Woj claims they're actually the "front-runners" to sign him if he leaves as a free agent this summer. I know the Warriors have been talking about doing this for some time now, going back to before their championship last year.
It's far from clear that Durant will leave the Thunder at all, as Woj states. My guess is he most likely signs a new two-year deal with them, with an option to leave after one year.
I actually don't think he'd be a great fit with the Warriors (of course he'd be a valuable contributor to any team), especially if they have to give up strong defenders like Iguodala and promising ones like Barnes. A trade to the Clippers for Blake Griffin, who's from Oklahoma, sounds pretty intriguing, but at this point Durant is worth more than Griffin.
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Will never happen unless Durant is signing for the mini mid level
They would need to get rid of everyone they have except for curry Thompson green, that's all you need to know how likely it is
As far as the Clippers, that rumor makes no sense since you take Blake off that team and they are far worse then the Thunder. Why would he leave OKC and Westbrook and Ibaka and a much deeper roster to play with an older CP3 and Jordan?
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And I don't care enough to figure out the spider web of NBA salary cab BS to determine how likely it is.
They would need to get rid of everyone they have except for curry Thompson green, that's all you need to know how likely it is
This isn't true even if you say it twice. The 3 of them are only making 43 combined, and if the cap is 87 next year, they still have plenty of space to offer KD a healthy contract with a move or two. I'm not saying it's likely but there is plenty of precedence in the NBA of guys who want to win taking less money to make it work.
Don't change whats working.
Don't change whats working.
Yeah there's definitely some risk involved, as crazy as it sounds. As the great Charles Oakley once said: "If it ain't broke, don't break it." Quality players will flock there to play supporting roles.
But boy, would that be terrible for the NBA or what? Also might be the death of the 25-30-35% max contract in the next CBA (especially as a 1-2 punch with a crazy offseasons of non-stars getting 15-25 million/per).
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And I don't care enough to figure out the spider web of NBA salary cab BS to determine how likely it is.
They would need to get rid of everyone they have except for curry Thompson green, that's all you need to know how likely it is
This isn't true even if you say it twice. The 3 of them are only making 43 combined, and if the cap is 87 next year, they still have plenty of space to offer KD a healthy contract with a move or two. I'm not saying it's likely but there is plenty of precedence in the NBA of guys who want to win taking less money to make it work.
Oh great so they can keep Jason Thompson...
You are getting rid of bogut, iguodola, Harrison Barnes and ezeli...
They are gutting their team for Durant...
43 million plus 5 for cap holds plus the 27 million for Durant is 75 million, so they then have 12 million to fill 10 slots..
Don't change whats working.
That's how I feel. The team clearly knows how to work well together, and some of the pieces they'd apparently need to release to accommodate Durant contribute to that chemistry(especially Iguodala and Bogut).
If they don't win a Championship I can see it. But if they do? I'd guess they'd only strongly pursue Durant if Barnes doesn't re-sign.
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And I don't care enough to figure out the spider web of NBA salary cab BS to determine how likely it is.
They would need to get rid of everyone they have except for curry Thompson green, that's all you need to know how likely it is
This isn't true even if you say it twice. The 3 of them are only making 43 combined, and if the cap is 87 next year, they still have plenty of space to offer KD a healthy contract with a move or two. I'm not saying it's likely but there is plenty of precedence in the NBA of guys who want to win taking less money to make it work.
Oh great so they can keep Jason Thompson...
You are getting rid of bogut, iguodola, Harrison Barnes and ezeli...
They are gutting their team for Durant...
43 million plus 5 for cap holds plus the 27 million for Durant is 75 million, so they then have 12 million to fill 10 slots..
From what I've read you're getting rid of Barnes (thus far: meh, and he very would could leave anyway), Iggy, and one of Bogut or Ezeli but not both. For Durant? Yeah, I'd say that's not exactly gutting your team for him.
But it's KD, so everyone will just be okay with it.
Because of a rumor?
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Because of a rumor?
Because players just jump ship to go to contenders or to fit in with what's working. It is a problem with the game because small markets suffer. The whole notion that with media today you don't need to be in a major market is wrong. Players still want to be in major cities and on good teams. in a sport where 2-3 guys make you a championship team it's a problem. You no longer need to draft well. You get one good player and people will follow.
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And I don't care enough to figure out the spider web of NBA salary cab BS to determine how likely it is.
They would need to get rid of everyone they have except for curry Thompson green, that's all you need to know how likely it is
This isn't true even if you say it twice. The 3 of them are only making 43 combined, and if the cap is 87 next year, they still have plenty of space to offer KD a healthy contract with a move or two. I'm not saying it's likely but there is plenty of precedence in the NBA of guys who want to win taking less money to make it work.
Oh great so they can keep Jason Thompson...
You are getting rid of bogut, iguodola, Harrison Barnes and ezeli...
They are gutting their team for Durant...
43 million plus 5 for cap holds plus the 27 million for Durant is 75 million, so they then have 12 million to fill 10 slots..
From what I've read you're getting rid of Barnes (thus far: meh, and he very would could leave anyway), Iggy, and one of Bogut or Ezeli but not both. For Durant? Yeah, I'd say that's not exactly gutting your team for him.
Your going to have to give him a qualifying offer which is going to be another hold, what stops a team in desperate need of size offferjng him a big contract?
Bogut and Iggy are gone you need to clear out that 23 million
Because players just jump ship to go to contenders or to fit in with what's working. It is a problem with the game because small markets suffer. The whole notion that with media today you don't need to be in a major market is wrong. Players still want to be in major cities and on good teams. in a sport where 2-3 guys make you a championship team it's a problem. You no longer need to draft well. You get one good player and people will follow.
How often do players "jump ship" to go to contenders? Sure, LeBron and Bosh joined Wade in Miami, but what other recent examples are there? And as far as "small markets" are concerned, after the way the NBA treated Seattle, I have no sympathy for OKC.
I can't see him going there.
+1. Add in the failure to smooth cap increases, which gives even the Haves cap room in the next few seasons.
They absolutely need tiered contracts of some sort. Whether its raising the max in proportion to the total cap, capping how many max contracts you can have on the team (or contracts within X percentage of the max), really anything to prevent a situation like this from being possible.
They absolutely need tiered contracts of some sort. Whether its raising the max in proportion to the total cap, capping how many max contracts you can have on the team (or contracts within X percentage of the max), really anything to prevent a situation like this from being possible.
after the ridiculous Harden trade, why should Durant show any loyalty to OKC? LeBron's front office the first time around in Cleveland botched a ton of moves as well. Nothing wrong with seeking out a better situation.
And max contracts already are tied to the overall cap number.
OTOH, the prime Durant era Western Conference has been a murderers row of talent.
I think it would be awesome to see how they would play together with all that ball movement and incredible shooting. Curry/Durant/Thompson with jack-of-all-trades Draymond? That would be fun to watch.
Whether he gets grief for it is a separate matter, but I understand why he would do it. He's financially set for generations to come... why not play where he would most enjoy himself? If that's the Warriors, then go for it.
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obviously just my opinion but if Durant did this it would be awful and I'd attack him like I attacked LeBron for the same thing. Durant is a hell of a lot more likable, but it would be a lame move just the same.
They absolutely need tiered contracts of some sort. Whether its raising the max in proportion to the total cap, capping how many max contracts you can have on the team (or contracts within X percentage of the max), really anything to prevent a situation like this from being possible.
after the ridiculous Harden trade, why should Durant show any loyalty to OKC? LeBron's front office the first time around in Cleveland botched a ton of moves as well. Nothing wrong with seeking out a better situation.
And max contracts already are tied to the overall cap number.
He should do whatever he wants to do, but that still doesn't mean guys like me won't find it cowardly. If he jumped ship to GS that would go down is one of the lamest signings in sports history.
As for the cap, a max should account for a larger percentage of it.
OTOH, the prime Durant era Western Conference has been a murderers row of talent.
you could argue KD has more of a gripe than LeBron did. Danny Ferry at least was trying to put a good team around Lebron, he just failed. OKC, on the other hand, had a team of stars in place but was too cheap to keep it together.
He should do whatever he wants to do, but that still doesn't mean guys like me won't find it cowardly. If he jumped ship to GS that would go down is one of the lamest signings in sports history.
love this logic. By that reasoning, Philly should really be his preferred destination!
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He should do whatever he wants to do, but that still doesn't mean guys like me won't find it cowardly. If he jumped ship to GS that would go down is one of the lamest signings in sports history.
love this logic. By that reasoning, Philly should really be his preferred destination!
You don't have to like the logic at all and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. But in a game where there are only 5 starters and having 1 superstar alone will usually always get you to the playoffs, its very very lame seeing the super teams created. Even worse is seeing a top 2 or 3 player in the league leaving to the defending world champs.
The players have so much power its laughable. They make so much money on/off the court that they actual cap doesn't matter.
The players have so much power its laughable. They make so much money on/off the court that they actual cap doesn't matter.
who are you to say what they make off the court should have any impact at all on what they make in salary? What a bunch of bullshit. As for "power", you may want to re-think that a bit. The draft determines where they have to play for the first 4-5 years of their careers...and the CBA makes it so that the star players sign a second contract with the teams that draft them basically 99% of the time. And of course we're talking about the only major sport where individual earnings are capped.
What's interesting is that many folks are ok with super-teams being put together "organically" via the draft or trades but they get all riled up when it's done via free agency. It's pure nonsense. The so-called golden era of this league was the 80s when you had the Lakers and Celtics trotting out lineups stacked with not just all-stars but hall of famers.
Why would the NBA want to lockout? They just tripled their revenue with the new TV deal they signed just a few years after taking nearly a billion from their players.
Both sides are now making tremendous amounts of money.
They absolutely need tiered contracts of some sort. Whether its raising the max in proportion to the total cap, capping how many max contracts you can have on the team (or contracts within X percentage of the max), really anything to prevent a situation like this from being possible.
Were you also against LaMarcus Aldridge and David West joining an already loaded Spurs team?
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strike or lockout is right around the corner!
Why would the NBA want to lockout? They just tripled their revenue with the new TV deal they signed just a few years after taking nearly a billion from their players.
Both sides are now making tremendous amounts of money.
Plenty of mid and small market owners cried poor last time. The pie is larger than it's ever been, so they'll want their piece to be bigger.
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obviously just my opinion but if Durant did this it would be awful and I'd attack him like I attacked LeBron for the same thing. Durant is a hell of a lot more likable, but it would be a lame move just the same.
They absolutely need tiered contracts of some sort. Whether its raising the max in proportion to the total cap, capping how many max contracts you can have on the team (or contracts within X percentage of the max), really anything to prevent a situation like this from being possible.
Were you also against LaMarcus Aldridge and David West joining an already loaded Spurs team?
Yes, its corny. Though Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili are on their way out so its no where near as awful as going to a team with the 27 year old MVP and his 25 year old counterpart. I did root for Aldridge to go to SA though, they West needs someone to be able to take down GS. He was going to someone good so it might as well be them.
gotcha, but your claim of all this power held by the players is crap. And even if they did have power, your view that this is somehow a bad thing that that they should be looked down upon for wanting to get themselves to better situations reeks of classism.
See, I don't know. I can't fault someone for making a decision that would provide the joy of winning, and playing for what is turning into a phenomenal organization from ownership to front office to coaching staff to players. It would just be a shitload more fun.
I don't get the notion that players should somehow intentionally make things harder on themselves to placate fans who'd otherwise stick an asterisk next to their accomplishments. Would any reasonable person do that in any other walk of life? Did Miles Davis intentionally surround himself with shitty musicians to elevate his own accomplishments?