please please someone ask McAdoo about the Strength and Conditioning and Medical Staff .. if there will be firings because of the horrific job they have done the past few years
saying stuff which sounds positive but doesn't really pin him down. He's dodged a couple of question which could easily have put a millstone around his neck, when Coughlin first took over he wasn't any where near as prosaic
That he wouldn't say anything about Spags? Philbin makes sense because he's probably not under contract. Why not say anything about a guy already under contract? (Spags)
players and coaches. That's one of the reasons you see 'trees' - not just because good coaching recruits bright people, but because they have an opportunity to learn from the best.
That he wouldn't say anything about Spags? Philbin makes sense because he's probably not under contract. Why not say anything about a guy already under contract? (Spags)
Kind of hard to wholeheartedly endorse such a historically bad defense, even with the lack of talent available to Spags.
That he wouldn't say anything about Spags? Philbin makes sense because he's probably not under contract. Why not say anything about a guy already under contract? (Spags)
It makes sense - until you have the decisions settled out for all, you should probably refrain from making any statements. This way, people can't pick you apart and say 'well, if you decided on X what's taking Y so long'.
That he wouldn't say anything about Spags? Philbin makes sense because he's probably not under contract. Why not say anything about a guy already under contract? (Spags)
Floodgates. You start answering one question about coordinators and coaches, and that's all you'll be asked. Far easier to put a hold on all those questions.
He hinted about Spags during the Q&A
Reiterates that the staff situation is fluid re: Spags
happy with this hire. Seems like he has the right approach and attitude. Understands the issues and seems dedicated and smart enough to start fixing them. Go get 'em Ben.
But then mentions a second year in the same system being good for the players.
Yes, I tend to think the remark about a second year in the same defensive system is more telling than sticking to the "staff is fluid" line.
Yeah pretty sure he either purposefully or accidentally confirmed Spags is likely staying as DC... or was at least dropping a hint as to why it would make sense for Spags to stay...
So the rumpled suit look fits his personality. Since no one can satisfy everyone, if he came out in a Hugo Boss suit pressed and dapper, there'd be comments about how slick he is or what a shark he looks like and he's too flashy, etc.
Gimme a guy who goes Belichick style in terms of attire on the sidelines. It suits the NY Football Giants just fine, IMO.
what a bunch of ridiculous comments on this site over the past week or so about McAdoo's hair, his suit, his mustache.... Jerry Reese should have worn a tie, Matt Patricia's beard has to go... and on and on... You sound like a bunch of Joan River's wannabes or a dress code enforcer at some repressive boarding school in a Roger Waters movie. STFU!
I remember TC's introductory press conference, and honestly this one is better in my opinion. I thought Coughlin came off as a raving lunatic and used his presser to air out his grievances and manifesto at the world.
all but said it will be Spags "in the second year of this system."
He did. But he had to say the staff is fluid thing because that is already what he said in addressing Philbin. Sounds to me like Philbin is not a sure thing.
Are the Mara/Reese Q&A's not online? I don't see the video.
contract. That would imply someone's going to race in and grab Spags out from under us - which I'm going to go ahead and assume is not going to happen.
That was just to quash speculation on specific coaches. When he's done with his staff, he'll announce and then take whatever questions (and criticism) come with it.
and he reaffirmed my thoughts about him all along. I would have been sick if he left our organization. There is no doubt he's an up and comer and another team would have taken him. Very smart move by the front office.
I suspect the first year will be less than fans hope, but I truly believe the team will be headed in the right direction...and of course, that is holding up the Lombardi trophy.
I have to say I like what I'm reading about McAdoo. I'm sold he's the correct guy to "right the ship".
McAdoo seems to be targeting the right mix IMHO, of respecting the good that Coughlin did, while not being afraid to make the changes he feels are necessary and be his own man.
Given how young McAdoo is, he could (hopefully) have a very long, successful career with the Giants.
Very best wishes to McAdoo. Go Giants !!!
RE: RE: RE: Probably because there are far more important
and while I was leaning more towards a "big fish" type name, none were available and we are probably still better off when considering the Eli factor.
Our head coach and quarterback now have a two year head start as they enter the first year as HC/QB. Eli has excelled in this system, his mechanics have improved, his production has gone up and his mistakes have gone down.
I think Eli and Mac have to focus alot of work on the Red Zone, Eli especially (most of his mistakes took place on the door step of points) but there is reason to be excited.
Among the many needs this team has is a big TE who doesnt fumble and get the ball taken away from him like Donnell. Tye is a good guy to keep around but hopefully we bring in a playmaker here.
I feel like we just promoted the next Reid/McCarthy. Time will of course, tell.
he lost a bunch of weight and hasn't gotten a new suit yet.
Anyway, pretty good PC. He came across as a serious, determined guy with alittle bit of humor mixed in. IMO you can't really tell much from these things. But so far so good. Let's see what happens.
"The first thing we have to do is get Ben some players." - John Mara
and Reese is the one responsible (or at least mostly responsible) for the roster ...
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Jerry Reese: "When things go bad with the personnel, it's my fault. Last week we couldn't get that right. It's my fault."
Why didn't the Giants fire the GM when they fired the head coach?
Can't the press restate what was just said and ask the question?
The answer can't be that Reese build two Super Bowl winners because Coughlin coached two Super Bowl winners.
Time to give it a rest. JR is here this year, right or wrong. They seemed to get it right the last two years by changing the type of player they wanted. If TC, JM, JR all were trying for the "athlete" over the "football" player then it is a shared error - organizational error. Now they were looking for football players who were leaders on their college teams. Still going to have misses, but more chances on keeping players on the roster.
McAdoo was already getting interest as a HC when we hired
him to be our OC - didn't he interview with Cleveland for their HC position?
I don't think for a second that the Eagles interest in him wasn't genuine. If anything, maybe the Eagles were trying to import both him and TC, with the thinking that they could pull off the same transition we were trying to make.
don't misunderstand my point. Eagles seem to have legit interest. But I didn't think their interest accelerated the hiring. I thought once Jackson dropped out, they had finished making their decisions.
Mara seems to be implying that McAdoo could have indeed jumped ship.
Was very impressive in that Presser. My only issue is if they don't allow him to make big changes on the staff. if you make him keep Sullivan and Spags. Then none of the other Assistants should stay
But, he did a fine job in this press conference. He was understandably nervous at the start, but he got his points across and seemed to handle the press pretty well. A couple of things:
1) Was anyone else surprised after naming a number of players, not mentioning OBJ? I don't think it was indicative of anything. I just thought it odd.
2) I noticed the suit immediately, but I don't care one bit.
3) It still doesn't sit well with me that ownership keeps stressing personnel, yet the GM and personnel staff remain seemingly unscathed.
4) I like the reload as opposed to rebuild. the Giants seem ready and willing to try to compete and win the division this season, instead of building over a few years. I agree with this, given their cap room.
why should he have named OBJ? As an OC, he is going to work with Eli a lot more. Plus, factor in all the GB crew, I figured he would name ELi. I didn't expect him to name anyone else except Eli.
I don't think it was indicative of anything. But, he named several WRs and TEs from GB and only Eli here. No big deal. I just expected OBJ, as his play is a big reason the offense has looked as good as it has.
Came across as nervous at the start with the prepared statement, but really showed poise on the Q/A part. Quick witted and composed. Kind of sounded like TC, Belichick, McCarthy type. We aren't get Tomsula'd here thank god.
terms of his deep voice and cadence, he reminded me of Ray Handley.
That's before my time, but I meant in terms of answering questions quickly, concisely and without giving out too much, he reminded me of those three. Voice wise, I have no clue. lol
I Think Like the Other major Sports teams the Giants Yesterday should have had someone make sure he looked good for the PC.
Its not hard to get a nice suit in NYC in a day and a hair stylist. They should have taken care to present a Giants image.
Look at Toms PC He looked like he came off Wall St.
RE: How many Super Bowls did Coughlin win without Jerry ...
Well how many Super Bowls did Reese win without Coughlin. Answer: zero. You're making my point.
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
RE: Really tired of people who think the definition of accountability
I think the problem with the Giants' front office and some coaches is they're treated as if the have tenure! The New York Football Giants is a business, not a charity. Firings should be a last resort at times, but I can definitely see demotions, or reassignments of duties.
about the goddamned suit? Some of you clowns continue to focus on all the wrong stuff. It's exhausting.
He just handled that press conference perfectly. It's not about answering questions with any specific points - it's about introducing himself to fans and players and beginning to establish clear lines of delineation between him and the media. McAdoo looked to be in COMPLETE control of that room.
And yet the mouthbreathing clownshoes on BBI are focused on a suit. You know who you are. And THAT'S why people can't stand you here on BBI.
I don't think it was indicative of anything. But, he named several WRs and TEs from GB and only Eli here. No big deal. I just expected OBJ, as his play is a big reason the offense has looked as good as it has.
No, I didn't take it as that. I was just implying as an OC you are going to work closer with your QB than a WR. The QB is the guy that has to execute the system overall. OBJ would be working more with the WR coach. I think longevity helped create relationships in GB so he had a lot more guys to name there than here. I wouldn't really expect him to name OBJ.
And, yes, my use of the word "reactionary" was incorrect.
Well how many Super Bowls did Reese win without Coughlin. Answer: zero. You're making my point.
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
No one was prepared for that. A new GM meant either (a) a complete overhaul which could involve trading Eli Manning for draft picks and doing a rebuild from the ground up or (b) Jawn and Stevie Ray placing pre-conditions on a GM which would have made hiring a GM problematical. Reese is willing to live with Bert and Ernie's interference in football operations, and so he gets to stay.
RE: RE: How many Super Bowls did Coughlin win without Jerry ...
Well how many Super Bowls did Reese win without Coughlin. Answer: zero. You're making my point.
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
Only a matter of time until they smarten up and realize a complete overhaul was/is necessary.
team some damn talent. No matter how good the coaching is, if the talent is dogshit, we will see dogshit play. Here's to hoping some certain players do not get franchised this offseason
im not sure guys from western PA worry about tailored suits. He probably felt like a million bucks up there in his suit. Imagine how bad hes gonna feel when he reads on bbi all you guys picking on his appearance? :)
in suits that didn't fit. That's why there were comments made.
This is NY and you do dress for success. Calling people idiots for they're comments just reflects on one's immaturity and certainly lack of business acumen. No one was questioning Ben's football IQ we're glad to have him
If choice of suit and haircut is the worse criticisms we ever have,
*Did very little besides Eli Manning and Odell Beckham (who let's face it, would produce for anyone). Appeared to comically force-feed Beckham/fail to develop any other part of the offense. Did not use Vereen effectively.
*Did NOTHING when Beckham had his melt-down on the sideline. (Was he hiding under a bench somewhere?)
*Does not *appear* to have the personality of a Head Coach
*Neither Mara or Reese said anything particularly great about the guy. None of the players other than "company man" Eli said anything - and of course Eli doesn't want to re-learn another offense.
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now, maybe he's the next Lombardi but IMO this hire is terrifying and has big time Ray Handley potential. hope I'm wrong-I never really saw the big deal w/him so maybe I'm biased
Well how many Super Bowls did Reese win without Coughlin. Answer: zero. You're making my point.
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
Um no. We know Coughlin hasn't won one without Reese. We don't know that about Reese yet. We'll see now
can we stick to talking about McAdoo here? Trainmaster (aka Choo Choo Boy), and Jeffy Poo, stop your incessant bitching about Reese. He's here, your constant bitching isn't going to change any of that. Be a good fan, and see how this plays out. I hope we win the fucking division this year, so I could throw this shit back in your faces.
if you cant tell that from his Q&A you are too stupid to deal with , enjoy your citizenship in stupidville and all the rights and benefits that come with it
So I hate that I watched that entire press conference and couldn't get away from the fact that McAdoo's demeanor reminds me a lot of Cowher's.
You negative Nancies never quit. But I have a really good feeling about McAdoo as the top guy. I get the impression he's going to let it all hang out and we're going to get a much better look at who this guy is, and can be as a head coach.
You ain't kidding. Can we stop asking why Reese wasn't fired already??? The Giants have their reasons in keeping Reese just accept it
The Giants have had their reasons for doing what they've done the past three years and the results have been shit so them having their reasons isn't a very compelling argument.
He would need to start acting like a GM first.
MSG,SNY
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Hi Ginny Poo.
I pass it on the way to Rutland.
Sounds like Ben McAdoo, #Giants leaning toward making a change at offensive line coach. Nothing official, but options being considered.
I guess you'd have to have a considerable drive in you to hang on as a fringe NFLer after being touted as a star.
Maybe he's considering coaching after his playing days are done.
LOL!
Well, where do you expect someone to find a suit in NYC on short notice...
Well, you're an idiot, so color me shocked.
I like his demeanor though
Agree 100%
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Well, you're an idiot, so color me shocked.
idiot,really.why are you so thin skinned? grow up, it freakin sports.
Did the same for Philbin.
Sounds like nothing is final yet.
Funny comments too.
I love that, let's get it started.
You're right. Reading the speech wasn't his thing, but he's handled the off the cuff questions well.
Kind of hard to wholeheartedly endorse such a historically bad defense, even with the lack of talent available to Spags.
I'm getting more and more sold on him the more BBI gets upset at him for completely benign reasons.
it is mostly positive.
It doesn't mean anything. Just an observation that it's a two size too big suit.
It makes sense - until you have the decisions settled out for all, you should probably refrain from making any statements. This way, people can't pick you apart and say 'well, if you decided on X what's taking Y so long'.
You can bust on him for his appearance, nobody gives a shit how he looks as long as he wins. Parcells wasn't winning any beauty contests.
Floodgates. You start answering one question about coordinators and coaches, and that's all you'll be asked. Far easier to put a hold on all those questions.
He hinted about Spags during the Q&A
I'm not sure if Spags is in the plans guys..
I'm not sure if Spags is in the plans guys..
He also said being in the same system for a second season will help guys. So he's staying. Might just be contract stuff
Yes, I tend to think the remark about a second year in the same defensive system is more telling than sticking to the "staff is fluid" line.
I was thinking the same thing.... haha...
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But then mentions a second year in the same system being good for the players.
Yes, I tend to think the remark about a second year in the same defensive system is more telling than sticking to the "staff is fluid" line.
Yeah pretty sure he either purposefully or accidentally confirmed Spags is likely staying as DC... or was at least dropping a hint as to why it would make sense for Spags to stay...
Gimme a guy who goes Belichick style in terms of attire on the sidelines. It suits the NY Football Giants just fine, IMO.
Good Luck Ben!
I'd make fun of a coworker if he came to work in a bad suit.
I'm not sure if anyone "cares"... it was just glaringly obvious to everyone as soon as he stepped up on the podium..
Not like anyone is saying "ohh he isn't well dressed, what a terrible hire" they are just saying "ha, dude isn't a suit guy" "needs a tailor", etc"..
No big deal.. just simple observations..
I'd make fun of a coworker if he came to work in a bad suit.
Exactly...
That was just to quash speculation on specific coaches. When he's done with his staff, he'll announce and then take whatever questions (and criticism) come with it.
A good approach, IMO.
I suspect the first year will be less than fans hope, but I truly believe the team will be headed in the right direction...and of course, that is holding up the Lombardi trophy.
McAdoo's suit, since it concerns so many of you, is an older one. He said it's loose b/c he's lost weight. How much? "About a third-grader."
"The first thing we have to do is get Ben some players." - John Mara
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 6m6 minutes ago East Rutherford, NJ
Jerry Reese: "When things go bad with the personnel, it's my fault. Last week we couldn't get that right. It's my fault."
Sure there were. Don't see how one observation means you can't make others.
"Ben is a teacher and he has an edge to him. He's not afraid to show a temper." - John Mara
New York Giants @Giants 12m12 minutes ago
"Ben knows where we need to improve. He's not afraid to voice his opinions." - John Mara
On the ill-fitting suit: Ben McAdoo says it fit him about 60 pounds ago, admits he rarely wears em.
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things to be paying attention to in that PC than what he is wearing. Maybe it's just some of us, though..
Sure there were. Don't see how one observation means you can't make others.
You can. But that one in particular doesn't seem very important. Especially when the same people chastise ESPN and NFL Network for doing the same..
I have to say I like what I'm reading about McAdoo. I'm sold he's the correct guy to "right the ship".
McAdoo seems to be targeting the right mix IMHO, of respecting the good that Coughlin did, while not being afraid to make the changes he feels are necessary and be his own man.
Given how young McAdoo is, he could (hopefully) have a very long, successful career with the Giants.
Very best wishes to McAdoo. Go Giants !!!
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things to be paying attention to in that PC than what he is wearing. Maybe it's just some of us, though..
Sure there were. Don't see how one observation means you can't make others.
You can. But that one in particular doesn't seem very important.
I would love it if more job interviewers thought like you, to be honest.
Our head coach and quarterback now have a two year head start as they enter the first year as HC/QB. Eli has excelled in this system, his mechanics have improved, his production has gone up and his mistakes have gone down.
I think Eli and Mac have to focus alot of work on the Red Zone, Eli especially (most of his mistakes took place on the door step of points) but there is reason to be excited.
Among the many needs this team has is a big TE who doesnt fumble and get the ball taken away from him like Donnell. Tye is a good guy to keep around but hopefully we bring in a playmaker here.
I feel like we just promoted the next Reid/McCarthy. Time will of course, tell.
Good luck Ben McAdoo
Ben Macadoo was like a father to me while in Greenbay.
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things to be paying attention to in that PC than what he is wearing. Maybe it's just some of us, though..
Sure there were. Don't see how one observation means you can't make others.
You can. But that one in particular doesn't seem very important. Especially when the same people chastise ESPN and NFL Network for doing the same..
Not important... just funny.
Commenting on something doesn't meant its "important"
Mara admits Giants accelerated the second interview with McAdoo due to the Eagles interest in him.
If the problem is the roster ...
and Reese is the one responsible (or at least mostly responsible) for the roster ...
Why didn't the Giants fire the GM when they fired the head coach?
Can't the press restate what was just said and ask the question?
The answer can't be that Reese build two Super Bowl winners because Coughlin coached two Super Bowl winners.
John Mara said Ben McAdoo's second interview was supposed to be Thursday. When they heard of Eagles' interest, they pushed it up a day.
John Mara says Tom Coughlin's recommendation played a large part in McAdoo's hiring #Giants
Ben McAdoo's deal with the #Giants is for 4 years
Anyway, pretty good PC. He came across as a serious, determined guy with alittle bit of humor mixed in. IMO you can't really tell much from these things. But so far so good. Let's see what happens.
Lengthy explanation in Tom Coughlin's book.
"The first thing we have to do is get Ben some players." - John Mara
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 6m6 minutes ago East Rutherford, NJ
Jerry Reese: "When things go bad with the personnel, it's my fault. Last week we couldn't get that right. It's my fault."
"we couldn't"? :-)
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Lengthy explanation in Tom Coughlin's book.
Cool. Mind giving me a cliff notes?
John Mara says Tom Coughlin's recommendation played a large part in McAdoo's hiring #Giants
was the factor that made him the lead from the start.
Get some players on D and don't forget to improve the offense too. We've got the high draft pick and the cap room to get it done!
Round 1 and Round 2 starters and quality FAs.
And PLEASE do something about conditioning and training!
If the problem is the roster ...
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"The first thing we have to do is get Ben some players." - John Mara
and Reese is the one responsible (or at least mostly responsible) for the roster ...
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Jerry Reese: "When things go bad with the personnel, it's my fault. Last week we couldn't get that right. It's my fault."
Why didn't the Giants fire the GM when they fired the head coach?
Can't the press restate what was just said and ask the question?
The answer can't be that Reese build two Super Bowl winners because Coughlin coached two Super Bowl winners.
Time to give it a rest. JR is here this year, right or wrong. They seemed to get it right the last two years by changing the type of player they wanted. If TC, JM, JR all were trying for the "athlete" over the "football" player then it is a shared error - organizational error. Now they were looking for football players who were leaders on their college teams. Still going to have misses, but more chances on keeping players on the roster.
I don't think for a second that the Eagles interest in him wasn't genuine. If anything, maybe the Eagles were trying to import both him and TC, with the thinking that they could pull off the same transition we were trying to make.
Mara seems to be implying that McAdoo could have indeed jumped ship.
But I prob dont know what I'm talking about.
"Its a competitive advantage to tell the opponent if I am going to call plays."
Ugh, what? They will find out the first preseason game.
If the problem is the roster ...
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"The first thing we have to do is get Ben some players." - John Mara
and Reese is the one responsible (or at least mostly responsible) for the roster ...
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Jerry Reese: "When things go bad with the personnel, it's my fault. Last week we couldn't get that right. It's my fault."
Why didn't the Giants fire the GM when they fired the head coach?
Can't the press restate what was just said and ask the question?
The answer can't be that Reese build two Super Bowl winners because Coughlin coached two Super Bowl winners.
How many Super Bowls did Coughlin win without Jerry?
1) Was anyone else surprised after naming a number of players, not mentioning OBJ? I don't think it was indicative of anything. I just thought it odd.
2) I noticed the suit immediately, but I don't care one bit.
3) It still doesn't sit well with me that ownership keeps stressing personnel, yet the GM and personnel staff remain seemingly unscathed.
4) I like the reload as opposed to rebuild. the Giants seem ready and willing to try to compete and win the division this season, instead of building over a few years. I agree with this, given their cap room.
best post of the day!
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LOL. Makes it sound like they picked his name out of a hat. Dan Graziano added,
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel
Jerry being Jerry. Why Ben over the other options? "All the guys were good. it was nothing in particular about it."
Dan Graziano Retweeted Ebenezer Samuel
LOL. Makes it sound like they picked his name out of a hat. Dan Graziano added,
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel
Jerry being Jerry. Why Ben over the other options? "All the guys were good. it was nothing in particular about it."
That's how he makes his picks in rounds 3-7.
Dan Graziano Retweeted Ebenezer Samuel
LOL. Makes it sound like they picked his name out of a hat. Dan Graziano added,
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel
Jerry being Jerry. Why Ben over the other options? "All the guys were good. it was nothing in particular about it."
What do people expect him to say. He had as much to do with picking the coach as the people on this board
John Mara: "Listen, I know what our roster looks like. I know it has to get a hell of a lot better."
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 4m4 minutes ago
Mara says players are always happy when a new coach arrives. "Their job is to make me happy."
When Hue Jackson backed out of Thursday interview, Giants tried to move Ben's 2nd interview to that spot. Called him Wed to schedule....
John Mara: "Listen, I know what our roster looks like. I know it has to get a hell of a lot better."
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 4m4 minutes ago
Mara says players are always happy when a new coach arrives. "Their job is to make me happy."
Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 52s52 seconds ago
John Mara on the thought of Tom Coughlin maybe coaching the Eagles: "Im not going to lie, it wouldve bothered me a lot."
(You don't fire them now ... the college season is over and they are putting together their final reports).
John Mara says there will be some changes on the staff. Giants are continuing to evaluate personnel side. #Giants
He doesn't clean up well, holy shit.....
not that it matters, just kinda funny
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Winner: Worst post of the day!!! :-)
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Ralph Vacchiano @RVacchianoNYDN 43s44 seconds ago
John Mara: "Listen, I know what our roster looks like. I know it has to get a hell of a lot better."
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 4m4 minutes ago
Mara says players are always happy when a new coach arrives. "Their job is to make me happy."
Then again, why do Reese and all the personnel dept. have jobs?
Because he isn't going to fire his brother
That's before my time, but I meant in terms of answering questions quickly, concisely and without giving out too much, he reminded me of those three. Voice wise, I have no clue. lol
He doesn't clean up well, holy shit.....
not that it matters, just kinda funny
When you have a suit 3 sizes bigger than you and don't really care about grooming much, you can still look pretty badly.
I honestly didn't even notice what he was wearing until I came on here. You guys are too much sometimes man. lol
He doesn't clean up well, holy shit.....
not that it matters, just kinda funny
I Think Like the Other major Sports teams the Giants Yesterday should have had someone make sure he looked good for the PC.
Its not hard to get a nice suit in NYC in a day and a hair stylist. They should have taken care to present a Giants image.
Look at Toms PC He looked like he came off Wall St.
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
Okay what's your definition of accountability??
I think the problem with the Giants' front office and some coaches is they're treated as if the have tenure! The New York Football Giants is a business, not a charity. Firings should be a last resort at times, but I can definitely see demotions, or reassignments of duties.
Tisch: "... He seems appropriately fearless."
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 4m4 minutes ago
Steve Tisch: "He seems appropriately vicious."
He just handled that press conference perfectly. It's not about answering questions with any specific points - it's about introducing himself to fans and players and beginning to establish clear lines of delineation between him and the media. McAdoo looked to be in COMPLETE control of that room.
And yet the mouthbreathing clownshoes on BBI are focused on a suit. You know who you are. And THAT'S why people can't stand you here on BBI.
Tisch on Coughlin: "As the 16th head coach, it was a spectacular run. But at the same time, it was time for a change."
Steve Tisch on Tom Coughlin's departure: "I like change. Change is organic and not arbitrary. I felt it was time for the next chapter."
Mara admits Giants accelerated the second interview with McAdoo due to the Eagles interest in him.
As I said in my post yesterday...everything the Giants have done appears to be in reaction to the Eagles' moves.
No, I didn't take it as that. I was just implying as an OC you are going to work closer with your QB than a WR. The QB is the guy that has to execute the system overall. OBJ would be working more with the WR coach. I think longevity helped create relationships in GB so he had a lot more guys to name there than here. I wouldn't really expect him to name OBJ.
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
Only a matter of time until they smarten up and realize a complete overhaul was/is necessary.
Not sure why he nickname Slingblade never stuck.
The guy knocked the opening press conference out of the park. That was the easy part. Now the real work begins.
A reactive move, in and of itself, is not a negative.
This is NY and you do dress for success. Calling people idiots for they're comments just reflects on one's immaturity and certainly lack of business acumen. No one was questioning Ben's football IQ we're glad to have him
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I think I prefer that to Accorsi faxing out copies of his draft board to the media.
*Only 2 years as Offensive Coordinator.
*Never been a Head Coach at any level.
*Has no running game.
*Did very little besides Eli Manning and Odell Beckham (who let's face it, would produce for anyone). Appeared to comically force-feed Beckham/fail to develop any other part of the offense. Did not use Vereen effectively.
*Did NOTHING when Beckham had his melt-down on the sideline. (Was he hiding under a bench somewhere?)
*Does not *appear* to have the personality of a Head Coach
*Neither Mara or Reese said anything particularly great about the guy. None of the players other than "company man" Eli said anything - and of course Eli doesn't want to re-learn another offense.
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now, maybe he's the next Lombardi but IMO this hire is terrifying and has big time Ray Handley potential. hope I'm wrong-I never really saw the big deal w/him so maybe I'm biased
It's not the dress it's who you perform.
IF you give them both credit for success, you have to give them both credit for the failure. Keep both or fire both.
A stronger case can be made that Coughlin won one Super Bowl with Accorsi's team (2007) and one with Reese's team (2011), while Reese is only responsible for one Super Bowl as GM (2011).
Um no. We know Coughlin hasn't won one without Reese. We don't know that about Reese yet. We'll see now
It's not the dress it's who you perform.
Omg really?
You ain't kidding. Can we stop asking why Reese wasn't fired already??? The Giants have their reasons in keeping Reese just accept it
So I hate that I watched that entire press conference and couldn't get away from the fact that McAdoo's demeanor reminds me a lot of Cowher's.
You negative Nancies never quit. But I have a really good feeling about McAdoo as the top guy. I get the impression he's going to let it all hang out and we're going to get a much better look at who this guy is, and can be as a head coach.
I'm pumped!
Gary Shirk was a TE from the 70s.
I watched him play. And drop a lot of passes. And listen to Dad swear a lot. lol
Shadow and Sundayatone should have their man card revoked.
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can only be firings.
You ain't kidding. Can we stop asking why Reese wasn't fired already??? The Giants have their reasons in keeping Reese just accept it
The Giants have had their reasons for doing what they've done the past three years and the results have been shit so them having their reasons isn't a very compelling argument.
You left out top ten. As in the offense was top ten in the entire NFL despite some clear shortcomings.