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Mario Williams

mdthedream : 2/10/2016 10:19 pm
would be a nice addition to this team. Than look to add a nice young Spence type in the draft.
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I would keep JPP  
idiotsavant : 2/11/2016 12:01 pm : link
then trade down in the first, and use the two first round picks AND the second round pick all on various types of defensive line players taking advantage of a unique strength of the draft slash positional emphasis opportunity.

Followed by a linebacker in round 3.

and a pile of free safety / corners in 4,5 and 6.

maybe a slot wr in 4,5 or 6.

and top it all off with a fullback in 7.
Have to wonder  
TMS : 2/11/2016 12:09 pm : link
what an improved JPP and motivated Williams alongside Hankins would do for our DL. A lot to ask for but what the hell.
mayock says DL and in particular interior DL is the strength  
idiotsavant : 2/11/2016 12:30 pm : link
'by far and away' with about 10 noteworthy players.

one needs to avoid the tendency to be complacent and grab whomever falls as opposed to whichever interior DT has the power AND the pass rush ability (billings? I have no idea who, have not looked) high, before he is off the board...then get another like that as well.
He has to be high on the list  
KWALL2 : 2/11/2016 12:54 pm : link
He can still be a very good 2 way DE for a few years.

Peppers is still kicking ass at 36. Williams at the right price would be a nice addition.
JPP, JR & Mario  
Mike53 : 2/11/2016 12:54 pm : link
Hi I'm new to the corner. I would love to have them back at the right price. We have plenty of hole to fill on this team. But, if past history has taught us anything. Do not over spend. You don't need a team of High Priced, injury prone players to win championships. you need solid players whom stay on the field and give it their all. NE and Pitt somehow every year do it.
Doesn't our cap put us in a great position  
3putt : 2/11/2016 1:01 pm : link
to sign an older guy like this? With all our cap space this year we can frontload the contract making it attractive to the player and still keep us with a healthy cap situation going forward?
He's a poster child for the modern open market condition  
JonC : 2/11/2016 1:15 pm : link
You rarely get your money's worth from him. Tough decision. Already 31 and could command $10M per.
If Mario is available I'd 100% go for it - reminds me of Peppers in FA  
Eric on Li : 2/11/2016 1:20 pm : link
when people thought he was done (the first time when he went to CHI at age 30. Like Peppers he's an athletic freak and almost always plays 15/16 games. I think he's got a solid run left, especially if he can go to a team that has players around him in the front 7 (like JPP, Hankins, and hopefully more additions in FA + draft).
RE: Last year was an outlier in a career that saw double digit sacks  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/11/2016 1:34 pm : link
In comment 12810551 jcn56 said:
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70% of the time. A new scheme, one that completely changed his role and left him (and others) a lot less productive.

The reason he's going to command a lot of money is because a lot of teams are going to be willing to pay him. And for good reason - he's been a productive, healthy player for a very long time.

Nobody is getting him on the cheap, and rightfully so.


When the "outlier" is the most recent season and the player is 31 it also makes one wonder if he is on the decline.

Maybe he will bounce back, but it is a risk.

If he has a double digit sack season we can call last year an anomaly. Until he actually bounces back we can't say for certain that last season isn't the new Mario.
We should take him if available  
JohnVB : 2/11/2016 1:53 pm : link
Sign JPP/Mario and we have our rush back. Then you draft a DE at 10 and we have two guys in the pipeline.
Re-sign JPP if it's somewhat affordable  
djm : 2/11/2016 2:30 pm : link
let Ayers walk. Sign JAckson from Denver and Vernon from Miami. Done.
RE: Re-sign JPP if it's somewhat affordable  
Mike53 : 2/11/2016 3:08 pm : link
In comment 12811016 djm said:
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let Ayers walk. Sign JAckson from Denver and Vernon from Miami. Done.


if the price is right, both solid players
I'd give him 4 years 40 million in a heartbeat  
GMenLTS : 2/11/2016 3:11 pm : link
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So if Williams is released  
Big Blue '56 : 2/11/2016 4:15 pm : link
he can sign immediately with anyone else as a vested vet, correct?
Mario Williams  
johnboyw : 2/11/2016 5:11 pm : link
All of those free agents noted and their grandmothers could play for the Giants now. Take your pick.
RE: I don't think Eli  
Jersey55 : 2/14/2016 4:22 pm : link
In comment 12810292 Doomster said:
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has 5 good/great years left in him, more like 3....that window is closing on a great qb, who was let down by the machinations of the front office/ownership....the decision to retool, was put off too long....they were thinking repeat in 2012, and getting to the big game in 2013, when they should have been planning for the future....the result, is the mess we are in now....

this is all too true, Reese should have been getting a lot more attention from everybody about the state of this team before it got to where it is now.
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