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I have learned Greg Bird is going to miss all of the 2016 season. Going for shoulder surgery tomorrow #Yankees
I always wonder why stuff like this pops up right before the season. Like, did they know and they were thinking rest would help? It's just so frustrating as a fan.
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to add a hitter? Betances finished 15th in the AL Cy Young, and right now, he's a seventh inning pitcher, which to me is nuts, even with the Yankees potentially ragged rotation.
Trade?
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to add a hitter? Betances finished 15th in the AL Cy Young, and right now, he's a seventh inning pitcher, which to me is nuts, even with the Yankees potentially ragged rotation.
Trade?
Why? To replace a guy who would be a backup at best this season?
I was looking at MLB's top 100 prospects list and shaking my head. Â
We are all euphoric over having 3 players listed among the top 60, which is certainly good compared to the recent past. But it's frustraing look at how good the Red Sox, Dodgers, Jays, Astros, and Cubs are at developing young players. The players they signed off the back of a truck are out-hitting our 3M bonus babies, and their low-round HS talent gambles flourish while our college safe-bets can't hit their weight....
I know, I know, I am exaggerating. But it's beyond me why the Yanks can't poach front office talent from these organizations...
sooner if Tex or A-Rod broke down or faltered. We're talking about a six-month, 162 game season. And he's going to miss all of it? His HR/AB is irreplaceable. Teixeira & Rodriguez are 2 antiques. Very slim odds either lasts through all six months. They can move some guys around defensively but nobody will supply the power. The rationale that he was going to be sent out anyway is way too simplistic. He was next guy up.
Hope he recovers quickly and thoroughly. He shouldn't lose power with a torn right labrum. His 3-6 might suffer but the first baseman usually has the worst arm of anyone on the diamond.
Every year the Sawx are supposed to have a fantastic farm system, but what have they actually produced? Betts looks like a good players, Bogaerts can hit but isn't much of a shortstop, JbJ is a joke, Blake Swihart got a lot of press but wasn't any better than John Ryan Murphy. And they haven't developed a good pitcher since Jon Lester a decade ago.
but might net an extra draft pick. Now they can tender Teixeria and not worry as much if he accepts.
Why do people rush to show how little they know about labrum injuries?
The standard recovery period for a FULL recovery is 12 months, though some can come back faster.
Keep in mind that Bird played through this injury since last May- so he will know how to adjust post surgery. There is no reason to even consider Tex for 2017- maybe a Garrett Jones type of vet caddy to play once in a while, but nothing more than that.
it sure didn't look like it affected him later in the year. Or did playing through it cause the complete tear?
I mean, I hate knee-jerk MRI's, but sports teams really need to send players out to one even after a hang nail.
And the Yanks have the worst luck ever, along with the Giants. The select few prospects we have who manage to hit their weights always end up injured.
This could rob Bird of his power long-term, hopefully not.
It could Rob Bird of his ability to consistently swing the bat well, let alone with power.
Look, this is NOT the crisis that the knee-jerk reaction crowd here is making this out to be. Bird is a lefty batter who is having RIGHT shoulder surgery.
Just to give people a point of reference on how this impacts hitters, the Indians' 3rd round pick last year had labrum surgery in January 2015- was back playing with his college team in 2016 and played well enough to be drafted and play as a 3rd round middle INF- a position where you DO need arm strength.
WTF are you talking about? My point is that coming off the injury it would be smart to tender Teix and take the draft pick if he has a good year and hope he leaves. If he accepts it's only one year and insurance since Bird will have missed an entire season. I'm no doctor but here's what i know about Bird's injury. If it's just a repair there should be no long term issues, although Bird seems a little injury prone for someone so young. Back and Shoulder problems at 23. But if it's a partial removal of the labrum instead of a repair that's a big red flag going forward.
WTF are you talking about? My point is that coming off the injury it would be smart to tender Teix and take the draft pick if he has a good year and hope he leaves. If he accepts it's only one year and insurance since Bird will have missed an entire season. I'm no doctor but here's what i know about Bird's injury. If it's just a repair there should be no long term issues, although Bird seems a little injury prone for someone so young. Back and Shoulder problems at 23. But if it's a partial removal of the labrum instead of a repair that's a big red flag going forward.
You don't know when to stop digging when you are in a hole do you. Now you are desperately flinging around increasingly implausible scenarios in a futile attempt to maintain that you somehow right.
First, after watching Tex flail through NUMEROUS seasons marred by injury, he is suddenly healthier than Bird? Right. Strike One.
Second, the Yanks are not going to tender Tex- he WILL accept if offered because he isn't going to get $16M elsewhere with his injury history. If he accepts, he is NOT "insurance"- he will play- which means that Bird is blocked because Tex has 1B and ARod is DH. Strike Two.
Finally, you are now just plain making up "what ifs" to make a case that doesn't exist- now it is "partial removal of the labrum"- come on, you are peddling fantasy now. Strike Three. You're out.
ROSTER MOVES: @Yankees claimed INF Ronald Torreyes off waivers from the @Angels. To make room on the 40-man roster, OF Lane Adams DFAed.
I mean, I hate knee-jerk MRI's, but sports teams really need to send players out to one even after a hang nail.
And the Yanks have the worst luck ever, along with the Giants. The select few prospects we have who manage to hit their weights always end up injured.
This could rob Bird of his power long-term, hopefully not.
I mean, I hate knee-jerk MRI's, but sports teams really need to send players out to one even after a hang nail.
And the Yanks have the worst luck ever, along with the Giants. The select few prospects we have who manage to hit their weights always end up injured.
This could rob Bird of his power long-term, hopefully not.
Trade?
Trade?
Why? To replace a guy who would be a backup at best this season?
I know, I know, I am exaggerating. But it's beyond me why the Yanks can't poach front office talent from these organizations...
Hope he recovers quickly and thoroughly. He shouldn't lose power with a torn right labrum. His 3-6 might suffer but the first baseman usually has the worst arm of anyone on the diamond.
The hype has long exceeded the production.
Why do people rush to show how little they know about labrum injuries?
The standard recovery period for a FULL recovery is 12 months, though some can come back faster.
Keep in mind that Bird played through this injury since last May- so he will know how to adjust post surgery. There is no reason to even consider Tex for 2017- maybe a Garrett Jones type of vet caddy to play once in a while, but nothing more than that.
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it sure didn't look like it affected him later in the year. Or did playing through it cause the complete tear?
I mean, I hate knee-jerk MRI's, but sports teams really need to send players out to one even after a hang nail.
And the Yanks have the worst luck ever, along with the Giants. The select few prospects we have who manage to hit their weights always end up injured.
This could rob Bird of his power long-term, hopefully not.
It could Rob Bird of his ability to consistently swing the bat well, let alone with power.
Look, this is NOT the crisis that the knee-jerk reaction crowd here is making this out to be. Bird is a lefty batter who is having RIGHT shoulder surgery.
Just to give people a point of reference on how this impacts hitters, the Indians' 3rd round pick last year had labrum surgery in January 2015- was back playing with his college team in 2016 and played well enough to be drafted and play as a 3rd round middle INF- a position where you DO need arm strength.
So, let's stop with the hyperbole.
You don't know when to stop digging when you are in a hole do you. Now you are desperately flinging around increasingly implausible scenarios in a futile attempt to maintain that you somehow right.
First, after watching Tex flail through NUMEROUS seasons marred by injury, he is suddenly healthier than Bird? Right. Strike One.
Second, the Yanks are not going to tender Tex- he WILL accept if offered because he isn't going to get $16M elsewhere with his injury history. If he accepts, he is NOT "insurance"- he will play- which means that Bird is blocked because Tex has 1B and ARod is DH. Strike Two.
Finally, you are now just plain making up "what ifs" to make a case that doesn't exist- now it is "partial removal of the labrum"- come on, you are peddling fantasy now. Strike Three. You're out.
Now go back to the bench and let the adults talk.