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Reggie Ragland at #10

BlueGuy : 2/12/2016 1:52 am
No brainer. This is the next Patrick Willis. A heat seeker with coverage and pass rush skills. The best LB in the draft. Period. Acts like he's been there when he makes a big play. Seeks out his teammates instead of the typical 'look at me' bullshit.

Myles Jack at 6"1'/225 with a serious knee injury. No. Jaylon Smith with a torn ACL and MCL. Please no. Ragland at 6'2'/254 can play all LB positions.

Truer instincts at the LB position cannot be found in any LB this year. Played at Bama and was the arguably the best defender on the team along with A'Shawn Robinson. They handed the Spartans their ass in the Cotton Bowl.

The signal caller and defensive captain was also of 10 NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision student-athletes who were selected as finalists for the 2015 Senior CLASS Award. To be eligible for the award, a student-athlete must be classified as an NCAA Division I FBS senior and have notable achievements in four areas of excellence: community, classroom, character and competition.

Mr. Reese. Please help us restore our LB corps with the #10 pick. Reggie Ragland. I promise you. You will see shades of our 80's LB corps wrapped up in one guy. Let's get back to winning on defense.
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Myles Jack's knee injury is not considered serious  
David in LA : 2/12/2016 2:12 am : link
we'll see at the combine. I like Ragland, but don't see the value at 10. IMO there will be better players available.
RE: Myles Jack's knee injury is not considered serious  
BlueGuy : 2/12/2016 2:26 am : link
In comment 12811693 David in LA said:
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we'll see at the combine. I like Ragland, but don't see the value at 10. IMO there will be better players available.


Noted. For me, Ragland has already played on a pro team (Bama), been a captain, brings the wood and can call a a defense. When was the last time we had that?
National Champioship Game  
Peppers : 2/12/2016 3:31 am : link
Clemson is driving down the field trying to score at the end of the game. Wanna guess where Ragland is? He's on the sideline. Ragland is a liability in coverage. Miles Jack and Jaylon Smith have been used to cover receivers in the slot and on the outside.

If he tests like Kuechly did, Ragland should be in the mix at 10.  
Big Blue Blogger : 2/12/2016 4:25 am : link
The thing is, there seems to be very little chance of him doing that. The pre-Combine consensus on Ragland is that he's a lesser prospect than Mosley, who was a legit three-down defender and still lasted until the 15th pick.

The Giant defense can't get off the field on third down. If they use their first-round pick on that side of the ball, it had better be for a player who helps to solve that problem: DL, LB, DB, whatever. He needs to be a difference-maker on third down.
Ragland helped himself Senior Bowl week...  
Torrag : 2/12/2016 4:37 am : link
He performed well with good mobility and plays a physical brand of football. The coaches and scouts liked what they saw. He's a football player...which we need many more of on our roster, especially on defense.

I have no idea if the Giants will draft him but he's a leader and would be an instant and significant upgrade at the MIKE position.
He's a good player  
RetroJint : 2/12/2016 5:47 am : link
But I doubt he will be in a row that will allow Reese to choose him at 10.
I disagree with Ragland as a top 10 pick. I've only watched two games  
Ira : 2/12/2016 5:53 am : link
of his on Draft Breakdown and came away unimpressed. The comparisons to Kuechly aren't, IMO, very valid. Kuechly has an uncanny ability to diagnose a play and accelerate quickly in the right direction. I don't see that in Ragland. Also, Kuechly is a better athlete than Ragland. I think we'll see that at the combine.

Ragland isn't going to help his team much in coverage and from what I saw isn't very good at getting to the quarterback or in pursuit of a rb. If the other team runs a play to his vicinity, he'll make the tackle. He's a good tackler.

IMO, Ragland would be a be a very bad choice at 10. I know I rate RR lower than most, but I think Kentrell Brothers will be a better linebacker in the pros. Brothers is even less an athlete than Ragland, but he has great football instincts and has a way getting to the ball before faster players.
Todd McShay  
BlueGuy : 2/12/2016 5:57 am : link
ESPN Senior Writer

With the Senior Bowl practices in the books, let's run through our top 20 players from Mobile, Alabama.

1. Carson Wentz, QB North Dakota State: Wentz checked off every box. He has the frame (6-foot-5¼, 233 pounds). He has the arm. He can make all the throws -- even in cold, windy weather. He displayed a good demeanor with his coaches and teammates. Wentz played his way into the conversation as the first QB off the board.

2. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville: Rankins showed good pass-rush skills in one-on-one drills, while also penetrating the backfield against the run. He stood out among a great group of defensive linemen.

3. Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama: We already knew he could stuff the run, but this week has been a good opportunity for Ragland to show off his pass-rushing ability. An underrated athlete at 259 pounds, Ragland routinely beat RBs and O-linemen off the edge.
For those that follow  
Carl in CT : 2/12/2016 7:37 am : link
Know he is a football player. But so are others. To go has high as 10 he will have to test well. The make or break for RR will be his speed. Combine will tell.
This team needs LB's that can do it all  
Rjanyg : 2/12/2016 7:43 am : link
I like the idea of Ragland, a thumper who brings down the ball carrier. I guess it will come down to the combine if he is even in the conversation at 10. The question is, is there a guy that is close in ability that might be available in rounds 2 or 3? We have a lack of talent up and down the roster. I want a young linebacker on this team and if I had to choose it would be Jaylon Smith. He will be freak.
maybe of we dropped back a couple times  
eli4life : 2/12/2016 7:51 am : link
At 10 if we took a lb he better be able to cover on passing downs not be on the sidelines. I'd love to have him but not at 10 too many better players will be there.
what Blogger and Retro said  
JonC : 2/12/2016 8:01 am : link
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wouldn't be surprised  
Phil in LA : 2/12/2016 8:07 am : link
if Ragland falls like Collins did last year.
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arcarsenal : 2/12/2016 8:26 am : link
Ragland is going to be a prototypical run stopping thumper in the middle of a 4-3. I have my doubts about his range and coverage. There's definitely a place for him in this league I just think 10 is too high to take him and that we'd be passing up better talent if we did.
More likely NYG looks for a veteran MIKE  
JonC : 2/12/2016 8:32 am : link
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RE: Todd McShay  
The_Boss : 2/12/2016 8:33 am : link
In comment 12811721 BlueGuy said:
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ESPN Senior Writer

With the Senior Bowl practices in the books, let's run through our top 20 players from Mobile, Alabama.

1. Carson Wentz, QB North Dakota State: Wentz checked off every box. He has the frame (6-foot-5¼, 233 pounds). He has the arm. He can make all the throws -- even in cold, windy weather. He displayed a good demeanor with his coaches and teammates. Wentz played his way into the conversation as the first QB off the board.

2. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville: Rankins showed good pass-rush skills in one-on-one drills, while also penetrating the backfield against the run. He stood out among a great group of defensive linemen.

3. Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama: We already knew he could stuff the run, but this week has been a good opportunity for Ragland to show off his pass-rushing ability. An underrated athlete at 259 pounds, Ragland routinely beat RBs and O-linemen off the edge.


Ragland isn't an edge player.
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arcarsenal : 2/12/2016 8:36 am : link
I wonder how far Jaylon Smith will drop because of the knee injury. That guy looked like an absolute stud before he went down. Someone probably nabs him by the end of the 1st rd but if he fell to within range of our 2nd pick I'd be awfully tempted to make a move.
Looks like the real deal  
TMS : 2/12/2016 10:15 am : link
Here is Mayocks take on his WEAKNESSES: Some scouts question his play speed. Can be inconsistent with his angles when playing downhill. Could get himself in trouble miscalculating NFL speed to the perimeter. Will get locked up more often by pro linemen if he tries to take on all blocks rather than punch and shed. Alabama’s outstanding defensive front allowed him to roam unblocked for much of the year. Can handle himself in zone coverage but man cover skills are limited. But overall could be our guy depending who else is still there at #10
What Blogs Said  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/12/2016 10:24 am : link
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The Giant defense can't get off the field on third down. If they use their first-round pick on that side of the ball, it had better be for a player who helps to solve that problem: DL, LB, DB, whatever. He needs to be a difference-maker on third down.


In Bold - Should be in Caps -- I'm putting it in an envelope and sending it to Jerry Reese - SWAK
RE: RE: Myles Jack's knee injury is not considered serious  
Milton : 2/12/2016 10:32 am : link
In comment 12811695 BlueGuy said:
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For me, Ragland has already played on a pro team (Bama), been a captain, brings the wood and can call a a defense. When was the last time we had that?
Does the name Landon Collins ring a bell? And he was a disappointment, if you ask me (though I'm sure others will disagree).
He'll be there  
HoustonGiant : 2/12/2016 10:34 am : link
at 40.
40?  
Torrag : 2/12/2016 10:56 am : link
Maybe but I doubt it. Probably off the board in the 20-30 range.
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Ira : 2/12/2016 12:23 pm : link
In comment 12811833 arcarsenal said:
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I wonder how far Jaylon Smith will drop because of the knee injury. That guy looked like an absolute stud before he went down. Someone probably nabs him by the end of the 1st rd but if he fell to within range of our 2nd pick I'd be awfully tempted to make a move.


Would you trade up into the end of the first using the 2nd plus a 3rd or 4th to get him?
Our roster looks like Swiss cheese...  
Torrag : 2/12/2016 12:24 pm : link
...and you're contemplating trading additional draft picks on a seriously injured player. Not to mention we've been the most injured team in the NFL over the last 5 years. Oh boy.
RE: RE: RE: Myles Jack's knee injury is not considered serious  
rebel yell : 2/12/2016 12:43 pm : link
In comment 12812018 Milton said:
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For me, Ragland has already played on a pro team (Bama), been a captain, brings the wood and can call a a defense. When was the last time we had that?

Does the name Landon Collins ring a bell? And he was a disappointment, if you ask me (though I'm sure others will disagree).

I'll be the first to disagree. I don't see how you can call any rookie who plays almost the entire season a disappointment, particularly one who was being used to fill gaping defensive holes and in a role not best suited to his abilities and style.
Another ILB to watch at the Combine will be Scooby Wright.  
Big Blue Blogger : 2/12/2016 1:18 pm : link
Any Pac-12 fans have an impression of him, or how he compares to the other potential MIKEs? Do his injuries this year pose a serious concern for the future?
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arcarsenal : 2/12/2016 1:37 pm : link
In comment 12812322 Ira said:
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In comment 12811833 arcarsenal said:


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I wonder how far Jaylon Smith will drop because of the knee injury. That guy looked like an absolute stud before he went down. Someone probably nabs him by the end of the 1st rd but if he fell to within range of our 2nd pick I'd be awfully tempted to make a move.



Would you trade up into the end of the first using the 2nd plus a 3rd or 4th to get him?


If he got near that range where it was possible and the Giants were convinced he is going to make a full recovery, yes. This was a sure fire top 10 talent and best linebacker in the draft before the injury. I know it doesn't help us much for this upcoming season but the talent is there. This kid is legit.

A lot of people will say they wouldn't do it, which is fine... I know we need all the picks we can get. But again, if he fell far enough where he was within realistic range of our 2nd pick I'd be awfully tempted.
If he's there at the top of round 2 I'm fine with a trade up like  
Go Terps : 2/12/2016 1:41 pm : link
for Collins.
I like Brothers better  
JPinstripes : 2/12/2016 1:47 pm : link
and he may be had in round 3.
Cubed  
JonC : 2/12/2016 1:59 pm : link
Scooby wasn't a great athlete before the leg injuries, he is probably a late-round quality athlete but a big hearted football player.
Thanks JonC. Follow-up question...  
Big Blue Blogger : 2/12/2016 2:12 pm : link
JonC said:
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Scooby wasn't a great athlete before the leg injuries, he is probably a late-round quality athlete but a big hearted football player.

Big hearted like Antonio Pierce, or big hearted like Mark Herzlich? (i.e. big heart makes him a difference-maker, or big heart makes him a sentimental favorite?)
The best LB in the draft is Jaylon Smith and its not close  
BigBlueCane : 2/12/2016 2:18 pm : link
Ragland is a product of Bama's defense.
RE: Thanks JonC. Follow-up question...  
JonC : 2/12/2016 2:32 pm : link
In comment 12812539 Big Blue Blogger said:
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JonC said:

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Scooby wasn't a great athlete before the leg injuries, he is probably a late-round quality athlete but a big hearted football player.


Big hearted like Antonio Pierce, or big hearted like Mark Herzlich? (i.e. big heart makes him a difference-maker, or big heart makes him a sentimental favorite?)


A destructive difference-maker in college, when healthy,
but questions regarding his projection/AA making the leap to the NFL now persist. He's probably a mid-round 3-4 ILB or 4-3 SAM.
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