Is enjoying? After his 2002 season, I thought the sky was the limit for Shockey. Unfortunately, he did not live up to the hype the NY media placed on him. He still was an excellent player for a few seasons, but he was placed on a pedestal of being a HOF lock after that rookie season. So who is to blame for Shockey not becoming what Gronkowski is? No as talented? Scheme? Injuries? Shockey's attitude? I just hope BeckhamThey are holding us here for an indefinite time lives up to the hype. He has been placed on the same pedestal that Shockey was placed on. A lot depends on him staying healthy, of course. Also intersting that th Giants have nit had a TE of Shockey's caliber since he was jettisoned to NO. This dispite the fact that h didn't live up to the hype. The Giants need an excellent TE again. I don't think that player is on the roster at the moment.
SHockey was a great talent and a moron. He also broke down which probably was at least partially caused with him being a moron.
On the flipside Beckham might be the best I've ever seen at having his feet set on downfield throws and exploding after those catches.
Jeremy Shockey would've fell down on the Boss/Harrison long catch at the Super Bowl.
Agree 100%.
I really liked that offense in 2005 when it was Plaxico, Shockey, Toomer and Tiki, so many different weapons. Maybe that’s the reason he wasn’t putting up out of control numbers. I agree with the others saying he wasn’t really used the right way. The guy didn’t go to Miami to learn how to become a blocker. I think his biggest issue was he never played a full 16 game season and was hurt a bunch of times and his “attitude” wasn’t the best. OK, sure he wasn’t Gronk but to say his best moment was when he got traded to the Saints was absolute crap. You don’t think he wanted to win? He wasn’t the most conforming guy/player in the world but he won two Super Bowls and had a “good enough” career.
otherwise we was a talented, selfish, immature player
Wasn't it a 2nd rd pick?
funny because on his second play from scrimmmage I was comparing Beckham to Shockey.
The impact he had in those first years was dominating and I thought I was watching greatness. To me, the whole game seemed to revolve around him. I agree with all the praise for Witten and that he had a better career, but in one sense he never did what Shockey did.
On the flipside Beckham might be the best I've ever seen at having his feet set on downfield throws and exploding after those catches.
Jeremy Shockey would've fell down on the Boss/Harrison long catch at the Super Bowl.
It's like chewing gum and walking. His brain was only able to focus on one act at at time. Catching or continued placement of his feet.
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It wasn't a matter of targets, it was a matter of use - Shockey was used to being split wide more often, and blocking less. Coughlin's scheme used the TE differently than the way Fassel's had, and what Shockey had become accustomed to.
I don't think anyone can contend that the Saints didn't use Shockey differently, and even though it was the tail end of his career where he was physically a different player, he was still productive.
That doesn't write Shockey some sort of pass - he was still all the things mentioned in this thread, undisciplined, out of shape, a jackass towards Eli. His work ethic and his behavior towards his QB were the main differences between him and Gronk (who is also physically more talented).
Mike Strahan on line 1 for you.
Statistically, Shockey's best year wasn't his rookie season, it was 2005. He had only 9 fewer receptions and 3 fewer yards, had 7 touchdowns compared to 2, and had the highest yards per catch of his season at 13.7. That's despite working with a quarterback who was only in his first full year as a starter.
I think people arguing that Fassel used Shockey better than Coughlin are remembering incorrectly and ignoring how quickly Shockey's body broke down.
Meanwhile, he also was a destructive force within our offense. There was a card game a few years ago with one of the O-lineman at that time. This was after Shockey left and then Eli had a nice season. This player was asked (he was drunk) why Eli was doing so well and this player said..."Jeremy Shockey". Meaning, he was gone and that helped Eli. Said Shockey (after Eli may have missed a throw to him) would come back to the huddle and just rip into Eli. He said the best thing for the offense was getting rid of Shockey.
Shockey was good for a few brief years, but injuries/attitude really destroyed his career.
Meanwhile, he also was a destructive force within our offense. There was a card game a few years ago with one of the O-lineman at that time. This was after Shockey left and then Eli had a nice season. This player was asked (he was drunk) why Eli was doing so well and this player said..."Jeremy Shockey". Meaning, he was gone and that helped Eli. Said Shockey (after Eli may have missed a throw to him) would come back to the huddle and just rip into Eli. He said the best thing for the offense was getting rid of Shockey.
You'd think o-lineman would say something to shockey.