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NFT: Got sold a lemon

JD in NC : 2/12/2016 7:11 pm
I recently became in need of a cheap car after my roommate wrecked my previous vehicle. Bought a 1999 Nissan Maxima SE yesterday, and after I got it home, it hasn't started since. I was assured there were no mechanical issues with the vehicle and it had passed inspection in August. I informed the seller within 8 hours of the purchase and was told she would not accept a return of the vehicle, that she ha never had this issue, and takes no responsibility.

Am I taking it up the ass on this one, or do I have any course of action I can pursue legally? I would really appreciate any advice I can get, I do not make a lot of money and I spent my entire savings on this vehicle. Thanks in advance.
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RE: Any written agreement to the sale?  
JD in NC : 2/14/2016 12:12 am : link
In comment 12814239 glowrider said:
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Fraud is always illegal and would void the agreement.


We never drew up a contract, but we filled out a form at the DMV to transfer the title into my name, which I assume would constitute a bill of sale, but I would have to ask the DMV for a copy to see what it really says and what the actual language is.
You should certainly collect what info you can reasonably collect  
glowrider : 2/14/2016 12:25 am : link
Hopefully you can diagnose the issue tomorrow and it's no big deal.

Document and keep receipts for everything in case you want/need to go down a different road.
To prove  
NJGiantFan84 : 2/14/2016 1:24 am : link
Fraud you would have to prove she knew the problem existed or that she should have known. Its a difficult task to prove fraud in a situation like this, without solid records to back up the claim. But definitely worth documenting everything from the emails to a descriptikn of any and all conversations you recall.

Please keep us updated. We always get the "Only on BBI" comments whenever there is a post in poor taste or expressing a silly opinion. But many great things have happened on BBI. I am hoping this turns into one of the good stories.
Yes, would love to know the ultimate outcome on this.  
montanagiant : 2/14/2016 3:54 am : link
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RE: This is awesome  
EJV79 : 2/14/2016 5:39 am : link
In comment 12814181 timintey said:
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Giants fans in the Charlotte area are a special breed (Fort Mill here)


I love seeing giants fans around here (and there are alot of them) and i don't know about you but the panthers shit got so nauseating i couldn't wait for them to lose the SB.
RE: RE: i'm not sure what time i'll be there tomorrow  
EJV79 : 2/14/2016 5:50 am : link
In comment 12814216 JD in NC said:
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In comment 12814169 EJV79 said:


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but either way, here's my # (631)891-9345 shoot me a text tomorrow or monday and we'll see if we can set up a time to look at the car.



Sounds like a plan. I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate the help. I didn't think I was going to get out of this without having to take the car to a mechanic I don't know and possibly get raked over the coals for the repairs, and really have no choice but to pay it off somehow.

What are the odds of this situation? Seriously?


Yea small world indeed. The odds are what's crazy, i really don't go on this site that much but whenever i do and i see a car thread i'll read it and try to give advice since i'm in the field, so it's pretty crazy that i logged on yesterday afternoon and saw this thread. When you said you work at guitar center i was like son of a bitch, i bet that's the dude i spoke to a few times about the giants. I think the last time i was in there was probably around the start of the season right before we played the cowboys and maybe a week or two later after we lost to the falcons. I started playing drums in august of 2014 so i go to that guitar center sometimes to pick up sticks and some other shit.
This thread made me tear up!  
NYGmen58 : 2/14/2016 10:19 am : link
Way to go BBI!
RE: RE: RE: i'm not sure what time i'll be there tomorrow  
section125 : 2/14/2016 10:41 am : link
In comment 12814308 EJV79 said:
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In comment 12814216 JD in NC said:


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In comment 12814169 EJV79 said:


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but either way, here's my # (631)891-9345 shoot me a text tomorrow or monday and we'll see if we can set up a time to look at the car.



Sounds like a plan. I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate the help. I didn't think I was going to get out of this without having to take the car to a mechanic I don't know and possibly get raked over the coals for the repairs, and really have no choice but to pay it off somehow.

What are the odds of this situation? Seriously?



Yea small world indeed. The odds are what's crazy, i really don't go on this site that much but whenever i do and i see a car thread i'll read it and try to give advice since i'm in the field, so it's pretty crazy that i logged on yesterday afternoon and saw this thread. When you said you work at guitar center i was like son of a bitch, i bet that's the dude i spoke to a few times about the giants. I think the last time i was in there was probably around the start of the season right before we played the cowboys and maybe a week or two later after we lost to the falcons. I started playing drums in august of 2014 so i go to that guitar center sometimes to pick up sticks and some other shit.


Now that would be cool if you really had met before. Good on you EJV for helping.
If this car ends up repaired, this would be an all time great  
jcn56 : 2/14/2016 12:20 pm : link
Right up there with the bolognas of Brooklyn.
RE: To prove  
glowrider : 2/14/2016 12:29 pm : link
In comment 12814278 NJGiantFan84 said:
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Fraud you would have to prove she knew the problem existed or that she should have known. Its a difficult task to prove fraud in a situation like this, without solid records to back up the claim. But definitely worth documenting everything from the emails to a descriptikn of any and all conversations you recall.

Please keep us updated. We always get the "Only on BBI" comments whenever there is a post in poor taste or expressing a silly opinion. But many great things have happened on BBI. I am hoping this turns into one of the good stories.


Difficult but not impossible. The seller saying the car was checked out and maintained by a location that declined to confirm such worth raises the hairs on my neck, but that argument is tenuous. However, I'd bet that if there is one instance of inappropriate behavior, there's more. I hope this isn't the case, but if it is, he does have some ground to stand on.
Ok, i'm going to go check the car out on tuesday  
EJV79 : 2/14/2016 4:28 pm : link
We're supposed to have some crappy weather here in the charlotte area tomorrow so tuesday works better. On a side note, i was just having lunch with the fiance at the outback down the road from the guitar center JD works at, sitting at the bar with a giants sweatshirt on and a dude with a binghamton mets sweatshirt walks in and tells me he likes my shirt. Turns out he's from binghamton, NY and just moved down to charlotte with his GF, they were living in roanokae VA so we made small talk about the area and we talked about the recent moves (beatty, beason and schwartz).
This thread is great  
Ned In Atlanta : 2/14/2016 11:48 pm : link
kudos EV, way to help out a fellow Giants fan. You guys will have to keep us posted on how things go. This is an example of the strength of weak ties.
For anybody who may interested  
EJV79 : 2/15/2016 7:52 pm : link
JD texted me today and told me a friend of his was able to look at the car today and he found the starter was the culprit, they swapped in a new starter and the car starts fine now.
RE: For anybody who may interested  
Matt M. : 2/15/2016 7:54 pm : link
In comment 12815953 EJV79 said:
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JD texted me today and told me a friend of his was able to look at the car today and he found the starter was the culprit, they swapped in a new starter and the car starts fine now.
Great stuff on this thread.
Just out of curiosity, how much is a starter? Labor? Is it something the previous owner should have known about, or is it possible it just went?
It's a great story  
AP in Halfmoon : 2/15/2016 7:56 pm : link
Kudos to all involved.

One question though, if the car cranked how was it the starter?
RE: It's a great story  
ctc in ftmyers : 2/15/2016 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12815961 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Kudos to all involved.

One question though, if the car cranked how was it the starter?


Ha
Thanks again guys!  
JD in NC : 2/15/2016 10:12 pm : link
So far so good with the new starter. I was asking the same question, but I guess even though it wasn't completely out of commission yet it wasn't pushing quite hard enough to get the engine to turn?

It could have been a lot worse, and I'm thankful it's not. We're not exactly having a Long Island caliber winter down here, but NC has been getting some actual winter weather the last few weeks or so.
Now if I can get the turn signals to work as well  
JD in NC : 2/15/2016 10:14 pm : link
I'll be 100% ready to go!
So glad this worked out  
glowrider : 2/15/2016 10:22 pm : link
Nice work!
EJV79  
JD in NC : 2/15/2016 10:23 pm : link
Hit me up next time you're coming down to the store, I'll get you set you with whatever you need brother!
RE: It's a great story  
jcn56 : 2/15/2016 10:26 pm : link
In comment 12815961 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Kudos to all involved.

One question though, if the car cranked how was it the starter?


Look up, 2/12 | 8:28 - it's not unusual at all for the starter to crank but not crank well enough to kick the engine over.
RE: RE: For anybody who may interested  
EJV79 : 2/16/2016 8:36 am : link
In comment 12815957 Matt M. said:
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In comment 12815953 EJV79 said:


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JD texted me today and told me a friend of his was able to look at the car today and he found the starter was the culprit, they swapped in a new starter and the car starts fine now.

Great stuff on this thread.
Just out of curiosity, how much is a starter? Labor? Is it something the previous owner should have known about, or is it possible it just went?


Depending on the make and model a starter could be anywhere from $100 to $300 or more. I had to replace a starter on a twin turbo v-12 benz and i think it was over $1000 just for the part. Labor also depends on make and model, some are a quick 1/2 hour job, others could be a nightmare.
RE: Now if I can get the turn signals to work as well  
EJV79 : 2/16/2016 8:37 am : link
In comment 12816053 JD in NC said:
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I'll be 100% ready to go!


Start with the basics, check all the bulbs first.
RE: EJV79  
EJV79 : 2/16/2016 8:38 am : link
In comment 12816059 JD in NC said:
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Hit me up next time you're coming down to the store, I'll get you set you with whatever you need brother!


Sounds good man, i'll be down there soon, need to pick up some felt washers for my cymbal stands and i wanna check out some china and ride cymbals.
Wow great thread  
Metnut : 2/16/2016 9:15 am : link
Go BBI!
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