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Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2016 4:17 pm
Did not hear the interview. This is Arthur Stapleton's (beat writer) highlighting.

Mara: "Every decision that we make here is a collaboration between the general manager and the head coach," then Mara says he approves.

John Mara: "I want to see a roster that looks a lot better at this time than the one we just had."

John Mara says on ESPN Radio he believed Odell Beckham Jr. should have been removed from Carolina game by NYG sideline until he calmed down.

John Mara told @RealMichaelKay and @DonLagreca that he wants to find a HC sooner rather than later, but not at expense of finding right guy.
When you're Michael Kay  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/8/2016 4:23 pm : link
You get the Giants owner days after New Yawk's Numbah 1.
This interview  
jvm52106 : 1/8/2016 4:23 pm : link
and what Mike G said on the Garbage Time show seems to indicate that the Carolina fiasco was the end of the line for TC. That things ahd gotten out of control.
Mara says he approves of the HC and GM  
Bill in UT : 1/8/2016 4:24 pm : link
collaborating on the pick, or he say that he (Mara) has to approve the pick himself before it's final?
One man's opinion ...  
sphinx : 1/8/2016 4:25 pm : link
Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 12 minutes ago
Listening to Mara on Kay Show I can see why Coughlin walked right past him--disgraceful treating TC this way IMHO

Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 10 minutes ago
NY endings very rarely end well--Namath,Ewing,Clyde, even Seaver--but the way Mara alludes to TC is really unfair-this guy gave him so much

RE: This interview  
Bill in UT : 1/8/2016 4:26 pm : link
In comment 12750862 jvm52106 said:
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and what Mike G said on the Garbage Time show seems to indicate that the Carolina fiasco was the end of the line for TC. That things ahd gotten out of control.


Ironic that TC said he left Odell in to have a better chance to win the game, and by implication save his job; instead leaving him in may have cost him his job
I honestly think that  
silverfox : 1/8/2016 4:27 pm : link
The beckham incident was the final nail in Coughlin's coffin. No respectable coach in this league would have not sat him down. No coach. Coughlin was fighting for his job by leaving him in there and everybody knows it. Especially Mara.
RE: Mara says he approves of the HC and GM  
Giants2012 : 1/8/2016 4:28 pm : link
In comment 12750865 Bill in UT said:
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collaborating on the pick, or he say that he (Mara) has to approve the pick himself before it's final?


HOW CAN THIS BE NEWS? They've been saying for years.
RE: RE: Mara says he approves of the HC and GM  
Ira : 1/8/2016 4:31 pm : link
In comment 12750877 Giants2012 said:
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collaborating on the pick, or he say that he (Mara) has to approve the pick himself before it's final?



HOW CAN THIS BE NEWS? They've been saying for years.


You're absolutely right, but many have not got the message, so it's news to them.
RE: RE: Mara says he approves of the HC and GM  
Les in TO : 1/8/2016 4:32 pm : link
In comment 12750877 Giants2012 said:
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collaborating on the pick, or he say that he (Mara) has to approve the pick himself before it's final?



HOW CAN THIS BE NEWS? They've been saying for years.
it's news to the coughlin acolytes who feel he was an innocent victim of reese's bad personnel decisions.
I think most people at the time  
Reb8thVA : 1/8/2016 4:33 pm : link
had to feel at least a little uncomfortable with the way things were developing and that it was probably going to end up hurting Coughlin
But the reason Coughlin left OBJ in  
Vanzetti : 1/8/2016 4:37 pm : link
is not because he has lost control. TC can still lay down the discipline. No doubt about that.

The reason he left him in is that he had a mandate: make the playoffs or else. To make the playoffs, he had to beat Carolina and he had no chance of doing that with OBJ on the sideline.

I wanted Coughlin fired but if the Carolina game decided it that is unfair because Coughlin was basically set up to fail.
RE: RE: RE: Mara says he approves of the HC and GM  
HomerJones45 : 1/8/2016 5:03 pm : link
In comment 12750885 Les in TO said:
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collaborating on the pick, or he say that he (Mara) has to approve the pick himself before it's final?



HOW CAN THIS BE NEWS? They've been saying for years.

it's news to the coughlin acolytes who feel he was an innocent victim of reese's bad personnel decisions.
I think people are questioning the "he [Mara] approves" part and whether that means Mara also must approve the pick. That's a legitimate question.
RE: But the reason Coughlin left OBJ in  
Jimmy Googs : 1/8/2016 5:09 pm : link
In comment 12750898 Vanzetti said:
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is not because he has lost control. TC can still lay down the discipline. No doubt about that.

The reason he left him in is that he had a mandate: make the playoffs or else. To make the playoffs, he had to beat Carolina and he had no chance of doing that with OBJ on the sideline.

I wanted Coughlin fired but if the Carolina game decided it that is unfair because Coughlin was basically set up to fail.


That event, in isolation, was not the reason. It was likely just a contributing factor in a handful of issues that led to the change.
coughlin coaches  
japanhead : 1/8/2016 5:10 pm : link
stubborn, is overly loyal to ineffective ageing players, or hard working practice guys with low ceilings, his 4-RB rotation was awful to watch in action, and he's had every coaching change made under his tenure forced on him by management. this is a coach who had to be forced to fire bill sheridan. it was time for him to go years ago.
RE: RE: But the reason Coughlin left OBJ in  
RobCarpenter : 1/8/2016 5:11 pm : link
In comment 12750969 Jimmy Googs said:
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is not because he has lost control. TC can still lay down the discipline. No doubt about that.

The reason he left him in is that he had a mandate: make the playoffs or else. To make the playoffs, he had to beat Carolina and he had no chance of doing that with OBJ on the sideline.

I wanted Coughlin fired but if the Carolina game decided it that is unfair because Coughlin was basically set up to fail.



That event, in isolation, was not the reason. It was likely just a contributing factor in a handful of issues that led to the change.


I thought the issue was that Coughlin wasn't even aware of what was going on with OBJ?
RE: But the reason Coughlin left OBJ in  
David in LA : 1/8/2016 5:12 pm : link
In comment 12750898 Vanzetti said:
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is not because he has lost control. TC can still lay down the discipline. No doubt about that.

The reason he left him in is that he had a mandate: make the playoffs or else. To make the playoffs, he had to beat Carolina and he had no chance of doing that with OBJ on the sideline.

I wanted Coughlin fired but if the Carolina game decided it that is unfair because Coughlin was basically set up to fail.


He didn't have to sit him down for the entire game, the message would have been sent had he sat him down for even a couple series.
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AcidTest : 1/8/2016 5:15 pm : link
In comment 12750868 Bill in UT said:
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and what Mike G said on the Garbage Time show seems to indicate that the Carolina fiasco was the end of the line for TC. That things ahd gotten out of control.



Ironic that TC said he left Odell in to have a better chance to win the game, and by implication save his job; instead leaving him in may have cost him his job


Agreed. I also agree with sliverfox that not sitting him was probably the final nail in Coughlin's coffin.
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christian : 1/8/2016 5:15 pm : link
OBJ didn't start contributing in the game until he calmed down. Forget punishing him, we were lucky his penalties didn't hurt us worse, and that was only because they offset and then we were backed up.

Furthermore if OBJ got tossed like he clearly should have, how was that going to help win the game?
Not even a couple of series - hell, even a couple of downs  
jcn56 : 1/8/2016 5:16 pm : link
Just get the guy off the field and tell him to pull his head out of his ass. And that's not only on Coughlin but BM too, although it looks worse for TC.

The worst part of that fiasco was Hanlon saying that he needed to put together some film clips for TC because he didn't see what was going on. That sort of admission doesn't paint him in a positive light.
Yeah, he should have yanked Odell  
HomerJones45 : 1/8/2016 5:17 pm : link
after all, all Odell did from that point was take Norman apart for 6 catches, 76 yards and the tying TD in about 1 1/3 quarters so ya think maybe he did get calmed down. Nah.

An NFL coach's job is to try and win football games, not run Boy's Town. I can imagine the reaction here and in Big Jawn's head if Odell got yanked having caught no passes, 57 other players were punished as well and we lost 35-7.

Either Giant fans are schizophrenics by nature or rooting for them promotes schizophrenia.
RE: RE: But the reason Coughlin left OBJ in  
EricJ : 1/8/2016 5:18 pm : link
In comment 12750981 David in LA said:
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is not because he has lost control. TC can still lay down the discipline. No doubt about that.

The reason he left him in is that he had a mandate: make the playoffs or else. To make the playoffs, he had to beat Carolina and he had no chance of doing that with OBJ on the sideline.

I wanted Coughlin fired but if the Carolina game decided it that is unfair because Coughlin was basically set up to fail.



He didn't have to sit him down for the entire game, the message would have been sent had he sat him down for even a couple series.


Agree. If I were the coach, I would have sent him to the locker room a couple of minutes early. Plus, he said he "spoke to" OBJ on the sideline. He needed to get in his grill and not just make a comment as OBJ walks off of the field.
If TC is the the exemplary moral character he goes to great  
Lowell : 1/8/2016 5:18 pm : link
lengths to proclaim, then why didn't he place the team, the franchise and the welfare of OBJ over his personal self interest. Saving his job trumped his scruples on this occasion.
RE: RE: But the reason Coughlin left OBJ in  
section125 : 1/8/2016 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12750981 David in LA said:
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is not because he has lost control. TC can still lay down the discipline. No doubt about that.

The reason he left him in is that he had a mandate: make the playoffs or else. To make the playoffs, he had to beat Carolina and he had no chance of doing that with OBJ on the sideline.

I wanted Coughlin fired but if the Carolina game decided it that is unfair because Coughlin was basically set up to fail.



He didn't have to sit him down for the entire game, the message would have been sent had he sat him down for even a couple series.


I bet one series would have been enough to get the message across to stop the antics.
RE: Yeah, he should have yanked Odell  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2016 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12750995 HomerJones45 said:
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An NFL coach's job is to try and win football games, not run Boy's Town.


I wonder if you heard half of Tom Coughlin's exit speech. He pretty much just said the opposite of this.
ummm  
giantfan2000 : 1/8/2016 5:21 pm : link

Coughlin didn't want to sit OBJ down because he wanted the best chance to win the game and yet in the third quarter he was punting on 4th and 3 when down 35 - 7

also I think Coughlin's post game comments of not knowing how many Personal Fouls the OBJ had gotten also showed TC lost grip of team.

RE: RE: Yeah, he should have yanked Odell  
HomerJones45 : 1/8/2016 5:25 pm : link
In comment 12751003 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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An NFL coach's job is to try and win football games, not run Boy's Town.



I wonder if you heard half of Tom Coughlin's exit speech. He pretty much just said the opposite of this.
Well you will probably not get either any more so no need to worry about it.
RE: One man's opinion ...  
Chris in Philly : 1/8/2016 5:27 pm : link
In comment 12750866 sphinx said:
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Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 12 minutes ago
Listening to Mara on Kay Show I can see why Coughlin walked right past him--disgraceful treating TC this way IMHO

Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 10 minutes ago
NY endings very rarely end well--Namath,Ewing,Clyde, even Seaver--but the way Mara alludes to TC is really unfair-this guy gave him so much


Idiot.
he lost his fastball at the end on the field  
GMenLTS : 1/8/2016 5:28 pm : link
There's little denying this. And I'm gonna give him a pass on the beckam incident.

I'm gonna choose to remember the man that made a seriously positive impact on the majority of his players and whose transformed outlook on coaching helped us win two unforgettably amazing Super Bowl runs.

I'm not sure what else I can ask for. The last four years were tough but fuck if I'm not completely satisfied overall with his tenure.

He didn't only teach those players, I myself learned a ton from him paying such close attention to every press clipping and everything else all these years.

I love that man and I couldn't be more thankful for his time here.
RE: he lost his fastball at the end on the field  
Randy in CT : 1/8/2016 5:32 pm : link
In comment 12751025 GMenLTS said:
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There's little denying this. And I'm gonna give him a pass on the beckam incident.

I'm gonna choose to remember the man that made a seriously positive impact on the majority of his players and whose transformed outlook on coaching helped us win two unforgettably amazing Super Bowl runs.

I'm not sure what else I can ask for. The last four years were tough but fuck if I'm not completely satisfied overall with his tenure.

He didn't only teach those players, I myself learned a ton from him paying such close attention to every press clipping and everything else all these years.

I love that man and I couldn't be more thankful for his time here.
Bingo.
RE: One man's opinion ...  
BigBlueShock : 1/8/2016 5:39 pm : link
In comment 12750866 sphinx said:
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Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 12 minutes ago
Listening to Mara on Kay Show I can see why Coughlin walked right past him--disgraceful treating TC this way IMHO

Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 10 minutes ago
NY endings very rarely end well--Namath,Ewing,Clyde, even Seaver--but the way Mara alludes to TC is really unfair-this guy gave him so much

What the hell is this moron talking about? I seen the entire interview, how exactly was Mara unfair to TC? Talk about making shit up. And Mara talked about TC supposedly walking past him and said that moments later they were in TCs office hugging, so yeah, things certainly are ending badly, right?
RE: Yeah, he should have yanked Odell  
christian : 1/8/2016 5:41 pm : link
In comment 12750995 HomerJones45 said:
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after all, all Odell did from that point was take Norman apart for 6 catches, 76 yards and the tying TD in about 1 1/3 quarters so ya think maybe he did get calmed down. Nah.

An NFL coach's job is to try and win football games, not run Boy's Town. I can imagine the reaction here and in Big Jawn's head if Odell got yanked having caught no passes, 57 other players were punished as well and we lost 35-7.

Either Giant fans are schizophrenics by nature or rooting for them promotes schizophrenia.


Give it a rest. The Giants were damn lucky OBJ wasn't tossed, as evidenced by the entire NFL saying he should have been after the game. And then GETTING suspended. But I'm sure that's Mara's fault too somehow.
It Is Becoming More Obvious To Me  
Trainmaster : 1/8/2016 6:01 pm : link
that Mara believed that Coughlin's age, time with the team or capabilities was / were a more significant factor in deciding to make a change than I thought.

I will admit the decision making this year and the odd lack of discipline with Beckham do stand out. I still think Reese/Ross should have been sent packing too.

GMenLTS said it best!  
Blue21 : 1/8/2016 6:06 pm : link
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IMO, it was either give TC a real extension  
bc4life : 1/8/2016 6:14 pm : link
or let him go. All things considered, I don't think giving TC another one or two extension was going to happen. Either you believe he is the answer for the next 3-4 years or you move on.
RE: he lost his fastball at the end on the field  
HomerJones45 : 1/8/2016 7:04 pm : link
In comment 12751025 GMenLTS said:
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There's little denying this. And I'm gonna give him a pass on the beckam incident.

I'm gonna choose to remember the man that made a seriously positive impact on the majority of his players and whose transformed outlook on coaching helped up s win two unforgettably amazing Super Bowl runs.

I'm not sure what else I can ask for. The last four years were tough but fuck if I'm not completely satisfied overall with his tenure.

He didn't only teach those players, I myself learned a ton from him paying such close attention to every press clipping and everything else all these years.

I love that man and I couldn't be more thankful for his time here.
well said- for the most part :0)
RE: It Is Becoming More Obvious To Me  
TMS : 1/8/2016 7:11 pm : link
In comment 12751089 Trainmaster said:
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that Mara believed that Coughlin's age, time with the team or capabilities was / were a more significant factor in deciding to make a change than I thought.

I will admit the decision making this year and the odd lack of discipline with Beckham do stand out. I still think Reese/Ross should have been sent packing too.
Good post agree.
it wasn't the OBJ incident itself  
SHO'NUFF : 1/8/2016 7:21 pm : link
but TC claiming ignorance afterwards...same as digging his heels in after the Jets game about passing on the field goal.

OBJ has been pretty silent about this whole thing. Can we call him Coach Killer?
RE: IMO, it was either give TC a real extension  
Vanzetti : 1/8/2016 7:59 pm : link
In comment 12751112 bc4life said:
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or let him go. All things considered, I don't think giving TC another one or two extension was going to happen. Either you believe he is the answer for the next 3-4 years or you move on.


I agree. Extending one year is a bad idea because it is a half-hearted vote of confidence. Hard to coach that way.

TC game management  
WillBags : 1/8/2016 8:49 pm : link
Hello everyone. I have been lurking here for a few years and check in just about everyday. I feel that I know many of you. I have been a fan of the GMEN since the mid 1960's and was on the waiting list for season tickets for 27 years until I was able to get 4 seats when the new stadium was opened. I took my two sons to Super Bowl 42 for one of the greatest father/son weekends any one person should reasonably expect to enjoy. I apologize for the length of this initial post but I wanted to try to establish some early credibility.

I waited to post until I felt strongly enough about the commentary to warrant jumping in. This discussion about TC has emboldened me. IMHO, TC was rightly fired. Yes, he served the organization well for many years and the two Lombardi Trophies speak for themselves. He was a fine coach in a global sense, as a motivator, planner, man in charge. But, as a game day coach I believe that he has been sorely lacking. In this year alone, the mismanagement at the end of the Dallas game, the unfathomable decision not to kick the FG in the Jets game, the embarrassing failure to sit OBJ for even a few plays or series in the Carolina game and the foolhardy decision to keep Eli in the hopelessly lost Vikings game until the last few minutes, collectively show such a lack of game management skills to warrant his dismissal. In fact, the Jets and Panther debacles were individually fire-able offenses IMV. Thank you TC for giving my sons and me some of the greatest fan memories of our lives. You did good; now it's time to move on.
OK, I'm done with my first post; have at me.
RE: TC game management  
Del Shofner : 1/8/2016 8:51 pm : link
In comment 12751277 WillBags said:
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Hello everyone. I have been lurking here for a few years and check in just about everyday. I feel that I know many of you. I have been a fan of the GMEN since the mid 1960's and was on the waiting list for season tickets for 27 years until I was able to get 4 seats when the new stadium was opened. I took my two sons to Super Bowl 42 for one of the greatest father/son weekends any one person should reasonably expect to enjoy. I apologize for the length of this initial post but I wanted to try to establish some early credibility.

I waited to post until I felt strongly enough about the commentary to warrant jumping in. This discussion about TC has emboldened me. IMHO, TC was rightly fired. Yes, he served the organization well for many years and the two Lombardi Trophies speak for themselves. He was a fine coach in a global sense, as a motivator, planner, man in charge. But, as a game day coach I believe that he has been sorely lacking. In this year alone, the mismanagement at the end of the Dallas game, the unfathomable decision not to kick the FG in the Jets game, the embarrassing failure to sit OBJ for even a few plays or series in the Carolina game and the foolhardy decision to keep Eli in the hopelessly lost Vikings game until the last few minutes, collectively show such a lack of game management skills to warrant his dismissal. In fact, the Jets and Panther debacles were individually fire-able offenses IMV. Thank you TC for giving my sons and me some of the greatest fan memories of our lives. You did good; now it's time to move on.
OK, I'm done with my first post; have at me.


Welcome aboard WillBags. While reasonable people can disagree about how it went down with TC's exit, I have no strong disagreement with your thoughts. Just so many odd decisions this season.
RE: he lost his fastball at the end on the field  
Rick5 : 1/8/2016 8:59 pm : link
In comment 12751025 GMenLTS said:
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There's little denying this. And I'm gonna give him a pass on the beckam incident.

I'm gonna choose to remember the man that made a seriously positive impact on the majority of his players and whose transformed outlook on coaching helped us win two unforgettably amazing Super Bowl runs.

I'm not sure what else I can ask for. The last four years were tough but fuck if I'm not completely satisfied overall with his tenure.

He didn't only teach those players, I myself learned a ton from him paying such close attention to every press clipping and everything else all these years.

I love that man and I couldn't be more thankful for his time here.

+1
WillBags- Welcome.  
drkenneth : 1/8/2016 9:10 pm : link
Nice post. Agree with everything.
RE: One man's opinion ...  
Rick5 : 1/8/2016 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12750866 sphinx said:
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Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 12 minutes ago
Listening to Mara on Kay Show I can see why Coughlin walked right past him--disgraceful treating TC this way IMHO

Rich Coutinho ‏@coutinho9 10 minutes ago
NY endings very rarely end well--Namath,Ewing,Clyde, even Seaver--but the way Mara alludes to TC is really unfair-this guy gave him so much

I just listened to the whole interview and can't say I agree. I thought Mara did a pretty good job and was not disrespectful to TC.
The organization  
PaulN : 1/8/2016 9:37 pm : link
Is fucked, there is not 1 guy that has taken any responsibility but Coughlin, Reese is a worm, and Mara just doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. Go ahead and enjoy this shitshow, I lot of the morons will learn, on second thought, they won't. As long as they find a thread where they can all agree. With 50 - 60 mil to spend and another top draft pick, what will be the excuse, who is the next fall guy, it will be Eli for the morons, then when he is gone and we are left with Reese and Mara, you will then find out who was the people that held this piece of shit together.
When  
PaulN : 1/8/2016 9:39 pm : link
The horrible roster is on the head coach, on what fucking planet is that even remotely good. They all make the decisions together, so who is responsible
? What do you need a GM for if he is not responsible for the fucking talent level on the team.
John Mara  
SethFromAstoria : 1/8/2016 10:22 pm : link
doesn't have anything to do with final approval of a draft pick. Unless maybe they went to him and were like "theres this guy we love. We think hes going to be great. But he smoked a joint. SHould we get him?"
so  
blue42 : 1/8/2016 11:21 pm : link
if Mara determined that TC's age was a factor...a 2 time SB champ what is his excuse for his GM....get me three people besides Jerry's mother and father who think he did a better job than TC.
RE: When  
dancing blue bear : 1/9/2016 2:34 am : link
In comment 12751358 PaulN said:
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The horrible roster is on the head coach, on what fucking planet is that even remotely good. They all make the decisions together, so who is responsible
? What do you need a GM for if he is not responsible for the fucking talent level on the team.


that's good stuff. and agree 100%

I understand that everyone contributes to decisions, but realistically The coaches pay ZERO attention to college football until February. Then they play catch up by reading reports and watching some film and combine etc.

We have accepted that JR actively scouts the 1 & 2 pick the most. is it not reasonable to think the same as the HC and the rest of the coaches? They both have to rely on Marc Ross (with a fucking "C") and the scouts. the difference is the coaches primary jobs are may- Jan, while the FO is Feb- May
Gents  
Dragon : 1/9/2016 4:24 am : link
The guys on the field no matter who they were did not make the plays to win the games same story for several years. Look at the last game we lost to a team which lost it's HC during the week and we looked bad once again losing.
RE: If TC is the the exemplary moral character he goes to great  
chris r : 1/9/2016 4:36 am : link
In comment 12751000 Lowell said:
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lengths to proclaim, then why didn't he place the team, the franchise and the welfare of OBJ over his personal self interest. Saving his job trumped his scruples on this occasion.


Making the playoffs was in the interest of the the team, the franchise and OBJ.
The organization should have replaced both Coughlin and Reese  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 1/9/2016 4:47 am : link
one year earlier. Nothing was accomplished this year. The team didn't win any more games, and the total defense fell from 29th to 32nd and last.

When Reese lets JPP and Prince walk, which you have to expect given the man's history of re-signing his better vets, who on the defensive roster will be left who could start on an NFL playoff team. DRC? Anyone else?
You know what  
blueblood'11 : 1/9/2016 7:32 am : link
With the pile of shit roster the GM gave Tom to work with over the last four years I too would have said fuck it. Leave Beckham in. If I need to win to save my job then what chance do I have by taking him out. I'm screwed either way. And listening to Mara, who has this whole thing so fucked up anyway, Tom was essentially stuck between a rock and a hard place.

The lean years are here folks. If they don't get the right coach and Jerry Reese do something to improve this roster it may be 1966 revisited and we all know the story that ensued. As a matter of fact, we are a third of the way there already. Six of the last seven years have been putrid. If not for the unforseen Super Bowl run that magically came out of nowhere it would be seven years running. And don't forget, Tom was about to be run out of NewYork then already. That year was nothing to speak of either until Victor cruz ripped off that ninety nine harder against the Jets. Yeah that Jerry Reese he sure knows how to fix a broken team.
Willbags welcome to posting  
Jay in Toronto : 1/9/2016 8:03 am : link
I'm wondering also whether Mara's shots are a nail in the coffin of TC seriously thinking of staying on in some capacity. I have no idea if he ever thought seriously about it.
RE: coughlin coaches  
TD : 1/9/2016 8:08 am : link
In comment 12750974 japanhead said:
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stubborn, is overly loyal to ineffective ageing players, or hard working practice guys with low ceilings, his 4-RB rotation was awful to watch in action, and he's had every coaching change made under his tenure forced on him by management. this is a coach who had to be forced to fire bill sheridan. it was time for him to go years ago.


This!
You Know  
Bernie : 1/9/2016 10:04 am : link
listening to everything that has been said this week has me thinking that TC would be better in a front office capacity and off the sideline. He views himself and his a job as "a builder of men" in addition to winning games. Thats all fine and dandy, but this is the NFL and your job, first and foremost, is to WIN. I'm not saying you have a roster of felons, but it just sounds too me like this whole father figure thing became the primary focus.
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