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DanMetroMan : 2/12/2016 4:46 pm
Adam Rubin & #10004; @AdamRubinESPN
WOW. Jenrry Mejia permanently suspended by MLB.
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Nice Sandy interview  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 1:02 am : link
Geezus I love this man and it feels good to be vindicated after defending this guy for years on an island. lol.
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Good article ZGiants  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2016 9:03 am : link
Thank you for posting!

Great Q&A with Sany and love the confirmation that Bastardo will be an "inning guy" not a LOOGY. Although most did not expect him to be a specialist when we signed him.
RE: Nice Sandy interview  
PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 11:18 am : link
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Geezus I love this man and it feels good to be vindicated after defending this guy for years on an island. lol. Link - ( New Window )


Vindicated? Lol, you never miss a chance to throw "I told you so" in everyone's faces. Well, that and I don't exactly think there's anything to feel "vindicated" about. Getting lucky last season doesn't change that fact and doesn't mean that all the past criticisms wasn't warranted. Because they certainly were.

The mets have built a great team for...next year. That's assuming all the one year deal players work out and then, what, do it all over again next season with more one year deals hoping for everything to work out again? Rinse, repeat. Don't get me wrong, I'm ecstatic about next year. But there is something to be said about building stability in a team instead of having to turn over half the roster every year because the team is allergic to any deal over 3 years.

Not interested in getting into a back and forth all day since we are on different sides of the spectrum on this one. But the "I told you so stuff" in January is pretty childish.
RE: Might be more to  
PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 11:23 am : link
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this Mejia scandal. Apparently Baldenone can stay in your system for up to 18 months. WTF? Link - ( New Window )


If this is true then he can't be suspended. How does the brain trust of MLB not know this? If true, seems like an easily winnable case for Mejia. Naturally, I expect MLB to do all the wrong things.
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section125 : 2/14/2016 11:34 am : link
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this Mejia scandal. Apparently Baldenone can stay in your system for up to 18 months. WTF? Link - ( New Window )



If this is true then he can't be suspended. How does the brain trust of MLB not know this? If true, seems like an easily winnable case for Mejia. Naturally, I expect MLB to do all the wrong things.


If it is what he was suspended for before, they will have those levels in his system on record. If the level didn't go down (they would likely know the rate it should go down over time) he likely was still using. MLB is not going to get sued on something like PED suspensions.
Clippard pitched in 1 gm last year prior to 8th inning - Bastardo 32  
Eric on Li : 2/14/2016 11:45 am : link
So he is not an apples to apples replacement. The vast majority of Clippard's innings were in the 9th actually (his 19 saves last year were more than Bastardo has in his career). Going forward I would probably take Bastardo over Clippard given their equal salaries, but given the Mejia news I'd have preferred to have both of them. They're the same age and Clippard has been better 4/5 the last 5 years - last year could have just been a down year where he got worn out due to exceptionally high workloads. In terms of $ Addison Reed + Mejia is pretty close to the overall money Clippard got. But we didn't know what we didn't know so life goes on. I think it's likely we're shopping for a setup man again at the deadline, which is fine as long as Familia doesn't have to get overused in the interim.

And LOL at the "vindicated" comment. Sandy has a track record of being one of the best GM's in baseball and his hiring was universally praised. Every trade he made was universally praised. The farm system and pitching talent was ranked at the top of baseball. A book was published touting his triumph turning the franchise around despite the team never having won 80 games during his tenure. Talk about delusional hyperbole.
RE: RE: Nice Sandy interview  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 1:55 pm : link
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Geezus I love this man and it feels good to be vindicated after defending this guy for years on an island. lol. Link - ( New Window )



Vindicated? Lol, you never miss a chance to throw "I told you so" in everyone's faces. Well, that and I don't exactly think there's anything to feel "vindicated" about. Getting lucky last season doesn't change that fact and doesn't mean that all the past criticisms wasn't warranted. Because they certainly were.

The mets have built a great team for...next year. That's assuming all the one year deal players work out and then, what, do it all over again next season with more one year deals hoping for everything to work out again? Rinse, repeat. Don't get me wrong, I'm ecstatic about next year. But there is something to be said about building stability in a team instead of having to turn over half the roster every year because the team is allergic to any deal over 3 years.

Not interested in getting into a back and forth all day since we are on different sides of the spectrum on this one. But the "I told you so stuff" in January is pretty childish.


God you are such a stupid fucking asshole sometimes. First of all, I said it playfully but you never miss a chance to be the resident assclown. Must be particularly difficult for you considering what a pessimistic dickhead you have been over the last few years. We got lucky last year? Are you fucking serious? Beating the Dodgers and making the 97 win Cubs look like fools was luck??? The Mets are the reigning NL champs and are as good as any team in baseball. Period. And one year contracts? Lol. Like long term deals are better than short term deals? Haha. The hilarious part is 95% of our roster is under team control for years. But yeah... Sucks we aren't locked into Colón, De Aza, Cabrera, and Walker for all of eternity. Never fail to miss a chance to complain about something though, do you? Bravo.
RE: Clippard pitched in 1 gm last year prior to 8th inning - Bastardo 32  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 1:57 pm : link
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So he is not an apples to apples replacement. The vast majority of Clippard's innings were in the 9th actually (his 19 saves last year were more than Bastardo has in his career). Going forward I would probably take Bastardo over Clippard given their equal salaries, but given the Mejia news I'd have preferred to have both of them. They're the same age and Clippard has been better 4/5 the last 5 years - last year could have just been a down year where he got worn out due to exceptionally high workloads. In terms of $ Addison Reed + Mejia is pretty close to the overall money Clippard got. But we didn't know what we didn't know so life goes on. I think it's likely we're shopping for a setup man again at the deadline, which is fine as long as Familia doesn't have to get overused in the interim.

And LOL at the "vindicated" comment. Sandy has a track record of being one of the best GM's in baseball and his hiring was universally praised. Every trade he made was universally praised. The farm system and pitching talent was ranked at the top of baseball. A book was published touting his triumph turning the franchise around despite the team never having won 80 games during his tenure. Talk about delusional hyperbole.


People trashed Sandy up and down. Get the fuck out of here. Anyone here is dillusional it's you. Oh and Clippard still sucks. Happy Valentines sweetie.
Wow, complete whiff on the whole "childish" point  
PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 2:02 pm : link
You really have the temperament of a petulant child. Your temper tantrums are always good for a laugh though. This whole roid-rage thing really works for you. You have serious issues.
RE: Wow, complete whiff on the whole  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 3:11 pm : link
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You really have the temperament of a petulant child. Your temper tantrums are always good for a laugh though. This whole roid-rage thing really works for you. You have serious issues.


Yeah I have serious issues... You seriously only show up when there is something to complain about. Some obscure article posted about the Mets finances and Phi is leading the charge of the "world is ending" brigade. Mets sign Cespdes (something you whined like a little girl about for months) and you crawl into a hole to disappear for weeks. Only to show up when there is something to attack Shecky, myself, or Seth about. You're a pathetic soul and I honestly feel sorry for you. You must be a real joy at a party as well.
You know what Phi  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 3:29 pm : link
I apologize. Im out of line. You just really piss me off sometimes. lol. It amazes me how you're even a Mets fan with comments like" the Mets got lucky last year".

This team was built from the ground up and even a blind squirrel could have seen what was building here years ago. The Mets are now getting national recognition as the gold standard on "how to build a team".

Jones, the former Brave and future Hall of Famer, praised the defending National League champion Mets during a Tuesday appearance on SiriusXM's MLB Network Radio channel. It started when he was asked if solidifying the rotation is the best way to recharge a club like Atlanta.

“That’s where I would start,” said Jones, now a special assistant with his old team. “I think the blueprint is kind of what the New York Mets are doing right now. Obviously, it’s hard to come up with three or four guns like the Mets have, whether it’s (Matt) Harvey, (Jacob) deGrom, (Zack) Wheeler coming back, (Noah) Syndergaard, the lefty Matz.

“They’ve got a whole entire rotation that lives at 94-95 (mph) and has an idea of what they’re doing with their breaking stuff.

“They’re really setting the bar and they’re my early-season pick to probably go all the way.”


I guess in your world this all shockingly happened out of nowhere and its "still just luck".
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PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 3:40 pm : link
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You really have the temperament of a petulant child. Your temper tantrums are always good for a laugh though. This whole roid-rage thing really works for you. You have serious issues.



Yeah I have serious issues... You seriously only show up when there is something to complain about. Some obscure article posted about the Mets finances and Phi is leading the charge of the "world is ending" brigade. Mets sign Cespdes (something you whined like a little girl about for months) and you crawl into a hole to disappear for weeks. Only to show up when there is something to attack Shecky, myself, or Seth about. You're a pathetic soul and I honestly feel sorry for you. You must be a real joy at a party as well.


Lol, don't feel sorry for me. I'm not the one that embarrasses myself here on a daily basis. I Share the same frame of mind about this team as most of the other rational fans here. Focus on the word "rational" since we know it's a foreign concept to you. Also, please leave Shecky out of it. Disagreeing with someone isn't "attacking" them. I don't get into it with him because he can actually hold an adult conversation without reverting to a profanity-laced temper tantrum every time someone disagrees with him. If you want an example of attacking, see refer to your first post to me.

I disappear for weeks because you and another ruin these threads whenever somebody has a differing opinion. It's like clockwork. Like I said, don't feel sorry for me. I'm not the one that is mocked throughout this site for how I act. That would be you. Grow up. Or get help. Either one will do.
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ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 3:47 pm : link
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You really have the temperament of a petulant child. Your temper tantrums are always good for a laugh though. This whole roid-rage thing really works for you. You have serious issues.



Yeah I have serious issues... You seriously only show up when there is something to complain about. Some obscure article posted about the Mets finances and Phi is leading the charge of the "world is ending" brigade. Mets sign Cespdes (something you whined like a little girl about for months) and you crawl into a hole to disappear for weeks. Only to show up when there is something to attack Shecky, myself, or Seth about. You're a pathetic soul and I honestly feel sorry for you. You must be a real joy at a party as well.



Lol, don't feel sorry for me. I'm not the one that embarrasses myself here on a daily basis. I Share the same frame of mind about this team as most of the other rational fans here. Focus on the word "rational" since we know it's a foreign concept to you. Also, please leave Shecky out of it. Disagreeing with someone isn't "attacking" them. I don't get into it with him because he can actually hold an adult conversation without reverting to a profanity-laced temper tantrum every time someone disagrees with him. If you want an example of attacking, see refer to your first post to me.

I disappear for weeks because you and another ruin these threads whenever somebody has a differing opinion. It's like clockwork. Like I said, don't feel sorry for me. I'm not the one that is mocked throughout this site for how I act. That would be you. Grow up. Or get help. Either one will do.


Oh really. Who attacked who first? Seems like clockwork that you are the one jumping all over me every moment you can. Everyone knows I was off an an island here for years preaching that "Sandy's plan would come together and we were finally building something sustainable. There were a few others that may have appreciated what Sandy was doing but the vast majority shit all over him and the Mets in general for years here. You still do with regularity. I took a ton of abuse here for years and you know it. Yeah I jokingly said it feels good to be vindicated mainly because I was so impressed with that interview by Sandy. Sorry that offended you so much.
Whatever...  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 3:51 pm : link
Back to the interview...

Some interesting points...

Sandy mentioned moving Flores off SS due to the acquisition on Cabrera "the downside of the move" meaning to me they might still like him there at times and in the least are still very high on him.

Also of note, Sandy brought up Cabrera and Walker first when asked about candidates who would spell Wright when he is getting his normal rest. So maybe Walker or Cabrera play 3rd and Flores goes back to SS or 2B?
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PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 4:07 pm : link
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Oh really. Who attacked who first? Seems like clockwork that you are the one jumping all over me every moment you can. Everyone knows I was off an an island here for years preaching that "Sandy's plan would come together and we were finally building something sustainable. There were a few others that may have appreciated what Sandy was doing but the vast majority shit all over him and the Mets in general for years here. You still do with regularity. I took a ton of abuse here for years and you know it. Yeah I jokingly said it feels good to be vindicated mainly because I was so impressed with that interview by Sandy. Sorry that offended you so much.


Well, when you have such an extreme approach as the one you take, you have to expect to get differing opinions. I'm hardly the only one. I won't post much because of stuff just like this but I read every single thread. Again, I'm hardly the only one.

Yeah, you "playfully" like to throw it in people's faces all the time. Even though you say that you don't do it. But you do. A lot.

Maybe I should have clarified, yes I thought they were lucky to even get to the playoffs last year. For many reasons. But I'm pretty sure it wasn't in Sandy's grand plan for the Gomez deal to fall through, the Bruce deal the fall through, only to settle for a last minute Cespedes deal where he had an unsustainable historic month, for the Nats to implode, and only win 90 games in the weakest division in MLB. Yeah, I think luck played a part in getting there. Doesn't mean I don't think it's a good team set up for the future. That's me just being realistic about last season. I'm perfectly capable of seeing multiple sides of a story. That's called a "grownup" perspective.

Funny thing is, when I wrote that first post I thought to myself, "I know what I'm writing isn't that bad but I fully expect to be torn to shreds by Zgiants." Thanks for coming through. God forbid you have an adult conversation without going mental.
Lol. ok.  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:12 pm : link
Yeah the Gomez deal fell through and the Bruce deal fell through? Oh really?? Thats funny. I seem to remember that SANDY squashed the Gomez deal because he didn't like the medicals. He didn't get lucky. He is THE REASON WE WENT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. And what Bruce deal? The Reds told Sandy what they wanted for Bruce and Sandy kept shopping in spite of it. In other words, he was looking for a better deal, like AKA Cespdes. How is that luck? That is differentiating between players and going with the one you like more.... like you know YO.

Yeah... all luck.. lol.
If anything it proves  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:16 pm : link
Sandy was hedging his bets and had fall back option. If Cespedes didn't work he likely could have called the Reds last minute and still made a deal for Bruce.

Same thing happened with the Walker deal. When Zobrist signed it was clear Sandy already had a VERY GOOD fall back option in Walker ready to go.

The guy is one of the best GMs in baseball. We owe him everything.

I pray to God this guy can defeat cancer and keep going strong.
There you go again with your "Zg-logic" and exaggerations  
PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 4:20 pm : link
Where did I ever say it was "all luck" as you mention? Oh yeah, I didn't.

And who cares why the deals didn't happen...the fact is they didn't happen, hence, fell through. Pretty simple, not sure where you are going with this. You can believe whatever excuse Sandy wants the fans to believe. Doesn't change the fact that Ces was his last option.

But whatever. There's no such thing as a two-way conversation with you, so carry on with whatever you want to believe.
Oh and by the way, I think your God Sandy would  
PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 4:21 pm : link
be the first one to say that they got lucky to some extent last year.
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ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:30 pm : link
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Where did I ever say it was "all luck" as you mention? Oh yeah, I didn't.

And who cares why the deals didn't happen...the fact is they didn't happen, hence, fell through. Pretty simple, not sure where you are going with this. You can believe whatever excuse Sandy wants the fans to believe. Doesn't change the fact that Ces was his last option.

But whatever. There's no such thing as a two-way conversation with you, so carry on with whatever you want to believe.


LOL. You wrote..."Getting lucky last season doesn't change that fact and doesn't mean that all the past criticisms wasn't warranted." AND YOU JUST CLARIFIED the luck you were referring to had to do with the deadline deals?? Wow.

Again. How the hell was Ces his last option? He was talking to multiple teams, knew would it would take to get Bruce if he wanted him and CHOSE Cespedes. That's a last resort? You honestly think he preferred Bruce? Man you're one weird dude sometimes.

Im not buying your your "clarification" anyway. You pissed and moaned down the stretch all August/September warning of us of the big bad Nats and felt the need to tell us daily they were a sleeping giant and we were playing "way over our heads". Im pretty sure you do think we went to the WS due to "luck".

As to your comment about Sandy of course there is some element of luck in all baseball seasons for all teams but you are acting like the Mets weren't the best team in the NL last year and they absolutely were. They made a mockery of teams once we got healthy and had our reinforcements in place.
Whatever man..  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:36 pm : link
I already said I was out of line earlier. I apologize.

Lets move on. To me this is the best Mets team on paper in its history. Yes... history. This isn't the time to be arguing and pissed off at each other. We are approaching a golden era of Mets baseball and we should all be excited and looking forward to it.

No need to re-hash the past. Ill try to do better not to bring up prior views, ect going forward.
Reds  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 4:37 pm : link
deal was killed by the Reds. Not Sandy.
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DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 4:41 pm : link
The Reds backed out of a Jay Bruce-for-Zack Wheeler swap, a source tells Heyman, with a second source telling him that Cincinnati simply “got cold feet” when it came to dealing Bruce. He also spoke to a number of executives who expressed disbelief that neither team was more active at the deadline.

-ring the Jay Bruce talks may have lost momentum. #Reds having second thoughts about #Mets trade package.

— Jerry Crasnick (@jcrasnick) July 31, 2015


Ken Rosenthal ✔ @Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Mets worked into night on trade for #Reds’ Bruce. Expectation among many in industry is that deal will happen.

Noble- According to the Mets, the Reds were prepared to take right-hander Zack Wheeler for Bruce, then called off the deal, then asked for more.

Wheeler, 25, underwent Tommy John surgery in March and cant pitch until next June or July 2016. He is 18-16 in two seasons with the Mets. At least he would have worked cheap: Wheeler is making $546,250 and he's not eligible for arbitration until 2017 or free agency until 2020.
I think part of that is true Dan  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:47 pm : link
I do believe the Reds squashed the initial Wheeler swap but it seems to me once the Reds started asking for more, Sandy decided to keep shopping.

I seem to remember conversations afterword implying Sandy knew what the parameters of a Bruce deal would look like if he felt he needed to go down the road.

I really don't want to argue about this all day though. Sandy got Cespdes and thats all that matters. He got him again this year. Unless one of us were sitting in the room with him there is zero chance anybody knows exactly what the conversations looked like.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 4:51 pm : link
just saying it's been reported by multiple "top" writers that the Mets wanted the Bruce/Wheeler deal to happen and the Reds killed it aka there was some "luck" to that one. If the Reds don't kill it we don't add Cespedes and we don't sign him now. The Reds owner reportedly was personally involved in the trade talks on that one.
I think the Mets were looking at multiple options the entire time they  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:51 pm : link
were discussing Bruce also.

The Mets are making an effort to acquire outfielder Jay Bruce from the rebuilding Reds, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter link), though he adds that they’re also still exploring other options. The report comes on the heels of word from ESPN’s Buster Olney that the Reds would be open to a Bruce-for-Zack Wheeler swap. Andy Martino of the New York Daily News tweets that the current feeling he gets is that New York could pick up Bruce in exchange for Wheeler and another piece. Rosenthal adds to his tweet above that Wheeler would likely be in a deal for Bruce.
The  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 4:53 pm : link
Wheeler for Bruce deal apparently was all but done and then the owner said he wanted more for a "fan favorite" and they asked for Dilson Herrera or Michael Fulmer added to the deal. You will notice that the Reds ended up with far less on Frazier and Chapman than many expected because they had such high/unrealistic asks at the deadline. Same with Bruce. Terrible job by a generally excellent GM.
No  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 4:53 pm : link
offense even your "evidence" mentions "another piece" aka the Reds wanted more in the deal.
Well even if thats true  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:55 pm : link
when they asked for "more" Sandy still had the balls to turn him down under extreme pressure to make a deal in light of the Gomez let down. I still credit Sandy for standing his ground and not caving and waiting for a better deal which ultimately ended up being Cespedes.
Not arguing the Reds wanted more...  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:57 pm : link
Was pointing out that multiple sources were saying at the time Sandy was also "exploring other options" at the time of the Bruce negotiations.

Again, I believe that to be Sandy's credit.
Barwis mini camp  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 4:57 pm : link
Not sure if the pics  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:59 pm : link
were posted here but Smith apparently has been working his ass off. He still looks "big" but he looks MUCH more muscular.
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PhiPsi125 : 2/14/2016 4:59 pm : link
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LOL. You wrote..."Getting lucky last season doesn't change that fact and doesn't mean that all the past criticisms wasn't warranted." AND YOU JUST CLARIFIED the luck you were referring to had to do with the deadline deals?? Wow.

Again. How the hell was Ces his last option? He was talking to multiple teams, knew would it would take to get Bruce if he wanted him and CHOSE Cespedes. That's a last resort? You honestly think he preferred Bruce? Man you're one weird dude sometimes.

Im not buying your your "clarification" anyway. You pissed and moaned down the stretch all August/September warning of us of the big bad Nats and felt the need to tell us daily they were a sleeping giant and we were playing "way over our heads". Im pretty sure you do think we went to the WS due to "luck".

As to your comment about Sandy of course there is some element of luck in all baseball seasons for all teams but you are acting like the Mets weren't the best team in the NL last year and they absolutely were. They made a mockery of teams once we got healthy and had our reinforcements in place.


Yeah, I said that they got lucky last season. You read into it exactly they way you WANTED to read it in your own demented way. And then go into a fit of Tourette's.

I couldn't give two shits if you believe my "clarification." That's your problem, not mine.

Lol, at my pissing and moaning in Aug/Sept. You really have a warped sense of reality. While you were sliding down that rainbow proclaiming that we already won the division on August 1st, I (among) others realized how moronic such a proclamation is on Aug 1 and simple took the approach of "it's not over until it's over." But God forbid your mental feebleness could take such an unrealistic point of view. And just incase that flew over your head...that was sarcasm.

Are you going to tell me that the Mets weren't playing over their heads in August? Please please please tell me you aren't at that level of stupid.

Oh, so now you agree that there is some level of luck with what the Mets did last season. Of course you will down play your "luck" view by using the ole "every team has some element of luck" bullshit. But you can take my one liner and read into it just the way you want to.

Man, you have had some head scratchers during your time here but you really love to play the role of the dribbling idiot. You are the one that has been repeatedly called out with your bullshit remarks and backtracking (and I mean actual posts from the past where you contradict yourself) but the fact that you just keep digging that hole is an amazing feat. You are a lost soul and I hope you find God.
I think it was Smith's instagram  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 4:59 pm : link
he looks pretty jacked.
Smith  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 5:00 pm : link
looks much bigger than when he signed. Not judging one way or another but he looks like a different person
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ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 5:01 pm : link
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LOL. You wrote..."Getting lucky last season doesn't change that fact and doesn't mean that all the past criticisms wasn't warranted." AND YOU JUST CLARIFIED the luck you were referring to had to do with the deadline deals?? Wow.

Again. How the hell was Ces his last option? He was talking to multiple teams, knew would it would take to get Bruce if he wanted him and CHOSE Cespedes. That's a last resort? You honestly think he preferred Bruce? Man you're one weird dude sometimes.

Im not buying your your "clarification" anyway. You pissed and moaned down the stretch all August/September warning of us of the big bad Nats and felt the need to tell us daily they were a sleeping giant and we were playing "way over our heads". Im pretty sure you do think we went to the WS due to "luck".

As to your comment about Sandy of course there is some element of luck in all baseball seasons for all teams but you are acting like the Mets weren't the best team in the NL last year and they absolutely were. They made a mockery of teams once we got healthy and had our reinforcements in place.



Yeah, I said that they got lucky last season. You read into it exactly they way you WANTED to read it in your own demented way. And then go into a fit of Tourette's.

I couldn't give two shits if you believe my "clarification." That's your problem, not mine.

Lol, at my pissing and moaning in Aug/Sept. You really have a warped sense of reality. While you were sliding down that rainbow proclaiming that we already won the division on August 1st, I (among) others realized how moronic such a proclamation is on Aug 1 and simple took the approach of "it's not over until it's over." But God forbid your mental feebleness could take such an unrealistic point of view. And just incase that flew over your head...that was sarcasm.

Are you going to tell me that the Mets weren't playing over their heads in August? Please please please tell me you aren't at that level of stupid.

Oh, so now you agree that there is some level of luck with what the Mets did last season. Of course you will down play your "luck" view by using the ole "every team has some element of luck" bullshit. But you can take my one liner and read into it just the way you want to.

Man, you have had some head scratchers during your time here but you really love to play the role of the dribbling idiot. You are the one that has been repeatedly called out with your bullshit remarks and backtracking (and I mean actual posts from the past where you contradict yourself) but the fact that you just keep digging that hole is an amazing feat. You are a lost soul and I hope you find God.


Amen brother. lol.
Hard  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 5:01 pm : link
to believe from November 21st (when Law saw him in person) until now he's suddenly "jacked" vs. sloppy the way Law saw him. Who knows? Lets just hope he comes into camp in shape.
Here's what I saw Dan  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 5:07 pm : link
He's apparently been with Barwis the last couple months with Rosario and others...

From where he was at the end of last year (aka a fat slob)  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 5:08 pm : link
I think he looks a lot better. Still needs to trim down a little more IMO but I think his upper body looks a lot more muscular.
RE: Here's what I saw Dan  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 5:10 pm : link
In comment 12814756 ZGiants98 said:
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He's apparently been with Barwis the last couple months with Rosario and others...



That picture (which again doesn't show much) was posted 2 weeks ago. So he somehow went from "sloppy" to the point Law harped on it (11/21 was the allstar game) until late January? Possible I guess but I find it hard to believe he's now "jacked". Hopefully he takes this seriously, he's done the Barwis camp previously and still ballooned up.
RE: From where he was at the end of last year (aka a fat slob)  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 5:12 pm : link
In comment 12814757 ZGiants98 said:
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I think he looks a lot better. Still needs to trim down a little more IMO but I think his upper body looks a lot more muscular.


Again, Law saw him in November, he saiod he was the best hitter he saw in the AFL (AND that he was sloppy and out of shape) so he didn't end the season and suddenly get in shape.

"Law added that he believes Smith is a safe bet to be a .300 hitter with 20-homer upside with sparkling defense at first base. However, Law says his upside may only be reached if Smith "keeps his uniform buttons from bursting," as Law points out Smith could be skipping basic conditioning, resulting in sloppy defense in the Arizona Fall League. Smith was the 11th overall pick by the Mets in 2013. He is still just 20 years old."
Oh no doubt.  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 5:14 pm : link
The guy has had issues not ballooning up in season. Im just saying in these recent barwis shots he looks stronger. I guess its a matter of opinion but to me he does.

Sidenote. Is it bad I can't name everyone in that pic. I got TDA, Flores, Duda, Smith, Rosario, TDA's brother? Like who is the ginger in the bottom right? lol
Bottom  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 5:15 pm : link
right is Dash Winningham
RE: RE: From where he was at the end of last year (aka a fat slob)  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 5:17 pm : link
In comment 12814762 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12814757 ZGiants98 said:


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I think he looks a lot better. Still needs to trim down a little more IMO but I think his upper body looks a lot more muscular.



Again, Law saw him in November, he saiod he was the best hitter he saw in the AFL (AND that he was sloppy and out of shape) so he didn't end the season and suddenly get in shape.

"Law added that he believes Smith is a safe bet to be a .300 hitter with 20-homer upside with sparkling defense at first base. However, Law says his upside may only be reached if Smith "keeps his uniform buttons from bursting," as Law points out Smith could be skipping basic conditioning, resulting in sloppy defense in the Arizona Fall League. Smith was the 11th overall pick by the Mets in 2013. He is still just 20 years old."


Well obviously he wasn't training with Barwis in the AFL in early Novemeber. Supposedly he went down to see Barwis AFTER the AFL season when Law saw him... and yes... I believe in almost 3 months he could have gotten himself in much better shape since then if he was doing what those pictures imply day in and day out. Thats all. You don't think he looks more muscular in those pics? Fine by me. I did.
RE: Bottom  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 5:18 pm : link
In comment 12814767 DanMetroMan said:
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right is Dash Winningham


You're right. I should have know that. Who are the two on either side of him?
I  
DanMetroMan : 2/14/2016 5:26 pm : link
believe to the left of him is Rainy Lara (could be wrong, I've never seen him pitch)
Speaking of Winningham  
ZGiants98 : 2/14/2016 5:28 pm : link
He credits Barwis for getting him down to 215 and says he feels much more agile and quicker. I think he played at 230+ last year.

Really so happy to have Barwis, Long, and Warthen to be a part of this franchise. For the first time in forever we are seeing real tangible results with players to the credit of all three of them.
Winningham more "agile"  
Shecky : 2/14/2016 8:29 pm : link
First few times I seen him play, he may have been the most unathletic guy I have ever seen run bases and "slide". For such a devoted young kid to get into this kind of shape, I am VERY curious to see him this year!

Problem with Dom Smith is five people could see him in the same day in five different situations. And have completely different impressions of him. The reality is the "fat slob" was labeled on him and others mimic. He is a big kid now. Personally never understood his work ethic being questioned. Not looking to rehash old arguments here though.
RE: Might be more to  
NJGiantFan84 : 2/15/2016 12:57 am : link
In comment 12814267 ZGiants98 said:
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this Mejia scandal. Apparently Baldenone can stay in your system for up to 18 months. WTF? Link - ( New Window )


I am not sure how it works for steroids, but for recreational drugs they test levels at laboratories. So someone on probation for testing positive for Weed will have weed in their system for around thirty days. They will always teat positive, but they can tell by the levels of the drug in your system how recently you used. If the levels go up, you used something. If they go down, you did not. I imagine its similar for steroids.

RE: RE: Might be more to  
ZGiants98 : 2/15/2016 11:40 am : link
In comment 12815155 NJGiantFan84 said:
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In comment 12814267 ZGiants98 said:


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this Mejia scandal. Apparently Baldenone can stay in your system for up to 18 months. WTF? Link - ( New Window )



I am not sure how it works for steroids, but for recreational drugs they test levels at laboratories. So someone on probation for testing positive for Weed will have weed in their system for around thirty days. They will always teat positive, but they can tell by the levels of the drug in your system how recently you used. If the levels go up, you used something. If they go down, you did not. I imagine its similar for steroids.


Eh there's a contingent on MMO saying the opposite. One guy said Baldenone can come up clean in one urine test and then months later show up with high amounts without taking anything else. Who knows.
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