- David Lee to be traded or bought out. If he's bought out would we want him back?
- With the trade deadline approaching the Knicks are in limbo. They don't have enough assets to make a move for a good player. However, they might be able to get Brandon Jennings. I don't love him, but would you do it as a low risk move to make a playoff run? Would he even be healthy enough to move the needle?
- He can deny it all he wants. It really looks like Porzingis is hitting the rookie wall.
Yeah that seems about right. These 2 so far seem the far and away the top 2 guys in the draft. Maybe Brown is up there with them. But the following prospects seem to have bigger flaws in their game. I admittedly haven't watched those guys enough to comment one way or another.
I agree with Hahn when he said that dealing him now makes 2016 free agency a tough sell, and might even impact KP's development, forcing him into a role he isn't ready for.
Re Melo, agree it isnt this year. Unless LA wants Melo + Thomas for Blake. You do that.
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Where does he fit in NY? I mean, it's not crazy to pair him with KP. But Rolo seems like a better fit against big lineups, and Melo/Thomas/Williams seems like a better fit against small.
Per 36 minutes: 40.3% from 2, 15.4% from 3, 78.5% FT. 10.8 points, 5.4 assists, 4 rebs, 1.2 steals, 2.4 TOs, 0.4 3s. 9.2 PER, .001 WS48.
Payne: #14 pick, 6-3, 185. 34 games, 392 minutes, 11.5 mpg (Westbrook's backup).
Per 36 minutes: 48.4% from 2, 39.7% from 3, 76.9% FT. 16.8 points, 5.8 asists, 5.1 rebounds, 2.3 steals, 1.7 TOs, 2.5 3s. 18.2 PER, .181 WS/48 (suggestive of allstar potential)
(note: Knicks play a very, very slow pace; per 100 possession #s would pad Grants stats better)
lol, you were told to stay away from Tommy Dee.
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Dee wants to send Melo to Miami for a Winslow/Johnson package.
lol, you were told to stay away from Tommy Dee.
I really need to unfollow him. Every single tweet is about how the media hates the Knicks, how the media sucks... when that's his supposed "job" too. I have never seen a bigger homer in my life. Like off the wall homer. I say "not a big deal in the grand scheme but a bit of a misstep from Phil letting Larkin go, even if he wasn't a great fit" and he acts like I'm trashing Phil Jackson.
Grant needs to resolve his finish and his jumper. If he does that he's absolutely a starter IMO. If he does one, borderline starter/absolutely rotation guy. If he does neither, he's gone.
There are encouraging non-shooting/finishing signs from him. IMO he's our best backcourt defender. He gets to the rim. Best entry pass on the team. He needs to work in the gym, HARD, this summer. The scouting reports are not pessimistic about his long term shooting potential, and I think the finishing issue is mostly a strength thing.
Winslow is very hyped. I dont see it (I mean, I see some of it). But the sheer amount of hype gives me some pause that there is probably smoke to that fire. I do think that some if it is just he's the best draftee in Miami in FOREVER, and is known from the NCAAs.
NOT a knock on Fish tho - just the situ. We knew JGs strengths, but haven't been able to work with it while other parts of his game are behind the curve. Again it's why I'm big on chasing a few even mid-grade PGs / Gs (DeRozan, Conley, Batum of course, but even Turner, Chalmers, Bazemore help our FB immediately). And that helps a guy like Grant even b4 the individual improvements
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defends the Winslow idea, I say Winslow might have nice upside but right now he's an awful offensive player. Then he retweets another guy agreeing with the idea comparing Winslow to Leonard at the same stage. I point out the statistical differences and he ignores it lol
Winslow is very hyped. I dont see it (I mean, I see some of it). But the sheer amount of hype gives me some pause that there is probably smoke to that fire. I do think that some if it is just he's the best draftee in Miami in FOREVER, and is known from the NCAAs.
At this point Winslow is a scrapper on offense. That said, I could see him filling out that Jae Crowder type, strong D, while the 3 comes sooner or later. His athleticism probably gives him slightly higher potential. I think he'll be a solid starter but there were many guys taken after him that I think will end up being better. Everyone seemed to think it was ludicrous to take Stan the Man ahead of Winslow, now we sort of see why.
It's kinda weird that they are doing this now. Every player outside Giannis couldn't have much lower value. Parker, who was a viable #1 overall option last year, seems to have fallen off the pedestal a bit, maybe because of the injury? Parker's lack of shooting and defense is a huge concern, though.
I'd assume Middleton isn't on the block either. He's their best player, certainly has a TON of value.
I feel like teams don't see Monroe as a starting option. He'd be a solid bench option but it doesn't seem you can beat many teams with him as your starting center, especially when no one else on your team can shoot. Same goes with MCW. Milwaukee is filled with players that would make solid rotational options on a great team, but not many guys that you'd want as a starter (aside from Giannis and Middleton).
I think when push comes to shove GA and KM might be guys who peak at being good enough to be the #3-4 players on championship teams rather than #1-2 players. GA has the potential to make a huge leap though.
Doesn't make sense to me either. Trading away a solid player who is on a solid deal going forward for a middle of the pack PG coming of injury and is about to hit FA. That's just asking to get Jennings on a bad deal just because you trade for him. Young will have more value in due time.
To Knicks: Ty Lawson, Trevor Ariza, K.J. McDaniels, Terrance Jones, Sam Dekker, Montrezl Harrell
To Houston Rockets: Carmelo Anthony, Jose Calderon, Sasha Vujacic, Cleanthony Early
To Knicks: Brandon Jennings (DET)
To Detroit Pistons: Markieff Morris (PHX), Ronnie Price (PHX)
To Phoenix Suns: Jose Calderon (NYK)
Knicks-Bucks-Timberwolves-Clippers
To Knicks: Jamal Crawford (LAC), Michael Carter-Williams (MIL), Miles Plumlee (MIL)
To Milwaukee Bucks: Kyle O'Quinn (NYK), Jerian Grant (NYK)
To Minnesota Timberwolves: C.J. Wilcox (LAC), Branden Dawson (LAC), 2nd round draft pick (2019 from LAC)
To L.A. Clippers: Kevin Martin (MIN), Tayshaun Prince (MIN), Lou Amundson (NYK)
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That third one would be a steal. No idea why the other teams do it.
The Rockets idea is just bad and too many players involved to be realistic.
The Clippers have no reason to trade a productive bench player for 3 shit players for no reason.
Really question the basketball knowledge of whoever wrote that.
This was the downside risk of Monroe. That he'd be a 23 PER player and STILL not make them better. Though I havent watched them much -- I dont know whose fault the decline really is.
To Knicks: Ty Lawson, Trevor Ariza, K.J. McDaniels, Terrance Jones, Sam Dekker, Montrezl Harrell
To Houston Rockets: Carmelo Anthony, Jose Calderon, Sasha Vujacic, Cleanthony Early
Eww, no. Vomit no. Eww eww eww.
To Detroit Pistons: Markieff Morris (PHX), Ronnie Price (PHX)
To Phoenix Suns: Jose Calderon (NYK)
Ok. Though I'd probably prefer Morris (who I could them pawn off for value. Dont know why the Suns do this.
To Knicks: Jamal Crawford (LAC), Michael Carter-Williams (MIL), Miles Plumlee (MIL)
To Milwaukee Bucks: Kyle O'Quinn (NYK), Jerian Grant (NYK)
To Minnesota Timberwolves: C.J. Wilcox (LAC), Branden Dawson (LAC), 2nd round draft pick (2019 from LAC)
To L.A. Clippers: Kevin Martin (MIN), Tayshaun Prince (MIN), Lou Amundson (NYK)
So KOQ and Grant for MCW + whatever we can flip Craw for. Talent-wise an upgrade, but MCW has one year of cost control left. If Phil likes him and wants to see him audition for a year here and maybe get an extension (or extend this offseason) I can live with that gamble. But Im not a big MCW fan, and I tend to like cheap cost controlled long term assets like Grant and KOQ are.
You'd trade Melo for Dekker? Didnt Dekker break his back or something?
This was the downside risk of Monroe. That he'd be a 23 PER player and STILL not make them better. Though I havent watched them much -- I dont know whose fault the decline really is.
The problem with Monroe is he's not a star and I think people expect him to be. He's not a good defensive player and as a center that gets magnified.
I don't think he's the main reason for the decline of the Bucks. It's more likely that they overachieved last year and they miss Brandon Knight, Zaza Pachulia, and even Ilyasova more than they thought they would.
Ha! Nice of you to drop by, Jon!
The last trade: I'm all for trading nothing for 3 solid enough rotation players of course. But that seems more like filling a word quota - so let's make it a 4 teamer. Not really sure why the other 3 would do it outside of very broad reasoning - MIN gets younger (if that's a 'good' thing with those assets), the Bucks just happy to clean house for nothing-ish (maybe...). A lot of iffy assumptions for us to get 3 of the best players in the deal, i'd think
The last trade: I'm all for trading nothing for 3 solid enough rotation players of course. But that seems more like filling a word quota - so let's make it a 4 teamer. Not really sure why the other 3 would do it outside of very broad reasoning - MIN gets younger (if that's a 'good' thing with those assets), the Bucks just happy to clean house for nothing-ish (maybe...). A lot of iffy assumptions for us to get 3 of the best players in the deal, i'd think
That article is just a lack of understanding of how trades work. When have you seen 4 team trades? The only reason there are 3 team trades is if it takes a third team to act as a clearinghouse for salary and usually get compensated in prospects or picks. A third team doesn't get involved simply to help one of the teams for nothing in return.
That article is just a lack of understanding of how trades work. When have you seen 4 team trades? The only reason there are 3 team trades is if it takes a third team to act as a clearinghouse for salary and usually get compensated in prospects or picks. A third team doesn't get involved simply to help one of the teams for nothing in return.
Makes up for it with an understanding of how clickbait works.
Either you despise him or you think the roster is so abhorrent that coaching doesn't matter.