At #10, we really need a can't miss player who can quickly impact the team. We just wasted 2 years of Beckham's great play. Eli is reaching the end. We need to hit a HR with no risk with the pick. That guy is this WR from Baylor.
Not only is this guy the best WR prospect in this class, he's also a can't miss player who will step into the NFL and have an instant impact. He will change the game for his team because his speed is the kind of stuff that tilts the field. He is a 4.3 guy but it's much more than just timed speed. This is a guy with exceptional short area quickness and moves. He can plant and get wide open on short stuff. He can run by anybody on deep routes.
There is nothing missing here. If we draft him in round 1 we can focus on defense with the FA cash.
Take a look at these clips and imagine this guy in a NYG uniform playing with Beckham:
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The only knock you may here about him is size and playing at Baylor. Ignore it. Plenty of size and strength. And the Baylor offense thing means nothing. Just watch the guy move and get open. It will work in any offense.
He's a Beckham/Brown type but better long speed then both. He's not just a slot guy. He'll be effective on the outside too.
I love this player. Want him on the Giants and playing with Beckham.
Draft Coleman and use the 2nd/3rd pick on defense. Use a lot of the FA cash on defense and find a tall WR such as Jones in CIN or Kearse in SEA.
Do this and we can turn this thing completely around in 2016.
'bet you won't!
Remember in 2011 we had a junk defense and running game, but Eli Manning and the best group of receivers we've had got it done.
Coleman is an interesting prospect. I love his wheels and elusiveness but I think Treadwell is the more complete prospect. He doesn't have the same explosion but a more physical Dez type player opposite Beckham would be lethal, IMO. I see a lot of Alshon in his game too.
Hard Pass for me we already have Beckham no need for another Diva.
This idea of drafting all defense that has been parroted by many around here is foolish. In fact, going into the draft with a plan to completely ignore the offense is downright idiotic.
Yes, we need defensive help, but WR is also a HUGE need. If BPA is a WR they will take him, and they should take him.
Forcing a defensive pick is a good way to ensure we are picking in the top ten for the foreseeable future.
Furthermore, these same posters will likely piss and moan about a reach.
Coleman has Beckham type explosion and quicks. He's going to be a big play machine in the NFL. Draft him and Eli throws 40+ TDs and we have one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL.
As KWALL mentioned, the size and playing at Baylor are both red flags for me, but the dude can ball.
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to NY and punch JR in the face if we go offense with the first pick.
Great point. We should only focus on defense. Plus, free agency was cancelled this year. And we don't even need a WR.
Lmao.
Having an overwhelming strength on offense is just as valuable as adding a pass rusher IMO. I'd like to see both in the first two rounds.
Eric, come on! Don't ever type these words again.
I like Coleman. A lot.
But if we're taking an offensive player at 10, my preferences are:
Elliott
Stanley
Treadwell (still ranked in the top 8 on CBS's big board)
Coleman
He ran everything. Quick slants. Comebacks. Outs. Deep ins. It's a spread offense that gets some matchup advantages but what routes aren't in the offense?
He can run any route and plant and get open against any type of athlete. Moving up to the NFL speed will be nothing for him. Again, it's not just about the 4.3 speed. He has exceptional quickness and explosion out of his cuts. He'll get open all day in the NFL.
He will be in the mix with some teams around #10. Giants have to consider this player.
He will wow you at the combine. Jump numbers and shuttles will be off the board too. I'd bet on him putting up better combine numbers than Beckham.
Randy in CT : 2:14 pm : link : reply
In comment 12807967 HoustonGiant said:
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to NY and punch JR in the face if we go offense with the first pick.
Great point. We should only focus on defense. Plus, free agency was cancelled this year. And we don't even need a WR.
What?????(again)
What did we have for receivers when OBj was suspended for one game?
Randy in CT : 2:14 pm : link : reply
In comment 12807967 HoustonGiant said:
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to NY and punch JR in the face if we go offense with the first pick.
Great point. We should only focus on defense. Plus, free agency was cancelled this year. And we don't even need a WR.
What?????(again)
What did we have for receivers when OBj was suspended for one game?
I think Randy was being sarcastic.
He will wow you at the combine. Jump numbers and shuttles will be off the board too. I'd bet on him putting up better combine numbers than Beckham.
I agree that he should have a better all around combine than OBJ. But OBJ has great hands and runs great routes. There have been a lot of great athletes that didn't make it in the nfl at wideout. I think Coleman will have a good career, but wr is as much a skill position as it is an athletic position. I wouldn't take Coleman in the first round or ahead of Will Fuller, who I think is the better all around receiver.
Pass on Coleman.
You don't need to be 6'3 and 225 anymore to be an elite receiver in the league. I would like this pick, even at 10 if we thought he was worth it.
Giants like good route runners. Combine will be huge with this guy. Sounds like NFL scouts get concerned with Baylor players due the scheme they come out of.
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I do think NYG needs another presence at WR. I was all for going after Amari Cooper last year if he was going to be there. And I think the need for a WR is even more now...with Cruz being a severe question mark.
I do think NYG needs another presence at WR. I was all for going after Amari Cooper last year if he was going to be there. And I think the need for a WR is even more now...with Cruz being a severe question mark.
I agree entirely.
But might that need be better addressed in FA? The Giants have a little money, so perhaps this season all the FA acquisitions may not have to be bargain basement Rent-A-Wrecks!
Sinorice Moss
I watch a fair amount of college football but watching CFB and scouting are very different regardless of what people here tell you. You can't scout players by watching the TV feed from the couch.
Amen. As it stands, this offense is completely done if Beckham goes down. I don't care if it's a WR, TE or a RB but they need to add another playmaker of some sort to the offense.
Giants just need to go BPA/value all throughout FA and the draft.
It's a damn shame they cancelled free agency this year.
That does not mean Reese should reach for a player at 10. Nice player with a 2nd round pick.
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Same size as Coleman. What makes Coleman and different then Wright?
But here is one difference. Movement!
Wright? He ran a 4.6. This kid is a 4.3 mover with sick explosion. Have you seen him cut and jump? No comparison to Wright. Coleman is on a different level.
No where in my post did I mention the 20 TDs he had this season. Production was great but it is for a lot of college WRs who make plays in college but can't do the same with better athletes in the NFL. You see it every year.
With Coleman it's great production in a variety of ways but it's more about his ball skills and movement. It's rare. You can see the kid get off the LOS and run a slant, in, or comeback and see how it will easily work in the NFL.
He's a can't miss player with Beckham/Brown/Steve Smith type upside.