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Cowher: Giants never contacted me about replacing Coughlin

FranknWeezer : 2/1/2016 4:20 pm
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Ralph Vacchiano & #8207;@RVacchianoNYDN 28m28 minutes ago
For the record, CBS' Bill Cowher says no one from the Giants even reached out to him to gauge his interest n replacing Tom Coughlin.


Obviously, that ship has sailed, but if what Cowher is saying is true, it's amazing how worked up we get on BBI about stuff that we just conjure up on our own. I'm as guilty as anybody.
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If Cowher's heart was into coaching again, he would have been doing it  
GloryDayz : 2/1/2016 5:37 pm : link
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"I've never said, I'll never go back," Cowher says. "Why shut a door you don't have to? I just don't want to be the person that says, 'No, I'm never going to coach again.' And then five years from now I come back and people say, 'But you said you weren't!' I feel sometimes when I answer the question, people go, 'Oh there he is! He's waiting for the perfect job!"


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"Right now, I love what I'm doing. More importantly, I love the lifestyle. Having the flexibility it's given me to do things I couldn't do for the first 49 years of my life."


From a Rolling Stone article not too long ago... He's happy doing what he's going.
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Everything that has happened makes me think  
illmatic : 2/1/2016 5:43 pm : link
Tom agreed to step down rather than being fired because the Giants told him that they're likely going to with one of his guys as the next HC.
RE: Glory  
GloryDayz : 2/1/2016 5:48 pm : link
In comment 12796936 robbieballs2003 said:
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I am not saying I didn't want them to interview others. Due diligence to me means keeping an open mind and really analyzing all possibilities. Just interviewing when you have your mind made up is worrisome.


But we don't know that they had their minds set on him.

From what I've read, they interviewed McAdoo just once at first. They liked the interview but still interviewed others. When Jackson pulled out, and reports came out Eagles were interested in McAdoo, they met again with him, and finalized the deal. The process took what, 2 weeks maybe?

That, to me at least, indicates they dud keep an open mind, but eventually hired they guy they liked best from all they interviewed, before it got too late.
Not really news  
hitdog42 : 2/1/2016 5:53 pm : link
Was never mentioned
He is lying  
ThatLimerickGuy : 2/1/2016 5:57 pm : link
I know it to be true. And for the record there was a strong contingent in the front office who wanted him badly.

Think about it logically for a second. Cowher is doing the Giants a solid.

If Cowher says "oh yeah we talked but it didn't work out" it both makes the giants look like they settled for mcadoo and also tries to make a scenario where mcadoo impressed more than cowher.

My source was clear. Cowher was a lot closer than many people think but he wanted a lot more personnel control and the Giants love their organizational structure.
RE: He is lying  
GloryDayz : 2/1/2016 6:06 pm : link
In comment 12796984 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I know it to be true. And for the record there was a strong contingent in the front office who wanted him badly.

Think about it logically for a second. Cowher is doing the Giants a solid.

If Cowher says "oh yeah we talked but it didn't work out" it both makes the giants look like they settled for mcadoo and also tries to make a scenario where mcadoo impressed more than cowher.

My source was clear. Cowher was a lot closer than many people think but he wanted a lot more personnel control and the Giants love their organizational structure.


If that's the case, he's doing himself a favor, not the Giants.

From Giants' perspective, they picked the better fit for them, whatever reasons there may be, personnel control, coaching philosophy, vision... Etc. At this point there's nothing for them to worry about, they didn't "settle" for anything.

If what you're saying is true, Giants picking McAdoo over him, hurts him more than it hurts them. That's how I would see it anyways.
I said it when we hired BM and I'm happy with his hire  
RDJR : 2/1/2016 6:15 pm : link
but Eli had as much influence on him being hired as anybody associated with the franchise.
reality  
mdc1 : 2/1/2016 6:37 pm : link
McAdoo has not proven shit yet. Let's see if the org got it right. Based on some of the stuff happening over the last 4 years its hard to be positive.
The whole Cowher thing was stupid  
Bockman : 2/1/2016 6:41 pm : link
and BBIers were stupid for even wanting him.

Thank god it's over with.
If McAdoo  
GruningsOnTheHill : 2/1/2016 7:53 pm : link
had been their target from the get-go, why wasn't it an instant hire and why was he allowed to interview with other teams?
RE: He is lying  
DonQuixote : 2/1/2016 8:00 pm : link
In comment 12796984 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I know it to be true. And for the record there was a strong contingent in the front office who wanted him badly.

Think about it logically for a second. Cowher is doing the Giants a solid.

If Cowher says "oh yeah we talked but it didn't work out" it both makes the giants look like they settled for mcadoo and also tries to make a scenario where mcadoo impressed more than cowher.

My source was clear. Cowher was a lot closer than many people think but he wanted a lot more personnel control and the Giants love their organizational structure.


Cowher should have just declined to comment. Neither a false denial, nor a complete lack of interest by the Giants, reflects well on him.
RE: Leaving things as they were  
TyFromQueens : 2/1/2016 8:02 pm : link
In comment 12796884 TMS said:
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seemed to make the most sense it me. Unless TC had decided to leave anyway after last year. He was not the problem, We will find out down the line.


Maybe he want the problem..but how soon everyone forgets. Coach Coughlin is directly responsible for atleast 3 loses. 1st game against Dallas, That next week against The Falcons and The Game against The Jets.

Poor clock management in those 3 games caused us a w each time.

Can't blame that on the front office.
He's not lying  
shyster : 2/1/2016 8:04 pm : link
he's being both polite and strategic. He says that no one reached out to him, emphasis on him, personally. That is no doubt true. And, by saying that, he (politely) denies that he turned down the Giants and (strategically) leaves the door open for the future.

Why would he possibly be interested in the future, if he wasn't interested in the current situation? Maybe he didn't want to work with Reese, to whom Mara was publicly committed. Maybe he didn't want to hitch himself to 35 year old Eli. (He's been very complimentary of Eli in the past, yes, but who knows what he really thinks now.)

The world can still turn.
RE: He is lying  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/1/2016 8:13 pm : link
In comment 12796984 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I know it to be true. And for the record there was a strong contingent in the front office who wanted him badly.

Think about it logically for a second. Cowher is doing the Giants a solid.

If Cowher says "oh yeah we talked but it didn't work out" it both makes the giants look like they settled for mcadoo and also tries to make a scenario where mcadoo impressed more than cowher.

My source was clear. Cowher was a lot closer than many people think but he wanted a lot more personnel control and the Giants love their organizational structure.


I don't see why he would feel the need to "do the Giants a solid". Dragging this story up from the dead doesn't do the team any favors. In fact, what it does it get beat writers to ask more questions. I don't see how this benefits the team whatsoever. Now Mara has to answer this question next time he speaks.
So wait  
BigBlueShock : 2/1/2016 8:15 pm : link
Why exactly should we believe "ThatLimmerickGuy"? Maybe I've missed something, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, but most of what I've seen this guy post is absolute garbage. Is he actually claiming to have some kind of inside sources?

Bwahaaaaaaaaaa! Well, alrighty then! There you have it folks! Cowher is a liar! ThatLimmerickGuy says so!
Cowher absolutely could be lying. Saying the Giants really wanted him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/1/2016 8:23 pm : link
Would be indirectly undercuttinga fellow coach in McAdoo.

The only choice he has is to deny it. It's bad form to say anything else. Frankly he shouldn't even have addressed it. The team is trying to move forward.
Now, that's harsh, Bockman ....  
Manny in CA : 2/1/2016 8:24 pm : link
But I'm glad he's not getting the job. I think this is not the right chemistry for him.

He's kind of an enigma - Some say he's tough, but I see him fraternizing with the players way too much.

He does seem to be a hard worker (lunch-pail kind of guy), but in some ways it just seems that he's already peaked.
Cowher  
Samiam : 2/1/2016 8:24 pm : link
The guy hasn't coached in 10 years. How does anybody know if he can relate to today's young players. How does anybody know he can put the hours and effort in anymore?

I would like to have a little information on the source discussed here. It's hard for me to believe that those in the know in the front office do not talk. If the source came through Cowher or the agent, they says something else
Ten Ton Hammer  
BigBlueShock : 2/1/2016 8:34 pm : link
Sure, Cowher could be lying. Though I kind of like to give people the benefit of doubt and not just call them a liar without having any facts. This poster above doesn't have any more a clue than you or I do. He's guessing and pretending he has sources. Now, don't get me wrong, there are posters on BBI that absolutely have sources, I really, really doubt this guy is one of them.
It usually happens more indirectly  
RetroJint : 2/1/2016 8:36 pm : link
Somebody close to the Giants asks the people representing Cowher if he would have an interest. The word comes back "No" and everybody moves on. Nobody contacted Cowher-directly.

George Young got caught playing that game during the 83 season when he had feelers put out to Howard Schellenberger about replacing Parcells. Problem was the conduit was in Parcells' camp. GY denied it. But he was exposed as a liar. Parcells never forgave Young. Nor did Young forgive Parcells for going public with the information.

Young gained his revenge when Bill made entreaties to return to the team after Reeves was fired. Mara wanted Bill . So did his son. But GY invoked the no-interference clause in his contract.
This is a nut-slicing, dick- smoking business. It's not very honorable, at least what goes on behind the scenes.
Even if true,  
Big Blue '56 : 2/1/2016 8:37 pm : link
if he wanted to coach again he could have easily put out feelers through his Agent..
RE: So wait  
DonQuixote : 2/1/2016 8:38 pm : link
In comment 12797109 BigBlueShock said:
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Why exactly should we believe "ThatLimmerickGuy"? Maybe I've missed something, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, but most of what I've seen this guy post is absolute garbage. Is he actually claiming to have some kind of inside sources?

Bwahaaaaaaaaaa! Well, alrighty then! There you have it folks! Cowher is a liar! ThatLimmerickGuy says so!


It actually doesn't matter. For Cowher to comment, either way, is dumb on his part.
RE: Cowher absolutely could be lying. Saying the Giants really wanted him  
shabu : 2/1/2016 9:18 pm : link
In comment 12797110 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Would be indirectly undercuttinga fellow coach in McAdoo.

The only choice he has is to deny it. It's bad form to say anything else. Frankly he shouldn't even have addressed it. The team is trying to move forward.


yep
RE: Cowher  
blueblood : 2/1/2016 9:22 pm : link
In comment 12797112 Samiam said:
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The guy hasn't coached in 10 years. How does anybody know if he can relate to today's young players. How does anybody know he can put the hours and effort in anymore?


yeah cause Bruce Arians and Pete Carroll are having a rough time relating to todays younger players..

And Cowher is younger than both of them..

Coaching is coaching.. if he wanted to.. He could do it.. I dont believe he wants to if it is not totally on his terms
bigblueshock  
ThatLimerickGuy : 2/1/2016 9:50 pm : link
No need for a personal attack man. No need to call another person on the Internet garbage. Just low class.

I happened to be in a situation where I was able to get some good info last month and tried to share as much as I could.

Nevermind. I won't even bother if I hear anything its really not worth it.
The big question is,  
Doomster : 2/1/2016 10:42 pm : link
has there really been any change, or has the status quo been maintained?
If McAdoo was their guy all along  
Vanzetti : 2/1/2016 11:52 pm : link
You don't think Coughlin might have had a least an inkling of this? He is not a stupid man.

It's like when they brought in Jan Michael Vincent to be Charles Bronson's assistant in The Mechanic.
RE: He is lying  
Kulish29 : 2/2/2016 2:26 am : link
In comment 12796984 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I know it to be true. And for the record there was a strong contingent in the front office who wanted him badly.

Think about it logically for a second. Cowher is doing the Giants a solid.

If Cowher says "oh yeah we talked but it didn't work out" it both makes the giants look like they settled for mcadoo and also tries to make a scenario where mcadoo impressed more than cowher.

My source was clear. Cowher was a lot closer than many people think but he wanted a lot more personnel control and the Giants love their organizational structure.


Either he's lying or, you're just full of shit.

Based upon what we know, I'm leaning towards you being full of shit.
Matt, I'm sure you're a nice guy but.....  
grizz299 : 2/2/2016 2:42 am : link
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I think not even calling him is egregious on the Giants part. How are you not interested in a coach of his caliber where there is at least a hint of interest? ..... You have to explore options like this. Let him say no.This statement is so full of buloney and hubris....


there is so much wrong with that statement....it is NOT egregious on the Giants part.... And they do NOT have to explore options like that. Except in your mind...In case you haven't noticed this was their decision to make in any reasonable manner that THEY wanted to. It is not "egregious" if they decided they didn't want a man who had been out of football forever. And they most certainly do not have to explore "options" like this.
You sound like a fool and I'm sure you're not..Just settle down.

How many of the other teams  
Gman11 : 2/2/2016 7:39 am : link
looking for coaches that didn't "reach out to him?"

Just because the Giants didn't it's something horrible?
RE: jcn  
jcn56 : 2/2/2016 8:19 am : link
In comment 12796921 Matt M. said:
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Given the way this process seemed to play out, I am concerned they didn't call either. Had they really been interested in the possibility of hiring someone other than McAdoo, then at least one of Gruden or Cowher should have been called. To me, the problem is really that they only seemed to have their eyes on McAdoo; it was his job to lose by a wide margin, apparently.


Matt - those are two separate issues, though.

Gruden and Cowher have been out of coaching for some time. I wouldn't blame *any* team for not calling them. It's entirely likely that neither one has any designs on returning to the sideline, and there's nothing to say that the long layoff hasn't rendered them completely useless as coaches.

Being concerned that the Giants were fixated on McAdoo is another matter, though - one that can only be dismissed if they legitimately considered other coaching options. They did interview outside candidates, and presumably ones that were leading candidates for jobs elsewhere (and two of them were hired elsewhere). We don't know how seriously they pursued them, though. That's where I'd get upset, if it was revealed that there was never any serious consideration given to anyone else, and the hiring process was more of a dog and pony show.
I really hope....  
John3977 : 2/2/2016 8:25 am : link
that this love affair with Macadoo doesn't lead to Ray Handley 2.0. It's hard to believe that the Giants are so in love with potential that they wouldn't reach out to a guy with a proven track record to lead this team. I've really been wondering what Mara was thinking this offseason. You keep a GM who hasn't really added a wealth of talent in the draft through the years, he scapegoats Coughlin, and then hires a guy based on hope. I may eat my words but this offseason is a total head scratcher.
RE: I really hope....  
jcn56 : 2/2/2016 8:32 am : link
In comment 12797326 John3977 said:
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that this love affair with Macadoo doesn't lead to Ray Handley 2.0. It's hard to believe that the Giants are so in love with potential that they wouldn't reach out to a guy with a proven track record to lead this team. I've really been wondering what Mara was thinking this offseason. You keep a GM who hasn't really added a wealth of talent in the draft through the years, he scapegoats Coughlin, and then hires a guy based on hope. I may eat my words but this offseason is a total head scratcher.


Actually, the offseason made perfect sense if you look at it from the angle that McAdoo was the preordained winner.

In that scenario - the Giants had plans to transition from Coughlin to McAdoo as the coach of the future, but had to accelerate it because of results. Reese and Coughlin were both on the hot seat, the change at the top usually works with the coach getting the ax first and then the GM, so Coughlin's out, the transition to McAdoo happens sooner, and Reese is on the hot seat.

Cowher was never a serious consideration for two likely reason. One, who the hell knows if the guy can even coach anymore (it's been 10 years, not a lot of examples of guys who disappear for 10 years and come back successful). Two, rumors that he wanted total control of personnel. That's not the Giants way, nor is it the way most organizations operate. Just look at what happened in Philly to see why they might not want to go that route.

Forget Cowher and Gruden - if you're upset at them not looking at other coaches, it's time to look at how seriously guys like Gase, Jackson, Marrone, etc. were considered.
Macadoo hasn't done shit yet?  
Houston : 2/2/2016 9:35 am : link
Looks like the offense improved year over year and we lost Cruz... and didn't find a TE until season end and our OL was challenged. I am happy with the progress of the Offense and disagree that Macadoo hasn't done shit. What concerns me is how bad our defense looked -- which I thought was going to be the strength of the team last year. We need some playmakers on defense, a friggin pass rush would help!
RE: RE: Leaving things as they were  
Jersey55 : 2/2/2016 10:45 am : link
In comment 12796892 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 12796884 TMS said:


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seemed to make the most sense it me. Unless TC had decided to leave anyway after last year. He was not the problem, We will find out down the line.



I don't disagree with this. However, the way they interviewed people and the whole process just didn't seem right. Hue Jackson was contacted late hence why there was no interview. Mike Smith came out of nowhere. After the whole process was complete it seems more and more like their mind was made up prior to the interview process and that bothers me. It doesn't bother me if McAdoo was really the best candidate and best situation for us to succeed but having that predetermined is not the right way to approach this. I have no idea if this was the case. They very well could have kept an open mind. I hope they did.


I think the owners decided on McAdoo right from the start simply because it was a safer move as far as Eli was concerned. McAdoo fit right into Eli's comfort zone and at this point in time Eli is the catalyst for this team....
if the Giants love McAdoo above all else  
djm : 2/2/2016 10:52 am : link
it's their right to promote the guy. WHo cares how this all went down. If McAdoo is the goods, it's fine. If he's not, then we are fuct.

It's all a crapshoot anyway. I would have preferred a big name hire but even that wouldn't guarantee anything. I can't blame the Giants for how they handled this entire affair. Time will tell whether they made the right call but there's nothing wrong with how they handled this. They obviously had a short list that started and ended with McAdoo.
the thing with some of these asshats  
djm : 2/2/2016 11:00 am : link
that I have a hard time with is how can ONE dude on the internet have inside info on this yet no one else echos this story.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. One dude on BBI knows all this inside info but not one source in the real world has come out and stated anything other than the Giants never contacted Bill Cowher. Not one.

I don't doubt that asshats are hearing things from people they probably trust but the info is usually not legit.

Occam's razor and all that...more than likely the Giants may have sent a feeler out to Cowher but the talks probably went nowhere because Cowher wanted more power. IF that's the case, how the hell did the talks ever get serious. The biggest road block of all was Cowher's needs vs the Giants way of doing things. The convo probably lasted all of 10 seconds. That's not serious.

Not knocking the asshats here. I just think the info being leaked is iffy at best. If you the asshat know all of this juicy stuff, someone else does. I promise you that.
I see no need to knock the asshats either  
jcn56 : 2/2/2016 11:04 am : link
It could be they have a reliable source that was either spreading misinformation or received wrong information. It happens.

I don't think the Giants reached out to Cowher, though. There's no benefit to the team in BC making this statement if it's not true. If they had reached out but he wasn't interested, or couldn't agree, it would have been much easier to make a 'no comment' type statement and just let people speculate.
Ok...look....  
ThatLimerickGuy : 2/2/2016 11:19 am : link
I've made the decision to not repeat anything else that I hear in the future but let me just explain something.

The NFL doesn't work like many of you think that it does. It's not a locked vault where information is discussed. There are human beings involved who talk with their family, talk with friends, talk with players, accountants, lawyers, etc.

I was very honest from the getgo about what my connection was in this. I happen to have a good friend who is very close to Mike Smith's family. I accurately reported how his interview went and how he was willing to keep McAdoo on as OC but didn't want to be a DC. These things were confirmed by the beat reporters a few days after I posted it. Maybe they are lying too?

As far as Cowher, as you can imagine the NFL coaching circle is a pretty tight knit group, and the same source told me that while Cowher never showed up at MetLife for an interview there was absolutely a lot of discussion about his interest in the position, with it being described to me as "his to have" if he would just coach and take only a coughlin-esque side role in personnel and defer to Reese. This was a dealbreaker for him (I don't blame him) and that was it.

Rest assured though that it was pretty much a 2 man race the whole entire time, and once the preferred guy decided against it the choice was clear.

Many of you don't realize that since the NFL is a billion dollar business, it is run the same way as any other corporation. With the bottom line, public perception and best interests of the business owner in mind.

The bigger issue is that I see why people who get legitimate information stop sharing it here. Like I really need to be called a piece of garbage on the internet because I decided to pass along something I heard from a reliable source?

F that.



It's more than likely many possible candidates were discussed  
Watson : 2/2/2016 11:42 am : link
internally but NYG desired not to pursue for various reasons. In case of Cowher, probably no big secret as to what it would take. As many have already stated control would be a non-starter.

Seems based on news stories, NYG wanted at the very least to retain McAdoo as OC for obvious reasons. Process may have continued longer if not for Philly interest.

Imo taking a chance on a young coach is a bolder move than hiring a past HC. If Cowher had been hired and it didn't work out, how could anyone fault the decision. It was Cowher who would have thought!

HC out of football for 10 years vs. Potentially a young up & comer that has already in place a good offensive scheme and relationship with QB. McAdoo will probably stub his toes a few times, but think the right decision was made.

End of the day, decision has been made. So does it really matter whether Cowher is being frank or not?
LimerickGuy thanks for sharing info you thought was solid.  
Watson : 2/2/2016 12:04 pm : link
Disagreeing is one thing but don't understand the need to bash.
RE: Ok...look....  
kinard : 2/2/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 12797564 ThatLimerickGuy said:
[quote] I happen to have a good friend who is very close to Mike Smith's family. I accurately reported how his interview went and how he was willing to keep McAdoo on as OC but didn't want to be a DC.

But if Mike Smith didn't want to be a DC, why did he accept that same position with Tampa Bay for another rookie coach a week later?

Not questioning the veracity of your sources, but it appears that Smith essentially contradicted himself, right?
I may not agree across the board with Limerick Guy  
David in LA : 2/2/2016 2:50 pm : link
but I do appreciate whatever info that posters decide to share. What I do not appreciate is assholes like Kulish and BBS acting like fucking dickfaces to posters that are offering up information they don't have to. If you don't think it's true, you can just dismiss it and move the fuck along.
BBI  
RinR : 2/2/2016 2:51 pm : link
wanted the sexy, big name hire (well some did). I have no problem with them having no interest in Cowher or Gruden.

I'm trusting ownership on this one. Their last hire was a pretty good one.
Retro is most likely on target here  
JonC : 2/2/2016 2:53 pm : link
I didn't hear Cowher's name this time around, and I know for a fact NYG was annoyed with Cowher's interest going public the last time TC was on the white hot seat (2010?). But, I tend to think someone from the NYG camp checked with Cowher's rep and it quite possibly progressed in a manner Limerick suggested.
RE: RE: Ok...look....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/2/2016 3:21 pm : link
In comment 12797854 kinard said:
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In comment 12797564 ThatLimerickGuy said:
[quote] I happen to have a good friend who is very close to Mike Smith's family. I accurately reported how his interview went and how he was willing to keep McAdoo on as OC but didn't want to be a DC.

But if Mike Smith didn't want to be a DC, why did he accept that same position with Tampa Bay for another rookie coach a week later?

Not questioning the veracity of your sources, but it appears that Smith essentially contradicted himself, right?


That's an easy one. Having a job in the league is better than no job at all. The fact that he didn't get many or any head coaching looks is a statement of his current value around the league. He might have decided that the best thing to do is keep working, and if he turns around a terrible Tampa D, he can springboard into consideration.

He didn't contradict himself. He reacted to new information: namely that he isn't a desirable HC candidate right now.
Kinard...  
ThatLimerickGuy : 2/2/2016 3:22 pm : link
Smith was never offered the DC position with the Giants. His interview was more of a feeling out and due diligence by both parties. At the end though he was faced with 2 options.

Option 1) Sit out for another year and then be 2 years removed from a bad ending in Atlanta

Option 2) Take a DC position on a team with some decent talent and try to rebuild his stock. If he does a good job this year in TB teams will come calling based on his previous success as a head coach.

Also, I'd always defer to JonC on inside information matters so as much as I can only report what I hear, Jon knows his stuff.
RE: RE: Ok...look....  
andrew_nyg : 2/2/2016 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12797854 kinard said:
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In comment 12797564 ThatLimerickGuy said:
[quote] I happen to have a good friend who is very close to Mike Smith's family. I accurately reported how his interview went and how he was willing to keep McAdoo on as OC but didn't want to be a DC.

But if Mike Smith didn't want to be a DC, why did he accept that same position with Tampa Bay for another rookie coach a week later?

Not questioning the veracity of your sources, but it appears that Smith essentially contradicted himself, right?


Because Smith has a relationship with the rookie coach in Tampa. Dirk Koetter served as Offensive Coordinator under Smith in Atlanta between 2012-14.
TLG  
JonC : 2/2/2016 3:31 pm : link
It wouldn't surprise me if things went down as your source suggested (I didn't hear much during the search), but suspect it was handled by Cowher's rep on the surface issues that ultimately were an impasse.
Limerick: Thanks for the solid posts and info.  
drkenneth : 2/2/2016 8:37 pm : link
Lot of nut bags around here these days. Everyone out for blood, not interested in genuine discussion about this team's future, which I'm excited about. I think this team was a nut-hair away from 8 wins this year, and with a top 10 pick, lots of cap room, they could win 10+ next year.

The division sucks, and I think they will be better coached. People are more interested in telling everyone how Reese sucks.
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