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Headhunter : 2/4/2016 8:26 am
The one player in the longest time I have no solid opinion on. Not looking to hear if you think he will boom or bust, but who is he as an NFL player?
He played in pieces of 4 games  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/4/2016 8:28 am : link
It's impossible to know the answer to this.
He's a run stopper who needs to learn how to rush the passer.  
Curtis in VA : 2/4/2016 8:31 am : link
No way of knowing what will happen with him and I would not in any way let his presence affect the need for more pass rushers.
TTH  
Headhunter : 2/4/2016 8:32 am : link
exactly. I don't know what he brings to the NFL table, good or bad
He has a leg - TC  
Diver_Down : 2/4/2016 8:33 am : link
That is all we know as an NFL player.
From what limited playing time I saw  
jcn56 : 2/4/2016 8:35 am : link
my guess would be neither boom nor bust, a middle of the pack rotational DE. Which is fine, although it'd be nice to get more from him.
Didn't we all have high hopes for this guy  
ZogZerg : 2/4/2016 8:37 am : link
less than a year ago? Why has that changed given he hasn't really played due to injury?
RE: Didn't we all have high hopes for this guy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/4/2016 8:42 am : link
In comment 12800193 ZogZerg said:
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less than a year ago? Why has that changed given he hasn't really played due to injury?


He was a well-regarded player in the draft by most media accounts.
A lot of the mocks had us looking at him in RD1 or 2  
jcn56 : 2/4/2016 8:44 am : link
Here's a writeup KWALL did before the draft.

I'd like to say I have high hopes, but I've got managed expectations from the Giants lately. Him not being able to get out there much in his rookie season didn't help matters much.
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=513310&show_all=1 - ( New Window )
He got hurt  
djstat : 2/4/2016 8:56 am : link
Give him an off season in the weight room. He has skills to be a solid player. Probably a Chris Canty type player in that very solid.
I was VERY high on him last year  
Sy'56 : 2/4/2016 8:57 am : link
Thought it was the top value pick of day 2 in the NFL last year grade wise.

He was underwhelming in preseason. Looked uncomfortable. Unathletic. Stiff.

I think his physical package is Tuck like...and when you go see his UCLA tapes thats who he looked like. Hoping he just needs more time and more than that...uninterrupted repetitions.
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 2/4/2016 9:01 am : link
For the time he was in, he seemed like the only Giants DE in recent memory that didn't bite on Quarterback option run and maintained edge responsibility
I agree that it's hard to judge anyone with limited playing time.  
Ira : 2/4/2016 9:14 am : link
He reminds me of Kiwanuka - a solid guy who rarely got to the qb. I don't think we need that kind of de.
RE: I was VERY high on him last year  
Victor in CT : 2/4/2016 9:18 am : link
In comment 12800210 Sy'56 said:
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Thought it was the top value pick of day 2 in the NFL last year grade wise.

He was underwhelming in preseason. Looked uncomfortable. Unathletic. Stiff.

I think his physical package is Tuck like...and when you go see his UCLA tapes thats who he looked like. Hoping he just needs more time and more than that...uninterrupted repetitions.


Sy, it's tough to judge the small sample size, but could it be that he needs to be a 3-4 end 2-gap type?
If he ever gets on the field, we'll see  
David B. : 2/4/2016 9:19 am : link
The hope was that the ceiling might be as high as Justin Tuck, and the floor is probably like Robert Ayers -- solid with occasional flashes.
I thought he looked slow  
Lowell : 2/4/2016 9:20 am : link
lacked quicks, explosion and seemed stiff.
The Giants redshirted DLs throughout the Coughlin years...  
Dunedin81 : 2/4/2016 9:22 am : link
Hankins, Joseph, Bromley all spent the bulk of season one riding the pine. That doesn't mean OO is cut out for stardom, but I think it's right to suspend judgment.
Hopefully,  
Simms11 : 2/4/2016 9:22 am : link
a full year in teh NFL will make him better. He needs to take the next step this year and show the value now. He's certainly got the strength. Also hoping that the new DLine Coach can further develop him!
Tuck is a good comparison  
JonC : 2/4/2016 9:27 am : link
Owa played 3-4 DE mostly at UCLA, so he's undergoing the learning process of both becoming an NFL pro, and a scheme/position switch. He needs to reach the point where his job becomes instinctive, he was obviously thinking too much out there. Looked good versus Bills, had some monster games at UCLA.
RE: Tuck is a good comparison  
AcidTest : 2/4/2016 9:32 am : link
In comment 12800264 JonC said:
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Owa played 3-4 DE mostly at UCLA, so he's undergoing the learning process of both becoming an NFL pro, and a scheme/position switch. He needs to reach the point where his job becomes instinctive, he was obviously thinking too much out there. Looked good versus Bills, had some monster games at UCLA.


^This. He's a position switcher, although many thought he was actually better suited for a 4-3 than the 3-4 he played at UCLA. But switching positions is tough, especially as a rookie. I do hope he isn't the dreaded injury prone player, since he had hip surgeries in college. The irony is that the Giants really wanted Lockett or Strong, but the Seahawks and Texans traded up ahead of them for those players.
Hopefully  
David B. : 2/4/2016 9:34 am : link
They won't Kiwi him. Seems less likely with a new staff.
Tuck...  
HoustonGiant : 2/4/2016 9:35 am : link
did very little his first two years (although he actually played in 14 games year 1). In his second year, he played very little due to injury.
has to stay healthy before  
bc4life : 2/4/2016 9:40 am : link
we know anything. two hip surgeries in college, a hamstring and a foot injury his rookie season. There is cause for concern, not panic yet, but concern.
Tuck, not Kiwi,  
ColHowPepper : 2/4/2016 9:53 am : link
is the better comparison. Would like to see him anchor better vs. the run and with increased strength, and Sy's and Lowell's characterization of stiff/unathletic are worrisome and a bit of what I saw. And we certainly didn't see much.

If the stiff/unathletic are a result of his hip issues, notwithstanding the Giants' med staff and scouts as a clean bill of health, this would be worrisome and, given recent player draft history at most positions, not surprising.
At this point  
The_Boss : 2/4/2016 9:55 am : link
I look at him like a baseball team looks at a star coming off the DL at the trade deadline. It's like a "free" acquisition. Odi is essentially an additional draft pick this year but he gets the major advantage of having some NFL season experience and gets the benefit of an entire offseason of seasoning (weight training/film/coaching/etc). I never thought he looked comfortable or confident in the time we saw him this year. I'm hopeful we see a completely different player next year.
OO  
stretch234 : 2/4/2016 10:52 am : link
He is a 6-3 270lb DE with loads of upside. Everyone thought he was going to get picked earlier than he did. Get him reps, get him on the field, get rid of Selvie & Wynn
the little I remember him  
eli4life : 2/4/2016 11:13 am : link
He looked like he was thinking a bit too much out there. Could be from switching to a 4-3 or not quite confident in the injury or maybe a combo of both. Hopefully a year in he will show much more
Victor  
Sy'56 : 2/4/2016 11:16 am : link
No Owa is much better off in the 4-3. He just needs some time and needs to stay on the field. Being in the NFL but not practicing/playing....can't progress that way. Gotta get him healthy then go from there.
people always say kiwi  
gm7b5 : 2/4/2016 11:33 am : link
couldnt get to the passer. From my memory, and it was awhile back, he looked to be an effective rusher early in his career. Then the staff started fucking with him at lbker after he got hurt. Party was over then.
I'm still waiting for him to become  
Upstate_Giants_fan : 2/4/2016 12:00 pm : link
Odi Wan Kenobi :(
RE: Victor  
Victor in CT : 2/4/2016 12:55 pm : link
In comment 12800535 Sy'56 said:
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No Owa is much better off in the 4-3. He just needs some time and needs to stay on the field. Being in the NFL but not practicing/playing....can't progress that way. Gotta get him healthy then go from there.


Thank you Sy
Owa  
hotrod48 : 2/4/2016 4:23 pm : link
I hope that under a new coach,rookies will be given more of an opportunity to play. TC was a butt head about giving kids a chance to show their stuff IMO . Here`s hopin.
RE: Owa  
Victor in CT : 2/4/2016 4:40 pm : link
In comment 12801140 hotrod48 said:
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I hope that under a new coach,rookies will be given more of an opportunity to play. TC was a butt head about giving kids a chance to show their stuff IMO . Here`s hopin.


This is so patently false that it leads one to believe that you never actually watch a game.
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