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NFT: Knicks Chat: I'm growing more concerned with Melo's health

DanMetroMan : 2/8/2016 10:13 am
“It’s not going to heal in a week or a couple days or two weeks,” Anthony said after finishing with 21 points, six rebounds and seven assists in 35 minutes in Sunday’s loss to the Denver Nuggets. “What I had done, the procedure I had done, is going to take time to heal.”

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Anthony’s surgically repaired left knee has already cost him seven games this season while robbing him of a quick first step and any explosiveness at the rim. The Knicks have copped to giving Anthony one MRI but according to a team source, Anthony has had two MRIs in the past three weeks so the concern over his long-term health is very real. “Today, it wasn’t that sore,” Anthony said. “I think the couple of days off helped.”

-Tobias Harris "is available"

-Miami interested in Rudy Gay
Never understood re-signing Melo..  
Sean : 2/8/2016 10:20 am : link
obviously there are diehards on this site like DMM, Mook, arcarsenal, etc. who live and die by every Knick game who would be better equipped to have an opinion on Melo, but I would have moved on from him.
Move on from Melo to replace him with what?  
Deej : 2/8/2016 10:25 am : link
What free agent was coming here? We didnt own our picks except for the KP draft. Letting him go for nothing would have been silly.

Melo is going to have to grit it out. Seems like he's expected to be better next season -- this is just the natural healing time. I wouldnt run him too hard. Season is mostly over IMO. ESPN gives us .7% chance for the playoffs, BBR gives us 1.6%.
RE: Never understood re-signing Melo..  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2016 10:25 am : link
In comment 12805737 Sean said:
Quote:
obviously there are diehards on this site like DMM, Mook, arcarsenal, etc. who live and die by every Knick game who would be better equipped to have an opinion on Melo, but I would have moved on from him.


I was actually hoping Melo would leave via sign and trade and the Knicks would blow it up. In fairness I didn't expect whomever we got in the draft to be "this good" but I wasn't pro-keeping Melo personally.
I'd manage Melo's minutes in an effort  
Ash_3 : 2/8/2016 10:26 am : link
to make him look as good as possible. You look to trade him in the offseason.
Letting him walk would've got  
giantsfan44ab : 2/8/2016 10:37 am : link
Us nowhere. Now at least we have whatever trade value he is worth, can flip him for pieces and picks.
by the time fans want to trade someone  
hitdog42 : 2/8/2016 10:38 am : link
the value is usually gone... unless you are dealing with billy king... who has been fired
I think the Knee is the main reason that he's been shooting poorly  
BeerFridge : 2/8/2016 10:38 am : link
It's definitely a problem. Hopefully a little rest and rehab will get it better.
Trade involving  
giantsfan44ab : 2/8/2016 10:42 am : link
Melo and Harris on the way?
I dont  
NJGiantFan84 : 2/8/2016 10:46 am : link
Think Melo is accepting a trade to Orlando.
Lets say Melo walks in the summer of 2014  
Deej : 2/8/2016 10:47 am : link
No decent FA signs here. It's a given. We'd have the worst roster in the NBA except maybe Philly. Bargs and Calderon and Dalembert FTW. THJR takes 15 shots/game. Maybe we get a different draft position, but we got the 2nd best player in the draft, who may end up the best. So we could only have done slightly better.

Summer 2015; 2015-16 season: Jordan, Monroe, and Aldridge still turn us down. Not clear if Rolo and AA want to sign here. Knicks either overpay worse players, or go into tank mode in a season where DEN/TOR owns their #1. Yay! The rookie gets brutalized with no lineup protection.

Summer 2016, 2016-17 season: Shitty roster plus KP/Towns/Okafor/Russell. Durant, Horford dont even take meetings here. No #1 pick. Nothing to trade. Year 2 of watching the grass dry as the rookies develop.

Summer of 2017; 2017-18 season: Knicks land no one in UFA. Cap is $109 million, and every good UFA can sign with the dozen good teams that will get them to the playoffs. KP continues to develop (sinking our chances of a top 3 pick); Grant too, or not -- maybe he never fixes his shot/finish.

Can someone paint me a realistic, optimistic script where Melo leaves and we're better off for it?
Deej  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2016 10:51 am : link
not that I totally disagree but I'm pretty sure the Knicks could have signed an Afflalo or better player with or without Melo. As for Lopez, he too might have signed here. We offered him the most money by almost all accounts. I really doubt Melo was the deciding factor given the fact I doubt he even knew who Porzingis was, he was that ego to join Melo and an embarrassing Knicks roster? he followed the money.
Verified  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/8/2016 10:55 am : link
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2m2 minutes ago

ESPN sources say that the Knicks have fired coach Derek Fisher
Derek Fisher fired?  
Drastic252 : 2/8/2016 10:56 am : link
Just heard it on ESPN radio
.  
Sgrcts : 2/8/2016 10:57 am : link
"Why? He's doing the greatest job!"

-SethFromAstoria
Afflalo wanted to play with Melo again  
Deej : 2/8/2016 10:58 am : link
Maybe AA insists on more money, or shops himself elsewhere to have a rebound season and hit the market again from a better environment. I dont recall what other offers were for Rolo. I remember him having a deal here contingent on Jordan falling thru. What would the Rolo market have been had he waited to agree until after Jordan decided. Would the Mavs have come over the top?

In any event, Rolo, Afflalo, rookie KP = terrible. Arent we like 0-8 or 0-9 without Melo? Is there a realistic counterfactual you can think of where we're somehow better off during/after 2014-15, 15-16, and 16-17 with KP + whatever free agents our Melo-less roster draws? Because I cant, and that is primarily my point: letting Melo walk may have made sense in a vacuum but not in real life.
The Knicks  
Metnut : 2/8/2016 10:59 am : link
should immediately call Tom Thibodeau and offer to make him one of the 3 highest paid coaches in the league.
I guess as soon as mgmt is convinced playoffs are out of reach  
TJ : 2/8/2016 12:15 pm : link
you sit melo for as long as it takes for him to recover. I like Melo's game and his willingness to change his game to fit the team's meeds. If he really has a chance to return to full health I'd like to see him stay.
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