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A question on today's value of LT......

Tom [Giants fan] : 2/4/2016 9:57 am
First off, Happy Birthday LT.

Second, how much in today's salary cap era do you think LT could have received? Yearly average salary and signing bonus?
Happy Birthday LT  
jcn56 : 2/4/2016 10:01 am : link
(let's keep the celebrations on the level, OK?)

I think LT would be paid a top-5 NFL salary. Probably in line with the highest paid QB. That's assuming his impact would be the same - the guy was a defensive wrecking ball, he was #1 on the list of things the opposing team had to account for every week.
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Danny Kanell : 2/4/2016 10:05 am : link
He'd be getting Suh type money.
LT to John Mara:  
Victor in CT : 2/4/2016 10:07 am : link
howdy pardner!
He ended his 1990 holdout to become the highest paid defensive  
Peter in Atl : 2/4/2016 10:28 am : link
player. He'd be making Suh money.
Reese would let him test the market at the end of his first contract  
wgenesis123 : 2/4/2016 10:43 am : link
and LT would play for someone else.
^ now that's funny  
GiantNatty : 2/4/2016 10:46 am : link
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Peter  
AP in Halfmoon : 2/4/2016 10:48 am : link
do you recall what he earned?
He was way the fuck  
Phil in LA : 2/4/2016 10:52 am : link
better than Suh.
RE: Peter  
Milton : 2/4/2016 10:54 am : link
In comment 12800452 AP in Halfmoon said:
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do you recall what he earned?
I think he was making $2.5M/year on his last deal (but I'm going off of memory).
RE: He was way the fuck  
Peter in Atl : 2/4/2016 10:55 am : link
In comment 12800462 Phil in LA said:
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better than Suh.


Don't disagree but Suh's the high watermark for defensive players.
Just googled it....  
Milton : 2/4/2016 10:56 am : link
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Lawrence Taylor is back with the New York Giants as the highest-paid defensive player in the history of professional football.

He signed a contract extension Wednesday that will pay him $4.6 million through 1992. Then he took part in the afternoon practice and said he would be ready for at least some duty Sunday night in the season opener here against the Philadelphia Eagles.

The All-Pro outside linebacker, who was in the option year of his contract, was supposed to be paid $1.21 million this year. He held out for 44 days while trying to get a contract extension worth $2 million a year.

A source with knowledge of the negotiations said Taylor`s salary and signing bonus would total $1.6 million per year, and his salary would be about $1.5 million in 1991 and about $1.5 million in 1992. At Taylor`s request, some of that money will be deferred. He can earn additional money from what his agent, Joe Courrege, called ``generous incentives.``

The highest previous salary for a defensive player was the $1.35 million the Eagles are paying this year to defensive end Reggie White.

San Francisco quarterback Joe Montana will earn $4 million this year.
RE: Peter  
Peter in Atl : 2/4/2016 10:58 am : link
In comment 12800452 AP in Halfmoon said:
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do you recall what he earned?


LA Times says $1.6M
Oh wow.....  
Tom [Giants fan] : 2/4/2016 11:05 am : link
those are numbers he would be making per game now I would assume.
LT would be franchised  
Matt in SGS : 2/4/2016 11:06 am : link
and he would never hit the open market. At that point they would end up giving him the highest paid contract for a defensive player. But if LT were around today, with facebook, twitter, everyone with a smartphone, Goodell would probably have suspended him already.
I recall the headlines  
Randy in CT : 2/4/2016 11:30 am : link
calling him the 5 million dollar man, or something like that.
Still an exceedingly useful player, would sign him obviously  
idiotsavant : 2/4/2016 11:32 am : link
that said, the pass rush aspect;

going against todays 320lb OTs as opposed to the average then, 270 or what have you:

It is a very different game in that respect.

That said, he had off the charts balance and athleticism and instincts, power and toughness, so if one can get around an OT without being touched, that can be helpful.

Never the less, it IS a new game now. I linked DE bruce smith recently, played during a similar time frame at 265, closer to a 4/3 player...no reason DEs don't continue to get bigger (yes, LT was 3/4 LB, so shit) as long as they have unusual A/A as well, caveat emptor on a few of them this draft.
bruce smith 1990 19 sacks  
idiotsavant : 2/4/2016 11:36 am : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZitnUJziLM
sticking to DE's as opposed to LBs  
idiotsavant : 2/4/2016 11:49 am : link
Reggie White also played in the 80's - 90's, the 'era of much smaller offensive tackles' compared to now, yet at 6'5" closer to 300!


Tackles:
1,112

Sacks:
198.0

Forced fumbles:
33


3INTs 3TDs
The only way we will know is if  
chuckydee9 : 2/4/2016 12:02 pm : link
JJ Watt becomes a FA.. There isn't another player today thats as impactful as LT..
LT couldn't handle bigger tackles?  
Greg from LI : 2/4/2016 12:07 pm : link
Wanna bet? Joe Jacoby was a 6'7" 310 lbs All Pro left tackle, and LT owned him.
RE: The only way we will know is if  
Go Terps : 2/4/2016 12:13 pm : link
In comment 12800643 chuckydee9 said:
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JJ Watt becomes a FA.. There isn't another player today thats as impactful as LT..


JJ Watt isn't in LT's universe. Watt is so overrated.
RE: RE: The only way we will know is if  
Victor in CT : 2/4/2016 12:18 pm : link
In comment 12800667 Go Terps said:
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In comment 12800643 chuckydee9 said:


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JJ Watt becomes a FA.. There isn't another player today thats as impactful as LT..



JJ Watt isn't in LT's universe. Watt is so overrated.


fuckin' A right. NO comparison.
RE: LT couldn't handle bigger tackles?  
Victor in CT : 2/4/2016 12:22 pm : link
In comment 12800655 Greg from LI said:
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Wanna bet? Joe Jacoby was a 6'7" 310 lbs All Pro left tackle, and LT owned him.


Jim Lachey 6'6" 294 lbs with better footwork too.
Why compare him to DE's?q  
chilly460 : 2/4/2016 12:30 pm : link
He played a stand up OLB, same type of role as Von Miller or Clay Matthews (before he became hybrid MLB) play the position that LT "invented".

Sure, he was "only" 245-250 but he didn't workout at all, if he played in today's game he'd be a freakish 260-265lb but with the agility/speed that made him special coming off the edge.

And, I personally think DE's in a 4-3 seem to be getting smaller. Game is all about pass rush nowadays, and guys down around 260 or so are quicker around the edge, and not as much run responsibility so they can play lighter.
Unfortunately he would probably be banned for drugs  
Rudy5757 : 2/4/2016 2:28 pm : link
If he played today the drug policy would probably would have caught him. I loved watching him play but always wondered if he was able to abuse his body like that because of the drugs.

In any event, he would still be one of the greatest. In addition to the talent, he gave 100% on every play which is what made him great. There are plenty of guys around the NFL that have great talent, but many take plays off. his weight owuld not have been an issue. If I recall Strahan dropped weight his last few seasons to become quicker and was still pretty dominant.
His contract would probably average $20-25MM/year.  
Big Blue Blogger : 2/4/2016 3:09 pm : link
The sticky part would be the guaranteed money and the language protecting the team against him getting into trouble.

Think about this: As the #2 pick in the draft, Taylor would have signed a four-year contract with a team option for year five (1985). If he played out that deal and signed a new one in 1986, he would have justified his monster second contract with possibly the greatest regular season by a defensive player in the history of the game. By the time he crossed the goal line after his interception of Montana in the divisional round, we'd have been hailing George Young for an epic bargain.
if LT played today  
djm : 2/4/2016 3:37 pm : link
he'd be bigger and faster just like today's players are bigger and faster. I know that's hard to fathom for some but at least try.

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