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Giants Also Cutting Beatty

Jon in NYC : 2/10/2016 11:46 am
Mike Garafolo & #8207;@MikeGarafolo 1m1 minute ago
Giants will be releasing LT Will Beatty today, sources say. They're also cutting G Geoff Schwartz, as @DanGrazianoESPN reported.
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How much cap space do we have?  
jcn56 : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
THE PURGE  
Canton : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
NFL style!

Holy shit!
Holy Crap  
jeff57 : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
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Anakim : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 3s3 seconds ago
Will Beatty was due $6.65m in non-guaranteed compensation this coming season. Missed all of last season.
Good  
MookGiants : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
These are steps in the right direction. Good
interesting  
feelflows : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
I can see them working out a new deal with Schwartz at a lower price, but that won't happen here. When healthy, he's a starting tackle in the NFL, someone will pay.
Nice job  
NYerInMA : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
Keep dumping the overpaid, always-injured cases.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
Holy crap. Bloody Wednesday.
wow  
madgiantscow009 : 2/10/2016 11:48 am : link
looks like Ronnie Staley is a real possibility at 10 if he's there.
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Danny Kanell : 2/10/2016 11:49 am : link
I love all of this.
THE  
Jon in NYC : 2/10/2016 11:49 am : link
PURGE
There's a new sheriff in town!  
bceagle05 : 2/10/2016 11:50 am : link
Victor better pull a George Costanza and avoid the Giants calls at all costs.
Nothing like dumping  
Gutless Puke : 2/10/2016 11:50 am : link
Dead weight. Good job.
Today's the day the Giants settle all accounts  
jeff57 : 2/10/2016 11:50 am : link
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McAdoo is doing what Tom couldn't  
Canton : 2/10/2016 11:50 am : link
CUT the cancer
I am saying it hear first  
CMicks3110 : 2/10/2016 11:50 am : link
We are signing COrdy Glenn and I bet we sign one of the good guard free agents, maybe osemele or brooks
Big balls Mac. Big balls!  
Canton : 2/10/2016 11:51 am : link
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I would like to see if Beatty restructures  
The 12th Man : 2/10/2016 11:51 am : link
he is the only one of the 3 that I would have liked to see if he could come back.
Surprising  
Mark from Jersey : 2/10/2016 11:51 am : link
Geoff and Jon not so much.
Power moves from Reese  
GMenLTS : 2/10/2016 11:51 am : link
Go get some free agents baby!
Save $4.2 million on the cap  
jeff57 : 2/10/2016 11:51 am : link
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wow. Wednesday bloody WEDNESDAY!  
Victor in CT : 2/10/2016 11:52 am : link
has to be done.

Are they able under the rules to resign Beatty at a cheaper rate? I wouldn't mind giving him a shot on a team friendly deal to compete for a spot.
Glad to see it...  
Dunedin81 : 2/10/2016 11:52 am : link
I hope they're not treating this as a one-year rebuild though. You can't turnover the roster this much and expect to have instant success, and it's an easy way to get into enduring cap hell. Judicious signings, good drafting and try to get going in the right direction.
Count me as  
bigbluehoya : 2/10/2016 11:52 am : link
Absolutely thrilled with these moves.

This is an excellent start.
This seems like a clear sign in an effort to get healthy players  
USAF NYG Fan : 2/10/2016 11:52 am : link
All three cuts have a history with injuries.
Thats a bit of a WOW  
old man : 2/10/2016 11:52 am : link
Given the challenges EF had last year and also his technique, but I guess they are all on on him(which is fine).
I'd kept WB but he likely wouldnt take the cut, likely requested.
Someones could be getting an adequate starter, or nice backup.
Personally, I think he's back.
Best of luck to these guys.  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/10/2016 11:53 am : link
Liked them all as people, but all of these decisions are the correct ones.

Beatty, IMO, is both the most surprising and the most beneficial. I never liked him as our starting left tackle. Always thought we could do better.
RE: McAdoo is doing what Tom couldn't  
JPinstripes : 2/10/2016 11:54 am : link
In comment 12809056 Canton said:
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CUT the cancer


I think it's more a case of Reese having full control of roster decisions...
RE: I am saying it hear first  
section125 : 2/10/2016 11:54 am : link
In comment 12809057 CMicks3110 said:
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We are signing COrdy Glenn and I bet we sign one of the good guard free agents, maybe osemele or brooks


You are reading my mind on Glenn. But Bobby Hart may be getting a look at. I think he has the ability. Tackle feet in a guard's body.
RE: Glad to see it...  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/10/2016 11:54 am : link
In comment 12809065 Dunedin81 said:
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I hope they're not treating this as a one-year rebuild though. You can't turnover the roster this much and expect to have instant success, and it's an easy way to get into enduring cap hell. Judicious signings, good drafting and try to get going in the right direction.


I don't look at this as roster turnover at all. Not a single one of these players contributed anything of value this past season.
$15 mil in cap space for 3 players that contributed  
CMicks3110 : 2/10/2016 11:54 am : link
Practically nothing. Good move. Would have preferred to keep some as back ups but we are clearly planning for some big moves.
RE: wow. Wednesday bloody WEDNESDAY!  
jcn56 : 2/10/2016 11:54 am : link
In comment 12809064 Victor in CT said:
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has to be done.

Are they able under the rules to resign Beatty at a cheaper rate? I wouldn't mind giving him a shot on a team friendly deal to compete for a spot.


Pretty sure the rules don't prohibit you from re-signing a cut player unless the player was IR'd and let go with an injury settlement.
This one surprises me  
KWALL2 : 2/10/2016 11:55 am : link
If he was healthy it seemed like he was a pretty decent value for 2016 for a team with a long list of holes.
Weren't these moves more or less a given?  
Go Terps : 2/10/2016 11:56 am : link
I'm more interested in how they handle JPP/Prince/Ayers.

I'm also not sure we're going to find a lot of answers in free agency. What is needed now is for Odi, Kennard, Hankins, Collins, et al. to take the next step.
009  
old man : 2/10/2016 11:56 am : link
You could be right, though, unless he is tagged, Mick would be right first with Glenn.
Schwartz/Beason expected, but ....  
Manny in CA : 2/10/2016 11:57 am : link
Beatty ? Flowers proved he couldn't play LT (but will probably be an excellent RT).

Left tackle in the NFL is a high valued position. Beatty isn't a world-beater, but when healthy is more than adequate. This REALLY surprises me, creating another hole in a line that's already depleted.

Maybe Beatty's pec injury is a lot more serious than we all thought.
If Cruz was going to get cut  
TommytheElephant : 2/10/2016 11:59 am : link
would today most likely be the day? Although none of us have that answer - one would have to think so
RE: Schwartz/Beason expected, but ....  
Victor in CT : 2/10/2016 11:59 am : link
In comment 12809093 Manny in CA said:
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Beatty ? Flowers proved he couldn't play LT (but will probably be an excellent RT).

Left tackle in the NFL is a high valued position. Beatty isn't a world-beater, but when healthy is more than adequate. This REALLY surprises me, creating another hole in a line that's already depleted.

Maybe Beatty's pec injury is a lot more serious than we all thought.


When did Flowers prove that?
These kinds of moves are really going to many guys on edge  
FranknWeezer : 2/10/2016 11:59 am : link
...and that's a good thing since there seems to be some complacency with some of the vets on this team. Love a good purge.
evolution baby........  
BillKo : 2/10/2016 12:00 pm : link
evolution............
RE: Schwartz/Beason expected, but ....  
Kevin in Annapolis : 2/10/2016 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12809093 Manny in CA said:
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Beatty ? Flowers proved he couldn't play LT (but will probably be an excellent RT).

He was a rookie playing with a high ankle sprain all year.
bceagle05  
old man : 2/10/2016 12:00 pm : link
If Ayers or JPP are the next 'bloody' call, f Im VC, I call first and offer THEM a new contract:vet min, with beacoup incentives.
RE: If Cruz was going to get cut  
feelflows : 2/10/2016 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12809104 TommytheElephant said:
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would today most likely be the day? Although none of us have that answer - one would have to think so


Tommy, if the Giants are happy with his injury progress they will look to restructure him. If he isn't agreeable to that, then it's a possible cut. I don't expect any Cruz news today.
RE: Today's the day the Giants settle all accounts  
Ron Johnson : 2/10/2016 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12809055 jeff57 said:
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who has to answer for Santino?
the only thing  
MookGiants : 2/10/2016 12:01 pm : link
Flowers proved last year is he is tough as hell. Nothing else was proven either good or bad.
Cuts  
stretch234 : 2/10/2016 12:01 pm : link
The reality is you have to find replacements. Finding young healthy cost effective replacements is not an easy task

Signing FA has a direct effect on your own pending FA costs
RE: Schwartz/Beason expected, but ....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/10/2016 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12809093 Manny in CA said:
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Beatty ? Flowers proved he couldn't play LT (but will probably be an excellent RT).


I don't think he proved anything.

The recent history of high-drafted rookies playing LT in this league is that they struggle. Wouldn't rule anything out at this point.
RE: Schwartz/Beason expected, but ....  
Beer Man : 2/10/2016 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12809093 Manny in CA said:
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Beatty ? Flowers proved he couldn't play LT (but will probably be an excellent RT).

Left tackle in the NFL is a high valued position. Beatty isn't a world-beater, but when healthy is more than adequate. This REALLY surprises me, creating another hole in a line that's already depleted.

Maybe Beatty's pec injury is a lot more serious than we all thought.
I wouldn't be so quick to write-off Flowers at LT. You had a rookie playing the most difficult spot on the O-line, while learning the speed of the NFL game. Most rookie tackles start at guard or RT before being trusted into the LT. Lets see how he develops.
RE: RE: If Cruz was going to get cut  
Gutless Puke : 2/10/2016 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12809114 feelflows said:
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In comment 12809104 TommytheElephant said:


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would today most likely be the day? Although none of us have that answer - one would have to think so



Tommy, if the Giants are happy with his injury progress they will look to restructure him. If he isn't agreeable to that, then it's a possible cut. I don't expect any Cruz news today.


It will strictly be a pay cut, not restructure. He must be open to it, otherwise, he would be gone already.
RE: I am saying it hear first  
shyster : 2/10/2016 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12809057 CMicks3110 said:
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We are signing COrdy Glenn and I bet we sign one of the good guard free agents, maybe osemele or brooks


Bills' beat writer thinks franchise tag for Glenn is likely scenario.

http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/01/27/249754/
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