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NFT: Knicks Chat 2/9: The Kurt Rambis Era begins!

bceagle05 : 2/9/2016 11:28 am
Two of our favorite douchebags are making some headlines: Stephen A. is reporting that Jeanie Buss is cleaning house in LA at the end of the year to pave the way for Phil's return, and Isola is reporting that Phil has an opt out in his contract at the end of this season, so he can leave us high and dry without compensation. Consider the sources, but that is an unsettling thought given that Dolan stooges like Mills and Houston would likely take over.

On a more positive note, Woj is reporting that the Knicks at least have Westbrook's attention, and Hahn always drops Westbrook's name as a future Knick, so hopefully those two have some legit sources on that front. Westbrook's always been the guy I've had my eye on, more so than even Durant.

Otherwise, we'll see if the tailspin continues tonight against Washington, the final game before the long break. Any thoughts on what Rambis might do to change things up? Gallo starting over Calderon? Tighter rotation? More O'Quinn? Less Sasha and Lou?
Why would  
Giantology : 2/9/2016 11:32 am : link
Westbrook want to come here? This place is a shit show.
Would be nice to see KOQ  
Giantology : 2/9/2016 11:33 am : link
get more minutes for sure
A shit show? Let's calm down a bit with that.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/9/2016 11:36 am : link
Plug in a starting caliber NBA point guard and they're unquestionably one of the top 8 seeds in the East. Plug in someone of Westbrook's caliber with some more experience/growth from KP, this is a pretty damn good team.
Of the things I remember  
Aspano! : 2/9/2016 11:39 am : link
from Rambis taking over for Fisher when he was thrown out in the Lakers game (I believe?), was that he immediately sat Sasha. Aside from that, I don't remember any particular moves he made during that game.

...which is probably a good thing.
I'd  
DanMetroMan : 2/9/2016 11:40 am : link
like to see more Grant and KOQ. Less Calderon.
there's got  
Enzo : 2/9/2016 11:41 am : link
to be 20 guys in the D league better than Sasha. Him knowing the triangle is not enough of a reason to keep him around.
If Phil leaving means  
BIG FRED 1973 : 2/9/2016 11:47 am : link
we get Thibodeau iam all for it ,i want no part of brain shaw
Thibs is an excellent coach, but I can't get over the fact that  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/9/2016 11:51 am : link
Rose, Noah, and Deng will have been run into the ground by the age of 30.
RE: there's got  
Tesla : 2/9/2016 11:53 am : link
In comment 12807685 Enzo said:
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to be 20 guys in the D league better than Sasha. Him knowing the triangle is not enough of a reason to keep him around.


Seriously. Why not give those minutes to a young guy with some potential to have a future in the league. Every singe minute given to Sasha V. and Sweet Lou are wasted minutes.
Do  
DanMetroMan : 2/9/2016 11:54 am : link
it up!
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I was disappointed that Phil doubled down on the triangle yesterday.  
bceagle05 : 2/9/2016 12:16 pm : link
I was hoping to hear him say he'd be a little more flexible going forward. Thibodeau is by far the best candidate, but that rules him out completely. There will be a bidding war for Walton's services, so he'll have no need to cave into Phil's demands like Fisher did. The Cavs already made the Ty Lue move, so that leaves us with guys like Shaw and Rambis. Just brutal. Additionally, if Phil plans on bailing within the next year, I sure hope he doesn't saddle us with a five-year contract for a shitty triangle coach while he hops a flight back to LA. If he's not gonna work with the new coach for at least two years, then just pick the best guy for the sake of the franchise.
Let's not act like the Knicks got a pool of young guys with NBA talent  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/9/2016 12:21 pm : link
they can choose to bring up from the D League. They don't.
Bachinski  
DanMetroMan : 2/9/2016 12:23 pm : link
looks like an NBA player to me from what little I have seen. Call him up! woooooooo
KOQ  
Deej : 2/9/2016 12:24 pm : link
PER of 17 and per 36 minute rates of 14.4 points, 11.7 rebounds, 3.6 assists, 2.1 blocks, 1.2 steals. Numbers suggestive of borderline stardom.

And yet whenever I see him I get frustrated. He fails my eye test. Notably, 3.4 TOs and 5.3 assists. But even more than that, he looks like a 35 year old out there to me. Not moving, reaching. Making stupid passes. Im just saying, I havent been pining for more KOQ run.

But if the season is lost, and IMO it essentially is (1-2% to make playoffs?), why NOT give him run? We know what Thomas and Williams are -- pending free agents (ETO for LT).
How about Walton convincing Phil  
Deej : 2/9/2016 12:31 pm : link
that the structure concepts and movement of the triangle make total sense, but you need to resize it for the 2016 game where the league overall is a much better shot from distance? Fit a system that makes sense to the available talent. The year the Bulls won 72, the league tried 1316 3 pointers. Thru about 52 games per team, the league has already tried 1237 3s, on pace for ~2000. Game has changed, skills have changed, and the system needs to adapt.
The metrics may like him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/9/2016 12:31 pm : link
but I think he makes as many goofball plays as good ones. He looks barely athletic enough to be out there.
RE: How about Walton convincing Phil  
bceagle05 : 2/9/2016 12:42 pm : link
In comment 12807793 Deej said:
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that the structure concepts and movement of the triangle make total sense, but you need to resize it for the 2016 game where the league overall is a much better shot from distance? Fit a system that makes sense to the available talent. The year the Bulls won 72, the league tried 1316 3 pointers. Thru about 52 games per team, the league has already tried 1237 3s, on pace for ~2000. Game has changed, skills have changed, and the system needs to adapt.


From your lips to God's ears. I'd love to know what offense Kerr would've run if he had taken the job. I'm hoping Kerr made the same case you did and Phil was on board. I don't think we need to run the exact triangle offense Tex Winter drew up in his spiral notebook 50 years ago.
Why not use the 2009-10  
Semipro Lineman : 2/9/2016 1:49 pm : link
LA Lakers for your example? Being that it was only six years ago that a team using the triangle offense won a championship. By the way, that season the average 3pt attempts per team were 1487 with the Lakers shooting 1562 attempts. Seems to me that the offense evolved to take advantage of the trend when it had more capable players.
So while the Knicks are currently shooting about 7% less threes than league average, who do you suggest should be shooting more from behind the arc?
Also you can look at someone like the Spurs  
Aspano! : 2/9/2016 1:59 pm : link
Who play at one of the slowest paces in the league, and shoot the 5th lowest number of three pointers.

The Triangle is meant to get open shots from everywhere, not just in the midrange. Where those shots come from will depend on the strengths of the lineup.
Jimmy  
DanMetroMan : 2/9/2016 2:02 pm : link
Butler out 2-4 weeks
Butler is  
Semipro Lineman : 2/9/2016 2:09 pm : link
jealous of all the attention Rose's comeback attempts get so he wants one of his own
Windhorst  
DanMetroMan : 2/9/2016 2:16 pm : link
The Indiana Pacers have pursued a trade for Jeff Teague, offering George Hill in a possible scenario.
RE: Why not use the 2009-10  
Deej : 2/9/2016 2:21 pm : link
In comment 12807919 Semipro Lineman said:
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LA Lakers for your example? Being that it was only six years ago that a team using the triangle offense won a championship. By the way, that season the average 3pt attempts per team were 1487 with the Lakers shooting 1562 attempts. Seems to me that the offense evolved to take advantage of the trend when it had more capable players.
So while the Knicks are currently shooting about 7% less threes than league average, who do you suggest should be shooting more from behind the arc?


Fair point. The counter is Phil's seeming pooh poohing of 3rd point oriented offenses during the playoffs.

Knicks actually have some decent 3 point shooters. Their overall 3P% is dragged down by guys like Sasha and DWill (and somewhat Melo) taking too many. Indeed, take away DWill and Jerian and they're ~10th overall in 3P%.
RE: Windhorst  
Deej : 2/9/2016 2:23 pm : link
In comment 12807976 DanMetroMan said:
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The Indiana Pacers have pursued a trade for Jeff Teague, offering George Hill in a possible scenario.


I thought Atl's interest was in opening up the PG spot for Schroeder (SP?). How does trading for Hill alter that? Hill is a pure 1, and a starter.
RE: RE: Windhorst  
giantsfan44ab : 2/9/2016 2:34 pm : link
In comment 12808001 Deej said:
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The Indiana Pacers have pursued a trade for Jeff Teague, offering George Hill in a possible scenario.



I thought Atl's interest was in opening up the PG spot for Schroeder (SP?). How does trading for Hill alter that? Hill is a pure 1, and a starter.


Hill has been more of a 2 with Ellis. He is more than capable of guarding 2's despite his size. Atlanta has been looking to trade Korver so i guess they are looking for a Schroder-Hill backcourt with Baze at the 3.
Is it a possibility that  
giantsfan44ab : 2/9/2016 2:36 pm : link
Chicago misses the playoffs? They have looked incompetent without Butler and Charlotte's been hovering around .500 for most of the season.
Cavs  
DanMetroMan : 2/9/2016 2:36 pm : link
"in" on Korver
Lebron's always had a fetish  
bceagle05 : 2/9/2016 2:40 pm : link
for washed-up three point shooters.
Forgot about the all star break  
giantsfan44ab : 2/9/2016 2:40 pm : link
that could potentially save them if its only a 2-3 weeks timetable. They do play the Hawks twice, raptors and cavs in the next 2 weeks so they could conceivably drop out for a bit. It looks like a top 4 seed might be out of the question for them though.
RE: RE: RE: Windhorst  
Deej : 2/9/2016 2:42 pm : link
In comment 12808026 giantsfan44ab said:
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Hill has been more of a 2 with Ellis. He is more than capable of guarding 2's despite his size. Atlanta has been looking to trade Korver so i guess they are looking for a Schroder-Hill backcourt with Baze at the 3.


Ok, thx.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Windhorst  
giantsfan44ab : 2/9/2016 2:45 pm : link
In comment 12808039 Deej said:
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Hill has been more of a 2 with Ellis. He is more than capable of guarding 2's despite his size. Atlanta has been looking to trade Korver so i guess they are looking for a Schroder-Hill backcourt with Baze at the 3.



Ok, thx.


Also, If i remember correctly, when Lance was there Hill took on more of an off guard role. He's always been more of a combo guard I guess. His shooting really helps him at the 2 spot.
I think he's a 1 even if they put him at 2  
Deej : 2/9/2016 2:49 pm : link
last year was his best, and he was a 1.
RE: I think he's a 1 even if they put him at 2  
giantsfan44ab : 2/9/2016 2:55 pm : link
In comment 12808051 Deej said:
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last year was his best, and he was a 1.


Last year was really the only year he played without PG. Every other year it seems that he took a backseat to another player at floor general duties.
He's probably best as a PG  
giantsfan44ab : 2/9/2016 2:56 pm : link
but most starting PGs today are more capable game managers than him, there aren't many teams right now where he would be the ball dominant guard.
RE: Why would  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2016 5:04 pm : link
In comment 12807659 Giantology said:
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Westbrook want to come here? This place is a shit show.


To play with Porzingas

Don't you keep up with BBI story lines?
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Deej : 2/9/2016 5:09 pm : link
In comment 12808247 Vanzetti said:
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Westbrook want to come here? This place is a shit show.



To play with Porzingas

Don't you keep up with BBI story lines?


Huh?
Firing Fisher doesn't make them a shit show.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/9/2016 5:16 pm : link
That's what everyone wanted two months ago, now it's a shit show?

They're performing pretty much as expected with a current lousy stretch. This was never going to be a playoff team. Just a better team than last year, and they could use that as a foundation to build off of. If you thought they were going to do any better than loiter around .500 you were being optimistic.
RE: Firing Fisher doesn't make them a shit show.  
EricNY33 : 2/9/2016 5:20 pm : link
In comment 12808263 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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That's what everyone wanted two months ago, now it's a shit show?

They're performing pretty much as expected with a current lousy stretch. This was never going to be a playoff team. Just a better team than last year, and they could use that as a foundation to build off of. If you thought they were going to do any better than loiter around .500 you were being optimistic.


Don't bother man. Some people don't get it.
No issue with firing Fisher, it had to be done at some point.  
bceagle05 : 2/9/2016 5:37 pm : link
If anything, it shows that Phil is willing to acknowledge a mistake, swallow his pride, and make the right move for the franchise. Hopefully the short-term effect is a hot streak that at least gets us back near .50o by season's end. It can only help in free agency.

I will have an issue, however, if this coaching search is limited to triangle cronies, particularly if Phil is bailing in a year or two. I'd rather he leave us Porzingis and Thibodeau when he rides off into the sunset.
RE: Lebron's always had a fetish  
Sgrcts : 2/9/2016 5:38 pm : link
In comment 12808035 bceagle05 said:
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for washed-up three point shooters.


Korver is washed up? That's news to me, him and the rest of the league.
RE: RE: Lebron's always had a fetish  
Enzo : 2/9/2016 7:18 pm : link
In comment 12808294 Sgrcts said:
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for washed-up three point shooters.



Korver is washed up? That's news to me, him and the rest of the league.

single digit PER
Look at the splits  
Sgrcts : 2/9/2016 7:23 pm : link
He was injured but has been turning it around big time.
the game starts at 8 tonight  
Del Shofner : 2/9/2016 7:26 pm : link
for some reason.
Off to their usual hot start...down 15-6.  
yatqb : 2/9/2016 8:20 pm : link
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Phil talks  
Deej : 2/9/2016 8:24 pm : link
- want team work oriented coach (not a comment on Fisher)

- KP was fatigued

- "Very slim chance" Knicks trade before deadline
Oh  
Deej : 2/9/2016 8:26 pm : link
asked about whether the next coach needs to run a triangle. Not clear if he was giving a yes or a no. Says you need a system to get into. Al thought he was saying yes, triangle. Me/Walt not so clear.
KP has been really cold of late.  
yatqb : 2/9/2016 8:29 pm : link
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Clyde says  
B in ALB : 2/9/2016 8:29 pm : link
That a wide open three for KP is not a good shot and it's not a shot they want him taking. Especially since he just shot two free throws (after missed shot and offensive rebound). Huh.

Yeah. I don't know. If KP is open he should shoot the Fucking ball.
Clyde argument made no sense  
Deej : 2/9/2016 8:36 pm : link
it's a bad shot because KP lacks confidence. So isnt any shot from KP therefore bad? Clyde has been really brutal. Like the end of Ralph Kiner's career.
KP should shoot whenever he is open  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2016 8:37 pm : link
The problem with KP right now is that if you pass him the ball and he does not shoot immediately, he fumbles the ball when he tries to dribble or pass. The other team is just swatting at the ball whenever KP has it and generating turnovers or breakdowns on offense.

Also, when he and Lopez are on he court at the same time, the offense is terrible. No movement.
RE: Clyde argument made no sense  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2016 8:38 pm : link
In comment 12808456 Deej said:
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it's a bad shot because KP lacks confidence. So isnt any shot from KP therefore bad? Clyde has been really brutal. Like the end of Ralph Kiner's career.


Isn't a good shot because he hesitated and was out of rhythm. It was a good look but not a good shot.
It was almost like Clyde  
B in ALB : 2/9/2016 8:39 pm : link
sort of paused after he said that nonsense like he was trying to figure out how to explain himself. Bizarre statements and claims galore with this guy. Time for him to quit and focus on his lounge or whatever.
Funny  
Deej : 2/9/2016 8:40 pm : link
was just thinking that Seraphin looks like he's in better shape, and Clyde mentions he's lost 20 lbs.
RE: Clyde argument made no sense  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 8:42 pm : link
In comment 12808456 Deej said:
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it's a bad shot because KP lacks confidence. So isnt any shot from KP therefore bad? Clyde has been really brutal. Like the end of Ralph Kiner's career.


Jackson made the point of saying KP has taken some shots which were bad even though he may have been open. Clyde is Jackson's old roommate and seems like they have remained close friends. I think he felt the need to point point out an example of what Jackson was talking about.
Porzingas is at his best when he is the primary scorer  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2016 8:43 pm : link
He can dominate with his size if he gets he ball in the middle. He can take it to he basket, post up with a hook or short jumper.

None of that happens when he plays with the starters. His offense with the starters is basically long-range jumpers and put backs. He should come off the bench with the second unit and then be on the floor at the end along with Galloway--with whom he plays much better than Calderon.
WTF with these 3s?  
Deej : 2/9/2016 8:57 pm : link
Crazy
These guys are 10/12 from 3  
B in ALB : 2/9/2016 8:58 pm : link
And only lead by 13. Second half will cool them off. Knicks just need to keep it close here.
Haha  
giantsfan44ab : 2/9/2016 9:00 pm : link
I think I'm the only one here who doesn't mind Clyde. Sure, he is aloof, but it's just kind of funny at some point. When I turn on league pass, my roommates (non from the east coast) get a big laugh from some of the shit he says.

Not sure how many of you have league pass, but there are some horrible, horrible announcers on many local broadcasts. It could be much worse. The Warriors stick out most to me, they are just two superfans who were given the reins of the commentary (at least one of them is, anyways). They reference to the team as "we" and argue about every little foul called against them. The Hornets, Pelicans, and Cavs also stick out to me as guys you want to argue with after some of the shit they say. I'd take Breen and Clyde over most of these local guys.
RE: These guys are 10/12 from 3  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 9:01 pm : link
In comment 12808474 B in ALB said:
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And only lead by 13. Second half will cool them off. Knicks just need to keep it close here.


Yeah they can't keep that pace. Just shooting the light out right now but they will hit a lull at some point.
KP  
Deej : 2/9/2016 9:31 pm : link
with authority!
Melo's 3 is broken  
Deej : 2/9/2016 9:32 pm : link
not even close, bad on the season. He's gotta stop launching so many.
KP dominating!  
bceagle05 : 2/9/2016 9:37 pm : link
Clyde can relax now - his confidence is up.
RE: Melo's 3 is broken  
Aspano! : 2/9/2016 9:37 pm : link
In comment 12808492 Deej said:
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not even close, bad on the season. He's gotta stop launching so many.

Guessing it's knee-related. Need the legs more on the longer shots.
RE: Haha  
RicFlair : 2/9/2016 10:00 pm : link
In comment 12808476 giantsfan44ab said:
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I think I'm the only one here who doesn't mind Clyde. Sure, he is aloof, but it's just kind of funny at some point. When I turn on league pass, my roommates (non from the east coast) get a big laugh from some of the shit he says.

Not sure how many of you have league pass, but there are some horrible, horrible announcers on many local broadcasts. It could be much worse. The Warriors stick out most to me, they are just two superfans who were given the reins of the commentary (at least one of them is, anyways). They reference to the team as "we" and argue about every little foul called against them. The Hornets, Pelicans, and Cavs also stick out to me as guys you want to argue with after some of the shit they say. I'd take Breen and Clyde over most of these local guys.


I love Clyde.
Yeah, I'd probably love listening to Clyde if it was my first time  
PhiPsi125 : 2/9/2016 10:09 pm : link
also, but it's not. He says the same tired sayings every single game, every single year. Plus, he's just not very good. Actually, when I first heard him broadcasting games years ago, I thought there was something wrong with him mentally. I guess you could always do worse. But you can also do better.
What a joke  
nygiants16 : 2/9/2016 10:12 pm : link
Red blew a clean strip now going to lose a 3 point play....game over
RE: RE: Haha  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 12808526 RicFlair said:
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I think I'm the only one here who doesn't mind Clyde. Sure, he is aloof, but it's just kind of funny at some point. When I turn on league pass, my roommates (non from the east coast) get a big laugh from some of the shit he says.

Not sure how many of you have league pass, but there are some horrible, horrible announcers on many local broadcasts. It could be much worse. The Warriors stick out most to me, they are just two superfans who were given the reins of the commentary (at least one of them is, anyways). They reference to the team as "we" and argue about every little foul called against them. The Hornets, Pelicans, and Cavs also stick out to me as guys you want to argue with after some of the shit they say. I'd take Breen and Clyde over most of these local guys.



I love Clyde.


+1

I enjoy him as well. I like his humor and wit, I enjoy his stories, and I think he often has an interesting perspective on things.

I also loved him as a player so maybe that makes a difference. I doubt there are too many fans that rooted for him as a player and old enough to have appreciated him as such that doesn't like listening to him today.
Wow, you can review a charge??? They rarely ever get them right  
PhiPsi125 : 2/9/2016 10:13 pm : link
anyway!! Basketball is becoming completely unwatchable. First they royally screw KP on that strip and now they will reverse this defensive foul. Holy shit.
Another game where the refs decide the game  
nygiants16 : 2/9/2016 10:14 pm : link
Porting is had a clean strip and Knicks would of had a fast break...
Just awful.  
yatqb : 2/9/2016 10:14 pm : link
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Either way this team is an embarrassment  
nygiants16 : 2/9/2016 10:16 pm : link
Team has to get down by double digits before they decide to play hard...
Damn shame.  
yatqb : 2/9/2016 10:16 pm : link
We were right there.
So what can't that just be a basket  
B in ALB : 2/9/2016 10:17 pm : link
and no foul? If the refs are looking at his feet in the restricted area are they also looking at whether it was an offensive foul?

Seems odd that they can now decide offensive fouls like that. Just call it a bucket and no foul on Beal.
RE: Wow, you can review a charge??? They rarely ever get them right  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 10:19 pm : link
In comment 12808539 PhiPsi125 said:
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anyway!! Basketball is becoming completely unwatchable. First they royally screw KP on that strip and now they will reverse this defensive foul. Holy shit.


This is why all these reviews suck. Whether is was or wasn't a charge as a fan you are still asked to accept that being overturned yet accept KP's foul which was a wrong call but not reviewable.

This isn't like football with review on a TD, basketball is a fast pace up and down the court game. Selecting a handful of plays throughout the game to review makes the game worse. Review if a players foot was on the 3-point line fine or if the shot got off before the buzzer but much of this is just bad for the game.
sigh  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 10:20 pm : link
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Christ Gallow  
Deej : 2/9/2016 10:20 pm : link
brutal
Porzingus four point play coming  
eightshamrocks : 2/9/2016 10:21 pm : link
lol
Galloway really has icewater  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 10:23 pm : link
running though his veins.

Maybe the most clutch shooter for the team at this point
Afflalo  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2016 10:24 pm : link
is a very limited player. When he tries to do too much he is exposed. Get the ball to Carmelo or Porzingas.

But that's the downside of a contract with a player option. Guys looked to pad the stats hoping for the big payday, knowing they have the fallback option.

But what really pisses me off about this guy is his repeated failure to get back on transition D. Hope there is a team stupid enough to offer him a bigger contract than the 8 million he is scheduled to get from the knicks.
Was at the game  
SomeFan : 2/9/2016 10:24 pm : link
not a vibrant crowd. We were all surprised the Knicks got themselves back into the game. This team needs some better talent.
RE: Was at the game  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 10:25 pm : link
In comment 12808561 SomeFan said:
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not a vibrant crowd. We were all surprised the Knicks got themselves back into the game. This team needs some better talent.


You left?
Ouch  
Anakim : 2/9/2016 10:28 pm : link
Aww man, Galloway
I'm tired of the losing  
eightshamrocks : 2/9/2016 10:28 pm : link
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RE: Galloway really has icewater  
Anakim : 2/9/2016 10:29 pm : link
In comment 12808559 steve in ky said:
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running though his veins.

Maybe the most clutch shooter for the team at this point


You jinxed us!
I thought it was going in  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 10:29 pm : link
Tough loss
RE: RE: Galloway really has icewater  
steve in ky : 2/9/2016 10:30 pm : link
In comment 12808566 Anakim said:
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running though his veins.

Maybe the most clutch shooter for the team at this point



You jinxed us!


LOL, I know
Same old knicks  
nygiants16 : 2/9/2016 10:30 pm : link
Get down by double digits make a run make you believe and then break your heart at the end...

Same shit different regime, you can change the players but nothing ever changes...
They turned the ball over again and again in the 4th  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2016 10:32 pm : link
and bricked jumper after jumper, instead of taking it to the basket

deserved to lose
At least the plays out of a TO are now better...  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/9/2016 10:33 pm : link
Our guard play is absolutely pathetic. Can't create, can't defend, can barely shoot...
You know what's going to happen  
nygiants16 : 2/9/2016 10:33 pm : link
Knicks will not make the playoffs and then finally win the lottery and the nuggets will get simmons
I'd love for the Knicks/Nuggets to get the first pick. Don't want  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/9/2016 10:35 pm : link
the Lakers or the Sixers to get it.
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SethFromAstoria : 2/9/2016 10:38 pm : link
you have to change the starting lineup  
Vanzetti : 2/9/2016 11:00 pm : link
can't keep falling behind like this. Then you expend all this energy catching up and have nothing left for crunch time.

experiment with different combinations. or if you keep the starting lineup you have to be a lot quicker to pull guys.
What can the Knicks realistically get for Lance Thomas?  
Anakim : 2/9/2016 11:19 pm : link
We probably won't be able to afford to keep him next year, so we might as well trade him now.
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