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NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 2:46 pm
Win tonight, please?
The Devils are playing good hockey...  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 2:49 pm : link
...and have beaten the Rangers this season. I hope they focus on the Devils and not worry about Wayne Simmonds. Some guys need to step up in McDonagh's absence. The Rangers play the Flyers this weekend and then they can worry about "handling" that.
LGD  
Sec 103 : 2/8/2016 3:09 pm : link
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at least McIlrath will play  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 3:11 pm : link
He'll get buried on the third pair as usual, but it's better than nothing.

Can't wait for the wacky hijinks sure to come from the inevitable Staal-Girardi pairing!
playing without arguably your best forward  
MetsAreBack : 2/8/2016 3:13 pm : link
and now our best Dman... with your 2nd best Dman playing through a fractured thumb.... any points we can get in the meanwhile are huge and welcome.

Gotta get healthy.
Complete joke  
Kyle in NY : 2/8/2016 3:25 pm : link
that Simmonds gets no suspension. And now who knows how long Mac is out?? And Simmonds had the balls to actually insinuate in the moment that Mac was faking it.
Would really like to see them  
Kyle in NY : 2/8/2016 3:29 pm : link
lean heavily on Yandle here
RE: Complete joke  
jv : 2/8/2016 3:30 pm : link
In comment 12806628 Kyle in NY said:
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that Simmonds gets no suspension. And now who knows how long Mac is out?? And Simmonds had the balls to actually insinuate in the moment that Mac was faking it.


Flyers broadcast is even worse...
https://youtu.be/eC9lhzwHK3w
Byfuglien deal is fucking huge  
jv : 2/8/2016 3:38 pm : link
$7.6M AAV over 5 years. He's not worth those numbers to me. I'd have to think Yandle is worth more than that and if that's the case then we're not paying it.
I don't know who to root against :(  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/8/2016 3:50 pm : link
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With him off the market I think Yandle's trade value goes up.  
BrettNYG10 : 2/8/2016 4:02 pm : link
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RE: I don't know who to root against :(  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 4:06 pm : link
In comment 12806676 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Tough spot for you, eh Mike? I think you have to pull for the Debbies in this one. This is kind of like Mets/Red Sox-ish for you.
RE: With him off the market I think Yandle's trade value goes up.  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 4:25 pm : link
In comment 12806697 BrettNYG10 said:
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We can only hope, because if he's getting the kind of deal Byfuglien got then he's long gone.
Yandle is getting at least 7 & NTC/NMC  
Deej : 2/8/2016 4:32 pm : link
If the plan is to get Yandle back for Staal money, good fucking luck. Now you can decide to make a run of this year so keep him, but it should be eyes wide open.
there is no run to be made this year  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 4:34 pm : link
The team simply isn't good enough.
RE: there is no run to be made this year  
Kyle in NY : 2/8/2016 4:38 pm : link
In comment 12806758 Greg from LI said:
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The team simply isn't good enough.


ridiculous to say at this point
RE: there is no run to be made this year  
Deej : 2/8/2016 4:39 pm : link
In comment 12806758 Greg from LI said:
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The team simply isn't good enough.


Eh, there is only one consistently good East team right now. That said, I'd trade Yandle because we dont maximize his value, and because I think Skjei would actually do a lot for this team. Different skills, but Skjei-Klein would likely be our #2 pair notwithstanding labels. And bust his cherry for next year.
RE: there is no run to be made this year  
BrettNYG10 : 2/8/2016 4:40 pm : link
In comment 12806758 Greg from LI said:
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The team simply isn't good enough.


*puts entire life savings on the Rangers*
Why is it ridiculous to say?  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 4:42 pm : link
What does this team do really well? Can you pick something out? Because I can't. Their coach refuses to play the best possible lineups. They have two defensemen in the top 4 who are utterly useless. They take a lot of stupid penalties. Their PP has been a joke for many years, and now the PK sucks too. The 4th line is atrocious. Even the franchise goalie has been struggling.
from your lips to Vigneault's ears, Deej  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 4:43 pm : link
He doesn't play his best 6 defensemen this year, so I don't know why next year would be any different.
RE: from your lips to Vigneault's ears, Deej  
Deej : 2/8/2016 4:49 pm : link
In comment 12806788 Greg from LI said:
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He doesn't play his best 6 defensemen this year, so I don't know why next year would be any different.


It's a fair point. But Im kind of assuming that Boyle and Yandle are gone and not replaced by vets. A Raph Diaz type will be brought in. McIlrath and Skjei wont have to compete with unaccountable big name vets. Also hoping under that scenario that a 2nd year Gorton is more assertive and could take away marginal roster player toys that AV is playing with too much. I think AV made Gorton look bad this year by burying Etem (who btw is now up to 14-15 mpg, though not points production to speak of).
They should of course listen to all offers for Yandle  
MetsAreBack : 2/8/2016 5:13 pm : link
but unless someone blows us away with an offer, i wouldnt move him. Put another way - getting a mid 20s overall pick back for Yandle and essentially punting this season doesnt do much for us. You're talking about maybe a useful 3rd line player in a few years - that's not enough return.

Now if something can be worked out where Yandle gets moved for Shattenkirk without giving up too much on top of that... let's talk (though I fear that deal would be something like Yandle + McIlraith for KS since we'd have 5 right-handed D)

Really hoping Florida looks to add a veteran defenseman (note: they need one) and payroll now that they're selling out weekend games - get Girardi or Staal to waive their NMC to raise a family in state income-free South Florida!!
It's a shame the Rangers are in this situation...  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 5:25 pm : link
...it would be nice to keep Yandle but they made their commitments to Staal and Girardi. Maybe multiple trades are in the mix. It depends on how you look at 2013 but did they "sell" Gaborik (getting Brassard, Dorsett, and John Moore) along with the acquiring Ryane Clowe?

If they can move Yandle (even though he is the best D the Rnagers have) for younger players, with a parallel deal to get something back, it doesn't set the team back. The window is closing but a smart trade can slow the closing process or if Gorton is a shrewed GM, transition to the next core while remaining competitive.
holy moly  
SethFromAstoria : 2/8/2016 6:06 pm : link
no one knows what we can or will do re: Yandle, plus is a silly way to look at the situation..."oh these two particular people are causing problems". This guy would cost a lot no matter what. It's a question of whether you want to do a deal like that in general. Not just for Yandle.

Anyway....

Was there an actual explanation re Simmonds? I am saying this completely lacking sarcasm: Why don't we just do exactly what has been done to us if its legal. By not suspending this asshole you are simply saying its not illegal even though it's a major, and a match misconduct ejection penalty. So if that's not suspendable why don't we just throw cheapshots whenever we feel like it? Who can say its illegal when its not?
The rangers have not done  
bigbluehoya : 2/8/2016 6:16 pm : link
Well when taking a spin on the NHL Wheel of Justice.

So I'll pass on the copycat approach.
BTW  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 6:45 pm : link
The game is on NHL Network if you don't get MSG.
Smart hockey, Hayes.  
BrettNYG10 : 2/8/2016 7:13 pm : link
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What did hayes do?  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 7:14 pm : link
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RE: Smart hockey, Hayes.  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 7:14 pm : link
In comment 12806932 BrettNYG10 said:
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Seriously, wtf was he thinking?
RE: What did hayes do?  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12806933 Greg from LI said:
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Got a 10-minute misconduct for flipping a piece of broken stick into the crowd.
Aha  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 7:16 pm : link
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Tyler kennedy  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 7:32 pm : link
Is one of the ugliest people on the planet.
Rangers dominating play  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 7:36 pm : link
But still scoreless.
Completely out played  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 7:42 pm : link
them but just can't solve Schneider.
RE: Tyler kennedy  
Anakim : 2/8/2016 7:58 pm : link
In comment 12806943 B in ALB said:
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Is one of the ugliest people on the planet.


Manbearpig?
KK!!!!  
Deej : 2/8/2016 8:08 pm : link
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Nice pass by Zuccie ....  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 8:08 pm : link
as usual.
Kreider got that going!!!  
Route 9 : 2/8/2016 8:08 pm : link
1'0!!!
That little #23 Farnham or whatever  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 8:13 pm : link
is a little toilet bug. He loves skating thru the crease and giving Henrik a little slash. I hope someone puts him thru the fuckin boards. Fantasy Camp for this idiot.
RE: That little #23 Farnham or whatever  
bigbluehoya : 2/8/2016 8:15 pm : link
In comment 12806972 B in ALB said:
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is a little toilet bug. He loves skating thru the crease and giving Henrik a little slash. I hope someone puts him thru the fuckin boards. Fantasy Camp for this idiot.


Very punchable face
Naturally Brassard  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 8:20 pm : link
had to trip himself and give up the puck on the PP with 2 Devils defenders without sticks. Don't know that I've ever seen that before.
PP looking better  
Giants in 07 : 2/8/2016 8:20 pm : link
Still too much passing though
Good looking PP  
Deej : 2/8/2016 8:21 pm : link
some good shots there.
Huge save by Henrik  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 8:35 pm : link
to preserve the lead.
Trivia?  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 8:39 pm : link
Leetch, greschner, and James Patrick?
Trivia answer....Leetch, Greschner, Patrick  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 8:40 pm : link
Maybe?
Too many passes  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 8:41 pm : link
Not enough shots.
Hah  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 8:41 pm : link
I like the way you think, Drew
Greg  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 8:43 pm : link
You're obviously a great mind as they think alike : )
J T Miller  
Deej : 2/8/2016 9:05 pm : link
!!
JT Miller is just breaking out  
Essex : 2/8/2016 9:05 pm : link
!!!!!
JT continues  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 9:05 pm : link
his red hot streak!
What a lightning quick release  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 9:06 pm : link
That was great.
Now please ...  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 9:06 pm : link
no let downs in the next few minutes.
Don't pack it in  
bigbluehoya : 2/8/2016 9:08 pm : link
This devils team can't generate any offense if you don't lay down and let them
Girardi has been very good tonight. I've been pleasantly surprised.  
Anakim : 2/8/2016 9:13 pm : link
I guess McD was holding him back :P
Great minds  
Deej : 2/8/2016 9:17 pm : link
huh?
Greg  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 9:17 pm : link
....almost. Jim Nillson instead of Greschner
RE: Great minds  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12807029 Deej said:
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huh?


Deej where you bro? You didn't want to throw marek Malik in there?
The question reminded me to  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 9:21 pm : link
look up something about Sergei Zubov.

Dude had 77 assists in 93-94. 89 points total. What a fuckin season!
RE: The question reminded me to  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 9:22 pm : link
In comment 12807032 B in ALB said:
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look up something about Sergei Zubov.

Dude had 77 assists in 93-94. 89 points total. What a fuckin season!


Didn't he also spend some time in the minors that season as well as a healthy scratch that season?
Yeah.  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 9:25 pm : link
He played 78 games for the Rangers in the regular season. Add in. The playoffs and he had 91 total assists. That's rarified air for a defenseman.

RE: RE: Great minds  
Deej : 2/8/2016 9:28 pm : link
In comment 12807031 Drewcon40 said:
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huh?



Deej where you bro? You didn't want to throw marek Malik in there?


I know what I know. Pre-1990s Rangers history I dont know.
And they give up a shorty  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 9:31 pm : link
There goes the shutout. Damn.
Ahh, what is that shit.  
Mad Mike : 2/8/2016 9:31 pm : link
C'mon guys, this shouldn't be that complicated.
WHAT A FUCKING  
Deej : 2/8/2016 9:31 pm : link
EMBARRASSMENT. Fucking Yandle.
that was awesome  
GMenLTS : 2/8/2016 9:32 pm : link
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That's a really stupid  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 9:32 pm : link
needless pass by Yandle.
Of course...  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 9:32 pm : link
...why wouldn't they score there?
Bahahahaha  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 9:32 pm : link
Only the Rangers can give up a shorty with less than three minutes to make the game interesting
Hate to say it  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 9:32 pm : link
but had a feeling ...

Yandle does make some risky passes and in that spot there was absolutely no need for it.
How awful...how stupid a pass!  
yatqb : 2/8/2016 9:32 pm : link
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holy fucking shit they almost tied it up so fast  
GMenLTS : 2/8/2016 9:32 pm : link
fucking hank
that pad save by hank was ridiculous  
GMenLTS : 2/8/2016 9:33 pm : link
motherfucker
I have no idea what Yandle was trying to accomplish there  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 9:34 pm : link
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The Rangers  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 9:34 pm : link
do realize they have an extra skater, right? This is total panic on their part.
And they ice the puck  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 9:35 pm : link
Worst power play in the history of the world.
Such a joke  
MetsAreBack : 2/8/2016 9:35 pm : link
Just can't get comfortable with this fucking team this year
Whew  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 9:37 pm : link
Dodged a bullet there.
dammit  
GMenLTS : 2/8/2016 9:37 pm : link
that would have been fun
Who was the defender that threw that lazy fucking pass  
MetsAreBack : 2/8/2016 9:37 pm : link
At the blue line that nj picked off? He should sit next game if we have any extra bodies. Disgraceful
Shouldn't have been that difficult  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 9:38 pm : link
A dominant performance leads to a nail biter. 2015 NY Rangers.
Aside from that stupid play by Yandle, this was the best game  
yatqb : 2/8/2016 9:38 pm : link
the Rangers have played in a while. Really kept possession and pressure on, and played well defensively.
They certainly made that needlessly difficult  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 9:38 pm : link
This team, man, this fucking team. Even when they win they have to make everything a chore.
RE: Who was the defender that threw that lazy fucking pass  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 9:38 pm : link
In comment 12807062 MetsAreBack said:
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At the blue line that nj picked off? He should sit next game if we have any extra bodies. Disgraceful


It was everyone's hero Yandle.
To throw a shutout  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 9:39 pm : link
in the trash like that is a travesty.
No it wasn't  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 9:40 pm : link
It was Stepan
No not their goal B  
MetsAreBack : 2/8/2016 9:41 pm : link
I'm talking about the pass with 20 seconds left after we had possession of the puck and could have walked it out of the zone and probably had a pretty easy EN. Instead lazy fucking pass treating the puck like a fucking grenade. Pathetic.
Oh that one. Sorry.  
B in ALB : 2/8/2016 9:42 pm : link
He was in panic mode there. Just get the fuckin puck out.
Aside from that clusterfuck in the last 2:30  
NYerInMA : 2/8/2016 9:44 pm : link
The Rangers dominated this game. Of course, we all know that consistency has been elusive, and Pittsburgh is up next. Buckle up!
And on their goal  
MetsAreBack : 2/8/2016 9:45 pm : link
Why is yandle one of just two LD on our roster ... Manning RD on the power play? Awful awful play but partly caused by having to go backhand on a simple redirect up the boards
Yep, Stepan could have simply skated that out  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 9:45 pm : link
No one in front of him. What the hell has happened to that guy?
Buncha whiners!  
Kyle in NY : 2/8/2016 9:50 pm : link
Nice win, a bad play by Yandle who otherwise has been excellent. Shouldn't overshadow what was a really solid effort against a good team and great goalie.
Watching highlights on NHLN  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2016 9:52 pm : link
And I feel violently ill every time I see Hags in that ugly ass black and gold uniform. It's a disgrace.
RE: Watching highlights on NHLN  
Kyle in NY : 2/8/2016 9:57 pm : link
In comment 12807085 Greg from LI said:
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And I feel violently ill every time I see Hags in that ugly ass black and gold uniform. It's a disgrace.


I absolutely hate it. It's not right. He's been good for them too
Back to the McD concussion ...  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 10:03 pm : link
how in the hell can the league rule the way they did? Are they saying Simmonds was justified somehow and it's ok to sucker punch a player in the jaw potentially fucking his career up?! This is a head injury incurred not in the context of play rather it was an unmitigated punk fucking move by a guy who is known for playing on the edge. It's a fucking injustice beyond belief!
RE: Back to the McD concussion ...  
Drewcon40 : 2/8/2016 10:40 pm : link
In comment 12807096 Stufftherun said:
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how in the hell can the league rule the way they did? Are they saying Simmonds was justified somehow and it's ok to sucker punch a player in the jaw potentially fucking his career up?! This is a head injury incurred not in the context of play rather it was an unmitigated punk fucking move by a guy who is known for playing on the edge. It's a fucking injustice beyond belief!


Stufftherun - I share your frustration but the Rangers host the Flyers on Sunday. Let's see what kind of team the Rangers have.
RE: RE: Back to the McD concussion ...  
Stufftherun : 2/8/2016 11:22 pm : link
In comment 12807106 Drewcon40 said:
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In comment 12807096 Stufftherun said:


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how in the hell can the league rule the way they did? Are they saying Simmonds was justified somehow and it's ok to sucker punch a player in the jaw potentially fucking his career up?! This is a head injury incurred not in the context of play rather it was an unmitigated punk fucking move by a guy who is known for playing on the edge. It's a fucking injustice beyond belief!



Stufftherun - I share your frustration but the Rangers host the Flyers on Sunday. Let's see what kind of team the Rangers have.


Drew - Regardless of who's on the ice for the blueshirts you can be rest assured the league will put the on ice officials on high alert and they'll do everything they can to keep things from getting out of control. I'd love to see The Rath put Simmonds in the hospital but that doesn't help McD recover from a concussion and it doesn't answer the question as to why the league took no action.
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BrettNYG10 : 2/9/2016 7:51 am : link
It's amazing how good Lundqvist is and how rarely he shuts teams out.

I feel like there have been 10-15 games this year where the only goals against were on special teams.
RE: .....  
Deej : 2/9/2016 8:31 am : link
In comment 12807211 BrettNYG10 said:
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It's amazing how good Lundqvist is and how rarely he shuts teams out.

I feel like there have been 10-15 games this year where the only goals against were on special teams.


I feel like the late goal to breakup a shut out has been a staple of his career. I wonder whether other great goalies are the same, because of the late onslaught from teams that are trailing.
Wow big time trade just dropped  
jv : 2/9/2016 11:18 am : link
Toronto Gets:
Cowen
Greening
Michalek
Lindberg
2nd Rounder 2017

Ottawa Gets:
Phaneuf
Frattin
Bailey
Rupert
Donaghey
Great deal for Toronto  
NYerInMA : 2/9/2016 11:29 am : link
Not sure about Ottawa's end. Gives me hope that the Rangers will be able to dump Girardi and/or Staal if they choose to do so.
Still waiting for Krieder and Stephan...  
BamaBlue : 2/9/2016 1:18 pm : link
to get their act together. Zuc, Miller and Brassard have been pulling the sled. Somebody else needs to step-up. Maybe Nash will get some fire before he crashes and burns in the playoffs...
Saw this in the BSB comments  
Greg from LI : 2/9/2016 2:53 pm : link
Dan Girardi, folks!
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Saw this in the BSB comments  
Giants in 07 : 2/9/2016 3:07 pm : link
In comment 12808058 Greg from LI said:
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Dan Girardi, folks! Link - ( New Window )


Haha that's wonderful
and he does that a dozen times in an average game  
Greg from LI : 2/9/2016 3:12 pm : link
I really get no joy out of piling on the guy because he's had a very good career for them, particularly for an undrafted guy, but he's just completely cratered since the 2014 playoffs.
Same. Great career and a great Ranger  
Giants in 07 : 2/9/2016 3:20 pm : link
But at this point, sadly nothing but a liability.

Played well last night though. And there's no reason why he can't continue to play well..with limited minutes on the third pairing.
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BrettNYG10 : 2/9/2016 3:26 pm : link
Those type of plays kill me. It's a total confidence and even coaching thing. He didn't do that with this frequency in prior years. It's just stupid hockey - not a physical limitation.
cue a 3 paragraph tirade  
MetsAreBack : 2/9/2016 3:31 pm : link
about how he plays hurt (never mind that no one but AV wanted him trying to play hurt with more talented players in the press box)

(note: at this moment with McD out and lack of cap space its a good thing though)

And in fairness to that GIF above, most of our guys treat the puck like a fucking grenade this year. Stepan committed an act just as pitiful last night to close out the game. Glass does it 5x per game. Staal has done it all year. Confidence or are these guys just not as hard working as they used to be?

Regardless - blame a young kid for it.
You forgot the paragraph about  
Deej : 2/9/2016 3:45 pm : link
SURELY there must be other people who are playing poorly, and the struggles cant be all Girardi's fault. Therefore, by implication, not worth talking about.
Simmonds of course  
NYerInMA : 2/9/2016 4:05 pm : link
saying that he didn't mean to hurt McDonagh and that he feels bad about it. Why else would you sucker punch someone if not to injure? What a tool.
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