I don't think the Giants usually announce these things, so they usually trickle in compared to signings. League year officially starts March 9th (legal tampering allowed on March 6th) so any moves will certainly be done by then.
Beatty and Cruz have no 2016 roster bonus, and the Giants don't currently need the cap space from their salaries. So the smart play is just to wait and see how their rehab goes. The only real risk is that they might get hurt again, putting the team on the hook for more dead money, but that's easily solved by holding them out of mini-camp (and keeping Beatty away from the big-boy weights).
Beason might happen at the start of the League year, since I doubt he still figures in the team's plans. Even with him, there's little pressure. I don't recall whether the re-do of his contract last year converted his 2016 roster bonus to playing-time incentives as it did with his 2015 payment. Doesn't really matter - he's not going to see any of that money anyway.
Beatty and Cruz have no 2016 roster bonus, and the Giants don't currently need the cap space from their salaries. So the smart play is just to wait and see how their rehab goes. The only real risk is that they might get hurt again, putting the team on the hook for more dead money, but that's easily solved by holding them out of mini-camp (and keeping Beatty away from the big-boy weights).
Beason might happen at the start of the League year, since I doubt he still figures in the team's plans. Even with him, there's little pressure. I don't recall whether the re-do of his contract last year converted his 2016 roster bonus to playing-time incentives as it did with his 2015 payment. Doesn't really matter - he's not going to see any of that money anyway.
Beason has a $1M roster bonus due in March per OTC. So with him we'll know by then.
As for the other two, it likely depends on what they plan to do. If there's a chance they cut them outright (probably slim), the Giants would likely due it before March to give them a chance to latch on elsewhere. If they're just thinking about "forcing" paycuts, they could wait. I'd be surprised if Cruz doesn't take some sort of paycut, even if most of it is just converted to incentives, but I'm not convinced Beatty will see one. They might just let him play out the season on his current deal.
Beatty, depends on what direction the Giants want to go....If you want one less hole to fill, you keep him......but you still do a restructure......he's not worth a 9M cap hit.....if there is a T out there in free agency, you use that 6.675M towards his replacement, hopefully someone younger, who can grow with this line....Beatty is 30.....how many years does he have left?......think a 30 year old, average LT would get anything near 6.675M on the open market after not one, but two injuries?
I think you have to approach this season, with Cruz not in the picture......he's had injuries the last three seasons.......we have had diminishing returns on him the last three seasons....we have paid him 22M for 96 catches, 1300 yards, and 5 TDs....He has to take a pay cut, and if he is able to come back and play, it's a bonus......but if you DEPEND on him again, and he fails, shame on us.....
Time to move on from Schwartz......there isn't one linebacker on this team that is not irreplaceable.......unfortunately, you can't cut them all....
Beatty, depends on what direction the Giants want to go....If you want one less hole to fill, you keep him......but you still do a restructure......he's not worth a 9M cap hit.....if there is a T out there in free agency, you use that 6.675M towards his replacement, hopefully someone younger, who can grow with this line....Beatty is 30.....how many years does he have left?......think a 30 year old, average LT would get anything near 6.675M on the open market after not one, but two injuries?
Where are you getting $6.675M from? I'm only seeing $4.175M in savings from cutting Beatty. And yes, I think he could get that on the open market for 2-3 years.
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I think you have to approach this season, with Cruz not in the picture......he's had injuries the last three seasons.......we have had diminishing returns on him the last three seasons....we have paid him 22M for 96 catches, 1300 yards, and 5 TDs....He has to take a pay cut, and if he is able to come back and play, it's a bonus......but if you DEPEND on him again, and he fails, shame on us.....
Time to move on from Schwartz......there isn't one linebacker on this team that is not irreplaceable.......unfortunately, you can't cut them all....
As for cutting guys like Casillas, why bother? The cap savings aren't that great and you need depth (Giants fans should know this better than anyone). It's not like the Giants need the money to make moves. Casillas, Herzlich, Jerry, Newhouse, etc. will likely all be coming to camp. If they get beat out there...cut them. Until then, there's little to gain.
-Beatty will be offered a pay cut. If he says no, they will look for a replacement (i.e. Glenn). If they get Glenn (or maybe Schwartz) then Beatty is gone. If Beatty takes the pay cut, they probably will not try to replace him.
-Cruz will not happen until after they re-evaluate him and I have no idea when they can/will do that. He will be asked to take a pay cut regardless but how much will depend on how he's doing. If it's bad they will cut him.
-Beason will be cut or massive pay cut. Guessing late February.
-JPP (although you didn't ask) will be similar to Cruz. See how he's progressing with that hand. The offer will be relative to his use of that hand. Another team could offer more.
I wouldn't bet the farm Beatty and Cruz accept cuts.
I wouldn't be surprised if Beason announces his retirement soon. Who'd pick him up if he's cut? Why would the Giants keep him with his salary & injury history. I don't even think they offer a pay cut, probably not even the vet minimum!
but Beatty and Cruz may refuse to take cuts. I hope they do but I wouldn't count on it.
I'm sure they'll balk, but the Giants do have some leverage, at least with Cruz. Beatty can probably get a 3-4 year deal with reasonable money ($6M+ per), but no way Cruz is getting anywhere close to $7.9M in FA this season.
If they still consider him a viable nickel LB, and not just a special teamer, they will pay his roster bonus and his contractual salary with few misgivings. He doesn't need to be a star to justify his contract - just the fourth-best linebacker on the team. If they push him to take a salary cut before paying the roster bonus, it means his role was probably going to diminish. Casillas shouldn't be a full-time player, and I don't think he should be judged on his performance as one.
I have a similar view of J.T. Thomas. As a versatile sub who can play all three positions and contribute on specials, he's an asset - maybe even worth low-end starter money, because in this league your primary backups tend to play a lot.
The Giants still need to replace Beason and McClain and find a way to keep Kennard on the field; then I'll worry about replacing the guys who should be backups, even if they are overpaid for their proper roles.
not for any reason other than the guy seems certain to retire. He sounded like he's in a good place and enjoying the time he's spending with his young family.
Good for him - his body didn't do him any favors and that hurt us, but I wish him well.
With the cap room the Giants have and the quality options they don't have at LB, I don't see a strong case for cutting them before training camp. Thomas has no roster bonus and Casillas is only due $250k so carrying them through preseason doesn't "cost" much. If the LB depth is drastically improved between now and then, then cut them and recoup the little bit of cap space, but as of now the only LB ahead of them on the depth chart is Kennard who can't stay healthy and I don't see the Giants signing/drafting 4-5 LBs to knock them off the roster.
The $4.1 million saved isn't worth having to fill another hole and even backup tackles don't come cheap. The versatility offered by having Beatty is worth the $4.1 million. If he's fit then we concentrate on getting a guard, and draft another late round developmental tackle/guard in the vein of Hart.
Now if you can get Glenn then maybe that's a different story, and by all means attempt a bit of hard ball with Beatty to see if he bites.
In comment 12789212 Doomster said:
[quote] Casillas?
No doubt Beason is cut......
Beatty, depends on what direction the Giants want to go....If you want one less hole to fill, you keep him......but you still do a restructure......he's not worth a 9M cap hit.....if there is a T out there in free agency, you use that 6.675M towards his replacement, hopefully someone younger, who can grow with this line....Beatty is 30.....how many years does he have left?......think a 30 year old, average LT would get anything near 6.675M on the open market after not one, but two injuries? [/qoute]
Just who are you going to get that's as good as Beatty for less money? Don't forget, Beatty slots right into LT, and he's certainly better than average. Considerably better than average for the relative pittance he's making. And his injuries are hardly the type to be lingering.
Where are you getting $6.675M from? I'm only seeing $4.175M in savings from cutting Beatty. And yes, I think he could get that on the open market for 2-3 years.
If you make Beatty a post June first cut, you split his dead money over two years, so you have 6.675m to use in 2016....
Beatty is average at best....coming back from two upper body injuries? No way he gets that kind of money at 30 years of age....
If you make Beatty a post June first cut, you split his dead money over two years, so you have 6.675m to use in 2016...
With the liberalized carry-over rules, that stuff only matters if a team is hard against the cap.
Abrams might get some minor salary concessions from Beatty, but the real question is whether he still figures as the starting left tackle. If he does, you pay the man. If there's a better option - on the roster or in free agency - you move on. The position is too important for a team with ample cap space to quibble over a million or two.
not sure why everyone wants to cut him. We clearly would have been a better team with him on the field this year. Given our cap space you could trade him and absorb the acceleration if need be. The guy has value.
One thing is really clear in the league this year - almost no one has enough good O-linemen.
The deciding factor could really be Flowers. If they think Flowers can take a big step forward and be an average LT in 2016, then cutting Beatty and looking for a RT in free agency (much cheaper) may be the best option.
If they think Flowers will be better served at RT in 2016, then it'll be hard to move on from Beatty since a replacement is likely costing $8-10M per season (at least).
Both need to be restructured.To much dead money and they can both be players,and we need players.
Beason cut,we all agree on that.I would re sign JPP and Prince as long as they don't get carried away with what their looking for.
As for free agents,let's get one more OL and we will be set.One WR,one TE.
Now on D,Safety has to be a priority in FA,a quality LB,and a pass rushing DL.
The draft,looks like there are three CB'S who could be top ten picks,wouldn't mind one of them in the first and then a DL or LB in the second.
In comment 12789296 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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not sure why everyone wants to cut him. We clearly would have been a better team with him on the field this year. Given our cap space you could trade him and absorb the acceleration if need be. The guy has value.
One thing is really clear in the league this year - almost no one has enough good O-linemen.
I'd be all for retaining Beatty, if not for the injury concern. He's been hurt a lot. If there was any chance he'd be healthy going forward, paying what he's under contract to have a guy who could play at either tackle position at a decent level would be well worth it.
but here is what I do with Beatty if he doesn't accept a pay cut.
You sit and wait until all the money dries up and then you cut him the day before camp. Supposedly he opted for surgery instead of gutting it out. Cutting a vet early is a courtesy. We are not required to do that.
$50m is a lot of money. We can afford to sit on Beatty for awhile as we wouldn't need the money until the season starts anyway.
If we have JPP or Prince over a barrel and can dictate terms I'd consider their return. If not acquire their replacements on the open market. I'd say this scenario is more likely to play out in JPP's situation on a one year deal to prove he can grip and tackle to earn his money.
Schwartz has been a bust he's been hurt most of the time and played like a turd the rest of the time.
keep Beatty, unless the Giants think he'll never play at his old level. As someone said, we have the cap space, and most teams don't have adequate OL. Not sure about Schwartz, but my guess is the Giants keep both. We can then devote our FA money WR and defense.
Cruz will be restructured, or cut if he's really unhealthy. He might also be cut at the end of camp if he hasn't regained his explosion.
Beason will be cut.
The concern about bringing back Jerry, Newhouse, and a bunch of other veterans is that they're taking snaps from other players we should be developing.
Keep Beatty, the rest are disposable. I say keep Cruz, but who knows what's left, a flyer contract to make the team are we bring in a number 2 in FA. Beason is gone or done.
Benson is going to retire. The giants will indicate they aren't going to keep him, and Beason will retire instead of being cut.
Cruz will be cut only if he is unwilling to rework his deal. He needs to be a nice find/like he was as an UDFA vs. being paid as a #2 WR which he can't be counted on for.
Redo Cruz and Beatty but be realistic. These players have leverage with two years remaining in both cases. You might not care but does ownership want to be paying them a combined $13 million bucks over the next two years to if cut? I seriously doubt it. I'll be satisfied if we can squeeze a combined $5 million from them in cap savings. That should be doable and pay for them signing a MIKE backer that doesn't suck balls.
GuineaT: Cruz and Beatty have received all their guaranteed money.
Redo Cruz and Beatty but be realistic. These players have leverage with two years remaining in both cases. You might not care but does ownership want to be paying them a combined $13 million bucks over the next two years to if cut? I seriously doubt it.
Are you referring to their dead money cap hit? That's a sunk cost. The owners already paid it.
would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. Restructure, tack on another year or whatever but you need as many quality o-lineman as you can get. I'd keep him, have him start out at LT and Flowers at RT, then look to add a swing tackle with starter experience in FA, an RG and draft another within the first four rounds.
He's the current team's David Baas - good idea, at the time, but now he's got bad feet (terrible thing for a 300+ pound man) and football old. - Gone
Beason, ditto. Bad feet and football old.
Beatty is a solid vet who has proven he can play. He'll come back healthy and rested. Flowers needs to go to the right side (where he won't contend with the NFL's best speed rushers). If the Giants are lucky enough to find a dominant right guard, in the next couple of years, I think Flowers can be an ALL PRO.
Cruz - He's spent two years rehabbing, while getting the big paycheck in the mail. The team desperately needs his contribution, but he has to know he will have to restructure, to stay around.
To me seems like a contract that can easily be reworked money is simple is he playing LT or another position. If he remains at LT then performance and close to the same amount of money should make both happy. Now if he is RT or OG the money numbers are much less that's just the way it is. He is not a guy who has not produced for us when on the field if we sign another OT it's going to cost very close to his present numbers if not more. The devil you know is often much better than the devil you think could be better in the FA game.
Now Cruz is a much different no one knows if he will play, if he can be the same player or even half that player. Last year we heard I'm ahead of schedule, I'm ready to go but in reality it was in fact not this week which ended up being not this year. The major concern is that we are talking about this players number one asset breaking down on him his legs. He is not looking at a reworked contract he is looking at a massive pay cut which may not be fair to him but is in the best interest of the team. Cruz is going to be a real test for this new management because if he is once again making big money with his injury history then they are not moving forward from these injured players.
As for JPP and Schwartz they are just cut bait and move on or this is our final offer go out see what the league is offering. Now in no way does that mean they are offered contracts in the same area but let's not waste time this is our offer take it or leave it. Give them the chance to remain but if we can find someone to replace them then pull the offer off the table and wish them well. I know it sounds harsh but the days when being the nice organization has to end in some ways eventually.
but here is what I do with Beatty if he doesn't accept a pay cut.
You sit and wait until all the money dries up and then you cut him the day before camp. Supposedly he opted for surgery instead of gutting it out. Cutting a vet early is a courtesy. We are not required to do that.
$50m is a lot of money. We can afford to sit on Beatty for awhile as we wouldn't need the money until the season starts anyway.
That's a pretty shitty way to deal with Beatty. A veteran deserves a chance to at least get cut in a timely manner so he can find another job. You think other FA's would take kindly to that type of tactic?
Beason will retire, Cruz restructures or he's out,
and Beatty I'm ok with leaving his contract as is. Having Beatty start at LT, and letting Flowers settle in to RT for a year to develop will improve 2 spots on our OL at once. You have to be realistic with Cruz. Even before his injury, he was not playing his best football. He's 2 years out of action, that's a really long time to be away from a sport at its highest level. I think even offering a restructure is a generous gesture from the front office. Beason gave us one good year, but unfortunately, his body kept failing him. Sounds like he's leaning towards retirement.
Glenn is versatile enough to play OG/LT/RT. We don't need Beatty's money so there's no need to address it this year. Flowers/Pugh/Richburg/Glenn/Beatty instantly gives us one of the best OL in the league with 4 guys who can play both tackle spots at a high level.
If we need money next year to keep Pugh or someone else, move on from Beatty with a minimal cap hit.
Talent, versatility, and depth are sorely needed by this team right now. I'm not the biggest Beatty fan, but it makes sense to keep him and reevaluate next year.
paycuts its harder to say when
Beason might happen at the start of the League year, since I doubt he still figures in the team's plans. Even with him, there's little pressure. I don't recall whether the re-do of his contract last year converted his 2016 roster bonus to playing-time incentives as it did with his 2015 payment. Doesn't really matter - he's not going to see any of that money anyway.
Beason might happen at the start of the League year, since I doubt he still figures in the team's plans. Even with him, there's little pressure. I don't recall whether the re-do of his contract last year converted his 2016 roster bonus to playing-time incentives as it did with his 2015 payment. Doesn't really matter - he's not going to see any of that money anyway.
Beason has a $1M roster bonus due in March per OTC. So with him we'll know by then.
As for the other two, it likely depends on what they plan to do. If there's a chance they cut them outright (probably slim), the Giants would likely due it before March to give them a chance to latch on elsewhere. If they're just thinking about "forcing" paycuts, they could wait. I'd be surprised if Cruz doesn't take some sort of paycut, even if most of it is just converted to incentives, but I'm not convinced Beatty will see one. They might just let him play out the season on his current deal.
No doubt Beason is cut......
Beatty, depends on what direction the Giants want to go....If you want one less hole to fill, you keep him......but you still do a restructure......he's not worth a 9M cap hit.....if there is a T out there in free agency, you use that 6.675M towards his replacement, hopefully someone younger, who can grow with this line....Beatty is 30.....how many years does he have left?......think a 30 year old, average LT would get anything near 6.675M on the open market after not one, but two injuries?
I think you have to approach this season, with Cruz not in the picture......he's had injuries the last three seasons.......we have had diminishing returns on him the last three seasons....we have paid him 22M for 96 catches, 1300 yards, and 5 TDs....He has to take a pay cut, and if he is able to come back and play, it's a bonus......but if you DEPEND on him again, and he fails, shame on us.....
Time to move on from Schwartz......there isn't one linebacker on this team that is not irreplaceable.......unfortunately, you can't cut them all....
No doubt Beason is cut......
Beatty, depends on what direction the Giants want to go....If you want one less hole to fill, you keep him......but you still do a restructure......he's not worth a 9M cap hit.....if there is a T out there in free agency, you use that 6.675M towards his replacement, hopefully someone younger, who can grow with this line....Beatty is 30.....how many years does he have left?......think a 30 year old, average LT would get anything near 6.675M on the open market after not one, but two injuries?
Where are you getting $6.675M from? I'm only seeing $4.175M in savings from cutting Beatty. And yes, I think he could get that on the open market for 2-3 years.
I think you have to approach this season, with Cruz not in the picture......he's had injuries the last three seasons.......we have had diminishing returns on him the last three seasons....we have paid him 22M for 96 catches, 1300 yards, and 5 TDs....He has to take a pay cut, and if he is able to come back and play, it's a bonus......but if you DEPEND on him again, and he fails, shame on us.....
Time to move on from Schwartz......there isn't one linebacker on this team that is not irreplaceable.......unfortunately, you can't cut them all....
As for cutting guys like Casillas, why bother? The cap savings aren't that great and you need depth (Giants fans should know this better than anyone). It's not like the Giants need the money to make moves. Casillas, Herzlich, Jerry, Newhouse, etc. will likely all be coming to camp. If they get beat out there...cut them. Until then, there's little to gain.
-Cruz will not happen until after they re-evaluate him and I have no idea when they can/will do that. He will be asked to take a pay cut regardless but how much will depend on how he's doing. If it's bad they will cut him.
-Beason will be cut or massive pay cut. Guessing late February.
-JPP (although you didn't ask) will be similar to Cruz. See how he's progressing with that hand. The offer will be relative to his use of that hand. Another team could offer more.
I wouldn't be surprised if Beason announces his retirement soon. Who'd pick him up if he's cut? Why would the Giants keep him with his salary & injury history. I don't even think they offer a pay cut, probably not even the vet minimum!
I'm sure they'll balk, but the Giants do have some leverage, at least with Cruz. Beatty can probably get a 3-4 year deal with reasonable money ($6M+ per), but no way Cruz is getting anywhere close to $7.9M in FA this season.
I have a similar view of J.T. Thomas. As a versatile sub who can play all three positions and contribute on specials, he's an asset - maybe even worth low-end starter money, because in this league your primary backups tend to play a lot.
The Giants still need to replace Beason and McClain and find a way to keep Kennard on the field; then I'll worry about replacing the guys who should be backups, even if they are overpaid for their proper roles.
Good for him - his body didn't do him any favors and that hurt us, but I wish him well.
Now if you can get Glenn then maybe that's a different story, and by all means attempt a bit of hard ball with Beatty to see if he bites.
[quote] Casillas?
No doubt Beason is cut......
Beatty, depends on what direction the Giants want to go....If you want one less hole to fill, you keep him......but you still do a restructure......he's not worth a 9M cap hit.....if there is a T out there in free agency, you use that 6.675M towards his replacement, hopefully someone younger, who can grow with this line....Beatty is 30.....how many years does he have left?......think a 30 year old, average LT would get anything near 6.675M on the open market after not one, but two injuries? [/qoute]
Just who are you going to get that's as good as Beatty for less money? Don't forget, Beatty slots right into LT, and he's certainly better than average. Considerably better than average for the relative pittance he's making. And his injuries are hardly the type to be lingering.
Where are you getting $6.675M from? I'm only seeing $4.175M in savings from cutting Beatty. And yes, I think he could get that on the open market for 2-3 years.
If you make Beatty a post June first cut, you split his dead money over two years, so you have 6.675m to use in 2016....
Beatty is average at best....coming back from two upper body injuries? No way he gets that kind of money at 30 years of age....
With the liberalized carry-over rules, that stuff only matters if a team is hard against the cap.
Abrams might get some minor salary concessions from Beatty, but the real question is whether he still figures as the starting left tackle. If he does, you pay the man. If there's a better option - on the roster or in free agency - you move on. The position is too important for a team with ample cap space to quibble over a million or two.
One thing is really clear in the league this year - almost no one has enough good O-linemen.
If they think Flowers will be better served at RT in 2016, then it'll be hard to move on from Beatty since a replacement is likely costing $8-10M per season (at least).
Beason cut,we all agree on that.I would re sign JPP and Prince as long as they don't get carried away with what their looking for.
As for free agents,let's get one more OL and we will be set.One WR,one TE.
Now on D,Safety has to be a priority in FA,a quality LB,and a pass rushing DL.
The draft,looks like there are three CB'S who could be top ten picks,wouldn't mind one of them in the first and then a DL or LB in the second.
One thing is really clear in the league this year - almost no one has enough good O-linemen.
I'd be all for retaining Beatty, if not for the injury concern. He's been hurt a lot. If there was any chance he'd be healthy going forward, paying what he's under contract to have a guy who could play at either tackle position at a decent level would be well worth it.
You sit and wait until all the money dries up and then you cut him the day before camp. Supposedly he opted for surgery instead of gutting it out. Cutting a vet early is a courtesy. We are not required to do that.
$50m is a lot of money. We can afford to sit on Beatty for awhile as we wouldn't need the money until the season starts anyway.
Prince
Schwartz
Herzlich
If we have JPP or Prince over a barrel and can dictate terms I'd consider their return. If not acquire their replacements on the open market. I'd say this scenario is more likely to play out in JPP's situation on a one year deal to prove he can grip and tackle to earn his money.
Schwartz has been a bust he's been hurt most of the time and played like a turd the rest of the time.
Herzlich isn't worth his $1.2M cap cost.
Cruz will be restructured, or cut if he's really unhealthy. He might also be cut at the end of camp if he hasn't regained his explosion.
Beason will be cut.
The concern about bringing back Jerry, Newhouse, and a bunch of other veterans is that they're taking snaps from other players we should be developing.
Cruz will be cut only if he is unwilling to rework his deal. He needs to be a nice find/like he was as an UDFA vs. being paid as a #2 WR which he can't be counted on for.
Beatty is interesting. Hard to say really.
Redo Cruz and Beatty but be realistic. These players have leverage with two years remaining in both cases. You might not care but does ownership want to be paying them a combined $13 million bucks over the next two years to if cut? I seriously doubt it. I'll be satisfied if we can squeeze a combined $5 million from them in cap savings. That should be doable and pay for them signing a MIKE backer that doesn't suck balls.
Are you referring to their dead money cap hit? That's a sunk cost. The owners already paid it.
They don't get paid anything if cut.....Their bonus money has already been paid to them when they initially signed the contract.....
Cut Beason
Hows that?
Beason, ditto. Bad feet and football old.
Beatty is a solid vet who has proven he can play. He'll come back healthy and rested. Flowers needs to go to the right side (where he won't contend with the NFL's best speed rushers). If the Giants are lucky enough to find a dominant right guard, in the next couple of years, I think Flowers can be an ALL PRO.
Cruz - He's spent two years rehabbing, while getting the big paycheck in the mail. The team desperately needs his contribution, but he has to know he will have to restructure, to stay around.
Now Cruz is a much different no one knows if he will play, if he can be the same player or even half that player. Last year we heard I'm ahead of schedule, I'm ready to go but in reality it was in fact not this week which ended up being not this year. The major concern is that we are talking about this players number one asset breaking down on him his legs. He is not looking at a reworked contract he is looking at a massive pay cut which may not be fair to him but is in the best interest of the team. Cruz is going to be a real test for this new management because if he is once again making big money with his injury history then they are not moving forward from these injured players.
As for JPP and Schwartz they are just cut bait and move on or this is our final offer go out see what the league is offering. Now in no way does that mean they are offered contracts in the same area but let's not waste time this is our offer take it or leave it. Give them the chance to remain but if we can find someone to replace them then pull the offer off the table and wish them well. I know it sounds harsh but the days when being the nice organization has to end in some ways eventually.
You sit and wait until all the money dries up and then you cut him the day before camp. Supposedly he opted for surgery instead of gutting it out. Cutting a vet early is a courtesy. We are not required to do that.
$50m is a lot of money. We can afford to sit on Beatty for awhile as we wouldn't need the money until the season starts anyway.
That's a pretty shitty way to deal with Beatty. A veteran deserves a chance to at least get cut in a timely manner so he can find another job. You think other FA's would take kindly to that type of tactic?
If we need money next year to keep Pugh or someone else, move on from Beatty with a minimal cap hit.
Talent, versatility, and depth are sorely needed by this team right now. I'm not the biggest Beatty fan, but it makes sense to keep him and reevaluate next year.
Agreed.