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| Most figured it was just Newton in a bad mood. But now we know the real reason why Cam bailed: He heard Denver's Chris Harris explain close by that their gameplan was to make Carolina prove it could throw the football (which obviously the Panthers did not do well on Sunday). Here's what Harris said: "Load the box, force y'all to throw the ball. Can you throw the football? That was the gameplan." Now watch this video of Cam listening to Harris' words before walking off. |
Excitable Boy : 2:43 pm : link : reply
Even if he was handed to the Giants for nothing. Poor excuse for a professional football player . Thank God we have Eli Manning.
Eli will forever be special to me and I'll love him until death, but I'd trade him for Cam going forward into the future before I even finish this post.
So isn't that what good DCs do, take away one part of a good offense and make the other part beat them. So Denver shut down Stewart and thought their pass rush would be able to get to Cam...BFD. Football 101.
Seriously, I can't believe someone from the Panthers organization didn't tell him to uncover his head. It made him look petulant and closed off, just as much as his responses and actions did.
He had to coaches to the sides of him telling him to ditch the hoodie
Seriously, I can't believe someone from the Panthers organization didn't tell him to uncover his head. It made him look petulant and closed off, just as much as his responses and actions did.
Both Shula and Ken Dorsey were signaling him to take it off. He didn't...
That Time Peyton Manning Was A Bad Sport And Barely Anyone Cared - ( New Window )
It think tts refreshing to see some guys aren't robots.
I have no problem with him showing passion, in fact, I loved him giving footballs to young Carolina fans. The problem I have is if you want to show passion when you are winning, show humility when you lose, very simple.
That being said (as others have said), it's your job to deal with it. If you want to be a champion, behave like a champion. And a champion doesn't run from a difficult situation, he faces it head on.
He was very gracious yesterday and deserves credit for that. But he has not acted like that in the past when he lost in the playoffs
He was very gracious yesterday and deserves credit for that. But he has not acted like that in the past when he lost in the playoffs
Eli took shit for bad body language. How was Cams?
And stop listening to commentators. You saw the conference, what did you think?
Those things seemed to disappear while they were winning, but last night he reverted.
Me first, look at me, the wonderfulness of me.
The need to constantly supply this raging hemorrhoid an excuse for his actions is baffling to say the least.
I would not have been surprised if he puked on field like McNabb did once.
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I wouldn't want this guy on my team
Excitable Boy : 2:43 pm : link : reply
Even if he was handed to the Giants for nothing. Poor excuse for a professional football player . Thank God we have Eli Manning.
Eli will forever be special to me and I'll love him until death, but I'd trade him for Cam going forward into the future before I even finish this post.
Do you really think he could handle the NY Media?
I saw him talking about himself on TV a lot these two weeks, maybe he should have been watching more film as it looked like the Denver D did watching the game...
Nice to see arrogance humbled as they say, but I am not a hater. He is very talented and he will (probably) be a thorn in the sides of NFC contenders for awhile as much as I hate to say it.
Tom Brady receives the same treatment. LeBron James too. People only hate those worth hating
I am not a coward or a loser.
That being said (as others have said), it's your job to deal with it. If you want to be a champion, behave like a champion. And a champion doesn't run from a difficult situation, he faces it head on.
Pretty much sums it up.
The bottom line is that there isn't any journalistic value to interviewing a guy shortly after one of the most disappointing moments in his life other than to record a reaction precisely such as this one. I doubt anyone here believes that the press conference for Cam would have gone the same way had it occurred 11:00am today as opposed to 11:00pm last night - but of course the sober, more measured next-day reaction from the players isn't in demand these days.
That being said, Cam clearly could have and should have handled that much better, but a majority of the criticism of him for this press conference is way over the top.
It think tts refreshing to see some guys aren't robots.
The guy is pissed he lost. Sulk or not, find me a good loser and you might find somebody who knows nothing about winning.
Well, except for two things:
1. Sportswriters did take Peyton to task - it was very well covered all over the Internet, with a split between 'emotional Peyton Manning' and 'poor sport'. He addressed it during his post-game press conference, something Cam didn't bother to do.
2. When you have to seek out something Bill Romanowski says to make your point, you've probably stopped making sense a long time ago.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Peyton-Manning-storms-off-Super-Bowl-field-Is-h?urn=nfl,218314 - ( New Window )
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left the game with time remaining. He didn't congratulate or shake hands with Drew Brees or any of the opposing players. Sports writers didn't call him out for his unsportsmanlike conduct. Instead, they identified with him. Cam Newton didn't get such treatment. What Cam Newton did pales in comparison to what Manning did, but Cam is the one who was subjected to racists Tweets from the likes of Bill Romanowski and Glen Beck. Carry on.
Well, except for two things:
1. Sportswriters did take Peyton to task - it was very well covered all over the Internet, with a split between 'emotional Peyton Manning' and 'poor sport'. He addressed it during his post-game press conference, something Cam didn't bother to do.
2. When you have to seek out something Bill Romanowski says to make your point, you've probably stopped making sense a long time ago. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Peyton-Manning-storms-off-Super-Bowl-field-Is-h?urn=nfl,218314 - ( New Window )
Peyton Manning didn't face half the vitriol that Cam is being subject to. Case in point, you state that the coverage on Peyton was half and half between supportive and critical. That's way better than what Cam is facing. He is getting skewed for behavior that is far less offensive than what some of his peers got away with. There is definitely a double standard. And no, we can't overlook what Bill Romanowski said because it speaks of a narrative that is bigger than Cam Newton.
Cam coming off as a spoiled loser/baby and still having racial factors play into the over the top criticism of him are NOT even CLOSE to mutually exclusive things.
OBJ has shown up the opposing team far, far, far, far, far, far, worse than Cam EVER has, yet nobody seems to give 1/10th of a shit, either on this site or a national level.
Brett Favre was just "a kid having fun out there" - which is exactly what Cam looks like, since he doesn't really show up his opponents - and while Cam may have a little more swagger or come off as more cocky, I do think the fact that one seems to celebrate in a more urban/streetball fashion plays a large part in why so many people seem to despise him.
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and some of his actions seem to suggest him to be a poor loser. However, the disgust directed towards him is unbelievable.
Tom Brady receives the same treatment. LeBron James too. People only hate those worth hating
This is a prime example. Cam came off as a baby. How is he: a) a coward, b) a piece of shit, or c) a loser (15-1?).
David Diehl drunk driving around was far worse than anything Cam has ever done.
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left the game with time remaining. He didn't congratulate or shake hands with Drew Brees or any of the opposing players. Sports writers didn't call him out for his unsportsmanlike conduct. Instead, they identified with him. Cam Newton didn't get such treatment. What Cam Newton did pales in comparison to what Manning did, but Cam is the one who was subjected to racists Tweets from the likes of Bill Romanowski and Glen Beck. Carry on.
Well, except for two things:
1. Sportswriters did take Peyton to task - it was very well covered all over the Internet, with a split between 'emotional Peyton Manning' and 'poor sport'. He addressed it during his post-game press conference, something Cam didn't bother to do.
2. When you have to seek out something Bill Romanowski says to make your point, you've probably stopped making sense a long time ago. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Peyton-Manning-storms-off-Super-Bowl-field-Is-h?urn=nfl,218314 - ( New Window )
Peyton Manning didn't face half the vitriol that Cam is being subject to. Case in point, you state that the coverage on Peyton was half and half between supportive and critical. That's way better than what Cam is facing. He is getting skewed for behavior that is far less offensive than what some of his peers got away with. There is definitely a double standard. And no, we can't overlook what Bill Romanowski said because it speaks of a narrative that is bigger than Cam Newton.
Peyton Manning didn't face half the vitriol because what Peyton Manning did wasn't half as bad.
Cam coming off as a spoiled loser/baby and still having racial factors play into the over the top criticism of him are NOT even CLOSE to mutually exclusive things.
OBJ has shown up the opposing team far, far, far, far, far, far, worse than Cam EVER has, yet nobody seems to give 1/10th of a shit, either on this site or a national level.
Brett Favre was just "a kid having fun out there" - which is exactly what Cam looks like, since he doesn't really show up his opponents - and while Cam may have a little more swagger or come off as more cocky, I do think the fact that one seems to celebrate in a more urban/streetball fashion plays a large part in why so many people seem to despise him.
You are aware that OBJ is also black right?
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In comment 12807108 compton said:
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left the game with time remaining. He didn't congratulate or shake hands with Drew Brees or any of the opposing players. Sports writers didn't call him out for his unsportsmanlike conduct. Instead, they identified with him. Cam Newton didn't get such treatment. What Cam Newton did pales in comparison to what Manning did, but Cam is the one who was subjected to racists Tweets from the likes of Bill Romanowski and Glen Beck. Carry on.
Well, except for two things:
1. Sportswriters did take Peyton to task - it was very well covered all over the Internet, with a split between 'emotional Peyton Manning' and 'poor sport'. He addressed it during his post-game press conference, something Cam didn't bother to do.
2. When you have to seek out something Bill Romanowski says to make your point, you've probably stopped making sense a long time ago. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Peyton-Manning-storms-off-Super-Bowl-field-Is-h?urn=nfl,218314 - ( New Window )
Peyton Manning didn't face half the vitriol that Cam is being subject to. Case in point, you state that the coverage on Peyton was half and half between supportive and critical. That's way better than what Cam is facing. He is getting skewed for behavior that is far less offensive than what some of his peers got away with. There is definitely a double standard. And no, we can't overlook what Bill Romanowski said because it speaks of a narrative that is bigger than Cam Newton.
You're right, its not because he's an arrogant petulant twat with an extended history of being an arrogant petulant twat. It's because he's black.
Can we move the fuck on already?
That's a black and white and idiotic way to look at it. I think that people hate him and are so bothered by the dancing and "lack of class", cockiness (which is a valid criticism but ties directly to "swag"), and specific end zone dances (e.g. the dab) because it's just straight up streetball. I think that's what subconciously pisses people off.
That's why at no point have I EVER boiled it down to something as similar to skin color. But I do think it's tied to an urban culture primarily made up of black people that a lot of America doesn't like.
OBJ doesn't really exude that the way Cam does, even though he's shown up opponents far more than Cam has.
This doesn't mean that if you dislike Cam you're a racist, and this doesn't mean that every single person who dislikes him hates him for that reason. But it's one of the only plausible scenarios I can see for the over the top vitriol against him.
His statement that people dislike him because he's a black QB that makes people uncomfortable was just as simplistic as the people trying to crucify him as a race-baiter. But I do think that he has one part right- he makes people uncomfortable, and repping urban dances from the streets of Atlanta probably play into that to some degree, and to certain people, to a large degree.
I've been pretty critical of how much of a bitch he was at the press conference throughout today. But people acting like there is absolutely zero components of this that have something to do with his race or how he acts in conjunction with race are wrong, IMO. This isn't a reflection on each individual person, but there are a LOT of shitty people out there.
That's why the race baiter comments are so dumb - Cam is speaking from what he perceives, and he's most likely right to SOME degree.
(i also think him being a QB players into this as well, to a large degree).
With that said, there are things that he does that deserves criticism. Not diving for the fumble and staring at it reminded me of the catatonic Lebron James that showed up to lose against the Mavs in the Finals. He's a dynamic talent, but a bit of a front runner. He needs to show more maturity in dealing with adversity.
The rest of your argument is valid, I just don't think that is an accurate statement.