfectly good candidate but because he's black, idiots think it's only because of he Rooney Rule.



That's not what's wrong with the Rooney Rule, that's what's wrong with idiots.



Not sure how the coordinator of the 18th ranked D (18 vs. run 15 vs. pass) and no previous head coaching experience qualifies for an interview


His defense led the league in a lot of categories last year, and despite significant FA losses and a dysfunctional offense around him, he still managed to keep them in games.

While I am not certain he comes down with a HC spot this season, he's certainly a credible candidate.

Now, interviewing Duce Staley...
RE: This is what's wrong...  
Vanzetti : 1/6/2016 11:35 pm : link
In comment 12746168 Chris in Philly said:
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with the Rooney Rule. They interview a perfectly good candidate but because he's black, idiots think it's only because of he Rooney Rule.


I don't think you can blame fans' idiocy on the Rooney rule.

The Rooney rule has in fact been incredibly successful. The NFL went from having almost no minority coaches in its entire history to having a bunch of very successful ones. And except for a few idiots, race is not really a factor any more. I had three Giant fan buddies over the other night to watch the bowl games who had no idea David Shaw was black. That's how much of a non-issue it has become. They had heard his name, read about the job he had done at Stanford, knew he could be a viable candidate for the Giants job--but had no idea about his race. Just the way it should be.

Austin is well regarded  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/6/2016 11:37 pm : link
and a legitimate candidate.
Even with the loss of Suh  
Mike in NY : 1/6/2016 11:38 pm : link
Austin did have a lot of talent especially on the DL. Let's not act like he was coaching a team with as little talent on D as the Giants
RE: Even with the loss of Suh  
jcn56 : 1/6/2016 11:39 pm : link
In comment 12746280 Mike in NY said:
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Austin did have a lot of talent especially on the DL. Let's not act like he was coaching a team with as little talent on D as the Giants


Yeah, and look at their division.

Ours? Kirk Cousins took home the NFCE title. Let that one sink in a minute.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/6/2016 11:39 pm : link
Teryl Austin, defensive coordinator, Detroit Lions

Age: 50
NFL head-coaching record: n/a
Possible fits: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints, San Diego Chargers

The buzz around Austin: Might have seemed preposterous to put a Lions assistant on this list two months ago, but a) Austin impressed in interviews last year, and b) Detroit has actually surged from 1-7 (following the blowout loss to the Chiefs in London) to 6-9. As such, Austin becomes an interesting name to consider, especially if he can bring someone like Jim Bob Cooter (if Jim Caldwell is indeed fired) with him as offensive coordinator. Defense-deficient teams like Philly and New Orleans could kick the tires on this charismatic Ravens-pedigreed leader.
NFL.com - ( New Window )
RE: Even with the loss of Suh  
David in LA : 1/6/2016 11:49 pm : link
In comment 12746280 Mike in NY said:
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Austin did have a lot of talent especially on the DL. Let's not act like he was coaching a team with as little talent on D as the Giants


You're really minimizing the loss of an all pro talent on defense. I also never said that Detroit had as less talent, don't try to pull that strawman around here. You're going to completely ignore the fact that Austin oversaw the secondaries of 3 super bowl teams in the passing league era?
Good DC but his unit statistically came back to the pack this season..  
Torrag : 1/7/2016 12:05 am : link
...without Suh in the middle.
Here  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/7/2016 12:10 am : link
is the latest summary on coach interviews...
Giants Interview Teryl Austin and Steve Spagnuolo on Thursday - ( New Window )
RE: Good DC but his unit statistically came back to the pack this season..  
Chris in Philly : 1/7/2016 12:49 am : link
In comment 12746331 Torrag said:
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...without Suh in the middle.


Weird!
If I were hiring any coach I'd certainly look at production / results  
ChaChing : 1/7/2016 12:49 am : link
But i'd clue more heavily on philosophy & implementation. I think that's why we see coordinators with minimal experience / poor results become hot candidates

Absolutely conjecture, but I'd be more focused on how & why they do their job vs rankings. The other side is the NE coordinators-to-HC example - great OC/DC production but mediocre HC stints overall

Fwiw that's the part we fans have almost NO clue about, the day-to-day. Much more important than our consistent & complete ignorance of it, esp in terms of team fit
The problem with the Rooney Rule is that it's still around  
glowrider : 1/7/2016 1:27 am : link
More or less, one of the first couple of guys you HAVE to bring in before you can really move forward in a HC search is a minority candidate, and it has to happen fast. Its idiotic for fans to pronounce a candidate a Rooney Rule interviewee without knowing the person's body of work, just as idiotic as it is to reject the proposal that teams do bring in candidates solely to check the box.

I hate to be so cynical. But absent compelling evidence, does anyone believe Duce Fucking Staley interviewed in Philly for any other reason that to check the box and move on to other candidates, black white or other? It's gotten to the point it's perfunctory and insulting.

There's zero coincidence this meeting is tomorrow and not a second later, qualified candidate or otherwise.
I think it has value  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/7/2016 1:31 am : link
IIRC, the steelers didn't handpick Tomlin. He won the job in interviews when he wasn't necessarily a marquee coaching prospect.
RE: Good DC but his unit statistically came back to the pack this season..  
Toth029 : 1/7/2016 2:43 am : link
In comment 12746331 Torrag said:
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...without Suh in the middle.

He also didn't have his Pro Bowl MLB Deandre Levy.

DC's need good players, too. Especially in this offensive-happy league.
RE: RE: Even with the loss of Suh  
chris r : 1/7/2016 3:21 am : link
In comment 12746309 David in LA said:
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Austin did have a lot of talent especially on the DL. Let's not act like he was coaching a team with as little talent on D as the Giants



You're really minimizing the loss of an all pro talent on defense. I also never said that Detroit had as less talent, don't try to pull that strawman around here. You're going to completely ignore the fact that Austin oversaw the secondaries of 3 super bowl teams in the passing league era?


Wow he was a secondary coach and a defensive coordinator for a mediocre defense?!
He shaped a Seahawks defense that featured Trufant, Ken Lucas, Hamlin,  
David in LA : 1/7/2016 3:44 am : link
other guys like Jordan Babineaux, and Michael Boulware developed under his watch. He oversaw the development of DRC, Antrel Rolle, and Adrian Wilson.
He shaped a Seahawks defense that featured Trufant, Ken Lucas, Hamlin,  
David in LA : 1/7/2016 3:43 am : link
other guys like Jordan Babineaux, and Michael Boulware developed under his watch. He oversaw the development of DRC, Antrel Rolle, and Adrian Wilson.
If you believe Francesa  
giantsfan227B : 1/7/2016 6:17 am : link
McAdoo was told to assemble a staff.

If that is true this is a Rooney Rule interview.

I don't believe Francesa. McAdoo might be the guy but to bring in 4-5 other candidates knowing they don't want any of them makes no sense. I personally would like a defensive coach like McDermott or Austin but I am sure Eli has a say.
RE: This is what's wrong...  
section125 : 1/7/2016 6:25 am : link
In comment 12746168 Chris in Philly said:
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with the Rooney Rule. They interview a perfectly good candidate but because he's black, idiots think it's only because of he Rooney Rule.


+1 - A team with an African American GM is not just going through the motions. Like him or not JR is not bringing people to check off a box. Hope they can talk Shaw into coming, but I thought I heard somewhere his wife loves it at Stanford and does not want to leave.
just due diligence  
micky : 1/7/2016 7:09 am : link
It's no question going to be McAdoo.
Spags! Spags! Spags!  
I Love Clams Casino : 1/7/2016 7:44 am : link
we want Spags!
Agree with the Due Dilgence  
tomeee : 1/7/2016 8:04 am : link
Why would the Giants not kick the tires on any available candidate.

It does satisfy the Rooney Rule so they will be set to go.
Thrilled for him  
JonC : 1/7/2016 8:19 am : link
a darkhorse candidate who has done a lot of good work with DBs in AZ and SEA, and ascending through the coaching ranks.
McAdoo has much less coaching experience than Ray Handley did  
WillieYoung : 1/7/2016 8:28 am : link
If you're coming off a Super Bowl (and you are approaching senility) hiring an inexperienced coach for the sake of continuity is understandable. Doing it after going 11-21 with that coach as your offensive coordinator is unforgivable.
RE: Thrilled for him  
Patrick77 : 1/7/2016 8:32 am : link
In comment 12746516 JonC said:
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a darkhorse candidate who has done a lot of good work with DBs in AZ and SEA, and ascending through the coaching ranks.


That's like totally racist. Just because he is black you refer to him as dark and an animal? Some people...

RE: McAdoo has much less coaching experience than Ray Handley did  
Mike in NY : 1/7/2016 8:38 am : link
In comment 12746524 WillieYoung said:
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If you're coming off a Super Bowl (and you are approaching senility) hiring an inexperienced coach for the sake of continuity is understandable. Doing it after going 11-21 with that coach as your offensive coordinator is unforgivable.


The O wasn't the problem the last two years. We had a playoff caliber O both seasons under McAdoo and Eli Manning made dramatic improvements cutting down turnovers. The D and the lack of depth caused by personnel moves were our downfall. Had we even had an average D we are in the playoffs definitely this year and quite possibly last year
RE: RE: McAdoo has much less coaching experience than Ray Handley did  
Big Blue '56 : 1/7/2016 8:41 am : link
In comment 12746542 Mike in NY said:
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If you're coming off a Super Bowl (and you are approaching senility) hiring an inexperienced coach for the sake of continuity is understandable. Doing it after going 11-21 with that coach as your offensive coordinator is unforgivable.



The O wasn't the problem the last two years. We had a playoff caliber O both seasons under McAdoo and Eli Manning made dramatic improvements cutting down turnovers. The D and the lack of depth caused by personnel moves were our downfall. Had we even had an average D we are in the playoffs definitely this year and quite possibly last year


No doubt
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