The ball touched the ground and slid up Cotchery's body. Now I don't know if this was discussed anywhere else however, but I imagine it was. And I could really give a damn who won. I just wanted to see a good game. But how in the world can Dean Blandino make such a definitive statement.
It was clear from every angle they could possibly show us, and they showed us some really good angles, the ball never touched the ground. Again Mike Carey was made to look like a fool. I don't know of anyone who didn't think it was a catch after the review. Simms and Nance I think we're totally shocked and really didn't know what to say.
It makes you wonder if Dean Blandino isn't the one really pulling the strings in an instance like this. Even though Blakeman the referee went under the hood was Blandino in his earpiece calling the shot. Without a doubt it had an effect on the game but the way Denver's defense was playing I don't think it would have mattered. It's just a reminder of how fucked up the rules in the NFL have become and with this asshole Dean Blandino leading the charge it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
And, I think the calls were EVEN for the game. The was a BS personal foul penalty called on Denver where Carolina should have had to punt, but instead was given a first down.
This time, I thought he did a good job.
He was definitive, clear spoken, and concise - pretty much the opposite of what he has been all year long.
I think it just goes to show, nobody knows what a catch is...you can ding him for not getting the call right, but not for how he handled his analysis (for once!)
Did anyone see if Mike Pereira was on twitter during the game and what his take was? I like his analysis much more... but to be fair, he gets a few wrong too.
All that stands is that he's a vulgarian who can't rationally make a case without using inappropriate foulness.
Try this you childish narrow brained, dirty mouthed Schmuck, It was NOT CLEAR, reasonable people can disagree on this one and lots of people do - including the refs who had the task of reviewing the play and the majority of commentators here including this poster.
2) The first time they showed the replay, I thought it was a catch. Then, when they slowed it down from the other side, I said the nose of the ball hit the ground and moved.
3) It also didn't help that the ball seemed to shift 2 or 3 times on his way down to begin with.
4) What I don't get is how Carey, a trained official, watched that replay over and over and doesn't see the ball hit, or at the very least the possibility of the ball hitting the ground.
Explain the ruling stands on the catch b/c there was no clear evidence to overturn the ruling
Explain why you pick up the flag on Denvers D - because Cam was out of the pocket.
Explain why the flag stood in the end zone against Carolina even though the ball was uncatchable. It's b/c the hold took place before the pass was thrown
Things like that would go a long way in my opinion.
It seems pretty clear that the ball hits the ground... don't know how Simms, Nantz, and everyone else who say they dont see it, don't see it..
Pause the video link at 4 seconds... yes his hand is around the ball, but the nose touches the ground... if it didn't move afterwards then its still a catch, but then it does move, so it isn't..
Explain the ruling stands on the catch b/c there was no clear evidence to overturn the ruling
Explain why you pick up the flag on Denvers D - because Cam was out of the pocket.
Explain why the flag stood in the end zone against Carolina even though the ball was uncatchable. It's b/c the hold took place before the pass was thrown
Things like that would go a long way in my opinion.
Some of this is on the announcers and some of this they typically do. Most defensive holdings/illegal contact they'll announce "prior to the pass..." even though it's implied by the penalty (after the pass would be PI).
The refs definitely need to improve on their explanations following replays though. Did he think the ball hit the ground or was their a brief moment where he couldn't see the nose of the ball from any angle where the ball may have hit the ground?
Now he does regain control of the ball but it had already touched the ground.
Now he does regain control of the ball but it had already touched the ground.
Yeah, I agree with this. I didn't see it live or in the replays but if you still frame the link provided above you can see that this is what happened. No catch was the right call.
WR can avoid the mess by staying on their feet and complete the catch.
Too many WR are advancing the ball too soon and it becomes a habit.
WR's job is the catch the ball and not just those that are easy to catch --- the good WR work to catch the ball --- how many games would have a different outcome if WR would just catch the ball ?
That's actually part of the reason Hochuli usually gets good marks as a ref. He's good at explaining his rationale on most calls (sometimes too much).
yep.
Ref never said call is confirm only that it stands, which means they could not tell from replays.
Mike Carey is basically the Stan in LA of sports broadcasting.
what does it matter what blandino or whatever says, it affects nothing
what does it matter what blandino or whatever says, it affects nothing
For starters, the head ref consults with the NFL officiating office (i.e. Blandino and others) during the review process.
That said, it would have been much more interesting if the call had been a catch. I believe that would have stood as well because you can't really definitively see the ball hit the ground without a hand under it, but it would be a much closer review.
This time, I thought he did a good job.
He was definitive, clear spoken, and concise - pretty much the opposite of what he has been all year long.
I think it just goes to show, nobody knows what a catch is...you can ding him for not getting the call right, but not for how he handled his analysis (for once!)
Did anyone see if Mike Pereira was on twitter during the game and what his take was? I like his analysis much more... but to be fair, he gets a few wrong too.
Always liked him as a ref but I am pretty sure he is done on TV