Disastrous hiring decision in 1991 cost him as well as not preparing for the scab games in 1987. Just a couple of more playoff appearances in that 1984-1993 era would put him over the top. We missed in '87, '88,'91 and '92. 3 of those are squarely on him.
He also squeezed in a few good years during the mid 90s (93,97) and his overall contributions both to the Giants and NFL are immeasurable. His down years... We're talking 4 bad years out of 20 cmon. Young's legacy is all over the NFL to this day. If that's not a hofer what is?
and he should be. He is not in the same class as Debartalo.
I lived in Bay Area 1968-1998 before i moved to Vegas. I hated the Niners. But the Guy was a Genious. He was the King of restructuring deals to get talent in town
Something GY could never master. Nuff Said Youngs NOT worthy, Sorry!
during which he systematically annilated a great team, with a fundamentalist interpretation of the cap, to protect his beloved middle class (his politics were Bernie Sanders), pretty much negates GYI as far as I'm concerned. And not allowing Parcells back iced it for me.
He broke down in tears sitting on the Giants bench long after the team left following their victory over the Skins last game 96 season, which clinched the division. He retired afterward. I would like to think he was balling in shame for his obstinate ways that dismantled a team that still had 2 good runs in it for another Super Bowl. Or maybe it was choosing Handley after he let Belichick know that he didn't consider the future great GM-HC to be head-coaching timber. But, whatever the cause, he never publicly said he was sorry so I never forgave him. I don't regret it, either.
I couldn't stand him. He was blessed to have parcels and Bellichic as coaches and watching the giants teams he built in the 90's after the super bowl win were brutal to watch. He let players walk from the Super Bowl team, forced parcells out over a power struggle, chose Handley, let key players from the super bowl team leave when they had another run in them and let's not forget his golden boy Dave Brown who was probably the worst QB's ever drafted. This guy gets way more credit than he deserves and did more harm then good. As much as we get on Reese, he's miles ahead of this ham and egger...
stop the bashing, if it wasn't for George Young we won't have our first two Super Bowl Victories.
Yes unfortunately he couldn't adapt to the salary cap and because of that his 90s teams were not good.
But we should be eternally grateful for him helping us lead us out of the desert.
Maybe not HOF worthy but clearly hia work in the 80s makes him a great GM in the annuals of Giants History
surprised by all of the negativity about Young here.
The Giants were an incompetent mess...worse than the Cleveland Browns...for two decades before he arrived. He won FIVE executive of the year awards and his teams won two NFL titles despite playing in THE BEST division in football bar none.
maybe it's my anti-49er bias showing, but my impression of DeBartalo back in the day was that he was a cheating scumbag.
That's still my impression of DeBartolo, and the NFL and the HOF can go fuck themselves, along with the mouthbreathing idiots that consider themselves Giants fans while bashing George Young, the main reason we have ANY of the titles currently on the shelf.
I couldn't stand him. He was blessed to have parcels and Bellichic as coaches and watching the giants teams he built in the 90's after the super bowl win were brutal to watch. He let players walk from the Super Bowl team, forced parcells out over a power struggle, chose Handley, let key players from the super bowl team leave when they had another run in them and let's not forget his golden boy Dave Brown who was probably the worst QB's ever drafted. This guy gets way more credit than he deserves and did more harm then good. As much as we get on Reese, he's miles ahead of this ham and egger...
This might be the dumbest thing ever posted on this site.
George thought the guy who turned out to be the greatest coach of his era just did not have the makings of a good HC.
And he hired an absolute incompetent in his place. Yes, I know BB had already left when Parcells resigned but he left because he was not getting the Giants job.
Imo BB deserves as much credit for the two SBs as Young or Parcells. The coaching job in 1990 was perhaps the best ever. 4 DL against Chicago, 3 DL against SF, and 2 DL against Buffalo. Totally brilliant.
Might seem unfair to kill GY for one decision but some decisions have monumental consequences.
There is no way you would argue against his HOF candidacy. He had some absolutely brilliant drafts and turned around an embarrassing mess of a franchise. Yes he made mistakes along the way but so did every other NFL executive who is in the HOF. if you are judging him based on the mistakes he made in the 90s then you are not being fair.
How many general managers are in the Hall of Fame?
He certainly turned around the franchise in the 1980s but he also turned it back into a mess with poor decisions and inability to adapt to Free Agency in the 1990s.
The voters must be the same guys who vote for the R n'R HOF.
I lived in Bay Area 1968-1998 before i moved to Vegas. I hated the Niners. But the Guy was a Genious. He was the King of restructuring deals to get talent in town
Something GY could never master. Nuff Said Youngs NOT worthy, Sorry!
He broke down in tears sitting on the Giants bench long after the team left following their victory over the Skins last game 96 season, which clinched the division. He retired afterward. I would like to think he was balling in shame for his obstinate ways that dismantled a team that still had 2 good runs in it for another Super Bowl. Or maybe it was choosing Handley after he let Belichick know that he didn't consider the future great GM-HC to be head-coaching timber. But, whatever the cause, he never publicly said he was sorry so I never forgave him. I don't regret it, either.
Yes unfortunately he couldn't adapt to the salary cap and because of that his 90s teams were not good.
But we should be eternally grateful for him helping us lead us out of the desert.
Maybe not HOF worthy but clearly hia work in the 80s makes him a great GM in the annuals of Giants History
The Giants were an incompetent mess...worse than the Cleveland Browns...for two decades before he arrived. He won FIVE executive of the year awards and his teams won two NFL titles despite playing in THE BEST division in football bar none.
That's still my impression of DeBartolo, and the NFL and the HOF can go fuck themselves, along with the mouthbreathing idiots that consider themselves Giants fans while bashing George Young, the main reason we have ANY of the titles currently on the shelf.
This might be the dumbest thing ever posted on this site.
And he hired an absolute incompetent in his place. Yes, I know BB had already left when Parcells resigned but he left because he was not getting the Giants job.
Imo BB deserves as much credit for the two SBs as Young or Parcells. The coaching job in 1990 was perhaps the best ever. 4 DL against Chicago, 3 DL against SF, and 2 DL against Buffalo. Totally brilliant.
Might seem unfair to kill GY for one decision but some decisions have monumental consequences.
I have no opinion on the HOF thing, other than that to be a GM and get in, you had to have had an amazing career, and I'm not sure GY is there.
whatever...
criminal?
Must be missing something --- don't see how he is critical to tell the NFL story.
Would not be good if it is because he is the first black Head Coach to win a SB because it suggests that standard for HOF tweaked to get him in.