Add Ken Stabler to the CTE list

Has there been a retired player who's brain was studied that did not have CTE?

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there are 4 of them

In a study published by Frontline on Friday, a total of 87 out of 91 players were found to have the disease. The CTE research was carried out by the Department of Veterans Affairs and Boston University.
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have the disease?

I was thinking the same thing. Where is the base line or opposite number to show how much the numbers are atypical.

If the average 58-70 year old shows signs of CTE are the signs in a former football player x % higher than those. Or, does the average 58-70 year old not show any signs of CTE..

Not sure I ever saw him run out of bounds..In retrospect, not a smart thing imv

to this as well.

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We don’t know a lot. We don’t know the rate at which CTE develops, or the mechanism. We don’t know the correlation with playing football as compared to other contact sports. We don’t know if some people are predisposed to developing it. We don’t know how its symptoms manifest in the living. (We don’t know if it has symptoms—correlation is not causation.) We don’t know if there’s treatment. Each announcement of another CTE-riddled NFL brain amounts to, basically, cataloguing.

But that research is ongoing, and it’s a good thing it’s still a sexy diagnosis worthy of front-page stories on ESPN.com and in the New York Times—as we’ve seen, the NFL happily buried the research until it became too mainstream to ignore. Still, we know preciously little more about CTE than we did 15 years ago: football can do strange and bad things to your brain. If that’s the only takeaway, if the general public and parents and young football players internalize that, it’s still a big victory for giving people the knowledge to make important choices. The NFL long had its finger on the scales, but Ken Stabler’s brain is yet another weight tipping them the other way.

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have the disease?

Excellent question.

If so, she is a zealot. Not that I doubt CTE exits and does afflict ex-football players. I think it is obvious it does. But that doctor was a crusader who was blind to everything but her cause. You have to take anything a person like that says with a grin if salt.

People with CTE tend to have drug and alcohol problems.

And according to the linked Harvard Medical School synopsis, CTE in non-athletes shows up all right--but only in people who have experienced major non-sports related head trauma, such as car accidents or war.
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Who was my all-time favorite non-Giant player, drank as much as the guy he replaced at Bama-Joe Willie. Snake went from being 35-years old to being 65. He skipped 30 years. Football is a dangerous sport. But unlike other dangerous sports, there is a honey-pot worth billions of dollars for future settlements driving these autopsies . Live hard. Play hard. Abuse yourself on and off the field. End up with the brain of a field mouse-steelworker, cliff diver, jockey, racing car driver, lab technician...?

In comment 12798682 AP in Halfmoon said:

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have the disease?

I asked this same question in another of these threads awhile back.

In comment 12798675 knicks3031 said:

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Has there been a retired player who's brain was studied that did not have CTE?

When the day comes, I imagine a study of Terry Bradshaw's head will reveal an empty skull.

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In comment 12798682 AP in Halfmoon said:Quote:have the disease? I asked this same question in another of these threads awhile back.

I believe manhattan george supplied an answer at 11:55am

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People with CTE tend to have drug and alcohol problems. And according to the linked Harvard Medical School synopsis, CTE in non-athletes shows up all right--but only in people who have experienced major non-sports related head trauma, such as car accidents or war. Link - ( New Window )

I'm assuming that you aren't implying that the drugs/alcohol caused the CTE, but that the CTE was the root of the drugs/alcohol problem.

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Is Ann McKee the doctor in the documentary? If so, she is a zealot. Not that I doubt CTE exists and does afflict ex-football players. I think it is obvious it does. But that doctor was a crusader who was blind to everything but her cause. You have to take anything a person like that says with a grin if salt.

Do you have a shred of evidence to back that up? Everything I've read about McKee indicates that she's a football fan like us, conflicted about the toll our entertainment takes on players' health. Zealot? Crusader? Well, she's passionate about her work, and about the families of her subjects. She does publicize her findings. I don't see why any of that undermines her credibility. Is she supposed to keep her research a secret and let her funding from the VA and elsewhere dry up?