I think it's reasonable to assume that if Prince signs elsewhere the Giants are going to sign an FA CB to replace him. So.. it's not like Trevin Wade is going to be starting on the opposite side of DRC if Prince re-locates.
some do not want to pay Prince, but thought it was OK to pay Schwartz and Beason very well . Both had worse injury histories than Prince did. Prince is a young improving DB that we will have big trouble replacing. Just like we had big trouble replacing Linval Joseph. Who when paired with Hankins had our run game in the top ten. Our defense is at the bottom of the league, we have money to spend. Seems we are harder on our home grown players here, than other teams discards.
Well, Eric didn't say he was ready to be All-Pro, Â
just that he might do as 3rd or 4th corner. But 3rd corner is still an important player.
"In 2015, Jayron Hosley had his most productive campaign since his rookie season. He played in 14 games, starting six times when injuries sidelined the starting outside cornerbacks. However, Hosley’s playing time significantly decreased towards the end of the year, with the Giants making him a healthy inactive scratch twice in December."
wrong with offering $7 mil a year with incentives up to 10 if he plays a full season..That's fair for both sides imo...If not, fluck him, we'll find someone else whose healthy to reasonably healthy
Up to 7, incentive based - sure thing. My main concern with Prince is that he's not going to be able to stay healthy, and that we'll be looking for a replacement. If the Giants can find a way to mitigate the risk of him not holding up and minimize the dead cap space of cutting him, I'll all for it.
Somehow, I think the market will favor PA, though, and that means it's time to move on.
I'd rather get two guys who aren't as good but who have a better record for durability than keep Prince for what he might end up costing (upwards of $10M/yr).
more than any asset, even as a reserve CB. He is basically tied as the 53th most valuable player on the team with unfortunately too many others, hence his healthy scratches.
The question of this thread is Prince who actually, unlike Hosley, is an important decision for this offseason. But must be put into perspective as to how much value he truly does provide. If he can be locked up for something between $6-7M per with not a ridiculous guarantee but enough of active-playing incentives then I would say fine. If it takes more then we are wasting money.
some do not want to pay Prince, but thought it was OK to pay Schwartz and Beason very well . Both had worse injury histories than Prince did. Prince is a young improving DB that we will have big trouble replacing. Just like we had big trouble replacing Linval Joseph. Who when paired with Hankins had our run game in the top ten. Our defense is at the bottom of the league, we have money to spend. Seems we are harder on our home grown players here, than other teams discards.
Comparing Prince's contribution to the team to Linval Joseph's is fooking hilarious. Who writes your material? Joseph was an anchor and what I call bus driver, not passenger, during a string of great D for a championship run. Prince's presence has coincided with the Giants being one of the worst Ds in league history - particularly pass D.
And Reese should pay Prince 10 per when he wouldn't give Linval 6.5?
All of a sudden, revisionist history has him at Suh Jr.
He was a good player who had an average year in the first year of his contract in Minny, nobody was crying then. He did a bit better this season after the coaches worked with him on his stance and the talent around him picked up.
Prince is a better player, but unfortunately unable to stay healthy.
RE: What Linval Joseph were you people watching? Â
Also, if we gave him 10 a yr and didnt resign JPP i would vomit
Is this some kind of joke? Hosley is basically a human bulls-eye when on the field and should never see training camp again.
"In 2015, Jayron Hosley had his most productive campaign since his rookie season. He played in 14 games, starting six times when injuries sidelined the starting outside cornerbacks. However, Hosley’s playing time significantly decreased towards the end of the year, with the Giants making him a healthy inactive scratch twice in December."
Up to 7, incentive based - sure thing. My main concern with Prince is that he's not going to be able to stay healthy, and that we'll be looking for a replacement. If the Giants can find a way to mitigate the risk of him not holding up and minimize the dead cap space of cutting him, I'll all for it.
Somehow, I think the market will favor PA, though, and that means it's time to move on.
I'd rather get two guys who aren't as good but who have a better record for durability than keep Prince for what he might end up costing (upwards of $10M/yr).
The question of this thread is Prince who actually, unlike Hosley, is an important decision for this offseason. But must be put into perspective as to how much value he truly does provide. If he can be locked up for something between $6-7M per with not a ridiculous guarantee but enough of active-playing incentives then I would say fine. If it takes more then we are wasting money.
Sadly I believe it will be the latter.
Comparing Prince's contribution to the team to Linval Joseph's is fooking hilarious. Who writes your material? Joseph was an anchor and what I call bus driver, not passenger, during a string of great D for a championship run. Prince's presence has coincided with the Giants being one of the worst Ds in league history - particularly pass D.
And Reese should pay Prince 10 per when he wouldn't give Linval 6.5?
Something is mnissing in your analysis, IMO.
He was a good player who had an average year in the first year of his contract in Minny, nobody was crying then. He did a bit better this season after the coaches worked with him on his stance and the talent around him picked up.
Prince is a better player, but unfortunately unable to stay healthy.